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Fwd: Re: Win98 SE and problem with Inkscape installing
by John Cliff 17 Feb '06

17 Feb '06

Did we manage to make a build that works on 98 in the end? I know there was talk of it... Cheers Sim --- info-Pavatools <info@...1184...> wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:48:00 +0100 > From: info-Pavatools <info@...1184...> > To: John Cliff <simarilius@...36...> > Subject: Re: Win98 SE and problem with Inkscape installing > > John Cliff ha scritto: > > Hi Mike, > > Is this version 0.43? > > Hallo John, thanks for your answer. Yes it is 0.43 version... I have > looked your link but I am not so able with software...but the end > words > are "... Inkscape 0.43 don't work on W'98 SE..." right? I should wite > a > new release..or change the OS... > Thanks Mike > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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scale
by Jon Phillips 17 Feb '06

17 Feb '06

How did SCALE go? Can someone write up a synopsis? Are there any pictures? Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org) San Francisco Art Institute (www.sfai.edu)

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SCALE Inkscape Booth
by John Taber 16 Feb '06

16 Feb '06

Gareth, The Inkscape project would like to really thank you for the extra effort you made to get an Inkscape booth. We had lots of visitors and many were exposed to Inkscape for the first time. The show was so well run and the operations guys did an outstanding job with supplying us an extra table, extra power cords, and keeping internet connections going. Also having it at a hotel was extremely convenient. Hope to see you next year if not before. John

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Creative Commons Film Screening : RSVP : This Friday : Reception Following
by Jon Phillips 16 Feb '06

16 Feb '06

Hello, this is an event that Creative Commons is putting on this Friday in San Francisco. It will be an amazing event with many bright people coming together for networking, viewing this film and drinks. Please RSVP! I'm sorry this is off-topic from these lists, but I wanted to say that this will be a great event to attend if you are interested in Creative Commons, Open Source, Development and/or meeting up with me and talking about ccHost, Inkscape, Open Clip Art Library, etc. :) Jon ### Elisabeth Shue and Creative Commons invite you and a guest to a very special screening and celebration of the newly Creative Commons licensed film Teach by Davis Guggenheim Presented in association with the Teachers Documentary Project Friday, February 17, 2006 6 p.m. screening in the Rainbow Room Followed by a cocktail reception The San Francisco LGBT Community Center 1800 Market Street, San Francisco Seating is limited so please respond with acceptances only to: Anne N. Marino, CC Development Director, at 415-946-3068 or anne@...158... Photo used under CC-BY license, http://www.flickr.com/photos/lainmoon/3 -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org) San Francisco Art Institute (www.sfai.edu)

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Re: [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN Commit: inkscape: [10901] replaced connectors in connector layout icon with ordinary line to fix weird bug that
by unknown＠example.com 15 Feb '06

15 Feb '06

> Log Message: > ----------- > replaced connectors in connector layout icon with ordinary line > to fix weird bug that needs a better solution! basically, > connectors in the icon were being confused with connectors in the > main document and ids were overlapping and causing problems when > trying to extract the connector graph If the connector code confuses conflates elements with the same ID in different documents, that's a VERY, *VERY* serious issue. I sincerely hope this isn't a result of inappropriate use of global variables... -mental

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picking items with mouse down
by bulia byak 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Michael, For months I've been annoyed by a number of small breakages in Inkscape behavior. Knots and handles remained highlighted after I release mouse; rubberband rectangle stayed on if I accidentally ended it on a node; some other small weirdnesses. Nothing fatal, but rather annoying, and a sign of something broken somewhere. Today I finally had time to do timed checkouts to find out when this thing started. What I found was your change back in August: http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/inkscape/inkscape/trunk/src/display/s… I understand your reason for this change, but as you see, by enabling your own tool, you disrupted the work of most other tools that relied on the old behavior. So I would really appreciate if you rethink this change and implement it in some other less disruptive way. For example, you can add a flag to canvas items that would make them receive events while mouse is down, and use that for your connector tool handles, while all other canvas items would by default not receive events as before. Or you can add a flag to canvas itself to switch it to "pick while mouse down" mode only when in connector tool. Or you can come up with something entirely different. In any case, this situation needs to be fixed somehow. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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new bug category SVG
by Ralf Stephan 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Hello, there is now a bug category SVG with already a dozen reports, so if you're interested in those only, please use the filter. A few CSS related ones have made it there too. ralf

