August 2006 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

new icons + anyone want to help? + submenu icons
by Jon Phillips 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

Heya dudes and dudettes, It has been bothering me that there aren't icons for some menu items. I went ahead and took a stab at finishing the rest of the icons in the main menus. Please critique my new ones with your own changes...I just wanted to get the ball rolling... I added: Document Metadata, Input Devices, Select All in All Layers, Invert Selection, Deselect, Messages, Scripts, Icon Preview, Layers..., the rest of the text icons (not the best ones), About Memory... I hope you all like...Also, to all you artists and developers, adding icons is easy! 1.) open up icons.svg from the main inkscape trunk in PATH_TO_INKSCAPE/share/icons/icons.svg 2.) group your icon together and give it a good name in the object properties dialog 3.) add or edit the proper name in the PATH_TO_INKSCAPE/src/verbs.cpp 4.) make && su -c 'make install' Check and repeat 1-4 until you are happy! Oh, the Clip, Mask and Pattern subdirectory menu items still need icons. Does anyone want to take a stab at these? Also, Kees, didn't you hack in a fix so that we can have icons for the submenus. What happened to that? Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org) San Francisco Art Institute (www.sfai.edu)

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[Fwd: NEW: pig latin translation]
by Jon Phillips 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

SF.net screwed up this week and didn't deliver this announcement... Jon -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> > To: Inkscape Development Mailing List > <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: NEW: pig latin translation > Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:53:20 -0700 > > Hi, I committed a patch for the pig latin dialect of English by Jon > South...you can use it like so from the command line: > > LANG=en_US@...1443... inkscape > > It is not really a supported locale, but this is the only way to > shoehorn it into the system...I'm going to blog about getting your own > funky language into linux ;) > > Jon > -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org) San Francisco Art Institute (www.sfai.edu)

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UPDATE on trunk
by Jon Phillips 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

We had to peel back the gboolean -> bool changeover so y'all might have to do a 'make clean' before rebuilding Inkscape (many files were touched). Sorry for the sucky recompile, but we had to go through this to see the light in trying to do mass conversions...its all about incrementally adding this type of change... Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org) San Francisco Art Institute (www.sfai.edu)

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testing
by Jon Phillips 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

Testing...does this list work anymore??? Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org) San Francisco Art Institute (www.sfai.edu)

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Undefined sp_module_new in 0.36
by Void 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

A really basic C coding question! I'm attempting to compile v0.36 with the '--with-gnome-print' option, and after fixing one small bug: modules/gnome.c needed #include "helper/canvas-bpath.h" I then got to the final link step and there's just one undefined reference: src/print.c:118: undefined reference to `sp_module_new' 'sp_module_new' is defined in module.c: static SPModule * sp_module_new (GType type, SPRepr *repr); My C is very rusty... how do I make that visible in print.c? And why isn't it? ...is it because I'm using gcc 3.4? Regards, Barry Kauler ________________________________________________ Dodo - an Official Sponsor of the 2006 FORMULA 1 (tm) Foster's Australian Grand Prix

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] new icons + anyone want to help? + submenu icons
by Tobias Jakobs 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

> > > If Inkscape would use the Tango ArtLibreSet[1] and not the icons.svg we could > > change the Incscape, Scribus and Gimp icons just by changing one iconset. > But this will work just in Linux, no? I think it's time to change OS ;) > I don't know if this will work with Windows, but I think it's a good time to change the OS. ;) Regards, Tobias _____________________________________________________________________ Der WEB.DE SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! http://smartsurfer.web.de/?mc=100071&distributionid=000000000066

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Bug during rotation
by Bob Jamison 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

Although I know this is the wrong place to mention a bug, I think that some people were talking about this already on the list or the jabber group, so it probably does not deserve a new bug. On win32/svn, when you start a new document, place a <rect> on it, and attempt to rotate it, you get the following. Both the mention of "allocation" in the source, and "boolean" make me think of things that people have been doing recently, so likely this will be familiar to them. =============================================== #0 SPCanvas::getViewbox (this=0x0) at display/sp-canvas.cpp:2126 #1 0x0044b9d0 in SPDesktop::get_display_area (this=0xad8bd8) at desktop.cpp:663 #2 0x0044e4a5 in SPDesktop::scroll_to_point (this=0xad8bd8, p=0x22f010, autoscrollspeed=0) at desktop.cpp:897 #3 0x007cd385 in sp_knot_handler (item=0xe968240, event=0xdc31418, knot=0xda0f9f0) at knot.cpp:381 #4 0x004ddd10 in sp_marshal_BOOLEAN__POINTER (closure=0xed64778, return_value=0x22f280, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x22f2f0, invocation_hint=0x22f1d8, marshal_data=0x0) at helper/sp-marshal.cpp:352 #5 0x0b163935 in libiconv_version () from C:\inkscape\libgobject-2.0-0.dll #6 0x0ed64778 in ?? ()

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Export dialog
by Bob Jamison 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

