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language abreviation for gettext and tutorials, ...
by Adib Taraben 24 Sep '05

24 Sep '05

The japanese has in the po directory <ja> but in the tutorials <jp> Is there an explanation ? I would like to filter all files depending on one language. All <de> or <fr> or <ja> files. Thx, Adib.

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Re: Zeichensatzproblem auf inkscape.org
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 23 Sep '05

23 Sep '05

Hallo, Thomas! Nein, die Seite ist korrekt kodiert. Normalerweise sollte der Browser automatisch die Kodierung auf UTF-8 einstellen, dann stimmt die Darstellung. Im Quelltext werden die Umlaute natürlich nur mit einem UTF-8 fähigen Editor korrekt angezeigt. Ich bitte zu beachten, dass UTF-8 nichts mit HTML-Entities zu tun hat. (wie & auml; o.ä.) Welchen Browser verwendest du in dem die Seite falsch dargestellt wird? Caliga Thomas Meinike schrieb: > Hallo, > > bitte mal das Zeichensatzproblem auf inkscape.org (deutsche Version) > beseitigen: Die Dokumente sind angeblich UTF-8-kodiert, aber im Inhalt > werden unkodierte Umlaute verwendet. Somit wird der Text fast unlesbar. > > MfG, > Thomas Meinike

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Xara / SVG translator project
by Bryce Harrington 23 Sep '05

23 Sep '05

Got some good news... Eric Wilhelm, developer of the Uber-Converter and member of the Inkscape community, is being sponsored by Xara to develop a graphics converter to allow Xara and Inkscape users to more easily share documents. Xara's full press release is here: http://www.xara.com/press/pressrelease.asp This tool will benefit both Xara and Inkscape. Xara will gain support for an important graphics file format quickly becoming a standard in the Open Source community. Inkscape will gain a new file converter that will allow Inkscape users to more seamlessly convert to and from Xara. In addition, due to Uber-converter's "hub" architecture, this may enable support for several further file formats. For some background... this effort came about after Charles Moir of Xara and I had some discussions about how Xara could become more involved in the Open Source community and the Inkscape community in particular. Since Xara does not yet support SVG, a xar2svg/svg2xar effort was clearly a logical first step. With Xara providing this code under the GPL, it makes a valuable contribution to the community, too! Anyway, it's great to welcome Xara to the Inkscape community; I hope we'll be able to work together with them even more closely in the future. Bryce

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Effect submission
by unknown＠example.com 23 Sep '05

23 Sep '05

I received a mail form one Carsten Goetze the other day asking how to submit an effect for inclusion in the inkscape distribution. Every time I tried to reply my mail was rejected by the remote server. Carsten, if you read these lists, I'm sorry that I wasn't able to get back to you immediately. Please post your effect to the patch tracker <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=93438&atid=604308> and send a mail the the mailing lists to encourage everyone to test your work. Aaron Spike

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menus.xml
by unknown＠example.com 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

So... we're releasing 0.43 with menus.xml, or has it been removed? -mental

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Re: OS X build for inkscape
by Bryce Harrington 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:40:15PM +0100, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: > OS X build* for inkscape > > Bryce, > > someone once built inkscape for OS X, not so long ago. > If that person can provide build instructions, I may be able to make > regular builds, especially whilst inkscape is improving so fast. Great, thanks! Kees, can you point Jonathan towards the build instructions for OSX? Bryce

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Inkscape stats 9/15/05
by Bryce Harrington 21 Sep '05

21 Sep '05

We're now in feature freeze, and already past half-way towards achieving hard freeze. We've named our release wardens and I'm already hearing some discussions regarding sorting through packaging issues. We've got some work to do to get through the must-fix bugs, but given that we've had a short time since 0.42.2, I think even this will go smoothly. The number to check out this time is the number of feature requests. We dropped the total from 471 a couple months ago to under 450 now, or from a ratio of 62% to under 50%. Quite a jump! Where the project needs help right now is in closing bugs. We have our bug tracker quite well under control, but there are 258 open bugs, and it would be wonderful if we could cut that down significantly before the 0.43 release. If you can code, please check out if you can help close one or two, and help us really drive this number down. :-) Bryce Statistics Jun 1 Jul 1 Aug 1 Sep 1 Sep 15 ========== ====== ====== ====== ====== ====== Max Week's Rank on SourceForge: 38 35 3 23 43 Total SF Page Views 1,935,964 3,797,037 4,452,437 4,139,401 4,467,690 Total SF Downloads 254,647 283,789 378,712 448,994 474,659 Total Freshmeat URL Hits 19,149 19,809 21,261 22,422 22,766 Total Freshmeat Subscriptions 183 189 208 220 224 Lines of Code in src/: 374,180 376,319 389,945 404,800 544,033 Code lines 260,236 261,600 270,423 279,621 373,738 Comment line 67,136 67,724 70,478 73,904 108,863 Blank 53,443 53,651 55,698 57,937 73,408 Lines of Docs in doc/: 27,790 27,792 28,090 28,121 27,176 Lines of content in website: 42,490 42,700 44,483 44,732 45,246 Size of the Inkscape wiki: 26,729 28,525 34,890 34,847 34,847 Bugs open/total: 215/1223 196/1312 215/1445 250/1555 258/1591 Features open/total: 453/ 728 471/ 767 440/816 466/ 874 448/ 900 Patches open/total: 11/ 230 10/ 268 8/325 6/ 332 9/ 336 CVS Commits (as per inkscape-cvs) 12,040 12,372 12,915 13,423 13,936 Inkscape-devel membership: 179 188 200 217 217 Inkscape-announce membership: 202 217 236 274 278 Inkscape-user membership: 248 258 276 295 304 Inkscape-tester membership: 23 Num Translations: 33 33 33 33 33 Ave Translation Ratio: 47.8 48.6 54.6 54.9 50.2

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win98 crash on startup with 2.8 libs
by bulia byak 21 Sep '05

21 Sep '05

I spent half the night debugging this crash today - gdb no longer works, so I had to do this by scattering printfs in the code. I localized it to this: gtk_option_menu_set_menu(GTK_OPTION_MENU(us->menu), m); in spus_rebuild_menu() in unit-menu.cpp. It's called when the first units menu for the selector toolbar is created. Both pointers are valid. I know gtk_option_menu is deprecated, but it must not crash! We have lots of old code with gtk_option_menu and absolutely no resources to rewrite them all. If I comment that line out, it goes farther, but eventually still crashes somewhere. I have no energy left to figure out where. Now, there's also an error box with the same "pango error" as the one I fixed for 0.42.2. As I understand it, it's caused by the crash handler's attempt to write prefs on exit. The prefs file is read OK but writing it out is broken (again). However, this only happens after the gtk_option_menu crash. My conclusion: We have to roll back to 2.6. The gtk 2.8 seems to be really really broken on win98. I don't see how we can work around this. Opinions? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Translating Xlink attributes?
by Colin Marquardt 20 Sep '05

20 Sep '05

Hi, I think translating the Xlink attributes (shown in the link properties dialog of a linked object) is too specific. Anyone wanting to make sense of the attributes would have to know http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/CR-xlink-20000703/ and the link in the TRANSLATORS comment anyway. Don't you agree that these strings should show up in non-interpreted English? If so, these strings should not be marked as translatable. Here is an example: #. TRANSLATORS: for info, see http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/CR-SVG-20000802/linking.html#AElementXLinkArcRole… #. For situations where the nature/role alone isn't enough, this offers an additional URI defining the purpose of the link. #: ../src/dialogs/object-attributes.cpp:42 msgid "Arcrole:" Cheers, Colin -- <jeff> so tell me, what will xemacs do for me? <Ueberluser> I don't know. It's an editor. Do you need an editor? <jeff> I guess not.. i just use VI

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Re: Using Inkscape
by Gavin Band 20 Sep '05

20 Sep '05

(Bulia Byak wrote that he had changed the minimum zoom size in CVS, so I could see my file - but I lost the email) Thanks - I will check it out. gav.

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Press
by unknown＠example.com 20 Sep '05

20 Sep '05

All this talk about website redesign and reorganization makes me wonder. On many commercial websites I see a "For the Press" section. Should inkscape have one of those? Also, since the question has come up multiple times can we attach licensing information to each screenshot on the website. I noticed the gamemap example does this. Would someone who knows how place a PD designation next to both of my screenshots? Aaron Spike

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SVG in the press
by Taraben, Adib 20 Sep '05

20 Sep '05

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2394080884.html

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Usage Notes
by Michael Wheeler 19 Sep '05

19 Sep '05

Hi all, When I have opportunities, I like to try out Inkscape for some of my freelance work and take notes. My freelance work is mostly doing artwork for those t-shirts you see in kiosks at the mall. Think "Coolest Grandpa in the World". A lot of tracing and finishing of scanned drawings. Anyway, I realized that I had a lot of notes from over several months and I thought I'd finally gather them together and send them to the list. I love the MMB panning and zooming, especially now that I can MMB pan even while I am in the middle of drawing a path with the pen tool. Is there any reason that Shift+MMB+drag couldn't serve the same function as LMB+drag with the zoom tool (zooming in on the area you've just dragged a box around)? I think it would really complete the middle mouse button as a document navigation tool. Shift+MMB+drag currently just pans the document, the same as regular MMB dragging. Dialogs pop-up to the front whenever I hover for more than a second over a toolbar button or menu. They appear to pop up simultaneously with the tooltips. This is under Win2k, It works correctly in Ubuntu. Is there any way that the HSL color picker could be fixed so that changing the value of one component would not affect the values of the other components? For instance, setting S to 0 often snaps H to 0 also. Other, less drastic value changes occasionally occur too. It is frustrating to pick out the exact hue I want, only to have it change when I start tinkering with the saturation or lightness. Align nodes is nice, but it would be more useful if there was an option to align to the center or average of the selected nodes. I love the node editing tool, especially now that i can drag curve segments and double click to add nodes! I use Illustrator at work and at home for freelance jobs and I must say that the path editing UI is one area where I find Inkscape to be head and shoulders above AI. The only problem is the speed. Forgive me for mentioning it (since I know everyone is aware of the slow rendering), but more than any other drawback this is the one that can turn using Inkscape from a pleasure into a headache. I've brought this up before, and people mentioned profiling, but it is a little bit over my head. I don't know if it is still worth doing, but some instructions are available at http://wiki.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Profiling for those who would like to try (maybe this page should be linked to the TestingInkscape page?). Anyway, I hope these notes are helpful. -Mike

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Connector avoidance fix for ellipses and translated objects
by Michael Wybrow 18 Sep '05

18 Sep '05

Hello, I have posted a fix for the previously discussed problems with connector avoidance for circles, ellipses and arcs as well as translated objects. I am curently in the UK with a very bad internet connection and very limited computer access so I can't easily read mail or get on Jabber to tell where we are in the release. For this reason I have put the patch in the tracker: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1294687&group_id=… If the release hasn't already happened can someone please apply the patch before it does! Also, please check it compiles fine because while I fixed the problem on my laptop, I had to copy the changes by hand to get them anywhwere near the internet, and coulndn't connect to any of the machines at Monash where I would actually have been able to compile the change. I'll try to check replies to this message in the list in the next day or so. I'm back in Australia in a week so \i'll talk to you all then. Thanks, Michael

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Is pressure sensitivity supported in X11 running under OS X?
by Jonathan Chetwynd 18 Sep '05

18 Sep '05

Is pressure sensitivity supported in X11 running under OS X? if it is, what configuration instructions are there? if not, what is the issue, and why hasn't it been fixed in the past three or four years? regards Jonathan Chetwynd please take care when replying not to copy across lists. Howtos for linux X11 regarding pressure sensitivity: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/inputdev http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25151.html Wacom or other tablets use pressure sensitivity and applications such as GIMP and Inkscape use this facility, when available. Adobe Illustrator is a commercial application frequently used with wacom tablets and OS X. http://lists.apple.com/archives/X11-users OS X X11 mailing list archive

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Inkscape stats 9/15/05
by Ben Fowler 18 Sep '05