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Designing a poster with Inkscape
by jiho 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Hi all, I've been using Inkscape latest SVN extensively for a while to produce a scientific poster. My first words are: thank you so much! I've hesitated and tested inkscape, scribus, omnigraffle, adobe illustrator and even keynote (power point like program from apple) before choosing inkscape. I hoped to make the SCALE people benefit from my experience but it seems that there will be no actual poster there... too bad ;-) I don't know if it's good enough for the showcase section of the web site but here are some screenshots and small accompanying texts: -------------------------- A scientific poster has to be precisely organized, full of information yet visually attracting and should be printable at different scales (poster + handouts). Though Inkscape was not directly intended for such use, all these goals were achieved with it! http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/ poster_publish_ghostscript.pdf [WARNING: big file. 7.5 Mb] The layers and outline mode allowed to work on this complicated file while keeping things responsive enough. When it got to the point that the whole file was just too big (over 5000 objects) it was cut down in pieces and all files were merged in the final document by import or copy/paste. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_outline.png The gradients and scripts from the new "Effects" menu helped to create an attractive look (well, attractive to me at least!). The bitmap tracing feature and open clipart library provided scale independent eye candy for some icons and other stuff. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_eye_candy.png The text was flowed into custom shaped frames so that it had a "clever" position with respect to the graphics. It was edited though the Text Tool palette which was easier on the eye and helped to focus on content rather than on layout for a while. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_text.png All the vector graphics were produced in SVG and were therefore completely editable within the poster which allowed to have a unified look (for the fonts, line width, colors etc.). The "Apply style" command (SHIFT+CTRL+V), the styles minibar and the swatches panel, helped to unify the styles quickly. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_style1.png http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_style2.png In the end the SVG file was exported to EPS and converted to PDF in order to be printed. The text was outlined to avoid font problems when printing on some other computer for 2mx1m output. The PDF was scaled down to A4 sheets in order to produce handouts. -------------------------- The above text gives you some the "Pros" of using inkscape for this work. Thank you again for all these functionalities which made my life easier (especially the latest additions which made it worth using SVN) and developed rather than restraint my creativity (well I'm a scientist but let say I can be creative anyway ;-) ). Unfortunately there are still some "Cons" :-). I listed them in decreasing order of importance: 1. An important problem was speed. As I mentioned, hiding layers and using the great outline mode helped but responsiveness was still not always optimal. I worked (remotely though, by X -query) on a big dual Xeon with lot of RAM. Try to move something with the mouse on the final file: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_publish.svg [WARNING 12.1 Mb] On this file I experience a delay of 1 to 3 seconds when moving complex objects, especially when many snapping options are enabled. 2. I encountered regular crashes (20 to 30 in the total editing time which is around 30 hours I think). Their impact was diminished by the auto saving feature though (thanks, I think I would have gone crazy without it). Many occurred at the end of a long editing process, with many documents open, but were not reproducible when I reopened the autosaved document and retry the same modification. I guess they are related to some memory failure somewhere. They often happen when adding layers of ungrouping complex sets of objects but I cannot be more precise sorry... Some others I managed to reproduce are in the bug tracker: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429043&group_id=93438&atid=604306 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429049&group_id=93438&atid=604306 And a RFE: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429035&group_id=93438&atid=604309 3. PDF export would have been great for transparency. Well this is known but I mention it here to be exhaustive. 3. I missed some text editing features, especially for large flowed texts. I realize Inkscape is not intended for such use but justified text (through the GUI), hyphenation, columns and bulleted lists would have been useful. Furthermore, changing fonts would have been easier if the font list was searchable. In addition, the edition of text in the Text Palette was great but clicking the "Apply" button applies the modifications to the text AND applies the style selected in the other tab of the Palette to the whole text... which erases all modifications of the style of some words (like title in bold, some words in italics...). It would be great if this kind of "story editor" respected the styles already applied on the text and used them (like: writes in bold when editing after a word in bold etc.). Related RFEs: justify: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1395787&group_id=93438&atid=604309 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1223576&group_id=93438&atid=604309 hyphenation: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429051&group_id=93438&atid=604309 bulleted list/collumns: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429056&group_id=93438&atid=604309 Text and Font Palette: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429151&group_id=93438&atid=604309 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1214021&group_id=93438&atid=604309 4. The swatches and styles minibar were great...but could be even better. I would have liked to see drag and drop from the swatches panel/palette to the styles rectangles in the minibar which would make the minibar a good quick replacement for the Fill and Stroke Palettte. I would have liked the swatches panel/palette to remember which set I used on a per document basis. I also could have used a "custom styles" section in the swatches panel where I could have imported styles (fill+stroke) from my document. Eventually I would vote for the square color previews in the minibar because I guess I am less agile than bulia with my pen and don't always aim right! I think it would be easier with squares. Related RFEs: drag and drop http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429027&group_id=93438&atid=604309 swatches pannel state http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429025&group_id=93438&atid=604309 custom styles http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=856716&group_id=93438&atid=604309 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1066385&group_id=93438&atid=604309 5. The lack of transparency prevented me to use the "Blur Edges" extension do produce dropshadow effects. Though this extension is great some real gradients/dropshadow effects would have been even better. I guess this is also known but I cannot find it under this name as an RFE. Thanks for reading all this. I realize that some of these request are probably not directly in the scope of Inkscape and I tried to set their priority according to this. Thanks again for this great software. JiHO --- Windows, c'est un peu comme le beaujolais nouveau : a chaque nouvelle cuvee on sait que ce sera degueulasse, mais on en prend quand meme par masochisme. --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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the svn path confusion
by Eric Wilhelm 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Inkscapers, This page has been lying to us ever since the paths in the svn were reorg'd. I've seen more than one question about it on IRC and I don't even spend much time there. http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=93438 There is no https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/inkscape/trunk In an effort to get sourceforge to change this page (I'm under the impression that the page cannot be modified by inkscape devs (Is that correct?)), I submitted the following bug and was met with the (also following) rubberstamp reply. I am in no way accusing level1 support of putting too much thought into the issue. Is there a better way to get through to the sourceforge staff or some other way to get this page corrected? Thanks, Eric ---------- Forwarded Message: ---------- Subject: [ sitedocs-Support Requests-1423111 ] Feedback (confused) about DocID 31070 (en) Date: Friday 03 February 2006 07:20 am From: "SourceForge.net" <noreply@...34...> To: noreply@...34... Support Requests item #1423111, was opened at 2006-02-02 18:52 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zigler You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=467457&aid=1423111&gr oup_id=52614 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None >Status: Closed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Eric Wilhelm (ericwilhelm) >Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler) Summary: Feedback (confused) about DocID 31070 (en) Initial Comment: The following feedback has been submitted via the DocManager feedback reporting form for group ID 1. Document: 31070 Group: 1 Doc Section: toc Language: en Feedback type: I was confused by this text, and think this text should be clarified. (confused) Feedback text: The inkscape developers elected to re-org their svn layout to inkscape/<module>/trunk/ rather than the automatically-created inkscape/trunk/<module> layout. Thus, the info on this page has been misleading to many users. http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=93438 --Eric Wilhelm [end] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler) Date: 2006-02-03 09:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1243797 Greetings, Please raise this issue with the inkscape project at: https://sourceforge.net/projects/inkscape/ Thank you, Erich Zigler First Level Technical Support, SourceForge.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=467457&aid=1423111&gr oup_id=52614 ------------------------------------------------------- -- I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day. --E.B. White --------------------------------------------------- http://scratchcomputing.com ---------------------------------------------------

