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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Some fairly random feature reqs + bug reports.
by bulia byak 13 Feb '04

13 Feb '04

>>>What happened in the Fill/stroke dialog? the entry >>>boxs for RGB values on the wheel tab are gone >> >> >>That's temporary, we plan to restore them, although not RGB - the wheel is >>HSV and it will have HSV fields, if you need RGB switch to the RGB >>sliders. > >Well, that I'm not sure of. Jon, I do not mean restore the old system picker, but to add HSV fields to your new picker, right above the alpha spinbutton. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Some fairly random feature reqs + bug reports.
by bulia byak 13 Feb '04

13 Feb '04

Thanks for the feedback! > First, if I've got a new session of inkscape, and i >do file>open, why does it open it into a new window >rather than the blank one I've got in front of me? >every time it does it it strikes me as odd. Yes, it's in the plans. Maybe next version. > Second up, have you considered making use of the >boolean ops to add paintbrush/eraser tools ala flash? >the functionality is all there just spread across >several tools currently. The way I've been simulating >it currently is to use the calligraphy tool to 'paint' >an area, then whenever you paint additional >areas immediately switch to select and ctrl++ it to >the last section. Not sure about usefulness of this. The vector approach is to keep things separate and at a high level of abstraction for as long as possible, and only merge/flatten/convert to paths as the last stage if possible. So if I need this functionality, I would actually prefer to have shapes separate to I can move and adjust them, and do a union or difference on them if necessary (but I think in many cases, just grouping them together would be convenient enough). On the other hand, what you propose may be simple enough to implement, but we need to do a paint tool with user-definable strokes first, otherwise the booleans are of little use IMHO. > Another feature that I'd love to see would be >variable offsets, ie a dynamic offset with >node weighting allowing the offset to be modified at >each node so I could generate a line of varying >thickness (like the calligraphy tool) but still >editable by the basic centreline path. This would be a >godsend for doing comic style drawings where the line >weight is important. I know that ones a big task, just >putting the idea out there. Yes, useful, but perhaps more uesful in the short term and easier to implement is a variable-width stroke with some predefined shapes. I think our developers had some prototypes of this. > With regards to the 0.37 release, the builds i >downloaded from Bobs site (which is really useful, >both for builds and build instructions, cheers Bob) >seemed to have problems with the keyboard shortcuts >being messed up, the dialog ones were all muddled, >(for instance Ctrl+Shift+M was opening fill/stroke) >just checked the latest one there and its still the >case.(zip file Inkscape0402120319.zip) Very strange. Anyone else experiencing this? >What happened in the Fill/stroke dialog? the entry >boxs for RGB values on the wheel tab are gone That's temporary, we plan to restore them, although not RGB - the wheel is HSV and it will have HSV fields, if you need RGB switch to the RGB sliders. >as is >the dropper icon, both of which were really useful. Dropper on the dialog is redundant, you can use the dropper tool >(its a pain having to switch tool to do a dropper >action, What's the problem with the dropper? We discussed moving the dropper to the dialog and removing the tool, but then decided that the dropper will be very useful without the dialog, when we have a current color indicator and a palette. >btw, anyone got any suggestions as to the best place >to get started with getting familiar with the code? Read developer's howtos on Wiki - there's quite a lot of info there, although it's unorganized. Then look into the code and try to find what seems easiest - I don't know what it may be for you :) I started with adding new keyboard shortcuts, that was easy and fun, and gradually learned many parts of the codebase from there. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] openoffice fileformat
by bulia byak 13 Feb '04

13 Feb '04

Johan, >I've tested libinkjar and it can read openoffice fileformats now. >I'd like to know if I can hook this up and move it to cvs HEAD. Could you please add a paragraph describing what you did to http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ReleaseNotes _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Some fairly random feature reqs + bug reports.
by bulia byak 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

>fair enough, however its a tool that flash users have >got used to, and is a good way of generating and >manipulating complex shapes in vector form without the >user needing to worry about bezier handles, adding >nodes etc. If you can use paint you can use that tool. You're right, this might be useful, after we have a "hose" tool that will draw by spitting out shapes. Could you please add a RFE to the tracker? >see >http://members.lycos.co.uk/simarilius/weirdness.jpg I'm stunned. How can this happen - anyone having any ideas? Mental, what do you think? > > HSV and it will have HSV fields, if you need RGB > > switch to the RGB sliders. > > > >they dont allow for 0-255 values like most art >programs tho, which is what was nice about the wheel >tab, it had commonality with a lot of other art >programs. I think you're right, we should switch all sliders on all color picker tabs from 0.00..1.00 to 0..255 (integer). It's more useful and gives more precision anyway. However, we must leave the possibility to use the old format as well, by typing e.g. "50%" or "0.5" which, after you press Enter, becomes 127. Again, could you please add an RFE? (Or if you wanted to try contributing, here's a nice little project for you to start :) >selecting the dropper tool switches you out of the >current context, hence you have to swap back. The one >in the wheel panel doesnt, it drops straight back to >whatever you were doing before, which is easier, and >less disruptive to the workflow. Anyway, i go into the >fill dialog to pick a color, isnt it logical to be >able to access the tool to do that from in there? Perhaps you are right, and we'll need to rethink the dropper role and position. I'd say let's do the more urgent color stuff first, which in my opition is a palette and a current color indicator, and then the perfect place of the dropper will be easier to find. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Strange bug in Windows build?
by bulia byak 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