18 Sep '05

I would respectfully disagree with both of the substantive points in this thread(!): On 9/16/05, Nicu Buculei <nicu@...398...> wrote: > Bryce Harrington wrote: > > > > [ snip ] > > > Where the project needs help right now is in closing bugs. > > We have our bug tracker quite well under control, but there > > are 258 open bugs, and it would be wonderful if we could cut > > that down significantly before the 0.43 release. If you can > > code, please check out if you can help close one or two, ... I am sitting on three patches, waiting for a thaw so that I can commit without endangering other's activities. There was never much of a thaw after 0.42! Ideally, the tree should be open just after a release for new work including patches for minor bugs, also for developers' prized features, as there will be a period for stabilisation before the next release. Just before a release, the emphasis should be on testing, packaging and to a lesser extent on 'blocking bugs'. Cutting down the number of open bugs by commiting is highly likely to expose other bugs or problems with the code that require stabilisation and should be done (IMHO) early in the release cycle. I suspect that I am missing something ... Personally, I would suggest that some manageable number bugs (somewhere between 10 an 50 given the number of developers) are marked as must fix before 0.43 and patches for other bugs (the 'minor bugs' I mentioned above) are held over. Ideally this should be based on the importance to the end-user rather than priority or ease of fixing. (High priority and easy to fix bugs should most certainly be fast tracked, but again, at the beginning or in the middle of a release cycle). > Other projects keep from time to time some events called "bug > party", when people clean the bug/feature tracker, collaborating > over IRC and closing as much as possible as DUPLICATE, WON'T > FIX, INVALID, RESOLVED or prioritizing. It may have the benefit > of attracting new contributors and giving non-developers a way > to contribute. > > What do you think about the opportunity/usefulness of such a > bug party? > > At 258 bugs and 448 RFEs the number may be small enough and > the action not needed. I wholeheartedly agree with these data and your suggestions, until the last line, where there is the implication that 250 open bugs is a small number. Really, we should be aiming at zero bugs, and should have 10 or fewer open ones. I would urge every effort to getting non-coders interested in triaging bugs and assigning priorities at all times. It is especially helpful to have end-users prioritising bugs, as bugs which do not impact the user community can be left to a future when there is more time. I also note that many of the open bugs refer to the Windows operating system, and unless those they are easily reproducible they may never get seen by a developer unless the user community can get behind them and insist that (some of) such bugs are indeed important. Finally, if we are going to have hundreds of open bugs, we should consider an even/odd policy, and do 'bug fixes only' for even numbered releases ... That may not desirable if we have a large number of RFEs and/or features which developers are interested in. Certainly in the proprietary world, there are products which have benefitted from a period of stability in which six months of the developers time was spent on stabilisation, performance and bug fixing rather than new features. Ideally we need to know whether the user community would vote for quality and bug fixes or new features ... Ben

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Is pressure sensitivity supported in X11 running under OS X?
by Jonathan Chetwynd 17 Sep '05

17 Sep '05

Is pressure sensitivity supported in X11 running under OS X? if it is, what configuration instructions are there? if not, what is the issue, and why hasn't it been fixed in the past three or four years? regards Jonathan Chetwynd please take care when replying not to copy across lists. Howtos for linux X11 regarding pressure sensitivity: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/inputdev http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25151.html Wacom or other tablets use pressure sensitivity and applications such as GIMP and Inkscape use this facility, when available. Adobe Illustrator is a commercial application frequently used with wacom tablets and OS X. http://lists.apple.com/archives/X11-users OS X X11 mailing list archive

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Bounding Boxes
by Stephen Schrenk 17 Sep '05

17 Sep '05

Hi, I believe there is a problem with the way bounding boxes are calculated. At the moment the calculation assumes that lines have a >Round< join and cap style if the stroke is visible. This means, for example, that the bounding box of a 30-60-90 degree triangle does not preserve the proportions of the triangle and that a triangle with a Miter join style extends past the bounding box. It also means that a non-horizontal or vertical line with a Square cap extends outside the bounding box and that a line with a Butt cap doesn't reach the bounding box. I can't see any advantage to this particular definition. A better choice for defining the bounding box would be to use the entire visible area covered by an object. Advantage: More intuitive and probably what most people would expect. Disadvantage: More CPU intensive? May not be what is wanted for lines with markers - could ignore. There may be occasions where a different definition could be advantageous such as defining a bounding box assuming a Miter join style or using only the nodes (both preserve the proportions of regular objects). Perhaps these could be added as per object options. Tav

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Mac OS X developpement build
by Kees Cook 17 Sep '05

17 Sep '05

Hey, I just noticed your email didn't get sent to the list.... sorry I didn't respond; I didn't see it. :) We'll give you group access on sourceforge, and you can just upload it there (not through CVS or the file release section, but to the website area). If you've got CVS changes for packaging, put it in the patch tracker first, then we can move on to CVS. On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 05:41:41PM +0200, jiho wrote: > >We can make another directory up on sourceforge, alongside the win32 > >snapshots. > > I'll need CVS acces for that, which I don't have at the moment. my > sourceforge user account name is "irisson". > Where should I put the file exactly? I'm browsing inkscape CVS > without finding the win32 snapshot... > Then I guess that this must be linked from the download page. I would > be able to modify the download-en.inc file but I am no good in > german. How should I modify it: download the website, modify and > commit by CVS? -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape stats 9/15/05
by Nicu Buculei 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Ben Fowler wrote: > I would respectfully disagree with both of the substantive points in this > thread(!): But you forgot to reply to the list ;) > On 9/16/05, Nicu Buculei <nicu@...398...> wrote: > >>Bryce Harrington wrote: >> >>>[ snip ] >> >> > Where the project needs help right now is in closing bugs. >> > We have our bug tracker quite well under control, but there >> > are 258 open bugs, and it would be wonderful if we could cut >> > that down significantly before the 0.43 release. If you can >> > code, please check out if you can help close one or two, ... > > > I am sitting on three patches, waiting for a thaw so that I can commit > without endangering other's activities. There was never much of a thaw > after 0.42! > > Ideally, the tree should be open just after a release for new work > including patches for minor bugs, also for developers' prized features, > as there will be a period for stabilisation before the next release. > > Just before a release, the emphasis should be on testing, packaging > and to a lesser extent on 'blocking bugs'. Cutting down the number > of open bugs by commiting is highly likely to expose other bugs or > problems with the code that require stabilisation and should be done > (IMHO) early in the release cycle. > > I suspect that I am missing something ... > > Personally, I would suggest that some manageable number > bugs (somewhere between 10 an 50 given the number of developers) > are marked as must fix before 0.43 and patches for other bugs (the > 'minor bugs' I mentioned above) are held over. > > Ideally this should be based on the importance to the end-user > rather than priority or ease of fixing. (High priority and easy to fix bugs > should most certainly be fast tracked, but again, at the beginning > or in the middle of a release cycle). > > >>Other projects keep from time to time some events called "bug >>party", when people clean the bug/feature tracker, collaborating >>over IRC and closing as much as possible as DUPLICATE, WON'T >>FIX, INVALID, RESOLVED or prioritizing. It may have the benefit >>of attracting new contributors and giving non-developers a way >>to contribute. >> >>What do you think about the opportunity/usefulness of such a >>bug party? >> >>At 258 bugs and 448 RFEs the number may be small enough and >>the action not needed. > > > I wholeheartedly agree with these data and your suggestions, until > the last line, where there is the implication that 250 open bugs is > a small number. Really, we should be aiming at zero bugs, and > should have 10 or fewer open ones. I said "may be" because I really don't know what we should consider a large or small number of bugs, compared with larger projects like Mozilla or OOo, 258 open bugs is very little. > I would urge every effort to getting non-coders interested in triaging > bugs and assigning priorities at all times. It is especially helpful to > have end-users prioritising bugs, as bugs which do not impact > the user community can be left to a future when there is more > time. > > I also note that many of the open bugs refer to the Windows > operating system, and unless those they are easily reproducible > they may never get seen by a developer unless the user > community can get behind them and insist that (some of) such > bugs are indeed important. Well, it may also be the case some of those bugs can't be reproduced at all or referring to old versions of Inkscape and can be simply closed. > Finally, if we are going to have hundreds of open bugs, we should > consider an even/odd policy, and do 'bug fixes only' for even > numbered releases ... > > That may not desirable if we have a large number of RFEs and/or > features which developers are interested in. Certainly in the > proprietary world, there are products which have benefitted > from a period of stability in which six months of the developers > time was spent on stabilisation, performance and bug fixing > rather than new features. Ideally we need to know whether the > user community would vote for quality and bug fixes or new > features ... > > Ben > -- nicu

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Using Inkscape.
by Gavin Band 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Hi, First let me thank the developers for the fantastic Inkscape. I have a couple of questions about its usage. (It's a wish-list, really. I am using Inkscape 0.42.2). First, when using Inkscape on a large file such as this one: http://www.liv.ac.uk/~gband/shift_class_classification.svg it's impossible to zoom out so one can see the whole picture at once. Secondly, it would seem to me that one should "export" to file types which are not rich enough to recover the whole file, and "save" to other file types. But in Inkscape one has to "save as" (for example) Postscript. Then, if you want to keep a master copy for later editing you has to save as .svg as well, forcing you to keep choosing between the two filenames. This also seems inconsistent with the command-line switches where there is a --export-ps switch. Can't "Export bitmap" be turned into "Export", offering a choice of bitmaps, and remembering the chosen filename? Thanks, gav.

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Win32 help
by Jon A. Cruz 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

I've got a few bugs open for Win32 issues, and a few ideas on how to address them. What I don't have is a good way to compile or run Win32 tests here on my Mac. :-) What would be helpful would be anyone who could either build win32 versions with some tweaks or anyone who could run quick tests with those builds. Especially given our freeze state, I don't want to check anything in to CVS that hasn't gone through actual build and user testing. So... If anyone could help with either of those aspects (I've had a few people mention this in chat), just drop me a quick email directly and say if you can compile, test, or both. (no need to clutter the mailing lists to responses to this) Thanks.

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web-site translation / gettext
by Alexandre Prokoudine 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Hi, I didn't catch up when you were discussing details of i18n implementation for our beloved www.inkscape.org. All I want is to point out that web-sites can be translated via gettext just like applications. Example is http://audacity.sf.net, where you just download a .pot file (from http://audacity.sourceforge.net/community/translation), translate it in KBabel, poEdit, GTranslator or whatever else and commit it to CVS or send to one of developers. When anything at ("on" is the right preposition?) the site updates, .pot files updates as well (currently manually, but this could be done automatically, I think). Translators then only need to merge changes tro translations and send them back to developer or commit themselves. This is quite handy. I don't know details of implementation, but I think that Matt Brubeck, who is in charge for that site, could help you. His e-mail address is mbrubeck =at= cs.hmc.edu Alexandre

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Spell checking
by Tavmjong Bah 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Hi, I am wondering how I can get the spell checker to work. I have compiled Inkscape from today's cvs on a Fedora Core 4 system and as with past versions of Inkscape, the spell checking doesn't work. Yes, I am looking at the Text tab in the Text and Font dialog. Can someone give me some hints on where to begin to debug the problem? Thanks, Tav

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[msalsbury@...58...: Just passing along well-earned kudos]
by Bryce Harrington 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

----- Forwarded message from Michael Salsbury <msalsbury@...58...> ----- Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:26:47 -0700 From: Michael Salsbury <msalsbury@...58...> To: bryce@...58... Subject: Just passing along well-earned kudos Message body follows: I've only very recently heard of Inkscape (say in the last couple of months). Recently I downloaded the software and tried it out on a Mac OS X machine, as part of an article I'm researching for my blog. After spending a few hours with Inkscape, I was impressed enough with your work to write a "compare and contrast" review for my blog: http://mikesalsbury.com/mambo/content/view/231/1/ In case you don't have time to read it, I compared Inkscape to Macromedia FreeHand MXa and it compared very favorably. I found a few things in each product I didn't find in the other. Most of what I found in FreeHand that isn't in Inkscape didn't seem to be anything I would personally want, need, or expect to find in an illustration program. Since there's no appropriate forum I can find for communicating this information to the development team for Inkscape (i.e., it's not a bug, not a tip/trick, etc.) I decided to take a moment to write some of the developers directly. I'm very impressed with what you've done and look forward to seeing future releases! -- This message has been sent to you, a registered SourceForge.net user, by another site user, through the SourceForge.net site. This message has been delivered to your SourceForge.net mail alias. You may reply to this message using the "Reply" feature of your email client, or using the messaging facility of SourceForge.net at: https://sourceforge.net/sendmessage.php?touser=1046455 ----- End forwarded message -----

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URGENT: Website is BROKEN!
by unknown＠example.com 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Hello, test out the website. Also, people who are editing the website, make sure you test your changes before committing them to be public! All the left hand menu links are to change languages and lead no where! Can someone fix this please and quick? Jon

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Fwd: [Inkscape-devel] Mac OS X developpement build
by jiho 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

sorry i replied to the sender only. hjere is a mail for the list. Begin forwarded message: > On 15 sept. 05, at 17:09, Kees Cook wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:07:45PM +0200, jiho wrote: >> >> >>> Here is what is activated at the end of the compilation process. >>> Is it >>> OK or do you want gnome-print and gnome-vfs? >>> >>> >> >> gnome-print should stay off. gnome-vfs is a "nice to have", and lets >> you load URLs from the commandline. >> > > ok. next build will include it. actually, I am switching to tiger > now because a friend gave me his dvd so next builds will be done on > tiger. > > >>> If this is ok, where should I put it now? I have no space to host it >>> myself. >>> If this proves to be useful I plan on making such a build on a >>> weekly >>> basis. >>> >>> >> >> We can make another directory up on sourceforge, alongside the win32 >> snapshots. >> > > I'll need CVS acces for that, which I don't have at the moment. my > sourceforge user account name is "irisson". > Where should I put the file exactly? I'm browsing inkscape CVS > without finding the win32 snapshot... > Then I guess that this must be linked from the download page. I > would be able to modify the download-en.inc file but I am no good > in german. How should I modify it: download the website, modify and > commit by CVS? JiHO --- Windows, c'est un peu comme le beaujolais nouveau : a chaque nouvelle cuvee on sait que ce sera degueulasse, mais on en prend quand meme par masochisme. --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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Mac OS X developpement build
by jiho 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

