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Second n00b question: Cairoification
by joel＠...1709... 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Here's my second question: how's the cairofication coming along? For me this would be a truly killer feature: fast hardware rendering in OpenGL. What problems stand in the way of us switching over before the next release? I heard about the problem with off-centre elipse gradient fills. Is this the only sticking point? Couldn't we just cludge it by composing the gradient out of loads of bilinear filled triangles, or by a pile of ellipses? Or couldn't we put pressure on the Cairo guys to add support - wouldn't having Inkscape use their engine be a big incentive for them to grease the weels? Or are there other things to think about? or is it simply a work in progress for the assigned developer?

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Toolbar Icons in Windows
by joel＠...1709... 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Those icons also look really good. I'm so glad all these open applications are getting a face lift; it makes them so much more appealing. ---------------------------------------- From: Andreas Nilsson <nisses.mail@...563...> Sent: 01 July 2007 15:38 To: joel@...1709... Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Toolbar Icons in Windows joel@...1709... wrote: > I have a question about standard toolbar icons. I notice that when I > run inkscape in Gnome in Ubuntu, the system provides some of the > standard icons in toolbar for things like Open, Save, Print, Cut, Copy > and Paste. These Ubuntu provided icons look really good (are > they Tango?). However, in the Windows version of Inkscape (or is it > GTK+ ?), the standard icons just look a little dreary, and washed out. > Is there any chance that the Windows users could have brighter icons > which follow the Windows style guidelines? - like the Silk Icons > (http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/), or for that matter any > icons which follow the Tango style guidlines? > Hi Joel! I assume you refer to the gtk+ stock icons that are being used in the stable windows builds, and yes, they fit in somewhat bad on windows. However, new gtk+ stock icons are coming in the next stable release (gkt+ 2.12?). These should blend in a bit better with other windows applications. Check out http://www.andreasn.se/blog/?p=45 for more details. - Andreas

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Toolbar Icons in Windows
by joel＠...1709... 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

Those icons look great! I can't wait till they're in. ---------------------------------------- From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...> Sent: 01 July 2007 14:24 To: inkscape-devel <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Toolbar Icons in Windows On 7/2/07, joel wrote: > These Ubuntu provided icons look really good (are they Tango?). They are in Tango style, but not Tango. The theme is called Human. > or for that matter any icons which follow the Tango style guidlines? Yes, we have a tango styled icon set in works. Have a look at http://gnomelook.org/content/show.php/Tangofied+inkscape+icons+set?content=… if you want to know more :) Alexandre ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Toolbar Icons in Windows
by joel＠...1709... 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

I have a question about standard toolbar icons. I notice that when I run inkscape in Gnome in Ubuntu, the system provides some of the standard icons in toolbar for things like Open, Save, Print, Cut, Copy and Paste. These Ubuntu provided icons look really good (are they Tango?). However, in the Windows version of Inkscape (or is it GTK+ ?), the standard icons just look a little dreary, and washed out. Is there any chance that the Windows users could have brighter icons which follow the Windows style guidelines? - like the Silk Icons (http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/), or for that matter any icons which follow the Tango style guidlines? Sorry to keep posting comments about such seemingly trival details - I'm just stickler for details sometimes.

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new API: XML::Subtree
by MenTaLguY 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

I've introduced a new API for monitoring changes to subtrees of a given XML tree. It extends the existing change notification API for XML::Node by providing an attachment point for NodeObservers to observe changes to an entire subtree in the document, instead of just a single node. The main difference is that rather than registering a NodeObserver with a Node via Node::addObserver, you create a Subtree object for that node and add the observer to it instead. XML::Node *some_node; XML::NodeObserver &observer; ... XML::Subtree *subtree = new XML::Subtree(*some_node); subtree->addObserver(observer); ... subtree->removeObserver(observer); delete subtree; // XML::Subtree is manually manged I'm going to do a more efficient implementation of XML::Subtree eventually, but that shouldn't alter the API given here. -mental

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Updated Wiki Eclipse Tutorial
by joel＠...1709... 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Now that Eclipse Europa is out, I've updated the Eclipse Pages (I believe correctly) to reflect the changes made in this release.

