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1 bug left for 0.48.1
by Josh Andler 02 Jan '11

02 Jan '11

Hey all, Given that I'm thinking a .2 will probably be in order, this is the one bug really holding back .1 from being released at this time. https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/510618 Is anyone willing and able to look into this? If not, the only way that .1 will get out without it is to have someone pledge to fix it for 0.48.2 or 0.49 to be released (whichever makes sense in 4-6 months based on the current rate of progress). If 0.48.1 gets out without this fixed, it will not be avoidable as a fix after that... no exceptions, as unnecessarily hitting the undo-history or dirtying documents is incredibly bad practice. I hope we have a taker. Cheers, Josh

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Cut and paste from one year to another :)
by Ivan Louette 01 Jan '11

01 Jan '11

Dear open source and open minds friends I wish you the best for 2011 ! Here is an example of my research in image re-drawing and posterizing svg filter effects from 2010 cutted and pasted into the new custom filters we are working on Nicolas Dufour and me for Inkscape 0.49 Have a Great Year !!! ivan

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current trunk fails to build with dbus enabled (Bug #696062 “dbus builds no more”)
by ~suv 31 Dec '10

31 Dec '10

Bug #696062 “dbus builds no more” <https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/696062> fails with (current): 9994 last known working: 9834 on fedora 13: > CXX extension/dbus/dbus-init.o > extension/dbus/dbus-init.cpp: In function ‘void Inkscape::Extension::Dbus::init()’: > extension/dbus/dbus-init.cpp:87: warning: unused variable ‘obj’ > extension/dbus/dbus-init.cpp: In function ‘gchar* Inkscape::Extension::Dbus::init_document()’: > extension/dbus/dbus-init.cpp:109: error: ‘sp_document_new’ was not declared in this scope > ./document.h:99: error: ‘gchar* SPDocument::name’ is protected > extension/dbus/dbus-init.cpp:112: error: within this context > extension/dbus/dbus-init.cpp:103: warning: unused variable ‘result’ > extension/dbus/dbus-init.cpp:104: warning: unused variable ‘error’ > make[3]: *** [extension/dbus/dbus-init.o] Error 1 Anyone else building with dbus enabled and getting the same build failure? ~suv

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] inkscape.org update needs [text]
by Leo Jackson 30 Dec '10

30 Dec '10

Chris, I wanted to make a comment about the text shown in the mockup there. This part: "which runs on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux" Quite besides putting your fellow FOSS project last in a list of supported operating systems, especially since many distros package and release Inkscape ready to install and windows and macosx don't. It's quite simply a question of popularity. The list of operating systems goes by general OS popularity - and quite reasonably too. Linux users will expect it to go in that order, whereas if you put Linux first, I think many Windows and OS X users would be put off it as "a Linux thing" that just happens to have been loosely ported to Windows/OS X. Yes true order is right. But worse is the confusion of "Linux". Does this sentence mean that Inkscape will work on Android? Will it work on my TiVo or my Home brew Wii? It is nonsense to claim to run on Linux when linux is a kernel which can't run Inkscape in most cases. I disagree very strongly with your case here. "Linux" is a generally recognised family of operating systems. In the lingua franca, "Linux" means these operating systems, not the kernel as a technical definition of Linux may be. And there isn't really any way I think it can be improved without it becoming too verbose (frankly I think even one word more in each of the places where Linux is mentioned would be too verbose, the brevity of "Windows", "Mac OS X" and "Linux" is important, and on your later points a group of three is in a literary manner far more pleasing than four or five items would be). I don't believe anyone will get confused and expect it to run on any mobile browsers. The downloads page will also have OS-sniffing and so present the most likely of the three options first, including highlighting the relevant option (e.g. Mac OS X 10.4 users will get that button glowing and the others slightly faded, Ubuntu users will get a sentence on how to get it in Ubuntu highlighted in some way). It would be more clear and honest to say "which runs on Gnome/Linux" or "FreeDesktop Linux" or just "Fedora, Debian and other awesome Free Desktops". If you start putting in some particular flavours of Linux then you get bickering about which ones get included. And if you're of the opinion that Android and such aren't marketed as Linux and there for won't be confusing. Think about the way Ubuntu isn't marketed as Linux either (because it isn't true and because it's not helpful to scare away new users), will we have "which runs on Linux and Ubuntu" to account for that? No. Ubuntu is still recognised as Linux. And putting this in combination with highlighting the relevant information on the download page, I don't think it'll be an issue. Some people are adopting GNU/Linux as the operating system. Free Desktops include and not limited to Gnome, KDE, Xfce, and others. The lack of consideration that Linux distros are given by the Inkscape website is currently frustrating. The install for Windows and Mac is easy, but we don't have a single deb, apt link, or ppa and instead ask users to compile. Please consider rectifying and please start with the text on the front page. You're right about the need for more information on how to source Inkscape; I don't believe you're at all right about starting with the text on the front page. What it says is correct. The modifications only need to take place on the download page. So very true and easy to do. Regards, Leo Jackson

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Submission Process
by Martin Owens 30 Dec '10

30 Dec '10

Hey guys, I'm not sure I can remember if I need to do anything special for my recent submission of a branch on launchpad for review and merge. Does Inkscape follow the normal launchpad workflow since it's on launchpad? https://code.launchpad.net/~doctormo/inkscape/barcode-refactor/+merge/44768 Let me know if there is anything special I need to do to make sure this gets put into the right pile. Martin,

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inkscape.org update needs [django and video]
by Ian Caldwell 30 Dec '10

30 Dec '10

hello all! just wanted to update you all on the website we're making some good progress and things are starting to come together for the website, We're currently in the process of having the pages mocked up and then translating those to html/css and django. we do however need a couple things.. 1. We need someone to develop a good quality video for our about page it'll be a brief overview of inkscape and will hopefully be less than 2-3 minutes. - It would be great to include a couple brief interviews of prominent companies that us inkscape for their everyday work. If you're able to submit interviews in video format to add to the video it would be great too! It will essentially be a promo video - Here's an example of where the video would go ( http://dl.dropbox.com/u/41698/mockup-about_1.1.png) 2. if you're skilled in Django and willing to take on various features of the site such as i18n (localization). so if you're willing to help either email me here or join us at irc.freenode.net and join #inkscape-web Thanks and happy holidays! Ian "Inc" Caldwell

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Poppler internal API problem
by Krzysztof Kosiński 30 Dec '10

30 Dec '10

We are still using the internal Poppler API to import PDFs. This is very bad, since the internal Poppler API is not stable, and will keep breaking. (We already don't build with poppler > 0.12.1) How about using the public Glib API to render to a Cairo SVG surface instead? This is how pdf2svg works, and to be honest I had to use that utility several times to augment Inkscape, because it handles text much better. What are the advantages to using internal Poppler API directly? Regards, Krzysztof

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What's left to do before 0.48.1?
by Krzysztof Kosiński 23 Dec '10

23 Dec '10

Hello Looks like nearly everything is done for 0.48.1 now: https://launchpad.net/inkscape/+milestone/0.48.1 The remaining unclosed issues are minor: 427514 only result in some confusion when working with 2 windows at once, 520521 is a build system improvement and 510618 is a connector-related quirk we can live with for now. There's also the bezier stamping regression, but I don't think the feature is used often enough to warrant further delay; the same effect can also be achieved with some more work using Ctrl+D. Is there anything else holding up the release 0.48.1? There are several important bugs fixed in it, so I think it's important to push it out as soon as possible. Regards, Krzysztof

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Rev. 9970: Compile error and startup segfault
by Maximilian Albert 23 Dec '10

23 Dec '10

Hi, I'm having a few problems after my last pull (I'm at rev. 9970 at the moment). Firstly, I couldn't compile straight away because widgets/icon.cpp uses the GStatBuf type which AFAICT was newly added to glib in a recent version (the latest version on Ubuntu 10.04 is glib 2.24.1, which doesn't know it). Would it be possible to recode this so that the latest version supplied by Ubuntu (or other distros, for that matter) is sufficient? After installing glib 2.26.1 from source, I managed to compile Inkscape but now it crashes on startup (see backtrace below). Any ideas? Thanks, Max ------------------------------------------ Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. 0x0012d422 in __kernel_vsyscall () (gdb) bt #0 0x0012d422 in __kernel_vsyscall () #1 0x01728651 in raise () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #2 0x0172ba82 in abort () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #3 0x0166952f in __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler() () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 #4 0x01667465 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 #5 0x016674a2 in std::terminate() () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 #6 0x016675e1 in __cxa_throw () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 #7 0x005fd090 in Glib::FileError::throw_func(_GError*) () from /usr/lib/libglibmm-2.4.so.1 #8 0x0060ae82 in Glib::Error::throw_exception(_GError*) () from /usr/lib/libglibmm-2.4.so.1 #9 0x005fd5ef in Glib::Dir::Dir(std::string const&) () from /usr/lib/libglibmm-2.4.so.1 #10 0x0832bbb8 in IconImpl::validateCache () at widgets/icon.cpp:421 #11 0x0832cdac in IconImpl::prerenderIcon (name=0x985e1f4 "edit-select-all-layers", lsize=GTK_ICON_SIZE_SMALL_TOOLBAR, psize=22) at widgets/icon.cpp:1337 #12 0x0832e237 in Inkscape::queueIconPrerender (name=..., lsize=Inkscape::ICON_SIZE_SMALL_TOOLBAR) at widgets/icon.cpp:1311 #13 0x085f8118 in create_action_for_verb (verb=<value optimized out>, view=<value optimized out>, size=Inkscape::ICON_SIZE_SMALL_TOOLBAR) at widgets/select-toolbar.cpp:387 #14 0x085f9866 in sp_select_toolbox_prep (desktop=0x8e78db0, mainActions=0x98e7e60, holder=0x8a4daa0) at widgets/select-toolbar.cpp:405 #15 0x08355dd5 in setup_aux_toolbox (toolbox=0x9229f30, desktop=0x8e78db0) at widgets/toolbox.cpp:1902 #16 0x0834b204 in Inkscape::UI::ToolboxFactory::setToolboxDesktop (toolbox=0x9229f30, desktop=0x8e78db0) at widgets/toolbox.cpp:1668 #17 0x08383184 in Inkscape::UI::UXManagerImpl::connectToDesktop (this=0x97c68e8, toolboxes=..., desktop=0x8e78db0) at ui/uxmanager.cpp:230 #18 0x08320b67 in SPDesktopWidget::createInstance (namedview=0x8a5b950) at widgets/desktop-widget.cpp:1464 #19 0x08320c82 in sp_desktop_widget_new (namedview=0x8a5b950) at widgets/desktop-widget.cpp:1413 #20 0x0809655f in sp_file_new (templ=...) at file.cpp:126 #21 0x08096934 in sp_file_new_default () at file.cpp:178 #22 0x08086565 in sp_main_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbffff754) at main.cpp:982 #23 0x080886d3 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbffff754) at main.cpp:717

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potrace 1.9 is available
by Alexandre Prokoudine 22 Dec '10

22 Dec '10

Hi, Potrace 1.9 was released yesterday "The xfig and eps backends were improved, and a fixed pagesize PDF backend was added. Support for BMP version 4 and version 5 files, as well as top-down BMP files, was added. Minor speed improvements to Potrace and major speed improvements to mkbitmap. A Gaussian blur option was added to mkbitmap. Libtool is now used to build and optionally install the Potrace library. An optional simplified progress bar was added for dumb terminals. This release also contains some portability improvements, cross-compilation improvements, and minor bug fixes." Anything we need to backport? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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[website] Discussion on the wiki
by Ian Caldwell 22 Dec '10

22 Dec '10

hello, This email is sent on behalf of Steven M. Ottens. I've been pondering the wiki-issue ever since I sent my mail on site/menu-structure to Ian. A few observations: -The current wiki is a MediaWiki-wiki, which is the same as Wikipedia and as such quite known to a broad audience. -A wiki is inherently different from a pre-structured website. -We want to have both a structured website guiding the various target groups towards the info they need and have a dynamic place where new info is quickly (and chaotically) added. -We want to point people towards the more chaotically but richer information source that is the wiki from the structured website -Any 'fixed' content system is not a wiki. I've had experiences with various combinations of plain HTML, blogs, CMS and wiki's and there is no holy grail which will do everything perfect. So I think we shouldn't try to get the wiki into Django. The wiki is the wiki and people are reasonably aware of the principle of a wiki. That being said, currently the wiki is a whole separate entity which I never ventured into until today. There is a wealth of information there, but it is hidden behind the simple link 'wiki' So I don't think we should try to create a design which forces the wiki to behave as the rest of the site, but to create a separate (but similar) design for the wiki to make it clear for the users they are in the wiki with a clear way back to the site. Also we should make more appropriate links from the site to the wiki. There are many topics in the site which are also discussed in the wiki, we should link to those. I came up in my restructuring mail with 'landing pages' on various topics. Having various main pages in the wiki which reflect the menu-structure in the website might create a stronger bridge between the two, without restricting the wiki to the website-structure. Regards Steven note: I know making a difference between the wiki and 'the website' isn't entirely fair, the wiki is part of the website etc etc. It is just a quick way to get the message across (I hope)

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Lock the group from editing
by Yu-Chung Wang 20 Dec '10

20 Dec '10

Is there any API which can prevent the group from editing by the users? My situation is that I add some elements in the python extension. However, I don't want them to be changed by the users. I know that it's impossible to prevent user to delete them from the XML editor. However, I hope want to limit it from editing in the UI.