Hi list, Thanks to the help of Michael Wybrow who made the process really easy I have a development binary of inkscape for mac os X build from last CVS snapshot. Here is what is activated at the end of the compilation process. Is it OK or do you want gnome-print and gnome-vfs? Configuration: Source code location: . Destination path prefix: /Volumes/files/softwares/inkscape_compiled/ Compiler: g++ CPPFLAGS: -I/sw/include -O3 -Wall CXXFLAGS: -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter -I/sw/include -O3 -Wall CFLAGS: -Wall -W -I/sw/include -O3 -Wall LDFLAGS: -L/sw/lib Use Xft font database: yes Use gnome-print: no Use gnome-vfs: no Use openoffice files: yes Use MMX optimizations: no Use relocation support: no Use Python extensions: skipped Use Perl extensions: skipped Enable Inkboard: no If this is ok, where should I put it now? I have no space to host it myself. If this proves to be useful I plan on making such a build on a weekly basis. JiHO --- Windows, c'est un peu comme le beaujolais nouveau : a chaque nouvelle cuvee on sait que ce sera degueulasse, mais on en prend quand meme par masochisme. --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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Exposing low-level errors to user?
by Colin Marquardt 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

Hi, should we expose low-level errors such as this example here to users?: #: ../src/jabber_whiteboard/message-utilities.cpp:168 msgid "" "ID for new object is NULL even after generation and lookup attempts: the new " "object will NOT be sent, nor will any of its child objects!" I don't think the intended audience can make any use of this. If this is just meant for debugging, then please don't mark it as translatable. Also, there are some string like this: "%1 has invited you to a " "whiteboard session.\n" Please split the string so that only the part inside the is marked up translatable, i.e. "%1 has invited you to a "whiteboard session." In the name of the poor translators :), Colin -- I don't believe in astrology. But then I'm an Aquarius, and Aquarians don't believe in astrology.

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Compiling problem on win32
by Joshua A. Andler 14 Sep '05

14 Sep '05

This is too bizarre... with fresh CVS, the newest libs, and a new install of mingw that's all up to date (fresh install, not upgrade), I am unable compile. I have everything in default locations so I am sure that is not the issue. It appears that it might be translation related since it references i18n stuff, but I could be mistaken. Anyway, the compiler dies with the following: ---snip--- In file included from c:/gtk28/include/glibmm-2.4/glibmm/i18n.h:27, from dialogs/clonetiler.cpp:19: c:/gtk28/include/glib-2.0/glib/gi18n.h:25:1: warning: "_" redefined In file included from dialogs/clonetiler.cpp:14: c:/gtk28/perl/lib/CORE/config.h:3782:1: warning: this is the location of the pre vious definition In file included from dialogs/../verbs.h:16, from dialogs/clonetiler.cpp:28: dialogs/../require-config.h:2:3: #error "Must #include config.h (ifdef HAVE_CONF IG_H) before anything else." make[1]: *** [dialogs/clonetiler.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `C:/cvs/inkscape/inkscape_pedro/inkscape/src' make: *** [dist] Error 2 ---------- If anyone has any ideas, I'd be more than happy to try anything at this point. -Josh

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print direct menue not default
by Adib Taraben 14 Sep '05

14 Sep '05

Hi , in the current CVS version I miss the print-direct function, is it only a wrong default in meues.xml ? When I delete all my personal settings and restart Inkscape I miss this menue. The print function is there. I would expect to have all possible menues in the default. I know there was a thread about this. What is the curent status ? Thx, Adib.

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Windows Packaging: WinLibre
by Pierre-Jean COUDERT 14 Sep '05

14 Sep '05

Peter, This Beta was issued in July. The final 0.4 release will include the last Inkscape release. I hope to release it this month (I've still a lot of work with the Google Summer of Code students...) PJC -----Original Message----- From: Peter Moulder [mailto:Peter.Moulder@...38...] Sent: mercredi, 14. septembre 2005 00:53 To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Pierre-Jean Coudert Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Windows Packaging: WinLibre On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 09:05:36AM +1000, Pierre-Jean Coudert wrote: > >Is there anything we can do to work more closely with WinLibre ? > > We would be very happy to work more closely with you guys. It could help > to move the projects in a more user friendly direction. I notice in yesterday's announcement of WinLibre 0.4.0 beta1 (http://www.winlibre.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=323) that it includes inkscape 0.41. You might consider doing something to save yourself from a barrage of "Inkscape gives this nasty error about missing dependencies" questions. One way of addressing this would of course be to switch to 0.42.2 :) . Are there any issues in 0.42.2 (not present in 0.41) that you'd like to tell us? Is the exclusion of 0.42.2 just because you haven't had enough time to test it (and there were some windows problems in the original 0.42), or is there something else? pjrm.

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Windows Packaging: WinLibre
by Peter Moulder 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

[Bcc'd to Pierre-Jean Coudert of WinLibre; replies will go to inkscape-devel alone: I don't want to send too much unsolicited mail his way. Pierre-Jean, tu peux voir les réponses à http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=36054 si tu veux, et tu peux me répondre si tu veux que je fasse suivre à inkscape-devel.] Every now and again, we come across packaging problems on Windows, and we say "It would be good to be able to hand these problems off to distributors, as we do for a number of un*x distributions", or "Someone should create a windows package consisting of inkscape, gimp, and perhaps other gtk software, so that they can share libraries." I've just today discovered WinLibre, which does this: http://www.winlibre.com/en/index.php It comes in two variants: a 650kB version that allows you to select which components you want (like a net install of a gnu/linux distribution), or a 171MB version suitable for putting on a CD. However, I don't yet know to what extent WinLibre engages in packaging activities: i.e. do they just grab the Windows binary that we provide, or do they get the source so that they can share libraries between the programs ? (If it gives any clues, the News page mentions handling package dependencies, and that it uses InnoSetup 5.0.) Is there anything we can do to work more closely with WinLibre ? (Another compilation of Free Software for Windows is http://www.theopencd.org/. It has a good reputation, but it doesn't yet include Inkscape, and my impression from a couple of minutes at their web site is that they just use the binaries provided by individual projects rather than do much packaging/integration work themselves. As I say, that's just an impression that may well be wrong.) pjrm.

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multiple selection and transform
by jiho 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

Hi list, I would like to gather opinions about a particular usability point of inkscape and maybe suggest a change in the way transformations are applied. When selecting multiple objects and applying any transformation, they are treated as a whole. For example a rotation would rotation all objects around the center of their combination. I think it might be better to apply the same transformation to each object (and rotate each one around it's own center). Indeed, if you want to treat these objects as a whole you already have the possibility of grouping them (which is only one click), applying the transformation and then, possibly, degroup them if you want to further edit each object. On the other hand, let say you want to rotate at 45° twenty horizontal text items around their centers you will have to apply 20 times the same transformation. In addition, consider you want to rotate multiple selected object of 90°, there is at present an "inconsistency" in the transformations: objects are treated as a whole when rotating them with the transform palette but each object is rotated individually when using the "rotate by 90°" buttons of the GUI. Is all that a feature? a bug? or just a matter of taste? ;-) JiHO --- Windows, c'est un peu comme le beaujolais nouveau : a chaque nouvelle cuvee on sait que ce sera degueulasse, mais on en prend quand meme par masochisme. --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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More bugs with stroke
by John Taber 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

Just a few more bugs to report with the stroke dialog: 1) on a circle, the stroke width value spin button only increases even when trying to spin down. 2) End Markers a) for a line pointing to 8:00, the start/end marker is reversed, and then won't change b) at times the end marker popup does not display all the choices, or when you select one, it jumps to another. I would rank these as medium level bugs.

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Re: Passing along a well-earned kudos!
by bulia byak 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

On 9/13/05, Michael Salsbury <msalsbury@...58...> wrote: > I've only very recently heard of Inkscape (say in the last > couple of months). Recently I downloaded the software and > tried it out on a Mac OS X machine, as part of an article I'm > researching for my blog. After spending a few hours with > Inkscape, I was impressed enough with your work to write > a "compare and contrast" review for my blog: > > http://mikesalsbury.com/mambo/content/view/231/1/ Thanks, very much appreciated! I wish there were more such comparisons for different vector editors. I added a link to it to our FH page: http://wiki.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MacromediaFreehand I'm cc'ing the devel list so others can comment too. My comments: > Import: Actually you're being too kind to Inkscape, its import plainly sucks. It can import all these formats, but in many cases this requires installing additional helper apps, and the quality is generally poor. > Automatically draw a "connector" between objects, which works something like the arrows on a flowcharting tool We will have a first draft of the Connector tool in 0.43. > A variety of "effects" for manipulating objects, like fractalization Many path effects are available in the Effect menu, which is currently off by default. You need to have Python installed for extensions to work. We plan to make them work out of the box in a future version. Among others we have Kochify fractal effect and node randomization. > In Inkscape, it appears you can only select one end of the color you're trying to create the gradient from. The other color it uses is apparently the background color underneath that object. No, of course not. It's only that the DEFAULT gradient goes from opaque to transparent of the same color. Of course you can change both colors and transparency of both ends of gradient (and of additional stops in between, though this is currently less intuitive than it should be). For example in Gradient tool select the bottom handle, open Fill&Stroke or Swatches and assign green color with no transparency to that handle. You can also use the Dropper to assign colors to the gradient handles. Or you can edit the gradient in the Gradient Editor (double click a handle to open it). -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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0.43 questions
by bulia byak 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

- Do we activate the Effects menu in 0.43? I think we should. - Did we find a volunteer to do static RPMs? The need for them is definitely there. - Michael, what of your TODO for the connector tool may be ready for the 0.43? The bug with ellipses at least should be fixed. - What is the status of the other SoC projects with regard to their availability in 0.43? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Confirmation of dates for the Gimp? Conference
by Dave Neary 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

Hi all, So - we've decided on dates for the facilities for a GimpCon 2006 - March 17/18/19 in Lyon, France. The provisional plan is to have 2 days "open to the public" presentations of free software graphics software. The third day will continue to be open to the public, but there will be no talks planned. The day is available to developers to do a hackfest, or have meetings, or chat & drink beer. Perhaps all 3 :) I've confirmed talks from Oyvind Kolas on a general image processing talk, featuring his non-linear editor and the (future) new core of the GIMP, a talk from Sven Neumann on the GIMP, and a talk from MrB and mrdocs over at Scribus. I will also be contacting OpenICC, littlecms, GutenbergPrint (formerly GimpPrint), Krita and Xsane, to see if their developers can come, and if they're interested in giving presentations. This is going to be a cool weekend. It'd be great to have a presentation on vector graphics. Unfortunately, I don't know if there are any Inkscape developers in Europe, and if there are, whether ye're interested in getting together. Please drop me a line ASAP. Looking forward to seeing ye in Lyon, Dave. -- David Neary bolsh@...85...

