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new bug category SVG
by Ralf Stephan 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Hello, there is now a bug category SVG with already a dozen reports, so if you're interested in those only, please use the filter. A few CSS related ones have made it there too. ralf

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Designing a poster with Inkscape
by jiho 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Hi all, I've been using Inkscape latest SVN extensively for a while to produce a scientific poster. My first words are: thank you so much! I've hesitated and tested inkscape, scribus, omnigraffle, adobe illustrator and even keynote (power point like program from apple) before choosing inkscape. I hoped to make the SCALE people benefit from my experience but it seems that there will be no actual poster there... too bad ;-) I don't know if it's good enough for the showcase section of the web site but here are some screenshots and small accompanying texts: -------------------------- A scientific poster has to be precisely organized, full of information yet visually attracting and should be printable at different scales (poster + handouts). Though Inkscape was not directly intended for such use, all these goals were achieved with it! http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/ poster_publish_ghostscript.pdf [WARNING: big file. 7.5 Mb] The layers and outline mode allowed to work on this complicated file while keeping things responsive enough. When it got to the point that the whole file was just too big (over 5000 objects) it was cut down in pieces and all files were merged in the final document by import or copy/paste. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_outline.png The gradients and scripts from the new "Effects" menu helped to create an attractive look (well, attractive to me at least!). The bitmap tracing feature and open clipart library provided scale independent eye candy for some icons and other stuff. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_eye_candy.png The text was flowed into custom shaped frames so that it had a "clever" position with respect to the graphics. It was edited though the Text Tool palette which was easier on the eye and helped to focus on content rather than on layout for a while. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_text.png All the vector graphics were produced in SVG and were therefore completely editable within the poster which allowed to have a unified look (for the fonts, line width, colors etc.). The "Apply style" command (SHIFT+CTRL+V), the styles minibar and the swatches panel, helped to unify the styles quickly. http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_style1.png http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_inkscape_style2.png In the end the SVG file was exported to EPS and converted to PDF in order to be printed. The text was outlined to avoid font problems when printing on some other computer for 2mx1m output. The PDF was scaled down to A4 sheets in order to produce handouts. -------------------------- The above text gives you some the "Pros" of using inkscape for this work. Thank you again for all these functionalities which made my life easier (especially the latest additions which made it worth using SVN) and developed rather than restraint my creativity (well I'm a scientist but let say I can be creative anyway ;-) ). Unfortunately there are still some "Cons" :-). I listed them in decreasing order of importance: 1. An important problem was speed. As I mentioned, hiding layers and using the great outline mode helped but responsiveness was still not always optimal. I worked (remotely though, by X -query) on a big dual Xeon with lot of RAM. Try to move something with the mouse on the final file: http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/inkscape/poster_publish.svg [WARNING 12.1 Mb] On this file I experience a delay of 1 to 3 seconds when moving complex objects, especially when many snapping options are enabled. 2. I encountered regular crashes (20 to 30 in the total editing time which is around 30 hours I think). Their impact was diminished by the auto saving feature though (thanks, I think I would have gone crazy without it). Many occurred at the end of a long editing process, with many documents open, but were not reproducible when I reopened the autosaved document and retry the same modification. I guess they are related to some memory failure somewhere. They often happen when adding layers of ungrouping complex sets of objects but I cannot be more precise sorry... Some others I managed to reproduce are in the bug tracker: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429043&group_id=93438&atid=604306 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429049&group_id=93438&atid=604306 And a RFE: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429035&group_id=93438&atid=604309 3. PDF export would have been great for transparency. Well this is known but I mention it here to be exhaustive. 3. I missed some text editing features, especially for large flowed texts. I realize Inkscape is not intended for such use but justified text (through the GUI), hyphenation, columns and bulleted lists would have been useful. Furthermore, changing fonts would have been easier if the font list was searchable. In addition, the edition of text in the Text Palette was great but clicking the "Apply" button applies the modifications to the text AND applies the style selected in the other tab of the Palette to the whole text... which erases all modifications of the style of some words (like title in bold, some words in italics...). It would be great if this kind of "story editor" respected the styles already applied on the text and used them (like: writes in bold when editing after a word in bold etc.). Related RFEs: justify: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1395787&group_id=93438&atid=604309 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1223576&group_id=93438&atid=604309 hyphenation: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429051&group_id=93438&atid=604309 bulleted list/collumns: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429056&group_id=93438&atid=604309 Text and Font Palette: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429151&group_id=93438&atid=604309 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1214021&group_id=93438&atid=604309 4. The swatches and styles minibar were great...but could be even better. I would have liked to see drag and drop from the swatches panel/palette to the styles rectangles in the minibar which would make the minibar a good quick replacement for the Fill and Stroke Palettte. I would have liked the swatches panel/palette to remember which set I used on a per document basis. I also could have used a "custom styles" section in the swatches panel where I could have imported styles (fill+stroke) from my document. Eventually I would vote for the square color previews in the minibar because I guess I am less agile than bulia with my pen and don't always aim right! I think it would be easier with squares. Related RFEs: drag and drop http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429027&group_id=93438&atid=604309 swatches pannel state http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1429025&group_id=93438&atid=604309 custom styles http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=856716&group_id=93438&atid=604309 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=1066385&group_id=93438&atid=604309 5. The lack of transparency prevented me to use the "Blur Edges" extension do produce dropshadow effects. Though this extension is great some real gradients/dropshadow effects would have been even better. I guess this is also known but I cannot find it under this name as an RFE. Thanks for reading all this. I realize that some of these request are probably not directly in the scope of Inkscape and I tried to set their priority according to this. Thanks again for this great software. JiHO --- Windows, c'est un peu comme le beaujolais nouveau : a chaque nouvelle cuvee on sait que ce sera degueulasse, mais on en prend quand meme par masochisme. --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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the svn path confusion
by Eric Wilhelm 14 Feb '06