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A proposal for the filter tool (and the others)
by Teto 20 Dec '10

20 Dec '10

Hi! First, I have to say that I do like inkscape, that I use everyday, sometimes just for fun. But, like all free softwares, it has few problems. Some are not important, others may become disabling. Obviously filters belong to the second category. Not because there are buggy (they aren't), but because the rendering engine is just too slow, when you are using few "big" filters in a big picture and you want to export in a big size, it takes centuries. I'm not complaining, I take a coffee during the export, but well... And it has other few problems like "what you see is not really what you get". More than this, useful features are missing: using filter in another filter, disable/mask an effect without remove it, things like that. Again, I'm not complaining, developing a soft like Inkscape is a hard stuff, and you, developers, do a great job. First remark: When we watch filter structure closely, it's very similar to "path effects" and even "stroke" or "shape". You have an object that you change with effects: colors, shape, style and so on. For fun, again, I use UDK (Unreal Development Kit) to develop games (mostly to understand how they work). I suppose that many people know this kit, if not, search "Epic Unreal Development Kit". In this kit, like all other game development kits, you apply materials to 3D objects, that are basically textures improved with a lot of effects to fake light, glow, deepness, relief and so on. To create these effects, you use a GUI (attached picture) where you start with the 3D object (the big rectangle on the left) and put on it effects, which can be modified by sub-effects, which can be etc. The attached picture is obvious, and shows clearly how it works, I think. What do I want to say? I think that many tools/operations of Inkscape can be done via a GUI like this. - Everything can be a "basic" object: line, stroke, shape, geometric shape, group, clone. - On these objects you can change 4 things: shape (fill or edge) and color (fill of edge). That's all. - For the effects available you find all tools available in "filter" or "path effects", like bending, matrix operations, styles... - So when I want to put a "object on fire" effect on a circle, I click on it, a window like the attached picture is opened, I can see the object "circle" on the left, and few effect already attached, like fill color and the type of the stroke for the edge. I'm choosing the filter "on fire" in the library, and put it. I'm using dashes to tell where it's used, configuring it, closing the GUI, and the effect appears. - You see also what I mean: With this system you can create you own effects and use them like "basic effect" in other filters (missing feature in the actual filter tool). - It's the same for the objects themselves. For instance you could have a 'group' with effects (filter, transparency,...) with many sub-objects/shapes with their own effects. - Many existing GUI/tools in Inkscape could disappear with this one, and changed by "basic effect objects" attached on shapes/strokes: Tools filter, path effect, color, text, transform, tiling, distribute, 'rows and columns'... I do know that the work for this is huge (another summer google contest?). You have to start from scratch, basically. And I read somewhere that for futures versions, Inskcape will merge "filter tool" and "path transform tool" in order to unify all this stuff. I agree, it's essential for my point of view, if you want to continue improving your great tool without too much trouble. My idea can be useless, because the concept doesn't fit with the .svg specifications (I'm thinking about colors or edge thickness, for example, that are directly in the object definition, while filters are stored in <svg:defs>). Or compatibility with other softs that reading .svg. Or maybe you don't care. But implement this and many expensive professional vectorial tools will become "old-school" immediately ^^ ... Sorry for the length. And sorry if I seemed arrogant or smug, it wasn't my intention, English is not my native language. I just had this idea this morning. My 2 cents, François. PS: About the actual filter tool: Maybe I missed something, but the tool "snapshot picture behind the object and use it" is missing, and could be useful for effects.

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patch review needed for bug #172219 “Calligraphy pen: optionally rotate tablet tilt by 90deg”
by ~suv 19 Dec '10

19 Dec '10

Could anyone knowledgeable of tablets (code and usage) review and test the patch provided for Bug #172219 “Calligraphy pen: optionally rotate tablet tilt by 90deg”: <https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/172219> if it works as expected for tablet users and doesn't introduce regressions for us ordinary mouse clickers ;) ? ~suv

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MediaWiki skin
by Krzysztof Kosiński 17 Dec '10

17 Dec '10

Hello Can we please change the MediaWiki skin used on wiki.inkscape.org to the default, as seen on Wikipedia, but with our logo? The current one is no good and it would be more work fixing it than writing a better one from scratch. I know there is a website redesign in progress, but this is a simple change that would immediately improve the lives of wiki users. Here's how to do this. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration Regards, Krzysztof

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sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:138:22: error: missing binary operator before token "(", inkscape trunk@...2518...
by Jeff Kowalczyk 17 Dec '10

17 Dec '10

I get the following compile error with inkscape trunk rev 9964: CXX widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.o widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:138:22: error: missing binary operator before token "(" widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:223:22: error: missing binary operator before token "(" widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp: In function ‘void resizeHSVWheel(GtkHSV*, GtkAllocation*)’: widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:135:42: error: ‘gtk_hsv_set_metrics’ was not declared in this scope widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp: In member function ‘virtual void ColorWheelSelector::init()’: widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:169:26: error: ‘gtk_hsv_new’ was not declared in this scope widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:170:40: error: ‘GTK_HSV’ was not declared in this scope widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:170:49: error: ‘gtk_hsv_set_metrics’ was not declared in this scope widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp: In member function ‘virtual void ColorWheelSelector::_colorChanged()’: widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:275:82: error: ‘gtk_rgb_to_hsv’ was not declared in this scope widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:276:42: error: ‘GTK_HSV’ was not declared in this scope widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:276:53: error: ‘gtk_hsv_set_color’ was not declared in this scope widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp: In static member function ‘static void ColorWheelSelector::_wheelChanged(GtkHSV*, SPColorWheelSelector*)’: widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:351:40: error: ‘gtk_hsv_get_color’ was not declared in this scope widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:356:39: error: ‘gtk_hsv_to_rgb’ was not declared in this scope widgets/sp-color-wheel-selector.cpp:367:94: error: ‘gtk_hsv_is_adjusting’ was not declared in this scope I'm using Gentoo Linux ~amd64, let me know if there are any dependency versions you need to know. Thanks, Jeff

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Merry xmas + InkViewer as previewer?
by Mark T 17 Dec '10

17 Dec '10

All the best for your seasonal festivities. Especially those enduring the norther climes. WIn-users are a phussy lot. When introducing them to a new graphics program where there is not preview, the impact is low. Is there a path of possibility of the InkViewer being used as a preview.er in a Windows explorer preview pane? Renesis domain has expired. They did produce a previewer. MarkT -- (+61 4) 0679 5734 :: skype: govirtual.com.au :: チェックアウトが、Jingle だ! ::It's a Jingle Out There!

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0.48.1 release notes
by Krzysztof Kosiński 17 Dec '10

17 Dec '10

Hello I started the 0.48.1 release notes page, available here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.48.1 Regards, Krzysztof

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irc bot
by john cliff 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

anyone know whats going on with the irc bot in the jabber room? Cheers John

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Fwd: [Press] PRESS RELEASE: Framework 0.7 is Faster and Open Clip Art 2.8 Goes Creative Commons Zero
by jon＠...235... 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Hi guys, just let you know we making great progress on Open Clip Art Library these days and also plowing on its engine. Its a great time to come help out! Jon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jon Phillips <press@...2474...> Date: Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM Subject: Fwd: [Press] PRESS RELEASE: Framework 0.7 is Faster and Open Clip Art 2.8 Goes Creative Commons Zero To: clipart-list <clipart@...330...> Ok, cool, spread the word! We got the release out! ### San Francisco, December 15, 2010 UTC – Aiki Framework (http://aikiframework.org) is ending 2010 on a series of high notes that make up it's latest Release of Version 0.7. Lead Aiki Developer, Bassel Safadi (http://bassel.ws), along with fellow Fabricatorz (http://fabricatorz.com/about) have spent a month leading to the upgrade pushing revisions, planning Aiki's future, and deploying new features to Aiki's growing list of sites. Aiki Framework is a leading open source, web-based content management system. Version 0.7 is marked by a number of enhancements to the package, including revamps of core elements by Aiki Developer, Roger Martin (http://rg1024.wordpress.com). As a result, Aiki processing speed has been supercharged. Bassel has also been working tirelessly to enhance existing features while also killing bugs to improve user experience in the admin panel, as well as allowing developers greater control of the sites they build on the platform. Aiki's flagship site, The Open Clip Art Library (http://openclipart.org), has seen a month of growth and renewed focus on future goals for the project. Open Clip Art Library 2.8 brings over 1,000 new and remixed images into the Public Domain. Going even further to solidify OCAL as a leading provider of Open Source Content, registered users have grown by an astonishing 2,500 since November 1. The ever-expanding Community of artists continues to deliver solid themed content, as the latest Package Release brings a collection of over 75 Winter Holidays 2010 Clip Art (http://www.openclipart.org/packages-holidays2010). This release also sees the update of the site to use Creative Commons updated CC Zero Public Domain Dedication tool. The goal of this tool is to work internationally and take into account concerns by those living in jurisdictions around the world that have other types of rights around the creation of a work. By visiting the site, one will notice now all references to waiving copyright on clip art contributions are using this tool. Fabricatorz and Open Clip Art Library founder Jon Phillips stated, "Open Clip Art Library is used all around the world by Wikipedia, teachers, artists, and plain old Mom's as a key source for graphics. By updating our licensing tool, we are in compliance with the latest Creative Commons recommendation for releasing works into the public domain globally, and leading on the net with trying to increase sharing. This type of sharism is crucial to the open web." Beyond licensing, a new "Collections" system has also been launched. Registered OCAL members now have the ability to aggregate their favorite clip art into created lists. Each created list will appear on the user's profile page. This is only a first step in a larger plan for "Collections", so users are encouraged to test out this feature and report any bugs. Profile editing continues growing more robust and usable, thanks to OCAL Developer Chovynz (http://www.openclipart.org/user-detail/chovynz). Users now have access to their profile by simply selecting their username in the header. Selecting the re-worded 'My Profile' will now lead users to their management page. Improving usability even further, Bassel has invoked "pretty urls" for all clip art uploaded to Open Clip Art Library. With these new updates in place, the Librarians want to open the floodgates for Community involvement. Developers will be pleased to learn that a major behind-the-scenes update has taken place, and The Open Clip Art Library is now backed by the latest Version of Aiki Framework. On top of that, Framework auto-updates are in place, so OCAL will always be on the cutting edge as Aiki rockets toward the future. The Open Clip Art Library's progression has been mapped out on Launchpad (http://launchpad.net/openclipart). Here, users can learn where OCAL is heading and how they can help. All are encouraged to file any suggestions and bugs they find while utilizing The Open Clip Art Library, as well as helping to fix existing issues. Any who are unsure of how best to help are welcome to get started by logging into OCAL's irc chat (#openclipart at freenode.net). The invitation to contribute extends to Aiki Framework, whose future is also mapped out on Launchpad (http://launchpad.net/aikiframework). Aiki's Developers welcome feature requests and bug filing. For those just beginning their Aiki Framework adventure, online documentation is in place (http://www.aikiframework.org/wiki/Main_Page#Documentation) and is continually being updated with definitions, tutorials, and latest feature breakdowns. Aiki's irc channel (#aiki at freenode.net) is also a great place to ask questions and learn from those who are doing. Get started and be a part of a powerful and Open future. Highlights * Aiki Framework 0.7 Release * Faster processing & bug fixes * New Open Clip Art Library 2.8 Release * 2,500+ new registered users last month * Winter Holidays 2010 Clip Art Package Release * Call for Aiki Framework & Open Clip Art Library Developers For more information * http://aikiframework.org * http://openclipart.org * http://fabricatorz.com * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Clip_Art_Library * http://www.facebook.com/pages/Open-Clip-Art-Library/345650985985 * http://aikilab.org Press Contact Jon Phillips press@...2474... +1.415.830.3884 San Francisco + China _______________________________________________ Press mailing list Press@...2475... http://lists.fabricatorz.com/listinfo.cgi/press-fabricatorz.com -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/ http://fabricatorz.com/ http://status.net/ http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.187.1003.9974 (china) -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/ http://fabricatorz.com/ chat/skype: kidproto | irc: rejon +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.187.1003.9974 (china) +65.8330.5807 (singapore)

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Abhishek's "refactoring" (r9946) makes things much worse
by Krzysztof Kosiński 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Hello The object of the C++ refactoring GSoC project by Abhishek was to better separate the object tree (interpretation) and the XML tree (representation). But the recent merge of his work made it clear that he potentially made things much worse! Abhishek's patch introduces these functions: void attach(SPObject *object, SPObject *prev); void reorder(SPObject *prev); void detach(SPObject *object); long long int getIntAttribute(char const *key, long long int def); unsigned getPosition(); gchar const * getAttribute(gchar const *name,SPException *ex=0) const; void appendChild(Inkscape::XML::Node *child); void addChild(Inkscape::XML::Node *child,Inkscape::XML::Node *prev=0); void setKeyValue(unsigned int key, gchar const *value); void setAttribute(gchar const *key, gchar const *value, SPException *ex=0); void readAttr(gchar const *key); void removeAttribute(gchar const *key, SPException *ex=0); bool storeAsDouble( gchar const *key, double *val ) const; All of those are public and operate directly on the XML tree - exactly the type of operation that the project was supposed to reduce! What do we do now? At the least, all the functions listed above should be made private. Regards, Krzysztof