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inkview broken
by bulia byak 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

In the current CVS, 'inkview *.svg' shows all SVG files on top of each other, i.e. does not clear the previous file from the canvas before showing the next one. Really weird. Does anyone have an idea of what's going on? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Inkboard, Win32 and 0.43
by unknown＠example.com 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

David mentioned he wasn't going to get Inkboard ported to Bob's PedroXMMP library before the feature freeze kicked in. Do we consider this work an effort to add a feature or fix a bug? I know there are plenty of people who would love to get this into the 0.43 release. Perhaps if I file a bug like "Inkboard doesn't work on Win32". :) Aaron Spike

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Website translation procedure
by Bryce Harrington 13 Sep '05

13 Sep '05

Hi all, pistoncito asked about how to do translations of the website currently. I figure this suggests we need some sort of documentation, so here's a start. It sounds like we will need to change this process once we figure out how to do the automatic web browser language detection, but until that gets sorted out, we should use this process. I'll also post this to Wiki so folks can update it as better approaches are worked out for it. http://wiki.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WebsiteEditing Translating the Inkscape Website ================================ 1. Do a CVS checkout of the website module. 2. Create a subdirectory at the top level with your language code. I.e.: inkscape_web/es/ 3. Copy pages from the main site into your subdir structure, and begin translating them. Look in the other translated areas for examples of what needs translated. Note: The tutorial translations in the doc/ directory are handled separately from the website translation. These are the files in inkscape_web/doc/*/ that have .XX.html extensions. You do not need to do anything about these pages. Note: The translation of doxygen, wiki, and the various SF pages are separate from the website translation. You do not need to do anything about these pages. 4. Add a flag for your language in the images directory. It should be named inkscape_web/images/flag-XX.png. (where XX is your language code). Next add an img for the flag to inkscape_web/includes/header.php See how the other flags are done in that file as an example. 5. Add a news item to the index page announcing your translation. You are encouraged to write it in both English and your native language. 6. If you have CVS access, then commit your changes to the site. See the Website Editing and Working With CVS documentation for directions. If you do not have CVS access, then show your translation to one of the Inkscape administrators for review. They will then give you access to CVS and the website, so you can deploy your changes. Bryce

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host reorg
by Ralf Stephan 12 Sep '05

12 Sep '05

Hello, a quick glance tells me there is no RFE I as beginner with the code could possibly implement in short time, so I want to offer my help in the host reorganisation away from SF. Maybe people can use this thread also to collect things that have to be done in this regard. My limitation is that I have no broadband internet, nor a 24h line at my hands, though. But surely there are other things to do. I want the switch, badly, and I think it is more important than RFEs. ralf PS: no flames or RFE discssions please in this thread

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape crashes on "Object - Transform" with "QT" theme on kde
by Ralf Stephan 12 Sep '05

12 Sep '05

> > > Hello, I set my kde to theme all gtk2 apps with its own theme which is > > > baghira. > > > > > > If I run inkscape under this setup and go to Object - Transform inkscape > > > crashes with this > > > > What inkscape version is this? > > > One in cvs and 0.42.2 did it as well You may be right that this is mainly a problem with your theme, but it exposes a problem in inkscape. Not having looked deeper, it appears that somewhere we don't check for null pixmaps. I'll file a bug on that. Thanks for your report. ralf

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planet charset to utf8?
by unknown＠example.com 12 Sep '05

12 Sep '05

Perhaps someone should change the characterset for planet.inkscape.org to utf8. The recent polylingual news posts don't display properly in my browser. Aaron Spike

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Re: Makefile for clipartbrowser
by Greg Steffensen 12 Sep '05

12 Sep '05

Wow, thanks a ton! I'll use your Makefile to help myself learn how the work better, so that hopefully I'll be able to keep it updated myself in the future. Running "make dist" currently produces an error though: # Copy in all dist and package files to both /bin/install -c -m 644 AUTHORS ChangeLog DESIGN COPYING clipartbrowser.glade clipartbrowser.conf packages/clipartbrowser- /bin/install -c -m 755 clipartbrowser clipartbrowser.inx indexClipart.py indexClipart.py packages/clipartbrowser- /bin/install: will not overwrite just-created `packages/clipartbrowser-/indexClipart.py' with `indexClipart.py' make: *** [distprep] Error 1 Cool...you should check out the Makefile to see how to add files to it, > etc. Also, make sure to update the new ChangeLog with any changes before > committing. Also, you might want to scan through the README to update > that for users. It seems quite old. README updated. Ok, I spent a couple of hours just trying to get this thing already to > release. I think that many ppl. will be interested in a global release > of this project, as there is now interest from KDE devs and it makes > OCAL even more accessible. Thanks a ton; I'm thrilled to hear that. I'm going to slightly refactor the code to make it easier to use a QT or GTK interface, so that I can release a QT version too. Greg

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clipartbrowser
by Jon Phillips 12 Sep '05

12 Sep '05

Heya, Greg and others... I finished the Makefile for packaging and installation for clipartbrowser (check out from cvs as module: clipartbrowser). Please check it out and test it out. Greg, I think clipartbrowser.py should be renamed clipartbrowser, and then it needs to be installed into /usr/bin Right now everything is by default getting installed into /usr/share/clipartbrowser I removed the installation into Inkscape's extensions directory and focused on just getting the Makefile to build zip, tar.gz, tar.bz2 and make install and uninstall working. Please check over so we can do the first release of clipartbrowser under the Inkscape project and add it to the main sf.net Inkscape page. There is still more to do, but these changes should move it closer to being a nice good linux citizen standalone from Inkscape. Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org)

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Patch to XML::RSS::SimpleGen for pubDate (was Re: Inkscape RSS)
by Bryce Harrington 12 Sep '05

12 Sep '05

Hi Sean, The attach patch adds pubDate to XML::RSS::SimpleGen. Bryce On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:08:28AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Bryce Harrington wrote: > >Hi Nicu, > > > >Can you update the planet sites to pull from > >http://www.inkscape.org/inkscape.rss ? > > can you add to the feed a <pubDate></pubDate> tag, so Planet know to > insert posts at the correct place? > > example from your personal feed: > <pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:53:46 -0700</pubDate> > > otherwise all inkscape posts will be placed always at the top of the list > > -- > nicu --- SimpleGen.pm.orig 2005-09-11 21:46:00.000000000 -0700 +++ SimpleGen.pm 2005-09-11 22:11:12.000000000 -0700 @@ -320,11 +320,15 @@ =item C<rss_item( I<url, title, description> );> +=item C<rss_item( I<url, title, description, pubDate> );> + This adds a new item to the current feed. You will need to specify the URL to add (and it should be a valid-looking URL, starting with "I<something:>", and not containing any spaces). You may also specify -the title, but it's optional. And finally, you can optionally specify a -description. (You can remember this because it starts with the essential +the title, description, and published date, but those are all +optional. (You can remember this because it starts with the essential item first, and progresses toward the most optional.) Leading and tailing whitespace is removed from whichever of I<url, @@ -354,7 +358,7 @@ =cut -sub item { # Add an item: (url, title, description) +sub item { # Add an item: (url, title, description, [pubDate]) my($self, @params) = @_; if( grep defined($_) && length($_), @params ) { push @{$self->{'items'}}, @@ -703,13 +707,13 @@ sub _process_item_params { my $self = shift; - my($url, $title, $description) = + my($url, $title, $description, $pubDate) = map {; (defined($_) && m/\S/) ? $_ : '' } # contentfulness filter map $self->html2text($_), # here's where we de-htmlify things @_; ; - - for($url, $title, $description) { + + for($url, $title, $description, $pubDate) { if(ref $_ ) { } # Okay elsif(defined $_) { s/^\s+//s; s/\s+$//s } else { $_ = '' } @@ -730,7 +734,7 @@ ); } } - return ($url, $title, $description); + return ($url, $title, $description, $pubDate); } #.......................................................................... @@ -771,13 +775,14 @@ DEBUG and print scalar(@items), " items at hand:\n"; foreach my $i (@items) { - my($url, $title, $description) = @$i; + my($url, $title, $description, $pubDate) = @$i; DEBUG > 1 and print "I: (u $url) (t $title) (d $description)\n"; next unless $url or $title or $description; push @xml_out, "<item>$MaybeNL", (map "$MaybeIndent$_$MaybeNL", length($title) ? "<title>$title</title>" : (), + length($pubDate) ? "<pubDate>$pubDate</pubDate>" : (), length($url) ? "<link>$url</link>" : (), length($description) ? "<description>$description</description>" : (), ),

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Translated website
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 11 Sep '05

11 Sep '05

Hi Guys! :) I talked to bbyak and he told me, to ask here if it is possible to have a localized version of www.inkscape.org, like www.inkscape.org/de/ I guess, the the News are stored separatedly, so a translated page could use the original messages until they are translated, too. Maybe one of the spanish users (must be some of them :) ) is willing to translate the website, too, so it's worth the effort. :) I made a concept of how a the translated website could look like. It's here: http://inkscape.org/doc/basic/tutorial-basic.de.html Greets, Daniel

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Inkscape crashes on "Object - Transform" with "QT" theme on kde
by unknown＠example.com 11 Sep '05

11 Sep '05

Hello, I set my kde to theme all gtk2 apps with its own theme which is baghira. If I run inkscape under this setup and go to Object - Transform inkscape crashes with this QPixmap: Invalid pixmap parameters QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin() QPainter::setBrush: Will be reset by begin() Emergency save activated! Emergency save completed. Inkscape will close now. If you can reproduce this crash, please file a bug at www.inkscape.org<http://www.inkscape.org> with a detailed description of the steps leading to the crash, so we can fix it. Segmentation fault So it is the fault of my themes and such and maybe being too cutting edge but I also figured out a fix for it I put this into ~/.inkscape.theme "include "/usr/share/themes/Mist/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" style "user-font" { font_name="Arial 12" } widget_class "*" style "user-font" gtk-theme-name="Mist" gtk-font-name="Arial 12" and then run inkscape like this GTK2_RC_FILES=~/.inkscape.theme /usr/bin/inkscape So inkscape uses the Mist theme and everything works fine!

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Deleting a node with Ctrl+Alt+click
by Jean-Francois Lemaire 11 Sep '05

11 Sep '05

Hello, I've just noticed that one can delete a node from a path with the node tool by Ctrl+Alt+clicking it. This is so useful I'm surprised I don't see this mentioned in the Release Notes for 0.43. Was this already working before the /extremely useful/ recent additions to node editing? Also, I don't understand this, also in the Release Notes: "As in Selector, if you press Shift before starting to drag, you always get a node selection rubberband rectangle (even if you start on a path [but not a node!])." P.S. If double-click creates a new node, shouldn't double-clicking a node delete it? -- Jean-François Lemaire

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inkscape-tester mailing list subscription ....
by inkblotter 10 Sep '05

10 Sep '05

... takes you to inkscape-cvs list subscription instead. The other subscriptions all seem to work correctly.

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Proposal for a spanish inkscape-user-es list
by Bryce Harrington 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

There's been a proposal to create a new list for Spanish speakers. Does anyone have any comment on this before I set it up? Also, I'm thinking that for language-specific user lists we should require at least 3 people pledged to using the list before we set it up. Does that sound okay? Bryce On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:36:20PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Silvana Marques wrote: > > > >I don't speak spanish but I can understand it a little. My name is > >Silvana > >and I live in S?o Paulo, Brazil. I'm interested in joining a > >spanish-wrote > >Inkscape list. > > then I guess the best thing to do is for some of the project admins > (Bryce?) to create a new list at sourceforge, named inkscape-user-es.

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Updated win32 gtkmm libs
by Bob Jamison 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

Gtkmm.org announced their 2.8 release today. Since this one includes a bugfix for exporting Gtk::TreeViewColumn that we need, I built Glibmm and Gtkmm for our win32 bundle. It also includes the recent updates to Cairo 1.0 and Gtk2.8.3. It is here: http://inkscape.org/win32/gtk28-050908.7z This win32 build was made with it, if anyone would like to test it: http://inkscape.org/win32/Inkscape0509081439.zip Win32 builders probably would want to keep their older copy of the library bundle until they know that the newer one works. Bob

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cvs web link broken
by Ralf Stephan 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

Hi, the "CVS" link from the inkscape SF link bar is broken, as of now, it gives an empty page: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=93438 while the pages that should be linked to themselves are still there: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/inkscape/ ralf

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About Box
by Kees Cook 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

I've implemented a gtkmm'd replacement for the About dialog, which includes the now-standard "License" and "Credits" dialogs, a-la Gnome. The "Credits" dialog includes all the authors and translators (it's easy to add a "documenters" tab too). Right now, the license and people lists are hard-coded in src/ui/dialog/aboutbox.cpp, but I'd like it to load from "COPYING", "AUTHORS", and (the new) "TRANSLATORS" files instead. That'll come next. :) To make the TRANSLATORS file, I made a quick dump of all the translators I could find in the po/*.po files. Arpad, is this a "correct" list? I did a quick sort on it by first name, since I just wanted to get something in there. There are strange width issues with the gtkmm'ified canvas view. I'm sort of just working around it at the moment. Hopefully this can get straightened out as we move more stuff to gtkmm. Also, can someone more familiar with memory allocation in gtkmm look over my code and let me know if I did anything silly with pointers/allocation? (Oh, and I disabled the "show license" verb since that's now part of the new about dialog.) -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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First commit of DOM source
by Bob Jamison 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

This morning I committed most of the DOM source to src/dom. I spent the rest of the morning removing warnings, and getting the compile to work nicely on win32. I will add the Makefile_insert when I get a chance. Until it is hooked up to the autotool tree, it should not hurt anyone's build. I included the .idl's, so that people can see how the main .h's try to follow the w3c specs. Now that it is committed, its glaring unfinished-ness will coerce me to work on it until it is done. :-) Bob

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Pen shortcut, xywh precision
by bulia byak 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