14 Feb '06

Inkscapers, This page has been lying to us ever since the paths in the svn were reorg'd. I've seen more than one question about it on IRC and I don't even spend much time there. http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=93438 There is no https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/inkscape/trunk In an effort to get sourceforge to change this page (I'm under the impression that the page cannot be modified by inkscape devs (Is that correct?)), I submitted the following bug and was met with the (also following) rubberstamp reply. I am in no way accusing level1 support of putting too much thought into the issue. Is there a better way to get through to the sourceforge staff or some other way to get this page corrected? Thanks, Eric ---------- Forwarded Message: ---------- Subject: [ sitedocs-Support Requests-1423111 ] Feedback (confused) about DocID 31070 (en) Date: Friday 03 February 2006 07:20 am From: "SourceForge.net" <noreply@...34...> To: noreply@...34... Support Requests item #1423111, was opened at 2006-02-02 18:52 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zigler You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=467457&aid=1423111&gr oup_id=52614 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None >Status: Closed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Eric Wilhelm (ericwilhelm) >Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler) Summary: Feedback (confused) about DocID 31070 (en) Initial Comment: The following feedback has been submitted via the DocManager feedback reporting form for group ID 1. Document: 31070 Group: 1 Doc Section: toc Language: en Feedback type: I was confused by this text, and think this text should be clarified. (confused) Feedback text: The inkscape developers elected to re-org their svn layout to inkscape/<module>/trunk/ rather than the automatically-created inkscape/trunk/<module> layout. Thus, the info on this page has been misleading to many users. http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=93438 --Eric Wilhelm [end] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler) Date: 2006-02-03 09:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1243797 Greetings, Please raise this issue with the inkscape project at: https://sourceforge.net/projects/inkscape/ Thank you, Erich Zigler First Level Technical Support, SourceForge.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=467457&aid=1423111&gr oup_id=52614 ------------------------------------------------------- -- I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day. --E.B. White --------------------------------------------------- http://scratchcomputing.com ---------------------------------------------------

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Inkboard
by Dale Harvey 11 Feb '06

11 Feb '06

Hey all I am a student doing a 4th year project, studying the usability / workflow effects of a multi user vector graphics prorgam, at the time, I had not heard of inkboard, and planned on developing a prototype myself. then, after realising this was far too ambitious, I decided to add multi user functionality to inkscape, to realise it had already been done. Searching the net / mailing list archives it seems there isnt any up to date information on the current state of inkboards development. I have it compiled from the latest stable and cant get inkboard sharing with other users(different bugs show with loudmouth 0.17 / 1.0 / 1.0.1), I will try compiling the latest svn checkout today My plan is to take inkboard (either the rewrite or current release, depending on the rewrite state) and modify it to fit my requirements, due to the timescale on my project, and my lack of experience with open source development, I would not be looking to join inkscape development team immediately, if all goes well with my project, I would be happy to contribute my effort to inkboard after your review. So I would appreciate it if somone could fill me in on the current state of its development, and possibly point to where my problem is getting it working ( ill post details if needed ) Also any advice pointers on how to develop with inkscape would be appreciated, I am familiar with c++, however nowhere near this scale project, which I am familiar with in other languages (java, erlang) I will be looking to contribute to inkscape / inkboard in the future after my project is finished and I have some experience with its development Thanks Dale Harvey

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Label view option
by Martin Owens 10 Feb '06