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[website] website structure
by Ian Caldwell 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Hello, Also send on behalf of "Steven M. Ottens" Hi all, I've been pondering the site structure using the three focus groups, while keeping in mind that our audience is diverse and groups overlap. To put it simply: New users want to: -know what inkscape is -get it -know how to get started Existing users want to: -get new versions of inkscape -get add-ons -learn how to use it -get involved (user/designer style) -get the latest news Developers want to: -get source code -learn how to develop -get involved (developer style) -get the latest news Note that all three groups want to 'get something', all three want to know/learn something and two want to get involved somehow and get updated with the latest news. Also getting involved means different things to different people. Also the current distinction between developers and community is not entirely valid in my opinion. For a starter, developers are a part of the community :) Also bugtracking is both important for users and developers. In stead of focussing on the different target groups, I'd like to focus on the different activities. When someone visits the site, (s)he will not first think of him/herself as a developer, user, etc. (S)he will have a specific need which (s)he wants to be met. So instead of forcing visitors to think which role they fit, I'd like to meet their questions head on. So my suggestion is to make these 6 toplevels for the menustructure: -*about* (which should meet questions on what it is, who work on/with it, what can you do with it, what can it do) -*downloads* (which should answer all questions relating getting inkscape and related resources) -*learn* (which should answer questions on how to get started, use it and develop for it) -*get* *involved* (which should answer questions on how to get involved in all possible ways) -*news* (which should show what's happening in the community, the development, the wiki) -*donate* (which should bring us money ;) The frontpage should apart from the 6 menu-items provide a direct link to the download which is appropriate for the visitors OS and underneath an 'other version link' which links to the main downloads page, similar to firefox approach. Also it should provide direct access to 'overview' 'features' 'gallery' 'getting started/learning resources' and show the latest news. This probably leaves us some space to be filled on the frontpage. I've not yet come up with appropriate extra content, so if there are any suggestions, please let me know. One question I have is the integration of the wiki within the main site. Obviously being a wiki, we cannot or should not force the same structure as the site. Though different parts of the wiki are interesting in different places in the menu structure. It would be good if we create and link to main wikipages on different subjects. For instance wiki/learn as a starting page for all learning-related wikicontent. This way we can integrate the wiki more into the main site. The rest of the menu structure would then look something like this (note that it is most likely not complete, I'm typing this on the move so don't have access to the website and wiki to check for missing bits): ABOUT -overview -screenshots -gallery -cases -features -supporters/sponsors (?) DOWNLOADS -windows -linux -mac -other -source -addons (palettes, plugins etc) -open clip art (extern) LEARN -books -tutorials -videos -FAQ -wiki/learn -dev docs -user docs GET INVOLVED -forums -mailinglist -bugtracker -irc/jabber -wiki -roadmap -developer -designer NEWS -news -releases -contests -meetings -wiki/recent DONATE (nothing under here, just a direct link to the donations page) I am aware this structure is quite different from the current and as such it might take quite some effort to relocate current content in the new structure. As stated before I haven't looked to each individual page in the current site and checked if it has a proper place in the new structure. I haven't thought very hard and deep on how to integrate the wiki into the main site, other than the linking in the menu, this might need some more thought. Also it is a proposal so I'm open for feedback, comments and improvements. Regards, Steven

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Embed Python script engine
by Yu-Chung Wang 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Is the link become available in the WIKI? We are actually working on adding scene and animation editor into the inkscape. This will make the inkscape become an environment similiar to the Abobe Flash. So far, we have finished some prototype to edit multi page SVG file and some simple animation support. So far, in the integration is only at the Node and NodeObserver level, therefore, its relationship between inkscape and python VM is quite weak. However, in order to make it easier to use, we need to bind more and more functions into the python. This will make the binding easier to be broken from version to version. This is why we want to make it into the code base. The other possibility is not to put the python into the code base directly. Instead, define an binding interface which should be used by any system like ours so that we can develop our stuff outside the code base safely. You can decide to include our stuff or not until the technical issue is clear. >>I'll list out a few more details on this in the wiki, so that the reoccurring discussion can be captured.

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0.48 trunk compilation bug&fix, launchpad questions
by Robin Palotai 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Hello, Sorry in advance, this is a composite-topic email. 1) Launchpad question - am I ok so far? Being new to bzr/launchpad I'm a bit confused yet. What I would liked to do is to branch the 0.48.x branch and apply/rewrite some of my former patches to there (not the 0.49.x, because unfortunately my libs seem to be too old to compile it). I branched lp:inkscape/0.48.x, and also pushed it to a custom branch atlp:~palotai-robin/inkscape/0.48.x . Now at the bottom of the launchpad page, it tells that it is "stacked on lp:inkscape", where I would expect it to be lp:inkscape/0.48.x. Is this ok? 2) Some compilation errors with the 0.48.x trunk I used 'configure --disable-lcms', gcc 4.3.2, x86, Debian Linux (lenny), glib 2.22.4, glibmm 2.16.4, gtk 2.12.12, gtkmm 2.12.7 (according to the package manager). 2A) The error mentioned here: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.inkscape.devel/35338 Solution was to include "io/sys.h" in color-profile.cpp 2B) Gtk::IconTheme::load_icon doesn't have default third parameter on my system, while inkscape uses the two-param version at two places: interface.cpp <http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.inkscape.devel/35338>- Glib::RefPtr<Gdk::Pixbuf> pb = iconTheme->load_icon( it->second, *it2 ); + Glib::RefPtr<Gdk::Pixbuf> pb = iconTheme->load_icon( it->second, *it2, (Gtk::IconLookupFlags) 0 ); ui/widget/dock-item.cpp - Glib::RefPtr<Gdk::Pixbuf> pb = iconTheme->load_icon( it->second, *it2 ); + Glib::RefPtr<Gdk::Pixbuf> pb = iconTheme->load_icon( it->second, *it2, (Gtk::IconLookupFlags) 0 ); 3) How do I commit these patches? Having these fixed, what is the expected lp/bzr procedure for create bug/commit patch? 4) Is adding new features (those I originally wanted) on the 0.48.x branch is in vain? If it is a corrections only branch, then maybe it is in vain. But I can't compile for 0.49, so maybe creating the patches for 0.48 would make it easier to merge them in 0.49 eventually. Thank you, Robin

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Firefox corrupts svg files !
by Ivan Louette 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

I send this message here because they concern settings files created for Inkscape and I think everybody concerned by svg creation could be concerned. Some time ago I placed some svg filters files on OpenClipart and more recently I heard from users that they didn't work despite all my tests were positive. Yesterday I discovered that following the way you take to download them they work or not. The problem seems to be specific to Firefox and doesn't occur with other browsers (tried with Safari, Opera and Chrome). Here are the address of the two files : The first one is an Inkscape template which activates filters for background images or objects : http://www.openclipart.org/detail/92749 This second one contains color filters decicated to work on background object or images (place any shape on top of a picture and apply the filters to this shape) : http://www.openclipart.org/detail/92977 Here is the problem : - When you click on the "Download SVG" button on the OpenClipart page it opens the svg in Firefox. Then, if you save this SVG file displayed in Firefox and try to work with it in Inkscape it doesn't work because Firefox changed something in the file. - If you right click on the "Download SVG" button and do "Save target as", then the file download unchanged on your disk and all works as expected. Could somebody send the bug to Firefox ? Thanks for your attention, ivan

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] r9946 build failure
by ~suv 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

Issues with revision 9946: <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/trunk/revision/9946> On 12/12/10 11:39, ~suv wrote: > CXX dialogs/spellcheck.o > dialogs/spellcheck.cpp: In function ‘void sp_spellcheck_accept(GObject*, > GObject*)’: > dialogs/spellcheck.cpp:783: error: ‘SPDocumentUndo’ has not been declared > make[3]: *** [dialogs/spellcheck.o] Error 1 > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make: *** [all] Error 2 System: osx, gcc 4.2.1, gtk 2.22.1, glib 2.26.1, gtkmm 2.22.0 sanguivor (on irc) confirms same error (no system info provided). houz (on irc) has no build failure, but reports that 'File > Open' no longer works with r9946 (file chooser freezes when 'Open' is pressed): System: debian, gcc 4.4.5, gtk 2.20.1, glib 2.25.11, gtkmm 2.20.3 ~suv

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(no subject)
by John Cliff 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

http://sportseventmerchandise.com/images/gr.php

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Update W3C tests
by Tavmjong Bah 11 Dec '10

11 Dec '10

Hello, The W3C SVG working group is in the final stages of getting the SVG 1.1 "Second Edition" out the door. The test suit has been greatly expanded as part of this work. Before the standard can be finalized, each test in the suite must have at least two SVG renderers pass the test. I have run Inkscape via the command line over the suite. At the moment there are 440 approved tests (this may change in the next few weeks). The results are: OK (PASS): 166 PARTIAL: 23 FAIL: 251 Most of the fails are due to non-supported features: No DOM, animation, interactivity support: ~160 No SVG font support: ~20 Still, there is quite a bit of room for improvement, some probably trivial. I've prepared web pages for the tests. They can be found at: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/W3C_SVG_1.1F2/harness/htmlInkscapeApproved… Tav

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website design bounty
by Alexandre Prokoudine 10 Dec '10

10 Dec '10

Hi, I have a spare hardcopy of recently released book "inkscape 0.48. Essentials for Web Designers" and I propose to make it a bounty for winner of the website design contest. Could anybody please adjust announcement text? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] website
by Steven Ottens 09 Dec '10

09 Dec '10

Hi All, Since I've volunteered and been drafted as a Ux/UI guy for the redesign of the website a couple of remarks and questions on the idea for the new website. For me and probably also for the designers as well it would be nice to define who the visitors of the new website will be. I came up with these three main groups. -new users -users (artists/designers etc) -developers These three groups have different needs and expectations from the site. This is my view on their needs and expectations, feel free to shoot holes into them/enhance them. New users The new user group has been addressed by the 'Big Issue' talk on blenderguru. Short version: -they need to know what it is, what it does and where to get it. -frontpage is their first introduction to Inkscape and as such should be focussed towards their need (Short explanation, download button/link, 'learn' button/link) and visually attractive Users They already have inkscape, they visit the site for a couple of reasons. -Check for/download new version (put version number on the download button/link) -Learn how to use inkscape/improve their skills through tutorials -Get help with (technical) issues with inkscape -Showcase their work -Get more resources like scripts/plugins/palettes etc. -... Developers They already know inkscape and like to improve it. So they visit the site because: -They like to know how to get the sourcecode, compile it etc -File/solve bugs -...? (I'm no developer so help me out :) The reason I ask this, is because knowing who is using the site and why makes it easier to design a site-structure. The current mind-map of the site, although very complete doesn't provide a very balanced site-structure. 'Community Frontpage' is 3 levels deep, 'Press and references' is one level deep and 'Open clip art' is not even part of the site, though all three are shown as equal children of the frontpage. Having a beautiful and consistent design, isn't enough. A logical and short site-structure is important as well; having relevant subsections close to each other is key. Love to hear your thoughts. Having the discussion now makes it possible to incorporate the outcome in the winning design from day one. Regards Steven -- Senior UxDesigner

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Inkscape Tango/Art Libre icons.
by David Bolack 08 Dec '10

08 Dec '10

Without getting on any particular nerves about Inkscape and this Icon Set, I have a question. :) Looking at the wiki page here, http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Themable_icons, it appears that ya'll have vastly extended the Art Libre set. Have these additions been contributed back into Art Libre (the page for that looks stale) and if not are what license are they under?