There are two RFEs that I want to do something about but not before I hear people's opinions: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1167787&group_id=9… I agree that Pen deservers a better F-key shortcut than Shift+F6. But I also need the freehand drawing (F6) very often and don't want to demote it. Any ideas? http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1165049&group_id=9… Are there others who would like to see 0.001 precision in X/Y/W/H, or is this a too specialized need? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Getting involved
by Bryce Harrington 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 09:11:54AM +0200, Ralf Stephan wrote: > You wrote a while ago: > > ... > > Next is the main window work. This involves conversion of two code > > objects: SPView and SPDesktop. Each of those also have a variety of > > accessory classes to convert as well. This is the area I've been > > working on, and I'm trying to do it by first refactoring these from C to > > C++. If anyone's interested in working on this, I can give more details. > > Yes, please. I assume ui/view/edit.* is the new class for SPDesktop, > so I guess what is next is completing Edit according to SPDesktop > and test it in the --new-gui environment. After that, That's correct. However, I found that straight up conversion of SPDesktop to ::Edit to be difficult; I attempted to do this in one all-at-once conversion but it quickly unravelled into a mess. I think the best approach is to do the conversion a piece at a time. Start at an easy point and work your way in. The place I found to start was with converting SPView to C++. I've got this about half done, and it'll be fairly obvious what's left to do. After that, it may make sense to go ahead and knock out conversion of the SPViewWidget class next, since that's not too complicated. Since SPDesktop derives from SPView, having SPView in C++ is the first step to convert SPDesktop. Next thing would be to start converting SPDesktop into a C++ class. Next move the file(s) to their proper final location. Finally rename SPDesktop to Inkscape::UI::View::Edit. I found for the renaming, that it helped to create a typedef. Note that there are some forward definitions of the class that get in the way; I wasn't sure if it was better to remove them or to try to refactor them. Ultimately, though, at some point you have to just start going through the whole codebase and rename stuff. That sounds like a lot of work, but actually for SPView I found I was able to do it over the course of a long airplane flights. ;-) > > ... > > Fourth, there are several main window components such as the statusbar, > > context menu, and so on that have not received any attention so far. We > > have the gtk+ code for these items, and they just need to be converted > > to gtkmm. I suspect the best approach is to refactor them in place. > > The current statusbar code is pretty good, although it could use a few > > enhancements. The current context menu is okay but could use a lot more > > attention to make it more usable. > > > Do I have the order of things right? > It is likely I will take over single steps of the process *without* > taking over the whole thing officially, as I like to work on several > different micro-tasks at the same time, probably going the circle > documentation->bugfixing->refactoring->doc... > > Thus, I will ask you from time to time 'what next?' until I have > the big picture. Yes, I think you've got it. The process isn't totally linear; there's several things that could be worked on independently. Let me know how your progress goes; I expect to keep plugging away at it too. Bryce

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problem with menus.xml
by MenTaLguY 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

I've just realized a rather big problem with menus.xml: it tends to freeze the menus in the state they were in at the time menus.xml was created. If we release with it in its present form, it means that users may not see the benefits of future menu reorganizations. -mental

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[Fwd: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Proposal for a spanish inkscape-user-es list]
by Lucas Vieites Fariña 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

Sorry, I replied to Bryce instead of the list. This would make four of us then. I'll tell people around here about the creation of this list. Cheers, Lucas --------- Mensaje reenviado -------- De: Lucas Vieites <lucas@...212...> Para: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...> Asunto: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Proposal for a spanish inkscape-user-es list Fecha: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:26:28 +0200 El mié, 07-09-2005 a las 10:06 -0700, Bryce Harrington escribió: > There's been a proposal to create a new list for Spanish speakers. > Does anyone have any comment on this before I set it up? > I think it's a good idea. I've been seeing a lot of interest in Inkscape here in Spain, so I guess in South-America there's even more. > Also, I'm thinking that for language-specific user lists we should > require at least 3 people pledged to using the list before we set it > up. Does that sound okay? > Fine, count me in. > Bryce > > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:36:20PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Silvana Marques wrote: > > > > > >I don't speak spanish but I can understand it a little. My name is > > >Silvana > > >and I live in S?o Paulo, Brazil. I'm interested in joining a > > >spanish-wrote > > >Inkscape list. > > > > then I guess the best thing to do is for some of the project admins > > (Bryce?) to create a new list at sourceforge, named inkscape-user-es. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel -- Lucas Vieites - Dept. desarrollo Asix Informática <http://www.asixinformatica.com/> Tel/Fax: +34 986 54 26 98 Email: info@...212...

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NEW: tool cursors
by bulia byak 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

Based on a patch by Joshua Blocher, I committed the new cursors for Pen, Pencil, and Calligraphy tools. Not ideal but better than nothing. Feel free to tweak (src/pixmaps/*.xpm). -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Haciendo un resumen de inkscape en español / Good night Making a summary of inkscape in Spanish
by Norberto Periz 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

Buenas Noches Haciendo un resumen de inkscape en español: Hay que mandar un mail preguntando quienes quisieran participar, y en caso de ser muchos, se arma una lista oficial de inkscape en castellano y/o español. ¡Aquí se cumple, el primer requisito!. Por el "no": no hacer nada. Por el "si": Enviar mail a: delafe@...400... Poner en Asunto: "si Oficial" Segunda opción: Y en el caso de ser pocos, se puede armar una lista no oficial de inkscape en castellano y/o español igual. De mi parte, no se nada de "inkscape", pero cuando nací (hace 55 años) tampoco sabia escribir. Por el "no": no hacer nada. Por el "si": Enviar mail a: nperiz@...400... Poner en Asunto: "si, y que Dios nos ayude" Tengamos en cuenta que tenemos traductor oficial ya nombrado "Guillermo Movia". El cual no dijo que si pero, ya esta trabajando. Y de mi parte prometo contar bien los votos. Y tenerlos al tanto por este medio. ¿Cuanto tiempo esperamos? ¿Cuantas veces habrá que repetir este mensaje en este sito? ¿Conocen algún interesado? Saludos desde Argentina Norberto Periz __________________________________________________________________ Traducción de Babel Fish: Good night Making a summary of inkscape in Spanish: It is necessary to send a mail asking who they loved to participate, and in case of being many, an official list is armed of inkscape in Castilian and/or Spanish. Here one is fulfilled, the first requirement. By "not": not to do anything. By "if": To send mail a: delafe@...400... Poner in Subject: "si Oficial" Second option: And in the case of being few, nonofficial can be armed to a list of inkscape in Castilian and/or Spanish equal. Of my part, not nothing of "inkscape", but when I was not born (for 55 years) either wise to write. By "not": not to do anything. By "if": To send mail a: nperiz@...400... Poner in Subject: "si, and that God helps us" Let us consider that we already have official translator named "Guillermo Movia". Which did not say that if but, already this working. And of my part I promise to count the votes well. And to have them to as much by this means. Whichever time we hoped? Whichever times it will be necessary to repeat this message in this situated one? They know some interested? Greetings from Argentina Norberto Periz -- AlumnoEterno y Buen Ladrón ¡¡ ProUsuario !! de cuerpo y alma. cuando lees algo expresado por mi, ¡Sonríe! que es un asunto serio. http://www.prousuarios.com.ar/ "No se puede ayudar a quien no quiere ser ayudado" del Profe Roman: http://elistas.opensa.com.ar/pipermail/prousuarios_lista/2005-July/000150.h… Si me pierdo el cielo, plugo a Dios que sea por pecador. Pero no por boludo.

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Thank you soo much!!!
by David Christian Berg 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

Hey Bulia! A fucking, big huge thank you for the improved curve editing in CVS!!! This is great! Thanx again! David

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Open Clip Art Library Release 0.17 Announcement :: www.openclipart.org
by Jon Phillips 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

Sept 7, 2005 UTC - Release 0.17 of the Open Clip Art Library (http://www.openclipart.org) is now available on-line for download as an individual package consisting of over 5000 images submitted by over 500 international artists. The size of this release successfully exceeds the months "OCAL 5K Pledge" of 5000 images thanks to the contributions by new and old contributors. A quick overview of this release: * Library consists of over 5000 images! * New Clip Art Browser by Greg Steffensen * Document Management System (DMS) now linked into website for testing * New clipart_package CVS module for building packages * Added RPM packages of the release Due to the success of the "OCAL 5K Pledge," the next goal is for 10K images (10,000 clip art images) by the end of 2005. The development community encourages all types of artists to contribute images to the library this month in support of the theme, Pets - one step towards the end of year OCAL 10K Pledge. The Open Clip Art Library. Drawing Together. Use the following URLs to download the latest release of the Open Clip Art Library: http://openclipart.org/downloads/0.17/openclipart-0.17-full.tar.bz2 http://openclipart.org/downloads/0.17/openclipart-0.17-full.tar.gz http://openclipart.org/downloads/0.17/openclipart-0.17-full.zip http://openclipart.org/downloads/0.17/openclipart-0.17-win32.exe The Open Clip Art Library (http://www.openclipart.org/) aims to create an archive of user contributed clip art that may be freely used. All graphics submitted to the project are placed into the Public Domain according to the Creative Commons Public Domain Declaration.

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fileformat svg+images
by Pim Snel 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

Hi, Is there a way to publish a document as package including the images that are linked to the document. It would make it far more easy to send inkscape work to someone per email and also to move documents to other file structures. I know inkscape is able to show a base encoded image but this makes inkscape very slow, so this is probably not the right method. If not would it be possible to create a extention which could save a file as tarball or zip with the images in it? If so I will try to create it? Thanks, Pim -- Lingewoud B.V. | Tel. +31 418 663963 Maasdijk 4 | Fax. +31 418 663053 5328 BG Rossum | pim@...982... The Netherlands | www.lingewoud.com

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swatches?
by David Christian Berg 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

Hey guys! I don't quite get it. I kinda assume that I'm just not understanding how I can add colours to a custom swatches palette. I mean swatches have been around for quite a while now, but so far I don't see the point in it, if I can't create my own palette with custom colours. Please help me with this. It's important for icon themes, publishing, well everything. Is is seriously not yet possible? David

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Xar file format (aka Flare) and Xarlib
by Alan Horkan 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

Before I forget.... It seems Xara was at one point trying to compete with Flash and released their Flare file format which later came to be known as Xar. The anti SVG and SWF proganda is almost funny and it is about as interesting as reading a file format specification can be. The Xar specifications are available on the Xara website http://www.xara.com/support/docs/webformat/spec/ There code seems to be available for processing the file format and the terms of use do not seem draconian so it might be possible to make use of it and maybe allow Inkscape to import Xara files. Given how interested bulia is in Xara perhaps he is already aware of this but I hadn't heard any mention of it before (on the list/wiki/bugtracker) and thought it might be of interest. Sincerely Alan Horkan Inkscape http://inkscape.org Abiword http://www.abisource.com Dia http://gnome.org/projects/dia/ Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org Alan's Diary http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/

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Icon Preview Feedback
by Ted Gould 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

http://uncommonplace.com/blog/?p=209 Here is a guy making icons in Inkscape. He has a few beefs about icon preview. I think most are known, but I thought I'd post it anyway, just in case :) --Ted

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Win32 inkview in 0.43 release ?
by Adib Taraben 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

Hi, inkview compiles fine under Win32. At least it was not part of the distributions. As is has been ask already do want to ship inkview in the next release ? The changes in the makefile are minimal. Adib.

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gtkmm .exe and Windows
by Hal Lorenz 05 Sep '05

05 Sep '05

Hi there, While not a strictly Inkscape-related question, Inkscape is one of the best gtkmm/c++ apps around (or at least I hope, as I noticed you started with gtk/c), so I thought you might be able to help. I'm experimenting with gtkmm and have the simplest program as outlined in the docs compiled as a Windows .exe, here's the code: #include <gtkmm.h> int main(int argc, char* argv[]) { Gtk::Main kit(argc, argv); Gtk::Window window; Gtk::Main::run(window); return 0; } My problem is that the resulting .exe opens the console Window along with the GUI, Inkscape doesn't do this, and I wondered how you achieved that. I know this list isn't for general Q&A, but if you have the time that'd be great, if not no worries. Kind regards, Hal

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Wrong Color ...
by Florian 05 Sep '05

05 Sep '05

Maybe i found a bug? Here is my SVG-File http://mindb.de/t/schatten-r.svg But if i render it as png i get this result: http://mindb.de/t/schatten.png As you can see (http://mindb.de/t/zoom.png) the bottom-shadow is darker thant the upper-shadow (and the right one darker than the left. Is this a bug?