>). But you'll probably see it in the attached svg file that there are >freakish numbers showing... This used to be a small default values star... >:( Thanks, that helps. It would be even better if you could send a couple of "before" and "after" files that are only different by the offending convert to path operation, so we could see exactly what points were displaced and what were not. Please use a simplest possible shape for this (ellipse or square, not star). Being unable to reproduce, I cannot guarantee fixing this, but that would still be helpful. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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About
by Daniel Díaz 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

I forgot to mention it again: The About Inkscape window is still showing "Frederico Mena", but it should read "Federico Mena-Quintero" (note only one R in Federico). Oh, by the way, when I right click in text written in the canvas, why should I care more about the Item Properties than Text and Font? I think it should be included in there. Greetings! Daniel Díaz yosoy@...31...

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Fedora-1 rpms on sourceforge
by Peter Linnell 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

Hi all, Just a quick note to let yet know the Fedora-1 rpms are in the queue for loading on sourceforge. Peter aka mrdocs

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Some fairly random feature reqs + bug reports.
by John Cliff 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

Hello all, been playing with both sodipodi and inkscape for a few weeks and have finally got round to looking at the source code. Have a couple of suggestions for features / usability issues. First, if I've got a new session of inkscape, and i do file>open, why does it open it into a new window rather than the blank one I've got in front of me? every time it does it it strikes me as odd. Second up, have you considered making use of the boolean ops to add paintbrush/eraser tools ala flash? the functionality is all there just spread across several tools currently. The way I've been simulating it currently is to use the calligraphy tool to 'paint' an area, then whenever you paint additional areas immediately switch to select and ctrl++ it to the last section. To use it as an eraser just paint over the bits you want to delete and do a subtract. What would be good would be if there was a tool that would automatically do the boolean to the current selection. (and possibly a simplify as well.) It could do with having constant stroke width rather than the calligriphic stuff tho, preferably of selectable width from the secondary toolbar, but still with the realtime preview of whats being drawn. I'd love to be able to try this myself, but am struggling even getting the codebase to compile atm, didnt help that the tar was lacking the mingw makefiles. Am a delphi person normally and havent touched C/C++ since uni, so am more than a little rusty. :) Another feature that I'd love to see would be variable offsets, ie a dynamic offset with node weighting allowing the offset to be modified at each node so I could generate a line of varying thickness (like the calligraphy tool) but still editable by the basic centreline path. This would be a godsend for doing comic style drawings where the line weight is important. I know that ones a big task, just putting the idea out there. With regards to the 0.37 release, the builds i downloaded from Bobs site (which is really useful, both for builds and build instructions, cheers Bob) seemed to have problems with the keyboard shortcuts being messed up, the dialog ones were all muddled, (for instance Ctrl+Shift+M was opening fill/stroke) just checked the latest one there and its still the case.(zip file Inkscape0402120319.zip) What happened in the Fill/stroke dialog? the entry boxs for RGB values on the wheel tab are gone as is the dropper icon, both of which were really useful. (its a pain having to switch tool to do a dropper action, and a lot of apps give their colors in RGB, so being able to enter the values from somewhere else was good.) It is a better size now, but that tab still has a fair bit of grey space in it which could be used. Also on the this build the icons are red crosses on the tabs and join&cap selectors in that dialog. Really good work on the tutorial btw, is really helpful, and looks great. On the website the mailing lists page doesnt link to the user list archive, which would be good. sorry to hit you with so much stuff at once, just been looking at it in increasing detail the last few days. keep up the good work John Cliff btw, anyone got any suggestions as to the best place to get started with getting familiar with the code? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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Inkscape 0.37 RPMS
by Bryce Harrington 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

I've uploaded i386 and i686 versions of the Mandrake RPM I mentioned yesterday. They're available from the Inkscape SourceForge download page (go to http://www.inkscape.org/ and click Download). The feedback I've received is that there may be some dependency issues, which I'm working on currently. I would appreciate additional feedback though, as that might help clarify what changes are needed. Bryce

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N/A
by jon 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

I propose that we should put our OFFICIAL RELEASE off till SUNDAY NIGHT/MONDAY MORNING, so that we avoid any crossover with SODIPODI. This won't hold up any development, but will help us further differentiate ourselves from SODI's release today. It really doesn't matter who comes out with what first, but really how the program works and how well user's like it. Do you all agree with this delay in publishing the announcement? It won't hold up development at all, but just delay PR. Also, I wonder if we should have a look at the SODIPODI codebase and co-opt any new code that might be valuable. I think competition is very good for both projects, honestly, but is something to wrestle with in terms of release dates. Jon

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