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Question from left field
by Erik Robson 18 Aug '20

18 Aug '20

Hello, all. I'm sorry to spam the whole dev list with this, but I'm not sure how else to handle the situation. I'm not a programmer; I'm an artist (who has done a little bit of C++/C# programming.) My issue is that my workflow is dependent upon an interface that disappeared after mid-2014. So I've been running 0.48.5 since then. The interface is the Pen Tool, Spiro Spline setting. The essential interface is *click* for corner node, *drag* for smooth node. This workflow is extremely intuitive - so much so that it's proven more valuable to me than the numerous improvements made to Inkscape since 2014. With the release of 1.0, I thought I'd investigate making local builds and seeing whether I could modify my local source to behave like 0.48.5 with the Pen Tool. (Thanks to the Wiki instructions, I'm successfully compiling 1.0 locally!) What I've found, of course, is that everything's different. Where 0.48.5 had enum { SP_PEN_CONTEXT_MODE_CLICK, SP_PEN_CONTEXT_MODE_DRAG }; ...1.0 has: void _bsplineSpiro(bool shift); //creates a node in bspline or spiro modes ... void _bsplineSpiroStartAnchor(bool shift); //continues the existing curve with the union node in bspline or spiro modes So the shift modifier (as opposed to still mouseup vs. drag + mouseup) has permeated, and click/drag distinctions are discarded. My question is this: How would someone (particularly a non-programmer) approach re-implementing click/drag in the Pen Tool? Keep in mind, I'm not trying to disrupt the official source or product; I just need to make local builds for my own use. And it's not an emergency - 0.48.5 does everything I require, and if need be I can just stick with that. However, if there's a way to get the old Pen interface with all the 1.0 improvements, I'd like to try. Thanks, Erik Robson

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Board meeting this Friday!
by Ted Gould 03 Aug '20

03 Aug '20

Hello Inkscapers, We have a board meeting this Friday in #inkscape-devel on Freenode or the Devel room on https://chat.inkscape.org. It is at Noon Texas time, but you're welcome from places other than Texas. In fact, everyone is welcome to attend! I imagine that we'll be getting an update from the virtual sprint. Find time where you are here: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Inkscape+Board+Me… See you there! Ted

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Inkscape developer meetings
by Marc Jeanmougin 25 Jul '20

25 Jul '20

Hi all developers, during recent discussions, we have been pondering the idea of regular dev meetings, and discussing them again on the live today, we are suggesting to hold them every eight days (so that if someone has an agenda problem with a day of the week, it'll still be okay for most of the meetings) . The idea for these meetings would be to talk about the development of Inkscape code informally, discuss bug reports we have been working on, recently raised regressions, etc, so that we could help one another if needed and get a wider sense of who is working on what area, and how things are progressing overall with features or releases in mind. Tentatively, we could hold a first meeting on August 6th 5pm UTC (24h before next board meeting ?) If you have any remarks about this, feel free to voice them :) Thanks everyone! -- Marc

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Hackfest 2020: Developer Day
by Martin Owens 23 Jul '20

23 Jul '20

Dear Developers, This coming Saturday we are continuing are hackfest sessions with our developer day. If you are a developer, please come along at any point during the day starting at 4PM UTC and ending at 10PM UTC. There will be a meeting to talk about Inkscape's development specifically will be at 5PM UTC hosted by Thomas Holder, one item to talk about is if the developer team should meet once a month like other teams do. The rest of the day we will be looking at merge requests together. Going through some code and doing some presentation style hacking. Expect a lot of screen sharing! Let me know if you have anything specific you'd like to present before Saturday. Thanks everyone! Best Regards, Martin Owens Hackfest Organiser

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gitlab.com gold group features
by Marc Jeanmougin 14 Jul '20

14 Jul '20

Hi all, this is a short "what do you think about this?" message about gitlab. Current state of things : we currently use gitlab on their "gold" plan which does include proprietary extensions to the free software gitlab core (those features are scoped labels, multiple assignees, related issues (/duplicates), multiple issues boards, exceptions to protected branches, push rules, merge approvals). By "just asking", we could also have access to group-level gold features, such as Epics which are like meta-issues to track releases or big feature plans ( https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/group/epics/ ) and Group milestones (instead of having per-project milestones) The question is simple : should we ? (Pro : we get access to it; Cons : it's asking to use proprietary features, which is not something we usually do) -- Marc

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Quick update on scribus pdf. current screenshots.
by NASA Jeff 11 Jul '20

11 Jul '20

here's the current screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/T5awaBn.jpg and of the work to be done: https://i.imgur.com/ccU08hN.png i have to do a grid / form layout and some elements, which is trickier than it sounds. more tricky than freee-flow text. i may decide are best left free standing and not in any particular editable layout.