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patches from Adonis
by Alexandre Prokoudine 06 Dec '10

06 Dec '10

Hi, There's probably a good dozen of merge requests from Adonis Papaderos over last couple of weeks, all with bug fixes, some already applied. Can anybody say if the pacthes are good so we could suggest commit access as per rules? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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Inkscape 0.48.1?
by Josh Andler 06 Dec '10

06 Dec '10

Hey all! Any blockers left? Things look pretty ripe right now imho and it seems like momentum has slowed. Better question... any opposition to moving forward? Cheers, Josh

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape-devel Digest, Vol 55, Issue 2
by Daniel Krause 03 Dec '10

03 Dec '10

Hello all: I've not been active for a while, but I wanted to begin again. My focus is the Technical Drafting portion of Inkscape. I've put together my thoughts in this document. I would love some feed back. https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1hSD8lW0Nv3Z3BHFXXg9vDsBI4U0CaWw1kP… I'm a bit selfish, as I am sick and tired of shelling out hundreds and thousands of dollars for the latest and greatest drafting software every few years. Having Inkscape be able to replace AutoCAD and Vectorworks would be the greatest gift I could every receive. You should all know that you have made a fantastic piece of software here. Thanks! -Dan www.danielkrausedesign.com 302 598 4162 On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:17 PM, < inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Send Inkscape-devel mailing list submissions to > inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > inkscape-devel-owner(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Inkscape-devel digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Notebooks in internal extensions > (J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...) > 2. Re : Notebooks in internal extensions (Nicolas Dufour) > 3. Re: Re : Notebooks in internal extensions > (J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...) > 4. Re: website (Jaros?aw Foksa) > 5. Re: website (Ian Caldwell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:55:26 +0100 > From: <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Notebooks in internal extensions > To: <nicoduf@...48...>, <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: > < > EEEAA170F9750D449D15AEF17CE7ED6D0345AA03@...1579...> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nicolas Dufour [mailto:nicoduf@...48...] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 15:02 > > To: Inkscape Devel List > > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Notebooks in internal extensions > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm currently trying to use a 3 tabs notebook in an internal > > extension (a filter with some options and two color > > selectors), but Inkscape crashes as soon as an > > ext->get_param_xxx function is called from the filter's code. > > Everything > > ext->works > > fine if I remove the notebook from the filter UI code. > > > > These functions use the parameters list of the extension (see > > extension/extension.cpp, line 427+) to return the requested > > value. The problem is that this list, which is also used to > > create the UI, only contains the first level parameters, and > > when using a notebook, the notebook's parameters only (but > > not what's inside it). > > ParamNotebook (extension/param/notebook.cpp, line 64+) has > > it's own lists (one for each page), which are also used to > > create the pages' UI, and contain all the parameters that > > should be (but currently are not) accessible from the > > extension's get_param functions in order to make notebooks > > work as expected. > > > > Since it's not possible to add the notebook's pages > > parameters to the extension's ones (it would break the UI), I > > plan to add a new private merged list in Extension::Extension > > and a public Extension::add_param function to allow > > parameters addition from the notebook code. > > > > Could an extension expert (Ted, Johan?) advise me? > > Hi Nicolas, > Perhaps I can have a look at it this evening. I think the fix would be > to have the get_param functions do something like a > notebookparam->get_param if the extension's parameter is a > ParamNotebook. (right?) > > Ciao, > Johan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:29:03 +0000 (GMT) > From: Nicolas Dufour <nicoduf@...48...> > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Re : Notebooks in internal extensions > To: J.B.C.Engelen@...1578..., inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <958479.56148.qm@...2088...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Johan, > > Thanks for your answer! > > > > De : "J.B.C.Engelen@...1578..." <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> > > Perhaps I can have a look at it this evening. I think the fix would be > > to have the get_param functions do something like a > > notebookparam->get_param if the extension's parameter is a > > ParamNotebook. (right?) > > It was my first guess, but how do you find the parameter's type from its > name > (there's no "get_param_type" function or public "type" var in parameter.cpp > and > notebook.cpp)? > > Regards, > -- > Nicolas > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:46:45 +0100 > From: <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re : Notebooks in internal extensions > To: <nicoduf@...48...>, <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: > < > EEEAA170F9750D449D15AEF17CE7ED6D0345AB6C@...1579...> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nicolas Dufour [mailto:nicoduf@...48...] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:29 > > To: Engelen, J.B.C. (Johan); inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Re : Notebooks in internal extensions > > > > Hi Johan, > > > > Thanks for your answer! > > > > > > > De : "J.B.C.Engelen@...1578..." <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> > > > Perhaps I can have a look at it this evening. I think > > the fix would > > > be to have the get_param functions do something like a > > > notebookparam->get_param if the extension's parameter is a > > > ParamNotebook. (right?) > > > > It was my first guess, but how do you find the parameter's > > type from its name (there's no "get_param_type" function or > > public "type" var in parameter.cpp and notebook.cpp)? > > >From the top of my head I can think up two solutions: > - Make a virtual get_sub_param function in Extension::Parameter that > does nothing. And override that method in Extension::ParamNotebook. > - Or (ugly) do dynamic type cast to check for param type > ("dynamic_cast<>") > > I'd go for the first option, and rewrite Extension::param_shared (and > rename to get_param). > I find the method somewhat strange. Seems better to me, to rewrite it > without using recursion: > (not my best piece of code, but I hope the idea is clear) > > Parameter * > Extension::get_param (const gchar * name) > { > if (name == NULL) { > throw Extension::param_not_exist(); > } > if (this->parameters == NULL) { > // the list of parameters is empty > throw Extension::param_not_exist(); > } > > for (GSList * list = this->parameters; list != NULL; list = > g_slist_next(list)) { > Parameter * param = static_cast<Parameter*>(list->data); > if (!strcmp(param->name(), name)) { > return param; > } else { > Parameter * subparam = param->get_param(name); > if (subparam) { > return subparam; > } > } > } > > // if execution reaches here, no parameter matching 'name' was found > throw Extension::param_not_exist(); > } > > > Then for example get_param_string would become: > const gchar * > Extension::get_param_string (const gchar * name, const SPDocument * doc, > const Inkscape::XML::Node * node) > { > Parameter * param; > > param = get_param(name); > return param->get_string(doc, node); > } > > > > Extension::Parameter::get_param(const gchar * /*name*/) > { > return NULL; > } > > > Extension::ParamNotebook::get_param(const gchar * /*name*/) > { > here a loop similar to Extension::get_param > } > > > Hope these pieces of (pseudo)code help, > Johan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 19:28:56 +0100 > From: Jaros?aw Foksa <jarek@...2504...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website > To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <AANLkTinwrFBDQ3jv8CDGdFRp4cCjsjL0g7xu-Ows5cxD@...401...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I remember that back in 2008 we had simillar discussions - Chris was > advocating Django, I wanted Drupal, there was a lot of talk but we > ended up with the old site. > > Development Seed (http://developmentseed.org/) was offering volunteer > work on new inkscape.org site few months ago. Is this proposal still > actual? They are one of the best shops you could find - perhaps it > would be best to let them lead the development if they agree so. > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Ian Caldwell <inchosting@...400...> > wrote: > > hello, > > > > It's been a good long while since I've emailed the mailing list I am a > part > > of the server management involving inkscape and have been for > approximately > > 4+ years. I am writing you today for 2 reasons. > > > > Our current site is terrible, I'm sorry but there is no chance of just > > brushing over it. I know there have been a fair number of people in the > past > > 2 years who have submitted website mockup ideas and we've had contests > but > > no one has ever followed through. Which I'll take partial blame for it. > > Things are just scattered every which way > > I wanted to update you on the status of the Test suite, Osuosl is > currently > > in the process of setting up the ability to run test suites so that we > can > > test the SVG building more?efficiently. So stay tuned for more info on > this > > in the near future. > > > > Anyway back to problem 1. Here's how I think we can best solve this > problem. > > We're going to break the website into different categories and duties. > > > > UI (mockups) (*ARTIST*/PROGRAMMERS*) > > > > Ability to make mockups of how you think the website should look. > > After we pick yours we will request to see the top couple in HTML/CSS > > > > Artwork for the website (*ARTIST*) > > > > Ability to develop / sharpen logos as well as various buttons etc as > needed > > > > Drupal Modules (*PROGRAMMERS*) > > > > Skills required > > > > Knowledge of Mysql/PHP/JS and HTML > > Knowledge or ability to learn how drupal works > > > > Documentation (*WRITERS*) > > > > Skills > > > > Moderate knowledge and ability to update and port existing content over > to > > the new site. > > > > Translation > > > > We need people who specialize in various languages to port content once > > completed into the various languages. > > > > So what's wrong with the current design? a lot, it's way too cluttered > and > > disorganized not to mention you click wiki you go to a whole different > > navigation and sub site. That is just a pain to deal with as a user. So > if > > you have skills in 1 of the above 5 categories, please contact me or the > > list directly and we'll assemble the a team and get this going! let me > know > > what you think.... > > Thanks, > > Ian "Inc" C. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App & Earn a Chance To Win $500! > > Tap into the largest installed PC base & get more eyes on your game by > > optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the > > Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for > grabs. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:17:16 -0800 > From: Ian Caldwell <inchosting@...400...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website > To: Jaros?aw Foksa <jarek@...2504...> > Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <AANLkTin7aCd=GVqPrC7On8fD7ztTyndYcsa5wr5yTdDY@...401...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > yup, completely understandable. I have contacted the people from > developmentseed that originally offered to help with the new website prior > to sending this email and I have yet to hear anything back..... so I'm not > real hopeful and it's time for us to make a move. So we're starting with > mockups. If you have a backway to contact them and they're still willing > we're more than willing... > Thanks, > Ian > > 2010/12/1 Jaros?aw Foksa <jarek@...2504...> > > > I remember that back in 2008 we had simillar discussions - Chris was > > advocating Django, I wanted Drupal, there was a lot of talk but we > > ended up with the old site. > > > > Development Seed (http://developmentseed.org/) was offering volunteer > > work on new inkscape.org site few months ago. Is this proposal still > > actual? They are one of the best shops you could find - perhaps it > > would be best to let them lead the development if they agree so. > > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Ian Caldwell <inchosting@...400...> > > wrote: > > > hello, > > > > > > It's been a good long while since I've emailed the mailing list I am a > > part > > > of the server management involving inkscape and have been for > > approximately > > > 4+ years. I am writing you today for 2 reasons. > > > > > > Our current site is terrible, I'm sorry but there is no chance of just > > > brushing over it. I know there have been a fair number of people in the > > past > > > 2 years who have submitted website mockup ideas and we've had contests > > but > > > no one has ever followed through. Which I'll take partial blame for it. > > > Things are just scattered every which way > > > I wanted to update you on the status of the Test suite, Osuosl is > > currently > > > in the process of setting up the ability to run test suites so that we > > can > > > test the SVG building more efficiently. So stay tuned for more info on > > this > > > in the near future. > > > > > > Anyway back to problem 1. Here's how I think we can best solve this > > problem. > > > We're going to break the website into different categories and duties. > > > > > > UI (mockups) (*ARTIST*/PROGRAMMERS*) > > > > > > Ability to make mockups of how you think the website should look. > > > After we pick yours we will request to see the top couple in HTML/CSS > > > > > > Artwork for the website (*ARTIST*) > > > > > > Ability to develop / sharpen logos as well as various buttons etc as > > needed > > > > > > Drupal Modules (*PROGRAMMERS*) > > > > > > Skills required > > > > > > Knowledge of Mysql/PHP/JS and HTML > > > Knowledge or ability to learn how drupal works > > > > > > Documentation (*WRITERS*) > > > > > > Skills > > > > > > Moderate knowledge and ability to update and port existing content over > > to > > > the new site. > > > > > > Translation > > > > > > We need people who specialize in various languages to port content once > > > completed into the various languages. > > > > > > So what's wrong with the current design? a lot, it's way too cluttered > > and > > > disorganized not to mention you click wiki you go to a whole different > > > navigation and sub site. That is just a pain to deal with as a user. So > > if > > > you have skills in 1 of the above 5 categories, please contact me or > the > > > list directly and we'll assemble the a team and get this going! let me > > know > > > what you think.... > > > Thanks, > > > Ian "Inc" C. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App & Earn a Chance To Win $500! > > > Tap into the largest installed PC base & get more eyes on your game by > > > optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the > > > Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for > > grabs. > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App & Earn a Chance To Win $500! > > Tap into the largest installed PC base & get more eyes on your game by > > optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the > > Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for > grabs. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > >

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Notebooks in internal extensions
by Nicolas Dufour 03 Dec '10

03 Dec '10

Hello, I'm currently trying to use a 3 tabs notebook in an internal extension (a filter with some options and two color selectors), but Inkscape crashes as soon as an ext->get_param_xxx function is called from the filter's code. Everything works fine if I remove the notebook from the filter UI code. These functions use the parameters list of the extension (see extension/extension.cpp, line 427+) to return the requested value. The problem is that this list, which is also used to create the UI, only contains the first level parameters, and when using a notebook, the notebook's parameters only (but not what's inside it). ParamNotebook (extension/param/notebook.cpp, line 64+) has it's own lists (one for each page), which are also used to create the pages' UI, and contain all the parameters that should be (but currently are not) accessible from the extension's get_param functions in order to make notebooks work as expected. Since it's not possible to add the notebook's pages parameters to the extension's ones (it would break the UI), I plan to add a new private merged list in Extension::Extension and a public Extension::add_param function to allow parameters addition from the notebook code. Could an extension expert (Ted, Johan?) advise me? Regards. -- Nicolas

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website
by Ian Caldwell 02 Dec '10

02 Dec '10

hello, It's been a good long while since I've emailed the mailing list I am a part of the server management involving inkscape and have been for approximately 4+ years. I am writing you today for 2 reasons. 1. Our current site is terrible, I'm sorry but there is no chance of just brushing over it. I know there have been a fair number of people in the past 2 years who have submitted website mockup ideas and we've had contests but no one has ever followed through. Which I'll take partial blame for it. Things are just scattered every which way 2. I wanted to update you on the status of the Test suite, Osuosl is currently in the process of setting up the ability to run test suites so that we can test the SVG building more efficiently. So stay tuned for more info on this in the near future. Anyway back to problem 1. Here's how I think we can best solve this problem. We're going to break the website into different categories and duties. 1. UI (mockups) (*ARTIST*/PROGRAMMERS*) - Ability to make mockups of how you think the website should look. - After we pick yours we will request to see the top couple in HTML/CSS 2. Artwork for the website (*ARTIST*) - Ability to develop / sharpen logos as well as various buttons etc as needed 3. Drupal Modules (*PROGRAMMERS*) - Skills required - Knowledge of Mysql/PHP/JS and HTML - Knowledge or ability to learn how drupal works 4. Documentation (*WRITERS*) - Skills - Moderate knowledge and ability to update and port existing content over to the new site. 5. Translation - We need people who specialize in various languages to port content once completed into the various languages. So what's wrong with the current design? a lot, it's way too cluttered and disorganized not to mention you click wiki you go to a whole different navigation and sub site. That is just a pain to deal with as a user. So if you have skills in 1 of the above 5 categories, please contact me or the list directly and we'll assemble the a team and get this going! let me know what you think.... Thanks, Ian "Inc" C.

