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LJ's Readers' Choice Awards: 2nd Place
by unknown＠example.com 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

On page 84 of the November 2005 Linux Journal Inkscape has been awarded second place in the Favorite Graphics Program category. Congratulation guys! Aaron Spike

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Improve Inkscape Terminology
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Hi! We had some discussions on how to translate some expressions to german. Colin felt that we can only use "better fitting" terms if the english ones are also adapted... i think, terms should be self-explanatory, if possible. live shape for example: if you translate that to german and back you might get lifeform ;) well, i know Nortons live update also doesn't improve health, but anyway, a direct translation is impossible So, here are some suggestion of me: live shape -> dynamic shape (because it is similar to dynamic offset) dynamic offset -> dynamic object/form/shape well, maybe live shapes and dynamic offsets should not have the same name, but still they act similar. but "object with dynamic outline" is a bit cumbersome. linked offset this is hard. i'd name it "linked dynamic object" or "controlled dynamic objekt" even more "dynamic object (controlled)" because it is just the same than the parent object, plus it can be controlled by the parent object. maybe the objects name could be "dynamic object (controlled)" and the menu entry "create controlled dynamic object" or "derive controlled dynamic object" also this menu entry should only be available if a dynamic object is selected, but this may be a different topic ;) inset/outset (this is more a german problem, we just couln't find an appropriate translation) also not so simple, as "shrink" / "expand" (current german translation, there is no in/outset in german) do not really tell, that this is not a resize. Is that correct, that this scales orthogonal to the normal? how could this be expressed? a few days ago we voted for "aussenkontur/innenkontur", meaning sth. like "outer/inner contour" but now i think this is wrong, as is does not create a new outline, but scale the original object. hm... new ideas: path -> translate outwards ("nach außen versetzen" oder "nach außen setzen") path -> translate inwards ("nach innen versetzen" oder "nach innen setzen") path -> expand ("expandieren" oder "nach außen erweitern") path -> collapse ( ??? oder "nach innen ???) well... maybe we can just leave that one... colin: i just thought we could return to "schrumpfen" and "ausdehnen" but in fact, not the path is shrinked, but the surrounded area: more slim/slenderize ("schlanker"/"abnehmen") and rise ("zunehmen") another thing is, that inset/outset does not reflect that it is similar to the dynamic offset (or better dynamic object) phew... enough said and done for today... Caliga

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] FOP (SVG2PDF)
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

>>>Thus creation of previously announced Üver-Convertor (I'm lost for >>>words to express my disagreement with this nietschianish name, >>>actually) is quite a good solution. >>> >>> >>Heh. You're not the first. It started as a working title and sort of >>stuck, but right now it seems to be about 50/50 for and against the >>name (I wonder why that is?) >> >> > >Why? >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche and >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch > > weehihi :) First i *really* had to think what's about nitzsche and "Über" :) Maybe you should realize that Germans use "über" in more than 99,99% in absolutely different and normal contexts. Maybe the translation of a common folksong will be more pleasant: "Über den Wolken muss die Freiheit wohl grenzenlos sein..." "Over the clouds, i guess freedom is borderless. All fears and sorrows stay hidden beyond, they say. [...]" This song was banned in the former Federal Republic of Germany :) caliga

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] FOP (SVG2PDF)
by Alexandre Prokoudine 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

On 9/29/05, Daniel Stiefelmaier <webmaster@...985...> wrote: > weehihi :) > > First i *really* had to think what's about nitzsche and "Über" :) > Maybe you should realize that Germans use "über" in more than 99,99% in > absolutely different and normal contexts. > > Maybe the translation of a common folksong will be more pleasant: > "Über den Wolken muss die Freiheit wohl grenzenlos sein..." > "Over the clouds, i guess freedom is borderless. All fears and sorrows > stay hidden beyond, they say. [...]" > > This song was banned in the former Federal Republic of Germany :) Well, thank you, but I've been studying German since 1988, so your comment doesn't make any sense to me, sorry :) My point is that reusing "Über-" Composite brings too much confusion and you have all chances in the world to end up explaining each and everyone that you didn't mean anything offensive. And there are better things to waste time on ;-) Alexandre

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Re: New Inkscape Goals?
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

As there was some talk about exporting to different formats, i'd like to thow in another one... OASIS came in my mind. the open document format. Karbon14 uses it yet and i'd guess OpenOffice's drawing app also will. This may not be an important goal, as the format is not popular yet, but still i think inkscape should support it sooner or later. But maybe we don't need to bother about that and get that ability from the Uber-Converter. ;) caliga

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Status bar help texts visibility
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

>>I would say, if a help line doesn't fit, it shopuld elipsize in >>tghe end and an unfolding/folding button should appear. Yes, it >>would be neat to have it as RFE. >> >> > >Hmm, I favor the elipsis + tooltip approach. It's what most other >stuff does these days in similar situations. > > In CorelDraw you can simply "drag" the edge of the status bar higher, so that it has 2 or more lines. Winamp slides long texts to the left and right, similar to some car radios :) caliga

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WEBFORM
by Caliga 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Please note, that the submitter may not read this list name: Caliga email: inkscape@...985... submitted the following: I changed the webform, so that it is now only sent to the list. Therefore, all website editors should read the list... Please remember to add a CC to the original submitter if you answer to the webform. Caliga

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update of roadmap
by Adib Taraben 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Hello, does someone will update the roadmap page ? It still lists the 0.42 as next goal. http://wiki.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Roadmap Adib. ---

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Re: [Inkscape-tester] Inkscape UI analysis
by Alexandre Prokoudine 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

On 9/29/05, cedric GEMY <radar.map35@...8...> wrote: > If people have ideas, remark or anything to say about this please, go ahead. 100% large screenshots please ;-) Alexandre

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SPDesktop
by MenTaLguY 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

I just committed a conversion of the whole UI::View::View hierarchy over to the collector -- you can't do leaf classes individually and have it work right. Has to be everything in the hierarchy. Not 100% sure I got the code straight because it was a very quick job, but I think so. I'll keep testing. Important thing for everyone to realize: just like refcounted GObjects and so forth, GC::Anchored objects start with a "refcount" of one. No need to refcount them a second time after you create them. I've made this even more explicit in the CG::Anchored documentation which I would encourage everyone to read... -mental

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