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Blur slider inserts feBlend???
by Guillermo Espertino 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

bulia byak wrote: > Since recently, adjusting a blur of an object in Fill & Stroke not > only adds Gaussian blur but also a feBlend. Do you have any idea of > who added this and for what reason? I think this is a bug and must be > fixed. Thanks god someone saw this. Yes, it's a bug and in my opinion, is of high importance because it's a regression on something that was working fine. I reported this bug a week ago. https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/325162 As it was discussed before, the blending modes in individual elements is a headache because they need a solid element behind to show correctly (that was the main reason of moving the blend modes to the layers dialog, and it's still quite broken). That feBlend filter in the blur effect should be reverted asap. Imo the blend filters should be removed from everywhere except the filters dialog, since the problem of the background acumulation isn't solved, and lost feBlend filters use to be a pain when they left applied on an object after an undone operation (unexperienced users will have a really hard time trying to see why some objects disappear or look bad over others, until they finally figure out that there's a filter applied and it has to be removed). Gez.

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Blur slider and feBlend
by Ivan Louette 10 Feb '09

10 Feb '09

In fact I find this feature very useful. The only problem is that it isn't at the best place. ----- Message transféré ---- De : Ivan Louette <ivan_louette@...48...> À : bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> Envoyé le : Mardi, 10 Février 2009, 19h38mn 06s Objet : Re : Re : Re : initial filter scale Yes it's like a bug, but this is also the only simple way at the moment to activate this very useful kind of blend which isn't available by the Filters Editor. Thus before removing it that should be kind to offer another solution. I tried it in association with my filters and assuming you apply it after having grouped your already filtered object it works like a charm ! ________________________________ De : bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> À : Ivan Louette <ivan_louette@...48...> Envoyé le : Mardi, 10 Février 2009, 19h29mn 11s Objet : Re: Re : Re : initial filter scale On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Ivan Louette <ivan_louette@...48...> wrote: > About "Blend to background image" I do not mean layer blend but object > blend. I send you a file to see what is activated when you blur an object > placed on top of another one now. A Blend primitive to the background image > is automatically added to the Gaussian blur filter. I think that could be a > recent change in the SVN because I noticed it only last week. Thus I think a > checkbox which allows or not Blend to the background image close to the > Opacity slider (sorry, I wrote Transparency instead of Opacity) in the Fill > and Stroke dialog would be better than linking it with blur. Blend is > visually closer to transparency than to blur. Indeed it now inserts blendmode! This looks like a bug, I will raise a hell on the devel list now. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org ________________________________ Ne pleurez pas si votre Webmail ferme. Récupérez votre historique sur Yahoo! Mail __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ne pleurez pas si votre Webmail ferme ! Récupérez votre historique sur Yahoo! Mail ! http://fr.docs.yahoo.com/mail/transfert_mails.html

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 10 Feb '09

10 Feb '09

Krzysztof Kosi?ski wrote: > No, no, no! This only makes some sense on Windows. On Linux we already > have > the GTK icon theme mechanism. We don't need a theme changer like OO.o > (which > is an outstanding example how not to do cross platform desktop > integration). > We need this: > > http://live.gnome.org/ThemableAppSpecificIcons I'm also a linux user myself, so I'd love to se your proposal implemented. The portion of my message you quoted is a little out of context, I was replying to someone who was a Windows user and thought that Tango icons are *linux only*, iirc. I was suggesting an icon theme changer in the UI if a better solution wasn't possible, but your solution is far more elegant and convenient. And honestly, I don't care much about windows :) Regards, Gez.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-cvs] SF.net SVN: inkscape:[20521] inkscape/trunk/src
by Ted Gould 10 Feb '09

10 Feb '09

Whoa! This doesn't seem like a good idea. Why are you removing the version number from the menus file? --Ted On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:28 +0000, tweenk@...58... wrote: > Revision: 20521 > http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/inkscape/?rev=20521&view=rev > Author: tweenk > Date: 2009-01-14 15:28:20 +0000 (Wed, 14 Jan 2009) > > Log Message: > ----------- > Remove INKSCAPE_VERSION from menus-skeleton.h > > Modified Paths: > -------------- > inkscape/trunk/src/menus-skeleton.h > > Removed Paths: > ------------- > inkscape/trunk/src/inkscape_version.h.mingw > > > This was sent by the SourceForge.net collaborative development platform, the world's largest Open Source development site. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by: > SourcForge Community > SourceForge wants to tell your story. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-cvs mailing list > Inkscape-cvs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-cvs