Hi, everyone! I suppose that this list has a very short memory, since we were talking about this about a month ago. :-) Some work has already been done toward this.. Here is a first cut: http://inkscape.org/win32/export/export-dump.png Explaining the look, first please note that this is a first attempt. The dialog is basically a SaveAs dialog, with an extra panel added. The position of the panel is a Gtk thing, not something I devised. That's just where it goes. The Gtk::Frame on the left is for the scope of the source document to export. It is output format-agnostic, and would apply to all types. Notice the blank area on the right. That is where the Preview box goes, the same as on the Open dialog. We would probably use this to display a preview of the scope of the source document. The right side currently has information common to most types of exports we would provide. It is conceivable that some of the controls on the right side could change as the result of a callback from the type-selecting Gtk::Combobox. However, of course we would want to avoid bloat. Now, I'm not really concerned with the appearance of this thing, and I'm not a GUI guru. What we need is this set of parameters to give us at least the amount of information that we have now. But the basic look of a FileChooser remains the same, and is not something we would want to waste our time coding from scratch. We are not in the toolkit business, but SVG editing. In addition, PNG exporting has been decoupled from file.cpp, so that it can be called from elsewhere than the existing dialog. There are 3 other things that we have been discussing, to support this functionality: 1) A clone-with-crop function, which will duplicate all or part of a Document according to the user's needs (left side of dialog) 2) Getting the output-specific parameters to the Output classes in Ted's extension architecture (right side) 3) (wish list) Decoupling the interpretation of the Document tree and the generation of the various output formats. This way the Document traversal only needs to be written and debugged once, and the various drawing contexts can be plugged into it. If you look in /internal, you will see a lot of redundant tree-walking code. With this decoupling, the gurus of what is in an SPDocument can determine how the tree is interpreted, and the people writing the outputs can concentrate on simpler drawing primitives. Also, the drawing commands of the contexts need only concern themselves with absolute coordinates, alleviating the need for output-writers to constantly convert coordinate spaces. Remember, form must follow function. bob

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23 Aug '06

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Rejuvenate Sodipodi as 'Inkscape Lite'
by Void 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Bryce, Thanks very much for taking the time to give such a detailed reply. To explain a little bit more about the situation. The official 'standard' Puppy Linux liveCD is intended to run on older PCs and to load totally into RAM. Hence my interest in a smaller Inkscape. However, Puppy is highly customisable, and various 'chubby' versions of Puppy get released. It is very easy to remaster the CD -- just download any extra packages, run the remaster-cd script, and a new squashfs file is created and burnt to CD -- and it will still all load into RAM if you have say 256M or more, or have a swap partition. So, we will still offer the latest Inkscape. But, I would like the "lite" version in the 'standard' liveCD. I downloaded 0.36 and it compiled ok. Note, I used '--without-gnome-print' -- Puppy does have libgnomeprint, libgnomecanvas, and libgnomeprintui, as required for Abiword and Gnumeric, but Inkscape seems to need more than that. Okay, Inkscape 0.36 runs, but when I choose File -> Print... from the menu, up pops a msg: "Inkscape encountered an internal error and will close now." On the commandline there is this error msg: "(inkscape:31765): CRITICAL **: sp_module_db_register: assertion 'module->id != NULL' failed" Note, in Sodipodi it does work ok. It was also compiled with '--without-gnome-print'. I'm prepared to have a go at fixing this, but I was wondering if that error message means anything to you, and if you can give me a clue where to look. I'm proposing to call this (assuming I fix the printing!) "InkscapeLite" and the executable "inkscapelite" and arrange so there is no clash if the full Inkscape package is installed later by a Puppy user. regards, Barry Kauler > > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:52:08AM +1000, Void wrote: > > You guys are going to laugh at this suggestion > > ...but I thought that I would ask anyway. > > > > Up until recently we had Sodipodi in Puppy, but > > many people complained they did not like the user > > interface (although I personally find it okay). > > So, I went over to Inkscape, but that uses Gtkmm > > and the binary package is about FIVE TIMES > > BIGGER than Sodipodi. > > Note that Gtkmm itself is not the cause of this size increase. There > are a number of libraries that have been added to Inkscape to > enable so many of the features it's gained over the years. Gtkmm is > just one of these additions. > > The real cause is probably the fact that we shifted from C to C++. > Compiled C++ code is well known to require more disk space and memory. > Inkscape doubled in size overnight when we shifted from C-based > compilation to C++-based compilation. Gtkmm and other libs are in C++ > so they're in the same situation. > > > What I would really like is to go back to > > Sodipodi. I will then be able to dump the Gtkmm > > library (about 4M uncompressed) and Inkscape > > (about 6M uncompressed). Sodipodi is only about > > 2M. To satisfy the critics and to greatly > > rejuvinate the Sodipodi project, redesigning the > > menu to a "conventional" one would be truly > > fantastic. > > > > Is this suggestion totally outrageous? Any > > Yes, it does seem illogical... If your goal is simply to have a lighter > weight drawing tool, then why not just use an older version of Inkscape? > Version 0.35 is basically the same as Sodipodi 0.34, except with a lot > of code cleanup and bug fixes. Inkscape 0.36 would probably be a better > choice - it's still from before we fully moved to C++ (I think it's the > only version of Sodipodi or Inkscape that compiles perfectly using > either a C or C++ compiler), and the rpm is actually smaller than the > sodipodi 0.34 rpm (867 kb for Inkscape vs. 1.15M for Sodipodi). Plus, > Inkscape 0.36 is when we switched from the CSDI interface to the current > SDI one, so since your users are asking for the SDI type interface, it > would be logical to start from this, instead of having to reinvent all > that work yourself. Plus, you'd be more likely to get some support from > Inkscape developers if you run into bugs or wish to backport things, > than if you were developing from something derived directly from > Sodipodi. > > Look at http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/PastMilestones to see > what things were done in the early days of Inkscape. You should > also review the release notes for these early versions to see what > features you'd gain or lose for selecting different versions. > > E.g. http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/ReleaseNotes035 > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/ReleaseNotes036 > > Bryce > > > > > > ________________________________________________ Dodo - an Official Sponsor of the 2006 FORMULA 1 (tm) Foster's Australian Grand Prix

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