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Website redesign discussion (purely the aesthetic talk)
by Josh Andler 02 Dec '10

02 Dec '10

Hey All, I had seen a well done comparison of the Blender website with the alternative commercial tools websites by Andrew Price. I was putting together a similar comparison for vector apps but the websites vary a bit more and reading what he had done is sufficient enough for people to get the point. I think that his analysis is just as valid for Inkscape's website too. Visit http://www.blenderguru.com/the-big-issues/ and do a quick search for "marketing" and scroll down just a little to see what his observations were. At this point I have to say that we should really follow a similar approach for our redesign too. Following are the links to a few commercial alternatives in the vector editor category, to compare their sites to ours. http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/ http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1281109933608 http://www.xara.com/us/products/designer/ http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/design_overview.aspx My main observation? 3D software is marketed much more nicely and I actually think we should approach the redesign in a similar way. Realistically I think we can be a bit more playful with the design, but we should have something that communicates what inkscape is and what it's capable of in a better way for non-existing users. What are other people's thoughts? If most people think the "similar to 3d apps websites" approach is good, I will post something to deviantart requesting designs there too. Cheers, Josh

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] website
by Chris Morgan 01 Dec '10

01 Dec '10

See for yourself by comparing the designs. Things like omitting the sidebar completely, doing the footer menu well, doing the primary/secondary links ideally, squeezing a language selection block into the header - they're mostly *possible* with Drupal, but they don't fit well with the normal design and tend to require some custom PHP code in the template, rather than Just Working. When I say "too hard" I mean that it was too hard for me to do at that point when I was just creating a prototype of it all. Some, like the primary and secondary links, would have come back properly a little later on, but the thing is they require *work* in Drupal, while in Django the system can be designed that way at a lower level, more friendlily. (For example, instead of having a "language block" which is just a fixed block, you can easily have a template which manages the HTML for the block completely). Working with Drupal yourself extensively, you may disagree with me on the "too hard" - but I hope you'll see what I mean, anyway. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Donna Benjamin <donna@...2156...> wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 11:39 +1100, Chris Morgan wrote: > > Some elements in duckgoesoink's design I had changed for > > no good reason other than that in Drupal it would be too hard to do it > > another way. > > Which elements? > > -- > Donna Benjamin - Executive Director > Creative Contingencies - http://cc.com.au > ph +61 3 9326 9985 - mob +61 418 310 414 > open source - facilitation - web services > >

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Mask calculation error.
by Tavmjong Bah 29 Nov '10

29 Nov '10

Hi, I just checked into trunk a fix for Cairo export of masked objects (bug 597974). In tracing the problem I came across another mask related problem. Inkscape is calculating the value of the mask wrong for screen display. The value of the mask is suppose to be calculated using "the luminance-to-alpha coefficients (as defined in the 'feColorMatrix' filter primitive)" on linear RGB values. At the moment, Inkscape is combining the RGB values with equal weight. This leads to a noticeable difference between Inkscape screen display and the Cairo based exports, as well as display in browsers. I am guessing that sRGB color values are being used in addition, although I don't see a noticeable difference when comparing Inkscape PDF output or corrected screen display output with Batik or Firefox rendering. The code to fix is in nr-arena-item.cpp at line 518 and 536... but as this is speed critical code, I don't know the best way of doing this. Can someone who is familiar with nr-pixops, etc. have a look? This is the current code: m = NR_PREMUL_112 (s[0] + s[1] + s[2], s[3]); d[0] = FAST_DIV_ROUND < 3 * 255 > (m); This is the desired code equivalent: d[0] = (int)((s[0]*0.2125 + s[1]*0.7154 + s[2]*0.0721) * s[3]/255.0); Tav

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re ndering arcs - Bug 653315
by Alvin Penner 29 Nov '10

29 Nov '10

Hi, I wonder if anyone could point me to the general location of the code that is responsible for converting a circular arc to its corresponding cubic Bezier approximations for the case where the arc has no sodipodi attributes. I know that the file src\sp-ellipse.cpp does this if sodipodi attributes are present, but it appears that the non-sodipodi case is handled separately. This is in reference to LP Bug 653315, which points out some rendering problems in this case. tia, Alvin -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/rendering-arcs---Bug-653315-tp29894997p29894997.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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makerbot competition
by john cliff 27 Nov '10

27 Nov '10

Hey all, Saw this on the makerbot blog and thought it may be of interest to some of our community: http://blog.makerbot.com/2010/11/26/four-ways-to-win-a-makerbot-unicorn-pen… Cheers Simarilius

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Fwd: [Merge] lp:~ado-papas/inkscape/bug_669537 into lp:inkscape
by Jasper van de Gronde 27 Nov '10

27 Nov '10

Is anyone looking into these fixes? If they do indeed fix bugs it would be a shame to let them go to waste. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Merge] lp:~ado-papas/inkscape/bug_669537 into lp:inkscape Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:11:52 -0000 From: Adonis Papaderos <ado.papas@...1244...> Reply-To: mp+41851@...2499... To: mp+41851@...2499... Adonis Papaderos has proposed merging lp:~ado-papas/inkscape/bug_669537 into lp:inkscape. Requested reviews: Inkscape Developers (inkscape.dev) Related bugs: #665316 crash when saving after changing stroke width (no focus-out-event) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/665316 #669537 crash when activating "snap to path" mode after changing stroke width (no focus-out-event) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/669537 Fix Bug #669537 - crash when activating "snap to path" mode after changing stroke width (no focus-out-event) -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ado-papas/inkscape/bug_669537/+merge/41851 Your team Inkscape Developers is requested to review the proposed merge of lp:~ado-papas/inkscape/bug_669537 into lp:inkscape.

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NEW: books section
by Alexandre Prokoudine 24 Nov '10

24 Nov '10

Hi, Since the SSL bug is fixed, the new Books section on the website is finally available: http://inkscape.org/books/index.php This is only first version of the section, I intend to give it polish and add more books and then keep updated. The HTML code is quite horrible, I'm not proud of it :) Feel free to improve it. The section is localizable the very same way it is done for other pages. I'm not sure however that it makes sense doing this now that we have so many Django programmers willing to do an entirely new website. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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Embed Python script engine
by Thinker K.F. Li 23 Nov '10

23 Nov '10

Hi all, A week ago, I had post a message about adding a dock item with Python script in Inkscape window. Actually, I had embedded Python script engine to Inkscape successfully in our Inkscape branch (pybind). It works with low latency compared to the extension interface provided by Inkscape now. It is also more powerful than what the extension interface is now. We make it for another project. With this Inkscape branch (pybind), we can add a dock item, or any widget around canvas. We even create a timeline GTK widget with Python and pack it just under the SVG canvas. With this branch, some functions, of Inkscape, that is not CPU-intensive can be implemented with Python script. So, I want to know if it is possible to merge our Inkscape branch (pybind) back to the trunk.

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How to include examples in an Extension?
by Pieter Barendrecht 23 Nov '10

23 Nov '10

Hi all, I'm currently working on an expansion of the L-System Extension (just for fun, getting to know XML and Python). I implemented an extra parameter "Factor", such that the fractal scales with each level. More info about this at the Inkscape Forums: http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6411 The thing is, I would like to include some examples in the extension. I thought of a drop-down menu (an "enum" type), with entries like "Koch Snowflake" and "Pythagoras Tree". |<param name="Examples" type="enum" _gui-text="Examples:"> <item value="Koch_Snowflake">Koch Snowflake</item> <item value="Pythagoras_Tree">Pythagoras Tree</item> </param>| When the user clicks on such an entry, appropriate values should be assigned to the fields (e.g. Axiom="F", Rules="F=F+F+F", Factor="0.5", etc.). I wondered whether this is possible using XML, or the Relax NG schema language? So to be clear, the GUI-part isn't a problem. The UI looks like this at the moment: http://www.redpanda.nl/ExamplesInkscape.png However, the "auto-assign" function needs to be implemented yet. Thanks, Pieter

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Feature idea: shapes in node-edit mode
by Bryan Hoyt | Brush Technology 21 Nov '10

21 Nov '10

I was just editing some paths in Inkscape and found myself wanting to add a circle to the path. Admittedly I could achieve this right now, fairly simply, just by creating a circle separately, converting it to a path, and then using "Combine paths" to combine both paths. But that's a bit of a process, and it requires switch modes a number of times, and finding a few commands hidden in the menus (or knowing the keyboard shortcuts). If I could just click on the circle tool, and draw a circle which was automatically combined with the current path I'm editing, that would save a lot of time. Presumably if I could do it for circles, I could do the same for any shape. One of the most useful scenarios for such a feature is editing clipping paths -- I love how you can edit them directly these days. But to combine any shapes with clipping paths, I currently have to release the clip, do the Combine, then set the clip again. That's sometimes a bit annoying. Of course, sometimes you want to intersect/subtract/add, etc, and then you'd need to go through the process. But for a simple combine, this seems fairly intuitive. I'm not proposing to do it myself (sorry!), but does anyone have any comments on how hard/useful this feature idea would be? - Bryan -- PS. Check out the Brush newsletter: *Subscribe or read our previous newsletters* <http://brush.co.nz/newsletters> Bryan Hoyt, *Web Development Manager* -- Brush Technology *Ph:* +64 3 942 7833 *Mobile:* +64 21 238 7955 *Web:* brush.co.nz

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Plural forms in the node tool
by Krzysztof Kosiński 21 Nov '10

21 Nov '10

Hello I have fixed this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/601719 But now I have second thoughts with regards to putting the fix in 0.48.x branch, since it changes strings. Should I back it out? Regards, Krzysztof

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Removal of mysterious code
by Krzysztof Kosiński 21 Nov '10

21 Nov '10

Going back to this topic. W dniu 9 listopada 2010 11:14 użytkownik Hans Meine <meine@...2314...> napisał: > Furthermore, Qt does not allow additional GUI elements anymore. While I am > sure many people miss this (like I did, for example), there are good arguments > for this, too: The one that immediately recall is that these GUI elements are > easily overlooked. After all, you get one of the dialogs you see most often, > and there's usually only a small difference this time (i.e. such a checkbox). We have one very important thing which depends on adding extra elements to the dialog, namely the preview window. Removing this would be a bad idea. I'll try to capture some screenshots that compare how the dialog looks in its native form and its GTK form on Windows. Regards, Krzysztof

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Node Tool Regressions(?)
by Tavmjong Bah 18 Nov '10

18 Nov '10

Hi, In updating my book, I've done a comprehensive test of the node tool. Here is a list of regressions I've found (a couple where reported earlier today). 1. Clicking on the background with a node selected deselects the path rather than the node. 2. Page Up/Down no longer adds/removes nodes when cursor is hovered over a selected node (mouse wheel still works). 3. Node selection via mouse wheel swaps with/without Shift key functionality (spatial distance vs. distance along path). 4. Shift no longer prevents grabbing the path when doing a rubber-band selection of nodes. 5. Shift no longer disables snapping of nodes while dragging nodes. 6. Space bar no longer drops a copy of the nodes while dragging. 7. . or > expands only one handle rather than both, while Right-Ctrl . or > expands both. Ditto with Alt (rotating handles is correct with respect to Left/Right Ctrl/Alt keys). 8. Node-sculpting pressure sensitivity with tablet lost. Are all these bugs or are some feature changes? Tav

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Inkscape bitmap question
by Kris De Gussem 18 Nov '10

18 Nov '10

Hi all I stumbled upon a few issues during the translation of the tips tutorial. In the preferences you'll find the option "Resolution for Create Bitmap Copy:" in the Bitmaps tab. It does not seem to be related to the "Bitmap export" dialog... so to what feature is this option relating to? Secondly, the tips tutorial refers to an option for "always importing bitmaps as pattern-filled rectangles" in the Misc tab. However, this option is not present in either the misc, nor the Bitmaps tab in the Preferences. Hence, I'd like to know where to find the option so I can update the tips tutorial. Regards Kris

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Color Gestures Cursors
by Tavmjong Bah 18 Nov '10

18 Nov '10

Hi, The color gesture cursors appear to be missing in v0.47 and v0.48 (the ones with the +/- and H, S, or L). I know that they present translation problems so I am wondering if this is intentional. Tav

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Wacom + browser plugin active.
by Mark T 16 Nov '10

16 Nov '10

I've recently been made aware of: http://mura.deviantart.com/ It uses a Wacom plugin in the browser. The plugin is installed with the recent Wacom installer. It did this with my Bamboo Fun Touch. I saw the plugin in the browser list of plugins a while back. There were little clues at the time what/where. The above site is a major clarification. Devel relevance for Inkscape could be use of the plugin to resolve driver issues? All best. MarkT -- (+61 4) 0679 5734 :: skype: govirtual.com.au :: チェックアウトが、Jingle だ! ::It's a Jingle Out There!