10 Feb '06

Hi all, Yes I'm still here looking the code :-) What I want (apart from a working barcode plugin and clear image import options) is node labels. Currently when you select and drag nodes you have '0' information about what your doing to the node, what the node is ect ect. The first thing would be to add this information to the status bar, size of lines on either side of the node, angle of node, position on page ect ect. The second would be to have a view option which shows the above information as little labels that appear when you begin a drag operation. so next to the lines that the node effects would be size and curve information, a label near the node would tell you it's position and angle (maybe with on of those arcs to show what it is), now I know this is not useful to artist types because they don't so much design as just draw, but for creating regular complex shapes this information would be invaluable and having it near the object while the operation is being carried out would make it easy to understand as well as being closer to your eye. What do you all think of this idea? Best Regards, Martin Owens -- #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::# #::.. http://www.doctormo.co.uk/ ..::# #::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::#

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effect rename/rearrange
by bulia byak 10 Feb '06

10 Feb '06

On 2/8/06, Aaron Spike <aaron@...749...> wrote: > Unfortunately, "Perspective" is incorrect. It is an envelope, but not a > perspective envelope. I plan to rename "Summer's night" to something > less "poetic" when I can get someone to suggest a more specific and > appropriate label. I should have pressed this sooner. Sorry, for the > trouble. I just reviewed all effects and committed some changes: a new, more logical (IMHO) submenu organization; capitalization fixes in parameter names; and several renames: summer night -> envelope motion -> extrude connect the dots -> number nodes As always, feel free to disagree and propose better names! :) -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Guide to developers
by Dale Harvey 10 Feb '06

10 Feb '06

Hey again I was wondering if there was any quick guide to development with inkscape I have read http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/DeveloperManual however I was looking for more of a quick guide to compliation of the seperate files / linking etc Currently, reasonably new to c++, especially on a project this big, I am just running make while making small changes to individual files, it works, but incredibly time consuming, so was wondering if there was a way of compiling / linking individual source files, without recompiling the entire modules it resides within if anyone could give me a quick overview of their process while developing small changes I could figure out the details and probably post a beginners guide on the wiki Thanks Dale

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0.43: make: wcstoimax() invalid conversion
by Jim Osborn 09 Feb '06

09 Feb '06

Make fails for me building Inkscape-0.43. A full transcript of the log is below. The problem seems to be a series of invalid conversions from __gw<blah> to w<blah> in <inttypes.h>. Here's my environment: Libs: atkmm-1.6: 2.8.2 glibmm-2.4: 2.8.4 gtkmm-2.4: 2.8.2 pangomm-1.4: 2.8.2 sigc++-2.0: 2.0.17 atk: 1.10.1 cairo: 1.0.0 gconf-2.0: 1.2.1 glib-2.0: 2.8.4 gtk+-2.0: 2.8.6 gdk-2.0: 2.8.6 gdk-x11-2.0: 2.8.6 gtk+: 1.2.10 gdk: 1.2.10 orbit-2.0: 2.13.2 pango: 1.10.1 libxml-2.0: 2.6.22 freetype2: 9.8.3 gc6.5 gnome-vfs-2.0: 2.8.4 libbonobo-2.0: 2.13.1 bonobo-activation-2.0: 2.13.1 XFree86-4.5.0 Tools: gcc 3.4.3 glibc 2.2.4 autoconf 2.5.8 automake 1.9.6 libtool 1.5.20 bison-2.1 pkg-config-0.20 <config.h> has these: #define HAVE_INTTYPES_H 1 #define HAVE_STDDEF_H 1 #define HAVE_STDINT_H 1 #define HAVE_STDLIB_H 1 #define HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H 1 #define HAVE_UNISTD_H 1 #define STDC_HEADERS 1 I fixed a vaguely similar problem compiling gnome-print-0.9 by adding #include <stdlib> to the failing .c file, but that doesn't seem to help this failure. I'd appreciate any suggestions of where to focus my debugging efforts. TIA, Jim -------------log of make:-------------------- Making all in src make[2]: Entering directory `/build/inkscape-0.43/src' if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/X11R6/include/freetype2 \ -I/usr/X11R6/include -pthread -DORBIT2=1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 \ -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include \ -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 \ -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 \ -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include \ -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include \ -I/usr/X11R6/include/freetype2 -DPOTRACE=\"potrace\" -pthread \ -I/usr/local/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/local/lib/gdkmm-2.4/include \ -I/usr/local/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/local/lib/glibmm-2.4/include \ -I/usr/local/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 \ -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/sigc++-2.0 \ -I/usr/local/lib/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 \ -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 \ -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/gtkmm-2.4 \ -I/usr/local/lib/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/local/include/atkmm-1.6 \ -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 \ -I/usr/local/include -I../cxxtest -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align \ -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter \ -march=pentium2 -O2 -pipe -MT arc-context.o -MD -MP -MF \ ".deps/arc-context.Tpo" -c -o arc-context.o arc-context.cpp; \ then mv -f ".deps/arc-context.Tpo" ".deps/arc-context.Po"; \ else rm -f ".deps/arc-context.Tpo"; exit 1; fi In file included from display/sp-canvas.h:28, from arc-context.cpp:26: /usr/include/inttypes.h: \ In function `intmax_t wcstoimax(const __gwchar_t*, __gwchar_t**, int)': /usr/include/inttypes.h:432: error: invalid conversion from \ `const __gwchar_t* __restrict' to `const wchar_t*' /usr/include/inttypes.h:432: error: initializing argument 1 of \ `long long int __wcstoll_internal(const wchar_t*, wchar_t**, int, int)' /usr/include/inttypes.h:432: error: invalid conversion from \ `__gwchar_t** __restrict' to `wchar_t**' /usr/include/inttypes.h:432: error: initializing argument 2 of \ `long long int __wcstoll_internal(const wchar_t*, wchar_t**, int, int)' /usr/include/inttypes.h: \ In function `uintmax_t wcstoumax(const __gwchar_t*, __gwchar_t**, int)': /usr/include/inttypes.h:451: error: invalid conversion from \ `const __gwchar_t* __restrict' to `const wchar_t*' /usr/include/inttypes.h:451: error: initializing argument 1 of \ `long long unsigned int __wcstoull_internal(const wchar_t*, wchar_t**, int, int)' /usr/include/inttypes.h:451: \ error: invalid conversion from `__gwchar_t** __restrict' to `wchar_t**' /usr/include/inttypes.h:451: error: initializing argument 2 of \ `long long unsigned int __wcstoull_internal(const wchar_t*, wchar_t**, int, int)' make[2]: *** [arc-context.o] Error 1

