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Re: [Inkscape-devel] xml:space problem
by bulia byak 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

>> > - when serializing svg, make sure there is no whitespace under <text> >> >>Either of these would break XML compliance. > >Disagree on the last one. Where's the incompliance? The user certainly did >not _ask_ us to insert whitespace text nodes between the tspans, and by not >inserting them we won't break any standard. There's no standard saying XML >tags must be on separate lines :) So I like this option most, but >unfortunately it requires digging deep into the parsing and serializing >code, which I'm frankly afraid to do. Well, here's a lesson for me: never be afraid of anything too early :) It turned out to be very simple. A patched repr-io is committed, works for me, please test. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] spiral???
by bulia byak 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

>Now, remember that the principle in action here is "patch first, discuss >later". Mental patched, now we're discussing. ;-) > >We had another case like this earlier this week when some status bar >functions were added that assumed use of global variables. The initial >patch to the code appalled another developer, but by discussing it >subsequently, good solutions were worked out. That might be a good counterpoint, if not for one difference: you don't need anyone's testing when you remove something, because there's nothing to test. We don't need to try spiral-less Inkscape to discuss whether the spiral was good or bad. In my case, I didn't remove anything, just added. And I raised the point on the list and in Wiki first, and committed my solution for testing later. Where I initially planned to remove something (namely the status_set signal), I did not go on until I heard from others on this change. >So while I do agree that discussion is *very* important, and in this >case agree with you that the removal of the spiral should have been >mentioned on the list, I would disagree that feature decisions _must_ be >discussed before changes are made. OK, what about a rule: feature DELETIONS (especially without a substitute) must be discussed on the list first. In the rest, I agree with you. >released version, so it was guaranteed that everyone would either notice >it missing and start a discussion, or not notice it and prove it was >unnecessary. Well, I don't have the habit of inspecting the entire program every day to see if anything's missing :) So "not noticing" is by no means an indication that it's not necessary. Again, let's use a simple rule: do what you want, except _don't remove_ anything without discussing first. Sorry for "freaking out". Hopefully we'll be able to avoid such collisions in the future. _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger � learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] spiral???
by bulia byak 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The moment we start thinking about the mythical "user out there" we are >going to make stupid decisions. "Scratch your itch," yes. But don't stop others from scratching their itches! This is what you do by removing other people's features. >The reality is that spirals don't seem to get used as they are too >specialised - to test this theory we should remove the icon from the tool >bar and see who screams :). I do. And seriously, don't we have lots of other important work to do, instead of testing each other's screaming reflexes? If you have a better tool, I would love to see it. But removing something first is not a good way to pique my interest :) _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] xml:space problem
by bulia byak 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jon, please see a new comment in this bug: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=859568&group_id=9… This is clearly a problem with the color picker, and it seems to be easy to fix. Could you please have a look? If you fix it, you will probably kill two more bugs with one shot: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=861183&group_id=9… https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=859680&group_id=9… _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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spiral???
by bulia byak 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mental, why did you remove the spiral tool?! Please return it! _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Minor CVS request for Win32
by Bob Jamison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, all. To make it easier for people unfamiliar with building GTK+ apps on Win32, I uploaded a zip file with everything needed (current dependencies) to link with Inkscape on Win32: http://troi.lincom-asg.com/~rjamison/files/gtk2.zip It would be nice, however, if a kindly committer would add the extra codepage source files needed for the build to src/libnrtype. These are not touched at all by the Linux/Unix build, so they will not break anything. However, (IMHO) they really should be in the source tree. There are only about 12 .c files: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sodipodi/sodipodi-codepages-1.0.zip?down… BUT, with the change to C++, they need to be changed, too. Here are the same files, but tweaked for C++: http://troi.lincom-asg.com/~rjamison/files/nrtype-codepages.zip I have a set of diffs and Makefiles for building Inkscape with MinGW. I have Borland and MSC++ , but I really like this compiler for a few reasons: 1) Anyone can download it and use. This will help grow the developer base. 2) It is relatively small. It does not consume all of your disk space. 3) It is somewhat of a worst-case scenario. The fact that it resides in a Gnu-less environment, coupled with the fact that it is a bit stricter than the same GCC on Unix, makes it a good test of the robustness and portability of code. I'll post the files later. Bob Jamison Titan Corp

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] some questions/suggestions
by bulia byak 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Another approach that might be useful would be a "cookie cutter" mode, >where each mouseclick pastes a copy of the object to the click location. >This could be useful for maps and diagrams, where you will be using a >lot of symbols or repeated shapes. Indeed - but not by clicks and not in a separate mode, simply that ctrl-v must paste into the location of the cursor. So you just move your mouse with one hand and keep pressing ctrl-v with the other, lots of fun :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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verbs rework
by MenTaLguY 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just a quick note to let y'all know that I'm redoing the verbs stuff. Nobody touch anything there until I'm done... -mental

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RE: text inset
by bulia byak 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I tried the latest CVS, and it's better in that there is no exponential growth of weird node clusters, and I could apply outset many times in a row, with acceptable results. However, now it distorts shapes more - not by growing clusters but by changing straight lines to curves and rounding some of the sharp corners more than others. But I think that this approach is still much better, it just needs to be less agressive so as to better preserve the shape. One problem: now both inset and outset commands do outset :) As for not using the stroke width for the in/outset distance (bug 860660), I thought that instead of using an absolute value, it's more natural to use a percentage of the object's dimension. For example, 5% of the min(height, width). Could you please program that so we could test how it feels? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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a couple 'make' errors
by Eric Pierce 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hmm... 'make' is dying on me. I'm not sure where to go on this one. I'm running SuSE 9.0/gcc-3.3.1/glibc-2.3.2. Any ideas? Eric Pierce ---------------------------- gnome.c: In function `sp_module_print_gnome_setup': gnome.c:144: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gnome.c: In function `sp_module_print_gnome_fill': gnome.c:293: error: `SP_WIND_RULE_EVENODD' undeclared (first use in this function) gnome.c:293: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once gnome.c:293: error: for each function it appears in.) gnome.c:309: warning: passing arg 3 of `sp_paint_server_painter_new' from incompatible pointer type make[3]: *** [gnome.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/hp/downloads/inkscape-0.36/src/modules' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/hp/downloads/inkscape-0.36/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/hp/downloads/inkscape-0.36' make: *** [all] Error 2 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

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