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape 0.48.1?
by ~suv 15 Nov '10

15 Nov '10

[ back to the list ;) ] On 15/11/10 11:15, Tavmjong Bah wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 08:28 +0100, ~suv wrote: >> On 4/11/10 05:35, ~suv wrote: >>> On 4/11/10 04:37, Josh Andler wrote: >>> >>>> Any blockers left? Things look pretty ripe right now imho and it seems >>>> like momentum has slowed. Better question... any opposition to moving >>>> forward? > > One more minor things... > > It appears that clicking on the background when a node is selected with > the node tool no longer just deselects the node but deselects the path. > This is a change in behavior from 0.47 where the first click deselected > the node leaving the path selected and the second click deselected the > path. IIRC this has come up before and is related to the multi-path editing feature of the new node tool, but I'm not sure about that. ~suv

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Enable background please !
by Ivan Louette 13 Nov '10

13 Nov '10

I suggest we make background enabled by default in templates in next builds (perhaps to late for 0.48.1 but definitely possible and easy for devel versions). Regards, ivan

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Wacom Enabled = Mouse Wheel Scrolling Broken?
by Tavmjong Bah 12 Nov '10

12 Nov '10

Hi, Has anybody else noticed that in v0.48 when a Wacom tablet is enabled via the Input Devices dialog that scrolling using the mouse wheel (even with a different mouse or via the edge of a trackpad) no longer works? Tav

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Re : [Inkscape-translator] What a big chang!
by Nicolas Dufour 11 Nov '10

11 Nov '10

Hi, > De : Masato Hashimoto <cabezon.hashimoto@...400...> > In 0.48.x branch-r9714, POTFILE.in is updated and it seems to affect > all of existing translations. > As for ja.po, It was completed expect for unimplemented features but > there are 88 fuzzy and 72 untranslated strings after the commit. > > If it's necessary changing, please notify us. I don't know why POTFILE.in was updated (probably to clean it), but it was not a good idea because the generate_POTFILES.sh script is not up to date and 1. forgets some files 2. adds some unused files (mainly experimental LPEs) that were previously removed or commented. Anyway, as this is a bugfix release, there should be no string change, and AFAIKT there's nothing to do for the translators in the 0.48.x branch. Of course you can still update your strings (if the translation is not 100% finished or if you need correct it), but please don't update your po file with the new POTFILE.in. Regards, -- Nicolas

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NEW: QR code
by bulia byak 09 Nov '10

09 Nov '10

Inkscape now has an extension to generate this increasingly popular 2D barcode format (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code). Go to Extensions > Render > Barcode: QR Code. Please report to me any problems. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Removal of mysterious code
by Krzysztof Kosiński 09 Nov '10

09 Nov '10

Please tell me how do you feel about removing the following code: - dom/ - pedro/ - jabber_whiteboard/ - Scripts dialog - Java binding stuff - one of the Find dialogs - native Windows file dialogs Rationale: - dom/ and Java binding are obsolete, the DBus binding should be used instead. For high performance applications there could be a binary plugin API, but I'd prefer to do that once the internal APIs are sane (right now they are far from it). - pedro/ and jabber_whiteboard/ contain Inkboard stuff which doesn't work. - The purpose of the script dialog evades me. To what extent does the scripting capability work? - There are two Find dialogs, one of them is disabled with a notice in the code encouraging to test it. This should be finally resolved. - Native file dialogs are a maintainability nightmare and aren't that much better than GTK dialogs; they are the reason I went for the "embed / link" popup hack for images instead of putting the checkbox in the import dialog. If you have a strong attachment to any of the above, keep in mind those are only suggestions. Regards, Krzysztof

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Corrupted pdf
by Damien Cassou 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

Dear all, it looks like inkscape is creating corrupted pdf files for some of my diagrams (not just one). https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/672686 I've attached a sample file for you to try. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

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Text Pattern Spam
by Tavmjong Bah 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

Hi, I've looked into the cause of pattern spam with text (adjusting a pattern fill inside text creates lots of new pattern entities, each transforming the previous one). I've found a problem that I don't know how to fix. Here is a "trace" of what is happening: When a pattern is adjusted: PatternKnotHolderEntityScale::knot_set() calls sp_item_adjust_pattern() which calls sp_pattern_clone_if_necessary() This routine looks at the hrefcount for the pattern. If it is greater than 1 then a new pattern is created. For shapes hrefcount is always 1 but for text it is 3. One problem I found here is that if a new pattern is needed, sp_repr_css_change_recursive() is called. This adds an unnecessary style attribute to tspans. Bingo, I thought. But changing this to sp_repr_css_change() didn't fix the problem. The hrefcount still ends up at 3. Sometime after returning from PatternKnotHolderEntityScale..., sp_object_href() is called 3 times, setting the hrefcount to 4 (2 in the case of a shape). Somehow this gets reduced by 1 before the next time sp_pattern_clone_if_necessary() is called leaving the hrefcount at 3 (1 in the case of a shape). Can anybody give me a clue as to what is happening? Thanks. Tav

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Add a dock ittem in Inkscape window with Python
by Thinker K.F. Li 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

Hi All, I am glade to tell you that we can add a dock item in the window of Inkscape with Pythn code. The screenshot is attached. You can try it by - bzr branch lp:~thinker-codemud/inkscape/pybind inkscape-pybind - cd inkscape-pybind - configure --with-python - make - PYTHONPATH=`pwd`/src/pybind/tests ./src/inkscape and, then, you will see a test dock item in the window of Inkscape.

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0.48.1 next week
by Alexandre Prokoudine 07 Nov '10

07 Nov '10

Hi, We were planning to release 0.48.1 around October 25. Are there any issues of satble version somebody is working on or planning to work on in the coming days? Do we have Windows and Mac packagers at the ready for that? Do you know of any reason we should postpone this point release? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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Windows Console Options
by Adin Ramirez Rivera 05 Nov '10

05 Nov '10

Hi all, I've been using Inkscape for a while now, and most of the time I'm working from console. So I decide to write as the FAQ say so. So please consider including a console executable (linux like options would be great!) in your official builds. Thanks in advance, keep with the cool work! adin

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[Fwd: [CREATE] Pro bono ads in Libre Graphics Magazine]
by Ted Gould 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Seems that we should have an official "Inkscape Ad" -- perhaps a contest on Deviant Art? --Ted -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: ginger coons <ginger@...2483...> To: create <create@...626...> Subject: [CREATE] Pro bono ads in Libre Graphics Magazine Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 09:38:19 -0400 Hello, Create! More chatter from Libre Graphics Magazine. In issue 1.1, we've reserved nine full pages for pro bono ads. These pages are spaces we want to go to the promotion of F/LOSS and Libre Graphics software and projects. So far, only one is spoken for. Which means that we've got eight whole pages left for the promotion of Libre Graphics projects. We're running A4 size pages and if you don't want to design an ad yourself, we'll do it for you. If your project wants one of those spaces, either reply to this thread, to me, or to enquiries@...2484... -- ginger "all-lower-case" coons adaptstudio.ca 647.865.7757 (Toronto) 514.213.1318 (Montreal) _______________________________________________ CREATE mailing list CREATE@...626... http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] Filters Not Saved with PNG
by Jasper van de Gronde 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

Chris Lilley wrote: > On Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32:16 PM, knowone wrote: > ... > k> How can I save the file as PNG with the drop shadow intact? > > Make sure you are exporting as PNG. Do not 'Save As' Cairo PNG. > > (I came across this a couple of days ago, and the symptom was that blur filters were not being applied. Also, the pixel dimensions of the two methods differ, if the graphic bleeds over the edge of the 'page'). Can someone tell me why we have a non-vector format in the save as list? One that seems redundant and apparently with less functionality than the normal export. Is this for testing purposes?

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improved dxf export
by john cliff 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

Seems like theres a couple of improved versions of the dxf export script floating around the web, can we contact the devs in question and see about getting one of them pulled back into head? http://www.bobcookdev.com/inkscape/inkscape-dxf.html http://tim.cexx.org/?p=590 http://www.bigbluesaw.com/saw/big-blue-saw-blog/general-updates/big-blue-sa… cant see any references to licenses, but since they seem to derive from the inkscape one I guess their GPL, would be wise to confirm that with the devs in question tho. Cheers John

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] 0.48.1 next week
by ~suv 31 Oct '10

31 Oct '10

[ this time sending reply to the list ;) ] On 31/10/10 20:46, ~suv wrote: > On 31/10/10 19:40, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote: >> On 30/10/10 19:12, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote: >>> 2010/10/28 ~suv <suv-sf@...58...>: >>>> On 28/10/10 16:04, Tavmjong Bah wrote: >>>>> 1. It is no longer possible to scale/rotate patterns used to fill text >>>>> (related to changing the snap point for text?). >>>> >>>> Reproduced with Inkscape 0.48.0 and 0.48+devel r9860 on OS X 10.5.8 >>>> Possibly not implemented in the new node tool? >>> >>> Pattern editing is seriously broken at the moment, sorry :( >>> I will investigate ways of mitigating this in a few hours. >> >> Looks like I have fixed it. As a bonus we get multiple shape editing >> (e.g. editing 4 rects and 2 ellipses at the same time) for free in the >> node tool. The shape tools still can't handle many shapes at once >> though, and there are no multi-shape features. >> >> See rev. 9867 in trunk, 9708 in stable. > > I still don't see any pattern handles for text objects filled with a > (stock) pattern in r9867 [1]. This worked in Inkscape 0.47 by selecting > the pattern-filled text with the node tool and allowed to scale and > rotate the pattern. It works when selecting the text with one of the shape tools, which was unexpected to me, but it allows to change the knots of the pattern. > Could you maybe take a look at (just reported) bug #669162? Besides the > missing feature in the new node tool, it can also cause Inkscape to > crash after trying to stamp paths while dragging a node or its handle. ~suv

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] 0.48.1 next week
by ~suv 31 Oct '10

31 Oct '10

[ back to the list ] On 31/10/10 21:29, Tavmjong Bah wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 20:55 +0100, ~suv wrote: >> [ this time sending reply to the list ;) ] >> >> On 31/10/10 20:46, ~suv wrote: >>> On 31/10/10 19:40, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote: >>>> On 30/10/10 19:12, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote: >>>>> 2010/10/28 ~suv <suv-sf@...58...>: >>>>>> On 28/10/10 16:04, Tavmjong Bah wrote: >>>>>>> 1. It is no longer possible to scale/rotate patterns used to fill text >>>>>>> (related to changing the snap point for text?). >>>>>> >>>>>> Reproduced with Inkscape 0.48.0 and 0.48+devel r9860 on OS X 10.5.8 >>>>>> Possibly not implemented in the new node tool? >>>>> >>>>> Pattern editing is seriously broken at the moment, sorry :( >>>>> I will investigate ways of mitigating this in a few hours. >>>> >>>> Looks like I have fixed it. As a bonus we get multiple shape editing >>>> (e.g. editing 4 rects and 2 ellipses at the same time) for free in the >>>> node tool. The shape tools still can't handle many shapes at once >>>> though, and there are no multi-shape features. >>>> >>>> See rev. 9867 in trunk, 9708 in stable. >>> >>> I still don't see any pattern handles for text objects filled with a >>> (stock) pattern in r9867 [1]. This worked in Inkscape 0.47 by selecting >>> the pattern-filled text with the node tool and allowed to scale and >>> rotate the pattern. >> >> It works when selecting the text with one of the shape tools, which was >> unexpected to me, but it allows to change the knots of the pattern. >> > > Krzysztof, thanks for working on this! > > One problem, it seems to fill up the <defs> section with hundreds of > patterns. Does anybody else see this? Confirmed: when using a shape tool to scale or rotate a pattern of a text object tons of patterns definitions with 'patternTransform' are created. Does already happen with Inkscape 0.47 (using the node tool) and 0.48 (using one of the shape tools) when transforming a pattern of a text object. ~suv

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Text import extension does not load in Ubuntu
by Alex Valavanis 29 Oct '10

29 Oct '10

Hi everyone, I'm helping to maintain the Ubuntu package of Inkscape. I mentioned in bug #479944 that the text import extension does not load in Ubuntu. I'd be grateful if anyone can offer any extra debugging assistance with this - I can't see any obvious reason why the extension does not load. As I mentioned in comment #7, extension-errors.log doesn't report any problems. Thanks, Alex

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NEW: mouseover cursors in Selector
by bulia byak 28 Oct '10