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Hackfest Today! 4PM UTC Leadership/Board day
by Martin Owens 11 Jul '20

11 Jul '20

Dear Develoeprs, Users and everyone, Today is the first experimental online hackfest day. Go here to join: https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/vec-tz3-fi9 Today we'll join joining teams and talking about what responsibilities different parts of the project do or should have as well as hosting a "Meet the board" meeting at 5PM UTC. Hope to see you all there! Next week: UX and design day! Best Regards, Martin Owens

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PDF and patents, feel free to ignore this if it's touchy.
by NASA Jeff 11 Jul '20

11 Jul '20

Hi, I'm currently writing an import filter to import free flow pdf text into Scribus for editing but i'm aware that there's no free pdf editor worth it's salt because pdf is patent encumbered. as a result all pdf editors that let you edit free flow pdf text are quite expensive and the free versions often limited by watermarks. anyhow, i hope i've avoided any patent issues as layout and fonts used bare no resemblance to anything pdf uses as I aggregate all the text and use Scribus's quite advanced layout engine to do the bulk of the heavy lifting with some vaguely intelligent aggregation code to aggregate the text in the filter. anyhow, can anyone give me a heads up on pdf and patents?

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Inkscape Vectors July Meeting Invitation
by Maren Hachmann 03 Jul '20

03 Jul '20

Hello everyone, the Inkscape Vectors (Marketing and Outreach team) are holding their monthly meeting tomorrow at 15:00 UTC. (time zone converted: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Inkscape+Vectors+… ) Find the proposed Agenda at https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/-/issues/162 . Please add your agenda item suggestions to the issue, and join us in the dedicated rocket.chat channel at https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_vectors See you tomorrow! Maren

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bit of an update on svg animation
by NASA Jeff 28 Jun '20

28 Jun '20

- hi everyone - I've been looking at animation support and evaluating the competition. also I found a javascript implementation of the web animations api which may be the animation engine to support as it's getting native support in browsers. that doesn't limit us by not allowing support for snap or GSAP on top of this. web animations API works with css and svg and provides interfaces to animation, keyframes and timelines. - - https://github.com/web-animations/web-animations-js <https://github.com/web-animations/web-animations-js> github.com *web-animations/web-animations-js* <https://github.com/web-animations/web-animations-js> JavaScript implementation of the Web Animations API - web-animations/web-animations-js - SVGator, a commercial svg animator supports javascript (using it's custom engine) or css - I still wouldn't suggest supporting any old javascript, but a cut down version of javascript where complex functions get replaced with stubs that return some default value and the code can be evaluated to get the animation (limited by what javascript functionality is implemented) and property settings for the animation can be traced. I would do this roughly by using the built in parser in the javascript engine to calculate animation settings to be presented in the UI. the commercial svg animation tool SVGator supports javascript and css. it doesn't allow the javascript to be modified in the application, I haven't tried importing and svg file with modified javascript. it may also be a good idea to support snap or GSAP ontop of this, on the other hand, they may become obsolete as web animation s API gets full support and people start writing functions for it such as the morph one found here https://coherent-labs.com/Documentation/cpp-gameface/d1/dea/shape_morphing.… - - for instance, simple loops may be supported, but more complex(that use the result of a function call to determine the loop[ conditions) ones may be too complex to support rationally - Doing this loses nothing as the animation will still run in a browser, but Inkscape may only support animations with complex functionality partitioning - Accurate animation playback can still be supported by executing the javascipt but I would limit imports to trusted javascript and not any old javascript for reasons of side effects and security. there are already shims that implement SMIL in javascript, and assuming they allow you to position the timeline and query keyframes and object attributes they should allow for a relatively straight forward SMIL implementation so long as javascript is supported. this proposal sees inkscape supporting SMIL, CSS and javascript. the Web Animations API implementation should allow for the support of CSS without any javascript but can still be used for the actual process of animating and setting the timeline position. at the moment I'm still working on importing text from pdf files in scribus. I have most of the functionality already implemented for this out just requires a bit of polish. to do that I'm going to refactor the code to use a simple framework that should make the code a lot cleaner, be faster and support all the features for the Polish needed to have a decent implementation.

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