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Inkboard
by Dale Harvey 11 Feb '06

11 Feb '06

Hey all I am a student doing a 4th year project, studying the usability / workflow effects of a multi user vector graphics prorgam, at the time, I had not heard of inkboard, and planned on developing a prototype myself. then, after realising this was far too ambitious, I decided to add multi user functionality to inkscape, to realise it had already been done. Searching the net / mailing list archives it seems there isnt any up to date information on the current state of inkboards development. I have it compiled from the latest stable and cant get inkboard sharing with other users(different bugs show with loudmouth 0.17 / 1.0 / 1.0.1), I will try compiling the latest svn checkout today My plan is to take inkboard (either the rewrite or current release, depending on the rewrite state) and modify it to fit my requirements, due to the timescale on my project, and my lack of experience with open source development, I would not be looking to join inkscape development team immediately, if all goes well with my project, I would be happy to contribute my effort to inkboard after your review. So I would appreciate it if somone could fill me in on the current state of its development, and possibly point to where my problem is getting it working ( ill post details if needed ) Also any advice pointers on how to develop with inkscape would be appreciated, I am familiar with c++, however nowhere near this scale project, which I am familiar with in other languages (java, erlang) I will be looking to contribute to inkscape / inkboard in the future after my project is finished and I have some experience with its development Thanks Dale Harvey

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