28 Oct '10

Selector tool has a new mouse cursor (arrow with an open hand) for when your mouse is over a selectable object, and another (arrow with clinched hand) for when you're dragging an object. This improves precision of selection and UI consistency (previously, the mouse cursor over a selectable object was different across platforms, e.g. hand icon on Linux or four-way arrow on Windows). -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] 0.48.1 next week
by Michael Wybrow 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

On 25/10/2010, at 5:47 PM, Michael Wybrow wrote: > On 21/10/2010, at 8:12 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > >> Are there any issues of satble version somebody is working on or >> planning to work on in the coming days? > > I'm still looking at a problem with connectors seemingly caused by recent changes to the ConvexHull code (possibly by differences in 2Geom's implementation?). Should be fixed shortly. Okay, the fix for this connector bug is now committed to the trunk. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/666586 Cheers, Michael

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Fwd: Know any developers (or someone else who might know any) working on Inkscape in Toronto, Canada?
by Diederik van Lierop 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

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PDF export wrong color for black line
by unknown＠example.com 26 Oct '10

26 Oct '10

Hi all, For those of you that know a little about cairo, please have a look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/665628 It is a somewhat strange bug, as it only happens for completely black paths, not for other colors, while Inkscape does the same for paths with any color. So I think it is a cairo bug. Thanks for looking into this. Ciao, Johan

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Exporting a SVG to PS causes excessive blurriness
by Jevon Wright 26 Oct '10

26 Oct '10

Hi everyone, I am trying, but struggling, to find a solution to bug #585286 [1], where exporting a SVG containing a transparent PNG to PS causes excessive blurriness. This is a major bug for me. I've done as much research as I can do on this bug. After delving through the code base, I think this bug is related to bug #427226 and bug #208217 - apparently Postscript does not support alpha transparency [2], which I think is what is causing the rasterization, and I think it is happening within Cairo. However, it still supports clipping and masking, so as far as I can tell this should be technically possible! An alternative is simply to increase the resolution of the forced rasterization, but I can't find anywhere in the code to increase this. Would this be part of Inkscape or Cairo? I've tried using Cairo 1.10.0 with no effect. If anybody has some knowledge of Inkscape/Cairo and can suggest some solutions or even ideas, I would be most grateful. Thanks Jevon [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/585286 [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_%28graphic%29#Transparency_in_Pos…

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LaTeX vs. other forms of TeX.
by John Culleton 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

There is a presumption that the de facto version of TeX is LaTeX. However the latest work in TeX is centered around non-LaTeX versions such as XeTeX and Luatex. Some of us prefer our TeX without the excess baggage of LaTeX. So I wonder if it would be practical to have the Inkscape output of TeX text in e.g., pdftex format as well as LaTeX format? This output would be both less verbose and more flexible in e.g., paper sizes. -- John Culleton, Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" $5.95 at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html Free eps format barcode: http://www.tux.org/~milgram/bookland/

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adopted extensions in point releases
by Alexandre Prokoudine 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

Hi, We have a number of adopted extensions shipped with Inkscape. One of them is JessyInk, which, IIRC, was updated at least twice since we added it -- once in August and yesterday. Both are bugfix releases. Do we update code for the upcoming point release? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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Crop tool should be straight forward to implement, thoughts?
by Andy Fitzsimon 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

G'day everyone, I had a thought after some observation and while it wouldn't look good on our already crowded toolbox, it should be fairly easy to implement a crop tool. In practice its just applying parent group to all things then a clippath and finally a resize page to contents command which we already have the code for... Also, it would be easy to have a rule that crops from the selection (if things are selected) by skipping that last resize page and only grouping the already selected stuff.. maybe attached as a mode of the default selector tool from the parent toolbar My thinking is that right now creating clippaths is a weird concept for new-to-vector users, but almost everyone gets the idea of cropping This could be a very achievable GSOC feature if someone is willing to mentor it.. Personally, I can see how much simpler it would be rather than drawing rects and making a weird selection every time i want to crop. to new users, this workflow is not obvious What are the thoughts here? -- Andy

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changing textnodes with dbus?
by unknown＠example.com 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

Hello, I would like to change the text of textnodes with the dbus api. Is it possible, or does it require changes to the dbus implementation? -- Joakim Verona

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Help needed in fixing line positioning bug.
by Tavmjong Bah 22 Oct '10

22 Oct '10

Hi, I've found a problem with line positioning in text objects after a line is deleted. When I first saw this bug I though I might have introduced it with my recent work on text but it turns out that it predates the work. In any case I've investigated the bug and have narrowed down the problem but I don't know how to fix it. Here is how to reproduce the bug: 1. Create some multiline text. 2. Remove one of the middle lines including the new line character. 3. Save the file then look at it in a web browser or with the XML Editor. The lines will be shifted down one unit of line-height. Here is what I have found: When you delete a new-line: sp_te_delete calls delete_line_break and then te_update_layout_now. The latter calls SPText::rebuildLayout() which loops over the tspans, calling tspan->attributes.setFirstXY(anchor_point). The values of anchor_point are correct and Inkscape displays the tpans correctly but the x and y attributes as shown by the XML Editor are not updated. It is as if the x and y attributes are being updated in a copy of the tspans. What needs to be done to get the tspans in the tree update correctly? Tav

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inkscape feature : fullscreen + scripted button
by audrey samson 19 Oct '10

19 Oct '10

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX apologies for Xposting XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX hello all, i am working on a performative installation in which inkscape is used. the idea is that people can draw on the screen (in inkscape) and a constantly refreshing screengrab is streamed to a server (in pure data) which displays it on a webpage. this page also displays a performer in australia. both 'screens' (australia + touchscreen in amsterdam) are communicating together through drawing/touch. what i am missing in inkscape for all this to run smoothly is: 1) full screen option (not even showing the menu bar 'File', 'Edit', etc., *only* the canvas). 2) a graphical button (i.e. filled green circle) which, when 'pressed', will 'save as' (to record the current vector drawing to a folder with a numerically incrementing filename), 'select all', 'erase', 'return pointer to paintbrush tool option'. the situation is that i have very little time to figure this out and i can imagine that for some people on this list this is rather easy to implement. therefore i hope that someone out there has a bit of time and perhaps an inclination to work on this. there is of course budget for this and proper credits to the programmer/developper and promotion of inkscape project will be included in the project documentation. the project runs on nov. 6th. (thus very quick deadline). you can contact me @ this email address or on irc.indymedia.org #etc. i tried to join #inkscape but i cannot post. much appreciated! audrey samson ideacritik.com

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missing file 'application/editor.h', Windows, rev 9830
by Alvin Penner 16 Oct '10

16 Oct '10

attempting to compile for the first time, Windows XP, rev 9830, I get the error message: C:\InkscapeBZR>btool #################################################### # BuildTool v0.9.9 #################################################### ######## PARSE : build.xml snip ##### compile the source to .o --- compile / cc cc : compile of build/obj/ui/view/edit-widget.o required by source: src/ui/v iew/edit-widget.cpp ============ cmd ============ mingw32-g++ -c -Wall -Wformat -Werror=format-security -W -Wpointer-arith -Wcast- dget -Isrc/util -Isrc/widgets -Isrc/xml src/ui/view/edit-widget.cpp -o build/obj /ui/view/edit-widget.o ============================= Make error line 299: problem compiling: src/ui/view/edit-widget.cpp:51:32: fatal error: application/editor.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/missing-file-%27application-editor.h%27%2C-Windows%2C… Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Adding Nodes in 48
by Martin Owens 15 Oct '10

15 Oct '10

Got 0.48 with 10.10 and now I can't add nodes to paths by double clicking. Although I did finally work out how to work the pressure sensitivity dialog and turn my wacom on. Have the node adding feature been removed? Martin,

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New translatable Keys and mouse reference
by Nicolas Dufour 15 Oct '10

15 Oct '10

Hello, A "Keys and mouse reference" translation system is available in the inkscape-docs project as of revision 385 (see https://code.launchpad.net/inkscape-docs). The new keys.xml has been almost entirely docbookified in order to make its conversion to PO easier, and the resulting HTML file is slightly different than the current one (new external CSS, some style changes, and strict XHTML 1.0). I didn't wanted to change its aspect too drastically, and thus only fine-tuned some styles in order to (hopefully!) improve the overall readability on most browsers (tested with Opera 10.63, IE8 and Firefox 3.6.10 on Windows XP, and Firefox 3.6.10 on Ubuntu 10.04). Don't hesitate to comment. To add a new translation, copy keys.pot (from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape-docs/trunk/files/head%3A…) to LANG.po, translate (only 939 strings...), and attach the PO file to a bug report, send it to the translators' list, or commit it if you have the appropriate rights. Then update the UI translation file to redirect the link to the new HTML file on the website. BTW, we currently use keysVERSION.html (keys048.html) and thus it would be straightforward to use keysVERSION.LANG.html (keys049.sk.html...). But we could also choose keys-VERSION-LANG.html (keys-049-ja.po). Any preference? or another idea? Regards. -- Nicolas

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pdflatex use case
by Richard Henwood 15 Oct '10

15 Oct '10

Hi All, I am very grateful to Johan for the excellent work he did putting a Latex export into 0.48. In my use of Inkscape/Latex, I maintain a sub-directory with the figures in... indeed, sometimes I maintain a sub-directory for each chapter, each with a figures directory. This use doesn't play well with the export as it stands currently. The Latex export assumes that the figure is in the same directory as the calling latex document. I would like to ask if the directory that the exports reside in could be specified from Inkscape. I would like, for example, to make mine './ chapter1/figures'. The output .tex from latex would then append this to the image path called by 'includegraphics'. A text field on the export dialogue is one possibility (but I appreciate that dialogue is already busy). Please let me know any if you require any further detail or work on this proposal, Richard

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Inkscape forum down
by Bryan Hoyt | Brush Technology 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

Hi, inkscapeforum.com seems to be down at the moment (mysql database crashed). Is the person in charge aware that it's down? - Bryan -- PS. Check out the Brush newsletter: *Subscribe or read our previous newsletters* <http://brush.co.nz/newsletters> Bryan Hoyt, *Web Development Manager* -- Brush Technology *Ph:* +64 3 942 7833 *Mobile:* +64 21 238 7955 *Web:* brush.co.nz

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Fwd: [Press] PRESS RELEASE: Aiki Framework Releases Version 0.5 Alongside Open Clip Art Library 2.6
by Jon Phillips 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

please help us spread the news!!! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Fabricatorz Press <press@...2474...> Date: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:38 AM Subject: [Press] PRESS RELEASE: Aiki Framework Releases Version 0.5 Alongside Open Clip Art Library 2.6 To: press@...2475... For immediate release: October 14, 2010 UTC – Aiki Framework has been rapidly gaining ground in 2010, and that progress is highlighted in the latest Official Release of the open source software: Version 0.5. Developer, Bassel Safadi (http://bassel.ws) has logged an impressive list of revisions and fixes in his latest iteration. Highlights of the new release allow for more secure and stable installations. The administration panel has seen the benefit of Event Listeners logging changes made and more intuitive and real-time widget modification. File handling is also becoming friendlier, as ZIP files can now be uploaded to a server, stored, and unzipped, all through Aiki Framework 0.5. For users interested in where Aiki Framework is headed next, a Roadmap exist and is being consistently updated (http://www.aikiframework.org/wiki/Roadmap). The Open Clip Art Library (http://openclipart.org) team continues it's push for a more intuitive and Community-driven package, with the Official Release of Open Clip Art Library 2.6. October's new release is marked by over 35,000 images created and remixed by a Community of artists that remains increasingly numerous. September's registrants added over 1,500 new users to OCAL's user base, which now totals over 68,000. Site stats like these have grown exponentially since the Librarians renewed mission began with this Spring's release of Open Clip Art Library 2.0. Community-centric features now serve as a central focus for OCAL Developers. Visitors to Open Clip Art Library's Participation page (http://openclipart.org/participate) will find a new "Community Help" Section that pulls in the top 10 most important "user-requested" features from OCAL's Launchpad Blueprint (https://launchpad.net/openclipart). This section is a gateway for those in the Community who are passionate about Open Clip Art Library's purpose and would like to help make it better. All users are invited to contribute to future OCAL Releases via feature requests, bug reports, and coding. Another highly requested feature is also making it's return to Open Clip Art: Profile Management. A special thanks to [http://www.openclipart.org/user-detail/cgbug cgbug] for getting this feature back into the mix. Once logged into their OCAL profile page, users can now select "Edit Profile" from the right sidebar and edit personal information, including adding a custom Avatar. Halloween is in the spotlight this month, and it's only right that Open Clip Art 2.6 celebrate by delivering yet another content-drenched themed Clip Art Package. September's Fall 2010 Theme pales in comparison to the 160+ images users can expect to receive as they download the latest addition to OCAL's Themed Sets. More information on these and other events involved in the progression of Open Clip Art Library can be found via the project Roadmap (http://www.openclipart.org/wiki/Roadmap). == Highlights == * Aiki Framework 0.5 Release * Over 35,100 unique and remixed clip art * 1,500+ new registered users last month * New Open Clip Art Library 2.6 Release * Halloween 2010 Clip Art Package Released (158 Clip Art) == Downloads == We now provide monthly customized packages related to monthly themes. Please follow the url below to download the latest packages. *http://openclipart.org/packages == About Open Clip Art Library == Since 2004, the Open Clip Art Library (http://www.openclipart.org/) aims to create an archive of user contributed clip art that may be freely used. All graphics submitted to the project are placed into the Public Domain according to the Creative Commons Public Domain Declaration. The site is powered by the Aiki Framework (http://aikiframework.org), a new web framework using the AGPL license. The Open Clip Art Library. Drawing Together. == For more information == * http://openclipart.org * http://aikiframework.org * http://fabricatorz.com * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Clip_Art_Library * [http://www.facebook.com/pages/Open-Clip-Art-Library/345650985985 Open Clip Art Library Facebook Page] * http://aikilab.org == Press Contact == Jon Phillips press@...2474... +1.415.830.3884 San Francisco + China _______________________________________________ Press mailing list Press@...2475... http://lists.fabricatorz.com/listinfo.cgi/press-fabricatorz.com -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/ http://fabricatorz.com/ http://status.net/ http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.187.1003.9974 (china)