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Tutorial translations: switching to xml2po
by Colin Marquardt 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Hi, is there anyone who objects using xml2po for the tutorial translations? See http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/DocumentationTranslation for the process. With xml2po, translators would get regular po files to translate, with all the positive effects (no manual looking for string changes; more dedicated tools than for Docbook; familiarity of amny translators with the format; translator credits for free (even though we don't pull them yet for the About box); strings from included images are in the same file; the Gnome people are using it; and probably some more). I am using xml2po for the German translation since pre-0.45, and it worked quite well so far. I have started automating the conversion process to HTML/SVG (to the then intermediate Docbook XML) in SVN. So if there are no valid objections overriding the plusses, I will soon start converting all translated Docbook XML files to the po format. Please submit any translated XML files that are not yet in SVN. I think now is a good time to tackle that process, considering that 0.46 is probably a while but not too far away, and there are quite some efforts going into tutorials recently (thanks Ryan :). Cheers Colin PS: I'm cmarqu on IRC.

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Effects on Win32 (and side note)
by Joshua A. Andler 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Okay... first off, I nuked my svn checkout, xmingw, and my gtklibs... Then brought everything back up-to-date and clean at that. Cross-compiled for win32 and fired up inkscape on the win32 box. The error I reported yesterday persisted (about not finding python25.dll). I manually moved the dll file from the main inkscape dir into the python subdirectory where python.exe resides. This solved problem of not being able to find the dll. However, effects still do not work. When I try to run effects (interpolate is my example here) I now get output stating: "python: can't open file 'share\extensions\interp.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory" For the sake of trying to find a workaround (like the dll), I copied the "share\extensions" directory structure with the contents into that python dir as well (hey it worked for the dll). Unfortunately, this did not fix it. It seems like this may be more related to our library upgrade and new python than the changes Ted made. I really want to make sure that people will still be able to use effects on win32, and it seems like the sooner we can know if there's a problem, the better. Anyone else building for/on win32 having a different experience? Again, note that I'm cross-compiling, not compiling natively. Side note: Bob, the gtkrc file copied to "inkscape\etc\gtk-2.0" has the correct change I suggested. But, the gtkrc file that is in "inkscape\share\themes\MS-Windows\gtk-2.0" does not have the change and it is the one inkscape actually uses. -Josh P.S. Ted, you're getting CC'd because I want you to know that I plan on testing your changes on win32 asap... and also to know that I will bug you if your changes don't work on win32. ;)

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Getting the GdkWindow in which a verb was invoked
by Joel Holdsworth 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi again, I'm currently working on a patch to add support for native file dialogs for windows users. It's worked out pretty well, and I'm almost finished. I have one slight problem though: parent windows. In the GTK version, sp_file_open_dialog (in file.cpp) is called from inside FileVerb::Perform in verbs.cpp. But how is it possible to get the GdkWindow object of the windows in which the verb was invoked? If I have this I can add it as an extra parameter to sp_file_open_dialog, to enable both the GTK, and Win32 file dialogs to be correctly set as child windows of the document's window. Any suggestions? Joel Holdsworth

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Object Sets
by Jeff Rose 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi Inkscapers, I was just talking with a friend while he is working on some diagrams in inkscape, and he wants to be able to have items in multiple groups. (This is a network diagram, so for example it would be nice to have a set of all nodes, to be able to change color and style, but then also put various subnets of nodes into their own groups so they can be transformed as a unit.) Looking into it a bit it seems that this is really a limitation of the way svg handles groups, and since both groups and layers in inkscape are implemented with svg groups I guess it's not possible to use a set oriented approach like this? Any ideas why groups are limited in this way within the svg spec? I can imagine a number of situations in which it would be nice to change style attributes or script or transform on different sets of potentially overlapping objects. Any thoughts on this? -Jeff

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