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gtkmm .exe and Windows solved
by Hal Lorenz 05 Sep '05

05 Sep '05

Well it does seem I have a knack for asking obsolete questions, although I really was stuck with this problem and Google wasn't helping, it seems a fresh pair of eyes did the trick. The problem was that it was running in the console subsystem, as opposed to the GUI windows subsystem. Solved simply by adding the flag -mwindows to g++. Thanks for Inkscape anyway. ;) Kind regards, Hal

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] commit warning
by Kees Cook 05 Sep '05

05 Sep '05

On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 05:03:56PM +0200, Ralf Stephan wrote: > for this reorganization. However, some issues are unresolved at the > moment, and I'll pursue them ASAP: > - slideshow is probably broken > in spite of five days of testing, so don't hesitate to report. I suspect that "slideshow" being broken probably means that the About box is dead too. Is that right? I get the following crash when opening the Help->About box now: (inkscape:17201): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid uninstantiatable type `(null)' in cast to `GObject' (inkscape:17201): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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SOC Mentors - Review process
by Bryce Harrington 05 Sep '05

05 Sep '05

Ted, Jon, and Peter, Here is what you need to do to complete the Google Summer of Code project. Go to this URL: http://code.google.com/grants/survey-m.html It sounds like they'd like to get these all collected by the 5th. Please let me know when you've filled it out (so we can make sure all the students get accounted for). Thanks, Bryce

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Autorouting Connectors
by Michael Wybrow 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

Hello all, The Summer of Code has offically finished up. I've since caught up on some sleep and a few non-SoC things. I've also fixed up the obvious bugs, so this seems like a good time to announce what I actually achieved with the connector tool. Autorouting polyline connectors are in CVS and work well. However you manipulate them, they will avoid objects marked as 'avoided'. Objects can be marked as 'avoided' or 'ignored' via the connector context toolbar buttons. Tricky to explain, but easy to see and understand... just have to play with it. The following wiki page has instructions and further discussion: http://wiki.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UsingTheConnectorTool There are a couple of obvious problems: * Connectors are drawn to object's bounding boxes, rather than edges. I have a couple of ideas and some code to address this, so it shouldn't be too long till this is in the codebase. * Bounding boxes are used for the avoidance code, i.e., lines will route around a diamond as if it was a rectagle. The routing code deals with polygons so it's just a matter of me or someone else properly implementing the NR::ConvexHull class. There are plenty of other features I plan to add, some that have been requested by people already. Toolbar marker (arrow head) controls being one of these. See my TODO list on the wiki or in connector-context.cpp. Please have a look at the wiki page, and try out the connectors. Then add to the wiki page with ideas/problems or open bugs/RFEs. I've really enjoyed working on Inkscape the past two months, and as I said in an earlier mail, I feel like this time has got me over the initial hurdle of learning the codebase. I feel much better placed to comfortably contribute in the future. Basically, expect me to become a regular on the mailing list and Jabber. :-) Also, one of the things I've noticed as a result of the Summer of Code time is the real community aspect of the Inkscape project. It's a really open, welcoming community. I'd heard of students working for other projects who really didn't have much contact with their mentoring organisation, and were still waiting for accounts for CVS etc at the end of August. With Inkscape on the other hand, developers and users were always helpful and friendly. Just wanted to thank everyone for that! Cheers, Michael

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Tree changes for DOM stuff
by Bob Jamison 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

With the help of Bryce, I am planning on (finally) adding the DOM code to the tree, even though it's not done. This will give people a chance to look at it while it is in progress. Some changes to the tree were necessary: /src/ecma and /src/xpath are gone /src/dom is created /src/extension/script/js is moved to /src/dom I updated the win32 Makedep files, and the win32 build works nicely. It looks like configure.ac has no missing dependencies, so hopefully the unix build won't be broken. If anyone has any problems like this, check out the makefiles listed at the bottom of configure.ac. No, xpath and ecma are not gone. xpath is now part of DOM. Since Swig no longer supports JS, is behooves us to bind JS directly to DOM, hence the move there. Hopefully as we begin hooking things up, we can have some fun with this. Bob

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Gimp Conference 2006
by David Neary 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

Eat Frog's Legs and snails in garlic butter! Enjoy the refreshing taste of duck liver! Eat baked pig intestines (a local speciality)! Come to Lyon for the GIMP Conference, 2006! We're in the early stages of the planning - and now's the time to stand up & be counted. The GIMP conference, which may become a more general Free Graphics conference, if other people like the idea, will be held in CPE, Lyon, in March or April 2006. We have 4 possible weekends (Friday/Saturday/Sunday) available. The first is the weekend of St. Paddy's Day (the patron saint of Guinness), and David Odin's birthday - 17/18/19 March. The second is the weekend afterwards, when there's not much on - 24/25/26 March The third is the birthday of Dave Neary (me!), and April Fool's Day (think of the press release possibilities!) - 31 march/1/2 April. The last one - 7/8/9 April. We need to decide when the conference will be on soon, to reserve space in the university, get in contact with youth hostels, figure out what's going to happen, and work up some sponsorship. Once the dates are fixed, I'll send a follow-up announcement (if there are dates that are definitely out for you, let us know now). Everyone's welcome! Spread the word! Bring your dog! (But tie them on a leash outside) Bring your partner! (Lyon's lovely in March) We're looking forward to having you all. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary bolsh@...85... Lyon, France

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commit warning
by Ralf Stephan 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

hello, in case you're wondering, my recent commit moved SPDesktop from GObject to C++/sigc++. Fortunately, it was only necessary to touch about 80 files for this reorganization. However, some issues are unresolved at the moment, and I'll pursue them ASAP: - slideshow is probably broken - compiling inkboard was not tested, probably broken A crash on shutdown was removed in the last minute. There might be more, in spite of five days of testing, so don't hesitate to report. Regards, ralf

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Re: Inkscape still does not work on FC
by Artur Rataj 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

It's some un-upgradeable FC3 -- yum upgrade shows some missing openssh deps or something -- with glib updated manually to 2.0. With the previous glib, Inkscape would not compile. I'll try to recompile Inkscape on FC4, or replace that distro with another one. Linux linux 2.6.10-1.760_FC3 #1 Wed Feb 2 00:14:23 EST 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux The error was: *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x09fced60 *** Valgrind output: ==19138== Memcheck, a memory error detector. ==19138== Copyright (C) 2002-2005, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Seward et al. ==19138== Using LibVEX rev 1313, a library for dynamic binary translation. ==19138== Copyright (C) 2004-2005, and GNU GPL'd, by OpenWorks LLP. ==19138== Using valgrind-3.0.0, a dynamic binary instrumentation framework. ==19138== Copyright (C) 2000-2005, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Seward et al. ==19138== For more details, rerun with: -v ==19138== ==19138== Syscall param write(buf) points to uninitialised byte(s) ==19138== at 0x1C110353: __write_nocancel (in /lib/tls/libpthread-2.3.5.so) ==19138== by 0x1C27704F: (within /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2) ==19138== by 0x1C277312: _X11TransWrite (in /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2) ==19138== by 0x1C25B3F2: (within /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2) ==19138== by 0x1C25B47A: _XReply (in /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2) ==19138== by 0x1C2471B7: XInternAtom (in /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2) ==19138== by 0x1C26408C: XSetWMProperties (in /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2) ==19138== by 0x1BF8498D: (within /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.400.14) ==19138== by 0x1BF8795E: gdk_window_new (in /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.400.14) ==19138== by 0x1BF667CD: gdk_display_open (in /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.400.14) ==19138== by 0x1BF473DC: gdk_display_open_default_libgtk_only (in /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.400.14) ==19138== by 0x1BD893FE: gtk_init_check (in /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.400.14) ==19138== Address 0x1CBE4288 is 128 bytes inside a block of size 16384 alloc'd ==19138== at 0x1B901B47: calloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:279) ==19138== by 0x1C24B835: XOpenDisplay (in /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2) ==19138== by 0x1BF666B3: gdk_display_open (in /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.400.14) ==19138== by 0x1BF473DC: gdk_display_open_default_libgtk_only (in /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.400.14) ==19138== by 0x1BD893FE: gtk_init_check (in /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.400.14) ==19138== by 0x1BD89431: gtk_init (in /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.400.14) ==19138== by 0x1BA7A17C: Gtk::Main::init(int*, char***, bool) (main.cc:376) ==19138== by 0x1BA79E57: Gtk::Main::Main(int*, char***, bool) (main.cc:333) ==19138== by 0x8112CA2: sp_main_gui(int, char const**) (main.cpp:514) ==19138== by 0x81D21EB: Inkscape::NSApplication::Application::run() (application.cpp:134) ==19138== by 0x8112966: main (main.cpp:431) ==19138== ==19138== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s) ==19138== at 0x1C4B52E5: GC_push_all_eager (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B63EE: GC_push_current_stack (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4BD574: GC_generic_push_regs (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B6532: GC_push_roots (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B40B5: GC_mark_some (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD524: GC_stopped_mark (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD151: GC_try_to_collect_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B6EC9: GC_init_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2964: GC_generic_malloc_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2AC0: GC_generic_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2DB4: GC_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x8359A40: sp_repr_new(char const*) (gc-core.h:72) ==19138== ==19138== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s) ==19138== at 0x1C4B52EA: GC_push_all_eager (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B63EE: GC_push_current_stack (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4BD574: GC_generic_push_regs (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B6532: GC_push_roots (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B40B5: GC_mark_some (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD524: GC_stopped_mark (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD151: GC_try_to_collect_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B6EC9: GC_init_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2964: GC_generic_malloc_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2AC0: GC_generic_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2DB4: GC_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x8359A40: sp_repr_new(char const*) (gc-core.h:72) ==19138== ==19138== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s) ==19138== at 0x1C4B454E: GC_mark_from (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B41C8: GC_mark_some (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD524: GC_stopped_mark (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD151: GC_try_to_collect_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B6EC9: GC_init_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2964: GC_generic_malloc_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2AC0: GC_generic_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2DB4: GC_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x8359A40: sp_repr_new(char const*) (gc-core.h:72) ==19138== by 0x8356930: sp_repr_svg_read_node(_xmlNode*, char const*, _GHashTable*) (repr-io.cpp:454) ==19138== by 0x8357D6C: sp_repr_do_read(_xmlDoc*, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:364) ==19138== by 0x8357E0E: sp_repr_read_mem(char const*, int, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:288) ==19138== ==19138== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s) ==19138== at 0x1C4B4553: GC_mark_from (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B41C8: GC_mark_some (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD524: GC_stopped_mark (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD151: GC_try_to_collect_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B6EC9: GC_init_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2964: GC_generic_malloc_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2AC0: GC_generic_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2DB4: GC_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x8359A40: sp_repr_new(char const*) (gc-core.h:72) ==19138== by 0x8356930: sp_repr_svg_read_node(_xmlNode*, char const*, _GHashTable*) (repr-io.cpp:454) ==19138== by 0x8357D6C: sp_repr_do_read(_xmlDoc*, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:364) ==19138== by 0x8357E0E: sp_repr_read_mem(char const*, int, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:288) ==19138== ==19138== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s) ==19138== at 0x1C4B4568: GC_mark_from (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B41C8: GC_mark_some (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD524: GC_stopped_mark (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD151: GC_try_to_collect_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B6EC9: GC_init_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2964: GC_generic_malloc_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2AC0: GC_generic_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2DB4: GC_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x8359A40: sp_repr_new(char const*) (gc-core.h:72) ==19138== by 0x8356930: sp_repr_svg_read_node(_xmlNode*, char const*, _GHashTable*) (repr-io.cpp:454) ==19138== by 0x8357D6C: sp_repr_do_read(_xmlDoc*, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:364) ==19138== by 0x8357E0E: sp_repr_read_mem(char const*, int, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:288) ==19138== ==19138== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s) ==19138== at 0x1C4B456D: GC_mark_from (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B41C8: GC_mark_some (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD524: GC_stopped_mark (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD151: GC_try_to_collect_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B6EC9: GC_init_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2964: GC_generic_malloc_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2AC0: GC_generic_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2DB4: GC_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x8359A40: sp_repr_new(char const*) (gc-core.h:72) ==19138== by 0x8356930: sp_repr_svg_read_node(_xmlNode*, char const*, _GHashTable*) (repr-io.cpp:454) ==19138== by 0x8357D6C: sp_repr_do_read(_xmlDoc*, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:364) ==19138== by 0x8357E0E: sp_repr_read_mem(char const*, int, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:288) ==19138== ==19138== Invalid read of size 4 ==19138== at 0x1C4B4543: GC_mark_from (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B41C8: GC_mark_some (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD524: GC_stopped_mark (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD151: GC_try_to_collect_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B6EC9: GC_init_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2964: GC_generic_malloc_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2AC0: GC_generic_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2DB4: GC_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x8359A40: sp_repr_new(char const*) (gc-core.h:72) ==19138== by 0x8356930: sp_repr_svg_read_node(_xmlNode*, char const*, _GHashTable*) (repr-io.cpp:454) ==19138== by 0x8357D6C: sp_repr_do_read(_xmlDoc*, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:364) ==19138== by 0x8357E0E: sp_repr_read_mem(char const*, int, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:288) ==19138== Address 0x52C00030 is not stack'd, malloc'd or (recently) free'd ==19138== ==19138== Process terminating with default action of signal 11 (SIGSEGV) ==19138== Bad permissions for mapped region at address 0x52C00030 ==19138== at 0x1C4B4543: GC_mark_from (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B41C8: GC_mark_some (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD524: GC_stopped_mark (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4AD151: GC_try_to_collect_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B6EC9: GC_init_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2964: GC_generic_malloc_inner (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2AC0: GC_generic_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x1C4B2DB4: GC_malloc (in /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2) ==19138== by 0x8359A40: sp_repr_new(char const*) (gc-core.h:72) ==19138== by 0x8356930: sp_repr_svg_read_node(_xmlNode*, char const*, _GHashTable*) (repr-io.cpp:454) ==19138== by 0x8357D6C: sp_repr_do_read(_xmlDoc*, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:364) ==19138== by 0x8357E0E: sp_repr_read_mem(char const*, int, char const*) (repr-io.cpp:288) ==19138== ==19138== ERROR SUMMARY: 552 errors from 8 contexts (suppressed: 140 from 3) ==19138== malloc/free: in use at exit: 300190 bytes in 5874 blocks. ==19138== malloc/free: 7914 allocs, 2040 frees, 603035 bytes allocated. ==19138== For counts of detected errors, rerun with: -v ==19138== searching for pointers to 5874 not-freed blocks. ==19138== checked 2931004 bytes. ==19138== ==19138== LEAK SUMMARY: ==19138== definitely lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks. ==19138== possibly lost: 7136 bytes in 24 blocks. ==19138== still reachable: 293054 bytes in 5850 blocks. ==19138== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks. ==19138== Reachable blocks (those to which a pointer was found) are not shown. ==19138== To see them, rerun with: --show-reachable=yes On 8/28/05, Mike Hearn <mike@...869...> wrote: > On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:59:38 +0200, Artur Rataj wrote: > > Static binary 42.0 did not work, the latest sources 42.2 compiled but did > > not work. > > Do you mean the same error occurred? What version of Fedora is this and > did you upgrade from an earlier Fedora release? > > If you can run the program in valgrind that'd be good. > > thanks -mike > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >

