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Re: [Inkscape-devel] questions
by bulia byak 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

> > Mine is 3.3.1. Do you think it's worth the trouble to protect 3.3.1 >users > > from this crash (which is admittedly rare, you'll need to scale a text > > string to microscopic sizes to get it)? > >Can you upgrade to 3.3.2 and try to replicate the bug, so we can rule >out factors other than the compiler? Just upgraded to 3.3.2 - alas, the bug is still there. What else can be done, aside from the "magic fix"? Here's my g++ -v: Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.3.2/specs Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --with-slibdir=/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --disable-checking --enable-long-long --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-languages=c,c++,ada,f77,objc,java,pascal --host=i586-mandrake-linux-gnu --with-system-zlib Thread model: posix gcc version 3.3.2 (Mandrake Linux 10.0 3.3.2-3mdk) _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: dnd [was: Re: export patches]
by bulia byak 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

>On Mo, Dez 22, 2003 at 09:15:50 +0000, bulia byak wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I tested your dnd patch but I don't seem to be able to make it work. If >I > > type in some SVG in your test program and drag it into inkscape, no >object > > appears on the canvas, but there is a new empty <g> in the XML editor. >If I > > type <text>abc</text>, after dragging it becomed <g id="123">abc</g>. > >Try typing/pasting a whole svg document, that's what The Gimp will send, >when their path dnd support is ready :) Still does not work. Now the problem is namespaces. If I drag a document containing one <rect>, it appears as <svg:rect> within inkscape and is not displayed. (Even though in original SVG, there was no prefix.) This is because internally inkscape, simplistically, stores names with prefixes, so a mismatch in a prefix makes an element unrecognizable. I'm not sure what is the best/simplest to fix this: make it so that dragged SVG is inserted without namespace prefixes, or make it so that Inkscape can handle full qualified names (with namespace URI and prefix for each name). I guess the first way is simpler. Mental, can you comment? _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] patch to add point class to libnr
by bulia byak 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

Nathan, recently I added a few small functions to nodepath.cpp that I needed for various path operations. They do things like finding the point closest to a given point on a given line (the line is assumed to go through the coordinate center and thus is given only by its tangent), distance from point to line, as well as converting from x/y coordinates to radial and back. I realize that these functions probably belong in a different file, and maybe even in your point class (or maybe they are already implemented somewhere, although I could not find them). However I do not know much of C++ and thus cannot move them there by myself. If you could do that it would be nice, and reading your converted code might be my first tutorial in C++ :) _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Proposal for New Subsystem Architecture(andNamespaces)
by bulia byak 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

>My algorithm does text in shapes properly. In every other way the two are >equivalent (although not the same). TeX also provides Glue, which is easy >to add, but I never needed it for my work. It should go into inkscape, >however. I think mine is easier to understand in any case. I've put it in >experimental/njh/dyn-text/ Just make it. run ./dyn-text. I also don't see if it can do hyphenation. Can it? In any case, it would be fantastic to get this into Inkscape. But I foresee a lot of work with the UI. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] [Fwd: Re: [Sodipodi-list] How do people use Sodipodi?]
by bulia byak 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

>I like the idea of making the text stuff more immediate. Of course, most text controls will be in the secondary toolbar at the top, when I (or anyone else, volunteers welcome) have time to put it there. It was discussed and put on the Wiki long ago. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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[Fwd: Re: [Sodipodi-list] How do people use Sodipodi?]
by Nathan Hurst 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

I like the idea of making the text stuff more immediate. njh

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Coding conventions
by unknown＠example.com 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

Greetings, So, what sort of coding conventions do people want to adopt? I'm not really a C++ coder so I wont offer up too many suggestions, but I do intend on doing what I can to 'help' developers follow the decided upon conventions by creating Emacs and Vim modelines for the source files...unless someone has a good argument against doing that. At any rate, the only thing that I think is important is 'no tabs'...anyone care to suggest/discuss/argue-without-starting-a-war other conventions (this would include filename schemes for C++ as mentioned in the booleans thread)? *g* -Tom

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PathEstimation
by Info Sylvax 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

hello, as a graphic designer, I am used to work with Adobe Illustrator and the PathEstimation features built in are very important for me. but I work under Linux now... When will the PathEstimation feature be available in Inkscape? For me, it is the most important feature (for the design of logotypes, arabesques... ) thanks a lot, sylvain

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] PathEstimation
by bulia byak 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

>When will the PathEstimation feature be available in Inkscape? For me, it >is the most important feature (for the design of logotypes, arabesques... ) It might help if you explained what does it do exactly. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] spiral???
by bulia byak 22 Dec '03

22 Dec '03

>The argument was made on Jabber that this was a pretty useless tool. We >couldn't recall instances that it had been used or heard from users that >were using it for anything more than curiousity. It probably would have >been good to mention this on the mailing list before removing the >feature; I suppose the thinking was that probably nobody cared one way >or the other. It is very strange reasoning!!! I STRONGLY DISAGREE. Sorry guys but we represent a very small share of the program's users, and even smaller of its potential users, both quantitatively (in number) and qualitatively (in not being professional designers). We should not take any serious feature decisions without as wide discussion as possible, and especially when we REMOVE something. Jabber is fine for quickly discussing small things, but this is a serious change which requires a balanced, slow, thorough discission. Jabber is not suited for this kind of discussions. Lauris did not invent this tool too; he copied it from other vector editors. Why do you think you better understand the needs of artists than, for example, creators of Macromedia Freehand (among others) which has the spiral tool??? >Does anyone use the spiral shape for anything? Hell YES, if only to amuse my 5 y.o. daughter! She will be BITTERLY disappointer by your decision. And seriously, I once spent an hour in Xara drawing a spiral by hand for one of my designs (Xara does not have a spiral tool), and it turned out to be so difficult that I quit, launched Freehand, created a spiral there, exported into EPS and then imported into Xara. So for me, the Inkscape's spiral tool is one of its very real advantages over Xara. I even mentioned it as such just a couple days ago to my wife, when she asked what was that new drawing tool I'm spending my time with recently! Even all that aside, how do you feel killing a feature which has almost 1000 lines of code, is well thought out, complete and convenient? There's simply no limitations to the kinds of spirals it can create - don't you appreciate that? Yes it has a bug, but show me a tool which has none! Were you seriously planning to add to the release notes, for example, "Answering many requests from impatient users, we finally managed to remove one the biggest Sodipodi's annoyances, the spiral tool?" Come on! It's just beyond me what kind of reasoning might lead to a decision like that. >Perhaps since we're not too crowded for space yet, and since the bug now >has a solution, that it would be prudent to let the spiral tool remain >until Nathan has a replacement for it? Yes, and only if that replacement is a strict superset. Sorry for sounding harsh, but this desicion really appalled me. I hope I convinced you to revert this decision, and moreover I hope you don't take decisions that suddenly kill almost a thousand lines of good code without a serious reason and a good discussion. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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