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Can't compile on XP
by Preben Soeberg 13 Oct '10

13 Oct '10

Something went wrong in r9828. Got this: Make error line 299: problem compiling: src/main.cpp: In function 'int main(int, const char**)': src/main.cpp:710: error: invalid initialization of reference of type 'char**&' from expression of type 'const char**' src/main.cpp:261: error: in passing argument 2 of 'bool replaceArgs(int&, char**&)' Regards Preben

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three patches regarding batch export, layer selection and xml-editor
by Robin Palotai 09 Oct '10

09 Oct '10

Hi List, I've been a happy user of Inkscape, and now I needed some tweaks. I attach the patches against the current svn head, and brief description for them: (1) mutual_hide_on_png_export.patch This adds a new checkbox to the Export dialog if multiple selection is present. Ticking it hides not only non-selected items, but also other selected items on export, therefore the different items don't iterfere with each other. (2) xml_editor_jump_to_element_on_layer_select.patch If a layer is selected in the Layers dialog, the XML editor jumps to the appropriate svg:g element. (3) add_layer_to_selection.patch This is kind of work-in-progress. A new two-state column is added to the Layers dialog, which shows if the layer is selected or not, and also on clicking the row icon can add/remove the layer to/from the selection. I mainly use this for sub-layer selection and moving. Possible improvements: - currently the show/hide eye icon is copied - right-align the column (how is this possible in gtk?) - if multiple layers are selected, trying to grab and move them by clicking on an item inside one of the selected layers moves only that layer. Hack: create a dummy layer with a "control" rectangle, select the control-rect, add the layers to the selection using the new icons, and then grab the control rect and move them all. I hope you find the patches useful and even improve them if required. BR, Robin

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"close all curves" extension
by Alexandre Prokoudine 08 Oct '10

08 Oct '10

Hi, Do we want this extension in the bundle? http://www.cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=37 By the way, the very same guys implemented an absolutely amazing extension that creates Gcode (Computer-aided manufacturing, or CAM data) out of Inkscape drawings: Main English page seems to be http://kalyaev.com/2010/20100423/gcodetools.html They have a bzr repo here: https://launchpad.net/gcodetools Unfortunately there is less information in English than in Russian. But you can look at pretty pictures :) http://www.cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=34 Alexandre

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Quirkiness with CMS Fill tab
by Chris Mohler 07 Oct '10

07 Oct '10

Hi list - The CMS Fill tab acts funky when I link to 'USWebCoatedSWOP.icc' (as provided by Adobe[0]). The drop-down only works the first time (ie, color sliders appear), but making changes is not really possible - the sliders disappear as soon as you attempt to interact with them. Linking 'ISOcoated.icc' does not cause this issue. This is in stable 0.48. I just checked 0.47 and I get the same weirdness in the CMS tab there. No output on the command line. Can anyone confirm? I'm ubuntu 10.04 amd64. I built 0.48 from the tarball this morning and 0.47 is from the repos. Not a huge deal - but I am curious as to what the problem might be. Thanks, Chris [0] http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/iccprofiles/icc_eula_win_end.html

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svn going nuts
by Alexandre Prokoudine 07 Oct '10

07 Oct '10

Hi, As you very well remember, we still use SVN for the website. So, I was intending to commit news translation into Russian today, but they ended up being commited instead of English files, so out first two news items in English for September are in Pushkin lingo now. Here is what I see when I try to commit some more translations: avp@...2472...:~/soft/src/inkscape_web/news/ru/2010$ svn commit 09/004.inc Adding 09/004.inc svn: Commit failed (details follow): svn: File '/svnroot/inkscape/inkscape_web/trunk/news/en/2010/09/004.inc' already exists svn: Your commit message was left in a temporary file: svn: '/home/avp/soft/src/inkscape_web/news/ru/2010/09/svn-commit.3.tmp' Note how files from ru directory try to be committed to en directory. Could anybody please explain how on Earth this is possible? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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¿How can I move the toolbars from right to top?
by jEsuSdA 8) 07 Oct '10

07 Oct '10

Hello, First at all, congratulations for the new Inkscape release. I love it. I have a problem, I can not move the toolbars from right to top. There are more icons than the bar can contains, then it is a headache working with this settings. There are any way to move toolbars from right to top, like the 0.47 version? Thanks! Salu2 de jEsuSdA 8)

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Compiling on Windows
by Nery Chucuy 05 Oct '10

05 Oct '10

Hi, According to http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Win32Port I need to use MinGW, is there any way I can use only MSVC08. Have you though about using Scons? Thank you,

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Inkscape UI Papercuts
by Aleksandar Kovac 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

Hi everyone, in the last month+ I have conducted a tiny survey with a few fresh Inkscape users. A mixture of ethnographic research in design and 'papercuts' by mr. Siegel. ;) (http://davidsiegel.org/one-hundred-paper-cuts/) I asked a few colleagues to try using inkscape for some time and put down all the little irritations they find. I tried to systematize the list somewhat, but that could use some more work probably. They are mostly small inconsistencies, unnecessarily complex jargon, etc. Anyhow, it's a list of roughly 100+ small issues (some with suggested simple corrections), a la: -- Inkscape preferences: Color management: 'Black point compensation', the tip says: 'enables black point compensation' not too informative. -- Inkscape preferences: Interface. 'Enable dynamic relayout'... Technical jargon. -- Commands Bar: Import: The Tip says: 'Import bitmap or SVG into this document' but actually it imports so much more (see import in the file:import) -- Text and Font panel: The 'Layout' area is a misnomer. Solution: The correct title would be: 'Text alignment and direction'. (Alignment being: Left, centered, right, justified. Direction: horizontal/vertical). ...etc. What would be the best way to present those? Should I submit them as bugs? Should I try to out down the solution suggestions for the issues, too? Thanks. Alex.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] ui improvements
by Jasper van de Gronde 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

On 2010-09-09 12:54, J.B.C.Engelen@...1578... wrote: > ... (about tool cursor with color preview) > Pretty neat! > Could you also implement this for the spiral, pen(cil) and calligraphy > tools? Sure. The main reason I didn't do it yet is that it isn't clear to me what should be shown. Other than that it's just a matter of changing the corresponding .xpm and adding a small line with tool's "preference url" to its TOOL-context.cpp (in the init function, see rect-context.cpp for example, if you want to do it yourself).

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Cloned Tiles
by Thorsten Wilms 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

Hi! Back to the topic of the Cloned Tiles UI: One issue is if you try to apply one of the non-rectangular wallpaper groups to rectangular prototype, the result does not appear to make sense. Showing schemes like http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/wallpaper_groups1.png would help a bit. But actually, the user should start with the right shape. They should be encouraged and assisted to do so. The "Use saved size and position of the tile feature" allows one to deal with geometry that extends outwards of the base tile, as nicely explained on http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/TilePattern.html I think this is a hack to seemingly get around the need for 2 different things: the base tile area used for building the pattern (gap-less, no overlap), and the prototype with the geometry to be repeated. A solution could be to put this functionality into a tool/effect. You choose the Wallpaper group, then you create the base tile area that will have the right shape (similar to rectangle/star/polygon tools). There could be automatic selection of geometry covered by the base tile area. If you start with a selection, the base tile area could be created centered on it, automatically. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/

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Problem resizing horizontal or vertical lines
by JiHO 01 Oct '10

01 Oct '10

Hello all, This is an old issue I think, and this made wonder wether there was a workaround by now. Here are the steps: 1- draw a perfectly horizontal line (snap to grid to be sure) 2- select the path with the selector tool. Its size is displayed in the toolbar 3.1- in inkscape preferences > tools, select visual bounding box 3.2- resize the width of the line by typing a new number (say, half the original) in the toolbar => The line is resized but only approximately 4.1- in inkscape preferences > tools, select geometric bounding box 4.2- resize the width of the line by typing a new number in the toolbar => The line is not resized at all This works the same when you try to change the height of a vertical line. I guess all this relates to a division by zero somewhere since it disappears as soon as the line is slanted even by the tiniest amount. I could not find a bug report but there is surely one (I probably just searched with incorrect terms). Is there a fix in sight? a workaround? I am trying to map an apartment and it's just a bunch of horizontal and vertical lines that need to have a precise length. Thanks in advance for any help, JiHO --- http://maururu.net

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How to reduce complexity of scanning svg file
by Stephen Dickason 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Hello all. I am using Inkscape to vectorise images - i.e. set up path information - that I can then parse the resulting .svg file into an intermediate program that when run generates the equivalent PDF drawing commands. This was nice and easy with version 0.46, but I have a windows XP configuration where the Inkscape floating toolbars don't work properly on that version and upgraded to version 0.48 where they now work. A new problem is now the path information (after working on the path) is now not just M,L,C,z commands, but also m,l,c commands, and command omission on repetition. (The M,L,C commands are great because translating them is relatively simple.) I have attempted to correctly interpret the relative coordinates of the m,l,c commands, but I don't seem to get the curves right. The command omission on repetition I may have to rewrite my parser, or try understand the whole thing again (No it wasn't BNF'd or Yacc'd). I have a few options in order of preference: 1) Find the switch in Inkscape that makes it use the original M,L,C path commands. 2) Export the path(s) from inside Inkscape to something similar. 3) Fix my parser, which will take a while and may break again in future versions. 4) Find a nifty utility that helps with the svg parsing. Can anyone can help or advise with the above options or suggest a better alternative? Thanks In Advance This email is subject to our disclaimer which can be found by visiting our website on http://www.elcb.co.za/UI/Contents.aspx?ID=28

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Funding inkscape development
by Drechsel Wolf 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Hi everybody, as I was the person to start this discussion, I feel myself obliged to try a sort of resume, so I tried a solution hopefully many people can agree with. What about a sort of "market place solution" like this ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We create a "market place" section in the wiki. Somebody looking for the solution of a specific problem (called "inquirer" in the following) can create a related page, containing a description of the task and a table with two columns and several lines. One column contains contributors with their financial offerings - obviously starting with the inquirer. The other column can contain entries of people who are willing to do the job, including the amount of money each person is asking for to do the job. When the sum of offerings exeeds the lowest demand, the inquirer can ask the contributors to wire the money to a "inkscape bank account in trust", which should be administrated by a small commitee. When the sum came in, the administration committee can issue the mandate to the contractor, who will start to work on the solution. When the inquirer states that the job is done, the administration committe can tranfer the money to the contractor, and the inquierer can remove the request page. In the case of conflict, the committee should act as an arbitration board. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As a EC citizen, I'd like a European Bank account - would make money transfer very cheap and easy due to the IBAN/BIC thing. If this or a modified solution of this kind would find general acceptance, I'll be happy to design the wiki pages/templates. Let me hear your comments. Yours, Wolf

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Non-model extension dialog consistency
by Craig Marshall 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

Hi, I think it would be good if the 9 extensions that are not using live-preview[0] could use a non-model dialog, just like all the other live-preview-enabled extensions do (when live-preview is unchecked). By live-preview-enabled, I don't mean whether the live preview checkbox is checked, I mean whether it has the checkbox at all. Note: I am only talking about extensions of the "effect" type, not input, output or any others that may exist. For example, if I want to re-apply an extension (a non-live-preview-enabled extension) and to change the workpiece between applications, I currently I have two options: 1) Close and reopen the dialog between uses. 2) Pretend that the extension can make use of live preview, but leave it unchecked. Option 1 is irritating, even though there is a "Previous extension" menu entry. Option 2 is a nasty hack, and one which could cause the extension to crash if the checkbox is accidentally checked. Since this non-modal functionality is the default for extensions that say "I can use live preview", I see no downside to making it the default to all extensions. In fact, it is a more consistent, and more user-friendly approach. I've filed a bug [1] and attached a very small patch, which implements this proposed change. It works in Windows 7 and OS X 10.5.8 at least. I think it would be great if some of the original or current UI/extension authors could give their points of view and possibly tell me where my thinking is flawed. Thanks, Craig [0] Add nodes, Embed Image, Extract Image, Guillotine, Printing Marks, Replace Font, Webslicer Create Group, Webslicer Create Rect and Webslicer Export [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/649441

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