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Interesting OS X tidbits
by Jon A. Cruz 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

Here are a few interesting tidbits that came up in the latest mailing I got from the Apple Developer Connection Technical Note TN2137 Building Universal Binaries from "configure"-based Open Source Projects http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2005/tn2137.html Adopting Universal Binaries on Mac OS X http://developer.apple.com/macosx/adoptinguniversalbinaries.html Working with Xcode: Building Applications for the Future http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/xcodefuture.html

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Exporting (was: Using Inkscape)
by Gavin Band 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

Hi Sorry, I split this topic off from the other one about zooming. Bulia Byak wrote: > Choosing export area is also bitmap-only. For vector export, we may > only select which _objects_ to export (though we don't currently have > code for this, always exporting the whole image), but not the export > area. That only makes sense for bitmaps. <snip> I see what you mean, but doesn't it also make sense to be able to export a region of the picture, or the whole picture, or the whole page, to postscript or encapsulated postscript? What if you want to print the bottom half of the picture, or send it somewhere else to be printed? You're right though - the current Export Bitmap pane is very easy to use (I hadn't noticed the selection-tracking behaviour, though on my machine it seems to get stuck on "Custom" and I have to click "Selection" again to make it update). So I suppose I'd like it to a) have a proper file browser (the same as the "Save as..." one) b) have a preview pane like you mentioned c) have a choice of file type. gav.

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CRASH: connector to node tool
by unknown＠example.com 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

In the lastest CVS. Create some rectangles. draw a connector between two and immediately switch to the node tool. creates the following output in gdb. Aaron Spike (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/local/inkscape/bin/inkscape [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread -1222482112 (LWP 12057)] ** ERROR **: file connector-context.cpp: line 247 (void sp_connector_context_dis pose(GObject*)): assertion failed: (cc->newConnRef == NULL) aborting... Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread -1222482112 (LWP 12057)] 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall () (gdb) bt #0 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall () #1 0xb7296175 in raise () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #2 0xb72977d8 in abort () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #3 0xbfffe320 in ?? () #4 0x00000000 in ?? () #5 0x00000020 in ?? () Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)

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Inkscape Build Report 20050903-0640
by Bryce Harrington 03 Sep '05

03 Sep '05

Most of the problems from the previous build report were fixed with the inkscape-20050830-1220 snapshot. = Analysis Report for inkscape = Platform Unpack Config Build Install WRNS ERRS ------------------------------------------------------------------------ debian x86 0 0 0 0 5 0 Test Status Score Info ------------------------------------------------------------------------ sut-1 ?? == Errors == none == Warnings == display/canvas-arena.cpp:91: warning: invalid access to non-static data member display/canvas-arena.cpp:91: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used display/sp-canvas.cpp:127: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` display/sp-canvas.cpp:127: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used libnrtype/Layout-TNG-Output.cpp:226: warning: enumeration value ` == Environment Summary ==

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Is it allowed to post Atachments?
by Florian 03 Sep '05

03 Sep '05

my first question... or is it better to upload the svg-file to my webspace greetings florian

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Inkscape Project Status Sept 1, 2005
by Bryce Harrington 02 Sep '05

02 Sep '05

Project Status September 1, 2005 Lots has happened over the past month, including a new 0.42 release, completion of the four Google Summer of Code projects, several really useful features including pressure sensitivity, enhanced node editing, and extensions, and some project infrastructure work, such as a new RSS feed at http://inkscape.org/inkscape.rss. We've seen a number of articles and mentions of Inkscape in various magazines and online news sites. We've just initiated a new Inkscape Tester community. This group is being organized to focus on testing of robustness, usability, performance, etc. This is just getting started, so if this sounds interesting its a great time to get involved. There is a mailing list (http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-tester) and a wiki page (http://wiki.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TestingInkscape) The Inkscape User community is considering starting up a monthly Logo competition, to generate high quality logos for open source projects that need them. If you'd like help with organizing or participating in this, please join us at the inkscape-user list. Tavmjog Bah announced a new, much more complete release of his Inkscape book, covering 90% of the user interface. http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/index.php Looking forward over the next month, we're planning on continuing development for a bit longer, then get a 0.43 release pushed out. We're hoping it can be delivered reasonably quickly, but we still have some more features to fold in. It sounds like the concensus is to do 100 points worth of RFE's, followed by 100 points of bug fixes, then a hard freeze, and a release. Statistics Jun 1 Jul 1 Aug 1 Sep 1 ========== ====== ====== ====== ====== Max Week's Rank on SourceForge: 38 35 3 23 Total SF Page Views 1,935,964 3,797,037 4,452,437 4,139,401 Total SF Downloads 254,647 283,789 378,712 448,994 Total Freshmeat URL Hits 19,149 19,809 21,261 22,422 Total Freshmeat Subscriptions 183 189 208 220 Lines of Code in src/: 374,180 376,319 389,945 404,800 Code lines 260,236 261,600 270,423 279,621 Comment line 67,136 67,724 70,478 73,904 Blank 53,443 53,651 55,698 57,937 Lines of Docs in doc/: 27,790 27,792 28,090 28,121 Lines of content in website: 42,490 42,700 44,483 44,732 Size of the Inkscape wiki: 26,729 28,525 34,890 34,847 Bugs open/total: 215/1223 196/1312 215/1445 250/1555 Features open/total: 453/ 728 471/ 767 440/816 466/ 874 Patches open/total: 11/ 230 10/ 268 8/325 6/ 332 CVS Commits (as per inkscape-cvs) 12,040 12,372 12,915 13,423 Inkscape-devel membership: 179 188 200 217 Inkscape-announce membership: 202 217 236 274 Inkscape-user membership: 248 258 276 295 Num Translations: 33 33 33 33 Ave Translation Ratio: 47.8 48.6 54.6 54.9 * - Statistics unavailable

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] 0.42.2 Announcement
by JAKOB ILVES 02 Sep '05

02 Sep '05

Hello! Any progress on getting the static rpm for inkscape 0.42.2 up on the downloads section? Right now only the static rpm for inskcape 0.42.0 is available, and that is the broken version and I'm looking forward to test the 0.42.2 version. Best regards IlvJa __________________________________________________ >From bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> Sent Fri 8/26/2005 7:21 AM To Ted Gould <ted@...11...> Cc Inkscape Devel List <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Subject Re: [Inkscape-devel] 0.42.2 Announcement __________________________________________________ On 8/26/05, Ted Gould <ted@...11... (mailto:ted@...11...)> wrote: > Now that there are binaries for 0.42.2 Still missing are autopackage and static rpm. I think we need at least one of these to make an announcement. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org (http://www.inkscape.org) ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf (http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf) _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net (mailto:Inkscape-devel@...142...ge.net) https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel (https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel)

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dxf dev?
by Jon Phillips 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

How is the dxf Summer of Code developing? I haven't heard much about how this is progressing? When is the summer of code up anyhow? Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org)

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Linux Journal
by Carl Hetherington 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

Hi all, Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but Inkscape has won the 2005 Linux Journal Editors' Choice award: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8293 Well done everybody! Carl

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python for windows
by bulia byak 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

I'd like to revisit the issue of shipping Windows package with their own Python/PyXML. By now I use Aaron's python extensions all the time, they are immensely useful. Not as convenient as native solutions would be, but still a lot of fun and an important part of my design work. The current instructions page for Windows: http://wiki.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GettingEffectsWorking/Windows is way too scary for an average user. Python alone might be OK, but PyXML on top of that is certainly too much. I think very few dedicated users would venture into this. So, what do you think about including a minimum Python/PyXML into the Windows installer and enabling extensions by default? I think the file size increase won't be intolerably big. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Clipart] Re: [Inkscape-devel] releasing Clip Art Browser 0.4!!
by Nicu Buculei 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

Tobias Jakobs wrote: > >>Inkscape and OCAL folk, do you think we should host this as an Inkscape >>project, or an OCAL project, or open up a separate project for this? I'm >>tempted to open a new separate project for this browser, as it is very >>useful to OSS in general, yet, if we move the codebase too far away, >>will the locus of attention be too far outside of our combined >>developers? >> >>** PLEASE give some feedback on what I jus proposed soon!!!! ** >> > > > I would say, its more OCAL than Inkscape related and I would like to see > it in AbiWord, Gnumerik, Gimp, ... integrated too. It would be nice to have it in all those apps, but we also need it on all platforms where Inkscape run, so we can close RFEs like this (for an object palette): https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=604309&aid=1262745&group_… -- nicu

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] CVS for dxf import
by Matt Squires 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] CVS for dxf import From: "Matt Squires" <matthew.squires@...854...> Date: Wed, August 31, 2005 3:16 pm To: "John Taber" <jtaber@...480...> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The readme has links to the dxf files that I have been using. I have a copy of AutoCAD at school, and use CadStd Lite at home. But CadStd lite doesn't implement many features for that reason I am using the files that I know exist and those are at Thorlabs and Newfocus. here are the links to the two images on the web site. The first has two elements that import incorrecty on the left hand side. I will try to get to that in the next few days. http://newfocus.com/images/mechanicaldrawings/edxf/9807e.dxf http://newfocus.com/images/mechanicaldrawings/edxf/9051e.dxf Thorlabs uses solid and trace a lot for their drawings. I haven't supported those yet, so the drawings look a little funny. I currently don't support dimensions so that also looks funny. AutoCAD sometimes complains that their dxf is bad. http://www.thorlabs.com/thorcat/1700/1708-E0W.dxf http://www.thorlabs.com/thorcat/8500/8577-E0W.dxf Later tonight I will put all the sample files that I used for initial work in the dxf2svg folder, and will build a test file with AutoCAD that will have most of the commonly used elements in dxf. I have other comments...see notes below > Later - You should first post the examples that you have tested with, so far we have seen none, just an assurance or screenshot that it all works - it is or should be your job to show the code works before we spend our time checking it, you're the one being sponsored . And besides, you I have tested with files of my own creation and from two separate commercial companies. I also used the demo file from QCad, and it imported great. I used commercial CAD drawing to get real drawings that are used in the real world. I don't spend all my time looking for new test files. I have 6-10 files from 4 different sources. Call it 15 files and 5 sources if you count the files from Eric. I have spent my time trying to get the features to work in the files. > know it is pretty basic PhD 101 to show(prove) that your methodology works. You should be treating this the same as any other research project. In all research projects I have been involved in it is only the most proprietary researchers that withhold information from others. My research group directly competes with a group in Germany, but I have never had a question not answered or information withheld from them, even for the stupid questions. > > Matt Squires wrote: >> I just did a test using dxf versions R12, 2000, and 2004 and it loaded with out hanging. It used circles, plines with arcs, arcs, lines, and text. It was created using AutoCAD 2004. >> >> If you can be more specific as to what was in the file I will try to fix the problem. Most of the segfaults in the code from last Saturday came from blank lines in the dxf files, that has been completely fixed. I assume you are refering to the file Eric tested. Did you also have a file >> that segfaulted? If so, please send it to me. I can handle large attachments. >> >> Matt >> >> >>>The dxf2svg code still does not work for simple R12 dxf drawings (it goes into an indeterminate loop and every 3 minutes outputs the same "translate..." line) - OpenOffice Draw code handles the same translation perfectly in a microsecond. The first code submission (just last Saturday), completely segfaulted. I don't think we should be the ones having to test for such basic operation. Personally I think this project still needs a lot of work to be finished and useful. >>> >>>Bryce Harrington wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 10:08:51AM -0600, Matt Squires wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Bryce, >>>>> >>>>>The dxf2svg part is coming along. I have gotten it to work in >>>>> Inkscape >>>>>with an .inx file. I would like to add it to the Inkscape CVS tree under >>>>>share or extensions. Can I get CVS access and some guidence where to put >>>>>code that is not directly part of the Inkscape code base but an extension? >>>>> >>>>>I think there is a simple way to add dxf export using pstoedit. I >>>>> don't >>>>>know if anyone has tried it before, but I was able to do some simple conversions. Again the only change would be .inx files. >>>>> >>>>>My SF id is squires >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi Matt, >>>> >>>>Thanks for posting the request; I've enabled your SF CVS access. >>>> >>>>Bryce >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>>SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices >>>>Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA >>>>Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * >>>>http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Inkscape-devel mailing list >>>>Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >

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Build report for inkscape-20050830-0240
by Bryce Harrington 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

The Inkscape automatic tarball packages have been broken for a few days. It looks like there is some sort of cvs merge issue going on. Could someone check to see if the process that generates the tarballs is working correctly? I'm guessing that cvs got confused and has borked the tarballs up. Here is the latest build report: = Analysis Report for inkscape = Platform Unpack Config Build Install WRNS ERRS ------------------------------------------------------------------------ debian x86 0 0 2 5 28 Test Status Score Info ------------------------------------------------------------------------ sut-1 ?? == Errors == attributes.cpp:34: error: syntax error before `<<' token attributes.cpp:37: error: syntax error before `>>' token connector-context.cpp:1195: error: syntax error before `<<' token connector-context.cpp:1199: error: syntax error before `if' connector-context.cpp:1199: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `__r' with no connector-context.cpp:1199: error: redefinition of `int __r' connector-context.cpp:1199: error: `gboolean __r' previously declared here connector-context.cpp:1199: error: syntax error before `}' token connector-context.cpp:1212: error: `inkscape_active_desktop' undeclared (first connector-context.cpp:1212: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only connector-context.cpp:1230: error: `cc_item_is_shape' undeclared (first use connector-context.cpp:1249: error: syntax error before `>>' token connector-context.cpp:1256: error: `selection' was not declared in this scope connector-context.cpp:1258: error: syntax error before `if' connector-context.cpp:1269: error: redefinition of `GType __t' connector-context.cpp:1199: error: `GType __t' previously declared here connector-context.cpp:1269: error: redefinition of `gboolean __r' connector-context.cpp:1199: error: `int __r' previously declared here connector-context.cpp:1269: error: syntax error before `if' connector-context.cpp:1269: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `__r' with no connector-context.cpp:1269: error: redefinition of `int __r' connector-context.cpp:1269: error: `gboolean __r' previously declared here connector-context.cpp:1269: error: syntax error before `}' token connector-context.cpp:97: error: `void sp-item.cpp:324: error: syntax error before `<<' token widgets/toolbox.cpp:2993: error: `cc_selection_set_avoid' undeclared (first use widgets/toolbox.cpp:2993: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only widgets/toolbox.cpp:2999: error: `cc_selection_set_avoid' undeclared (first use == Warnings == display/canvas-arena.cpp:91: warning: invalid access to non-static data member display/canvas-arena.cpp:91: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used display/sp-canvas.cpp:127: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` display/sp-canvas.cpp:127: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used libnrtype/Layout-TNG-Output.cpp:226: warning: enumeration value ` == Environment Summary == Bryce

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Locale settings on windows
by Jon A. Cruz 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

There have been a few issues now and then with gettext and friends on Win32. A few related tracker items are [ 1250581 ] WIN32: Inkscape uses locale settings for determining UI lang [ 1246076 ] Mixed languages in UI [ 1246463 ] Language Selection Option / Menu Entry After talking with Peter some last night, it was bubbling around in my brain, and kicked out a work-around. This will need to be tested/refined, but the basic approach could be to hook into things right at program startup (over in the Win32 bits). At that point we could check if LANG and/or the other POSIX environment variables were set. If not, we could then just query the Win32 NLS calls and then build up and set LANG and LC_* properly. Some preferences could be set to affect this, and perhaps override it with explicit user values/choices. The details need to be hammered out, but I think this is a good work- around to allow us to get a better user experience on Win32 without having to get libc changed, etc. I wanted to toss this out in case others were still pondering things today.

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Google Summer of Code projects
by Bryce Harrington 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Hi all, The Google Summer of Code projects are due to wrap up by September 1st. We've been quite thrilled at the progress made from the SOC students, but as they say, all things must come to an end. We've not received direction from Google about the next steps, which is kind of weird... I have expected we'd see some directions by now. Possibly we'll hear something tomorrow? In any case, based on what we've been told in the past, we expect that we're going to need to go through a review phase where the mentors check the student's work and decide whether it is acceptable. I think each mentor will have his own set of criteria to judge from, but there are some expectations that I suspect will be weighed heavily on: * Has the code been checked into Inkscape CVS? * Does the code function well enough that people can at least test it out? * Has the developer participated with other inkscape developers to ensure that bugs are fixed, requested changes made, etc.? * If the developer has "bitten off too much to chew", have they triaged the requirements and implemented an adequate subset? Of course, if the code implements 100% of what was mentioned in the original proposal, that's even better. ;-) But as long as it meets most of the requirements and shows that the participant has been successful at learning Open Source, I would think it would be acceptable. Bryce

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build report /inkscape-20050829-2120
by Bryce Harrington 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

= Analysis Report for inkscape = Platform Unpack Config Install WRNS ERRS ------------------------------------------------------------------------ debian x86 0 0 2 5 28 Test Status Score Info ------------------------------------------------------------------------ sut-1 ?? == Errors == attributes.cpp:34: error: syntax error before `<<' token attributes.cpp:37: error: syntax error before `>>' token connector-context.cpp:1195: error: syntax error before `<<' token connector-context.cpp:1199: error: syntax error before `if' connector-context.cpp:1199: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `__r' with no connector-context.cpp:1199: error: redefinition of `int __r' connector-context.cpp:1199: error: `gboolean __r' previously declared here connector-context.cpp:1199: error: syntax error before `}' token connector-context.cpp:1212: error: `inkscape_active_desktop' undeclared (first connector-context.cpp:1212: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only connector-context.cpp:1230: error: `cc_item_is_shape' undeclared (first use connector-context.cpp:1249: error: syntax error before `>>' token connector-context.cpp:1256: error: `selection' was not declared in this scope connector-context.cpp:1258: error: syntax error before `if' connector-context.cpp:1269: error: redefinition of `GType __t' connector-context.cpp:1199: error: `GType __t' previously declared here connector-context.cpp:1269: error: redefinition of `gboolean __r' connector-context.cpp:1199: error: `int __r' previously declared here connector-context.cpp:1269: error: syntax error before `if' connector-context.cpp:1269: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `__r' with no connector-context.cpp:1269: error: redefinition of `int __r' connector-context.cpp:1269: error: `gboolean __r' previously declared here connector-context.cpp:1269: error: syntax error before `}' token connector-context.cpp:97: error: `void sp-item.cpp:324: error: syntax error before `<<' token widgets/toolbox.cpp:2993: error: `cc_selection_set_avoid' undeclared (first use widgets/toolbox.cpp:2993: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only widgets/toolbox.cpp:2999: error: `cc_selection_set_avoid' undeclared (first use == Warnings == display/canvas-arena.cpp:91: warning: invalid access to non-static data member display/canvas-arena.cpp:91: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used display/sp-canvas.cpp:127: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` display/sp-canvas.cpp:127: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used libnrtype/Layout-TNG-Output.cpp:226: warning: enumeration value ` == Environment Summary ==

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] DXF export
by Matt Squires 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

DXF export is now possible... At my website (http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~squiresm/), that hopefully will not be needed much more, I have posted .inx and .sh files that will export to dxf using pstoedit. I found that dxf is already supported, there are a fair number of features that I haven't explored. The conversion seems to be ok. I also have more functionality in the dxf import. Layers are supported and I have turned linetypes back on. The linetype is a little buggy because it is defined in two places and I have tried to make a good decision about which definition takes precedence. I also fixed problems with bulges in plines and lwplines. The files are there for color conversion, but I haven't included the color yet in the SVG. I am open to people sending me their favorite dxf and then I test it against AutoCAD (there is a license at school) or if you test a file and you don't see what you want then let me know. Eric: Along those lines... you are right the projection of a tilted circle on a plane below should look elliptical. I will fix that sometime later. Matt > Generally, our policy is to provide at least one patch, and if good, > then we give you cvs...it is our primary policy. I will get a patch tomorrow when I have better facilities

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please test: svgslice as an extension
by Lee Braiden 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Hi all, Now that 0.42 is done, I thought I'd send the extension version of svgslice for others to test and consider for inclusion. It's pretty basic: just saves marked sections of the image into separate PNG "slices", and generates a basic XHTML file that lists the slices. Most notably, no equivalent layout is done in the XHTML file, so that it looks like the original SVG drawing. Problem is, there are many ways to do that in CSS, and the most obvious way (absolute positioning) is probably not much use to people. I suspect it would lead to bad web pages, or just get in the way of proper hand-crafted layout, and people who want to use a WYSIWYG CSS editor to move them around easily can still do so. Note also, that the slices will be saved in Inkscape's current directory. If you load inkscape by double-clicking on an image in a project folder, and save the XHTML file in the same folder, then this is fine -- your startup directory will be that folder, and images will be right alongside the XHTML file. But if you start inkscape from your home directory on the command line, or from just running it via a menu entry, and then load and save a file in another location, the PNG slices will end up in your home directory (at least on unix; windows might save then in C: or "C:\Program Files\Inkscape", or something like that. At the moment, there's nothing I can do about that, since inkscape doesn't CD to the output directory before calling the extension, and doesn't seem to provide the extension with any idea of where it is actually saving stuff. Personally, I'd like to see that issue fixed for 0.43. But either way, it'll be good to hear if this works for others, if there are any bugs, etc. So please give it a test, and let me know :) Installation ============ Save both attached files in your inkscape extensions directory. If that directory is somewhere other than /usr/share/inkscape/extensions, then you'll need to edit the paths in svgslice.inx to reflect that. Obviously, this will have a different path on Windows. Maybe someone could edit the svgslice.inx file, and post it here for other windows users? Usage ===== * Draw something. * Create a layer called "slices". * Draw rectangles in this layer representing the areas you want to slice (note: it helps if you make the rectangles semi-transparent) * Optionally, name any/all slices by using the built-in XML editor to edit the "id" attributes of the rectangles. * Hide the slices layer. * Choose "Save as..." from the File menu. * Select "XHTML file with PNG slices" as the file type to use. * Enter a filename (e.g., "test.xhtml"), and save. Result ====== * You should have the test.xhtml file on your disk, alongside the PNG slices for each area of the drawing that you made a rectangle for. -- Lee Braiden http://www.DigitalUnleashed.com

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Follow up with Nuno
by Dan Ostrowski 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Follow up with Nuno Pinheiro: > Im using 0.42, but i did not figured the correct way to use the > swatches, i can see them, but i cant "paste" a color in a gradient, > and also i don't know how to make a swatch, (but i can obviously > learn), and the feature im requesting is also useful for a lot of > other things, (such as creating a perfect gradient from one solid > object to an other solid object, setind qa color for an outline and > more.) regards, dan o

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releasing Clip Art Browser 0.4!!
by Greg Steffensen 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

Hey all, I'm releasing version 0.4 of the Clip Art Browser. This, of course, is the release of the browser thats meant to be the final product for the purposes of Google's Summer of Code. Grab it from http://download.berlios.de/ocalhelper/clipartbrowser-0.4.tar.gz Hopefully, installation is even simpler now. The indexing process for local clip art, which could be a bit confusing, has been integrated into the GUI, so that now, you really only have to extract and run. The README has been updated, but if you have trouble getting it to work, let me know. Ironically, the one feature that no longer works is, uh, working as an Inkscape extension. That should be very simple to do... it just need to figure out how to have the executable that Inkscape calls launch the browser as a separate process, but this has been surprisingly tricky in python. If people would like to put this in 0.43, I can get this fixed tonight if needed, but I assumed that it probbaly wouldn't be. I also figured that the effects menu isn't really the appropriate place for something like this, and we'd have to semi-hardcode it into some other menu later anyway (I think Jon mentioned something about this earlier). This isn't a final product, of course. I look forward to continuing to improve it, and hopefully getting more into the code of Inkscape proper over the coming months. Thanks to all the developers who provided feedback, and Bryce and Jon in particular. Also, java sucks. Greg

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inkscape:connector-avoid vs inkscape:avoid
by Peter Moulder 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

Some places in inkscape use inkscape:connector-avoid (attributes-test.cpp, and the spelling of SP_ATTR_CONNECTOR_AVOID), and some places use inkscape:avoid (sp_object_read_attr and sp_object_setAttribute). I think I prefer inkscape:connector-avoid. Or is it intended for the same attribute to be used for removing node-node overlaps? (Whether as a once-off operation, e.g. using Tim Dwyer's implementation, or the dynamic linear approximation stuff that njh & I did for UIST last year.) If so, then I'd go for inkscape:avoid, and change the enum to SP_ATTR_INKSCAPE_AVOID. pjrm.

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