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Updated fr.po file, plus some few remarks
by unknown＠example.com 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

> matiphas@...8... wrote: > > I've just uploaded an updated fr.po file. > > Only a few strings (for Fret Find) are not yet translated : i will update > them > > as soon as I can find someone able to provide me the necessary explanations > for > > this vocabulary. > > That someone is me. Maybe we should take a shot at changing the strings > a little. Hum, in fact I was meaning the French vocabulary. The issue being this vocabulary is quite specialized (luthiers, string instrument manufacturers...) and I'd like not to commit to many mistakes. It's not a problem : I've already faced this with the typographic (remember, kerning...) vocabulary. And the issues have been solved with the help of some Inkscape developppers a good dictionnary... and some French typographs that have been kind enough to provide some "live explanations". -> I'll have to follow the same process here for this vocabulary. Not really an issue then, looks more like me justifying the fact I've not finished the job yet. > > Just a few remarks : > > - i would suggest that Licenses should be translatable > > Might be a bad idea because the license is a legal type document. Let me precise then : - first a lot of those licenses are translated in some other languages Examples : - the CC licenses are officialy translated, - the GPL is on the process of getting some official translations (not finished yet). - proprietary and public domain are explicit licenses by themselve Other point : let's say I'm a German (or French) artist. I want to specify a licence in the metadata of my creations. Up to now, with Inkscape, I'm stuck with the American licences and they may not cover my needs. This implies the need for a "custom licence" button I think... > > - it may also be a good idea to embed directly in inkscape some > documentation > > about the effects (in a tab linked to each effect dialog?) > > Excellent suggestion. Much needed. Other point : some strings are not translatable at the moment. Even if they are correctly marked in the code (Document properties, Document metadata....) they have not been embedded in the po files. Non exhaustive list : File menu : Document properties, Document metadata, Edit menu : Tile Clones View menu/show-hide : Panels Effects menu : Blur Edge, Enhance Path, Extract One Image, Render The complete Document Properties dialog ... And yet another one : I've decided in French to translate 'Summer's night' by 'Perspective', which is less poetic, but much more explicit. Regards (sorry for the verbose mail), Matiphas

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Config-time ALL_LINGUAS patch
by Jim Osborn 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

I've encountered this feature in a few other packages, and offer it as a humble suggestion. A trivial patch to configure.ac: --- orig/configure.ac Fri Nov 18 23:55:49 2005 +++ configure.ac Wed Feb 1 09:55:31 2006 @@ -74,7 +74,11 @@ AC_SUBST(GETTEXT_PACKAGE) AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED(GETTEXT_PACKAGE,"$GETTEXT_PACKAGE",[Translation domain used]) dnl Add the languages which your application supports here. -ALL_LINGUAS="am az be ca cs da de el es es_MX et eu fr ga gl hu it ja mk nb nl nn pa pl pt pt_BR ru sk sl sr sr@...428... sv tr uk zh_CN" +if test "x$ALL_LINGUAS" != "x"; then + ALL_LINGUAS=$ALL_LINGUAS +else + ALL_LINGUAS="am az be ca cs da de el es es_MX et eu fr ga gl hu it ja mk nb nl nn pa pl pt pt_BR ru sk sl sr sr@...428... sv tr uk zh_CN" +fi AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT AC_PATH_PROG(PKG_CONFIG, pkg-config, no)

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