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Disconnected Arabic letters
by Boutros Saba 09 Feb '09

09 Feb '09

Hello there, I installed the last 0.46 version my Tiger (10.4.11) Mac OS X. When I write Arabic I get disconnected letters - not as Arabic should be. I had an earlier version (I don't remember which one) that worked perfectly on the same OS version. I tried to install all prior version down until 0.43 - and the problem wasn't fixed. Any ideas? Thanks, ssb2o

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eraser tool opinions?
by bulia byak 07 Feb '09

07 Feb '09

Now that the Eraser tool is in SVN for quite some time, what do people think of it? Is it useful? In what mode do you use it, if at all? Disclaimer: as you may remember I was against this tool from the beginning, considering it redundant. Its Delete mode is equivalent to Alt+drag followed by Del in Selector, and its Cut mode is now equivalent to Alt+drag in Calligraphic pen which I just added: * When drawing with Alt, Inkscape subtracts the path you have created from the selected path (with Shift, it adds to the selected path). This allows you to quickly patch or fix problems in a stroke you have drawn without leaving the tool. So, do we really have to spend the prime toolbar space on a tool which does what other tools already do? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re : Filters top-level menu?
by Ivan Louette 07 Feb '09

07 Feb '09

Why not "Filter Manager" ? It doesn't only edit or create filters. It adds and removes them too. ivan ________________________________ De : bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> À : Inkscape Devel List <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Envoyé le : Jeudi, 5 Février 2009, 0h23mn 37s Objet : [Inkscape-devel] Filters top-level menu? I think filters are sufficiently complex, different from everything else, and have enough support in Inkscape now, so they deserve to be treated more like a top-level entity. In particular, I propose to add a new menu, Filters, before Effects. It would contain: - All the submenus with preset filter that are now in Effects > Filters. Ivan Louette is working on a huge and exciting expansion of that hierarchy, adding lots of powerful new filters. It's obviously too deeply hidden now, it deserves more visibility as one of the most important 0.47 additions. - The "Filter Effects..." dialog command which I propose to rename to "Build Filters" or "Filter Builder" or something like that. The current name is not very descriptive and even a bit misleading due to the word "effects" which refers to too many too different things in Inkscape (once again, let me reiterate my old wish: rename "Effects" menu to "Extensions", that is what they are!). The typical workflow would be to first choose one of the presets, then if needed, go to the Filter Builder to adjust the preset or start a new filter from scratch. - The Remove Filter command. Thoughts? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ne pleurez pas si votre Webmail ferme ! Récupérez votre historique sur Yahoo! Mail ! http://fr.docs.yahoo.com/mail/transfert_mails.html

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SVGFonts not working
by Felipe Sanches 07 Feb '09

07 Feb '09

hello guys, does anybody has a clue on why SVGFonts code stopped working? JucaBlues ------------- (09:01:51) Juca: SVG Fonts code is broken currently (09:01:58) Juca: and I have no idea why (09:02:18) Juca: at least for me it stopped working sometime ago (1 or 2 weeks maybe) (09:02:26) Juca: does it work for you? (09:02:39) Juca: maybe it is an issue with my cairo version (09:03:16) Alexandre Prokoudine: honestly, I find it difficult to use the current implementation (09:03:30) Alexandre Prokoudine: starting with having no idea in what form to input unicode value (09:03:48) Juca: yeah, I agree (09:03:58) Alexandre Prokoudine: and finishing with no numeric input for kerning value (09:03:59) Juca: currently we input the char itsef (09:04:16) Juca: not the codepoint value (09:05:03) Juca: but does it render anything (even the default missing glyph) in the text preview area? (09:05:10) Alexandre Prokoudine: nope (09:05:15) Juca: it is not rendering in my builb (09:05:16) Alexandre Prokoudine: and it never did for me (09:05:20) Juca: hmmm (09:05:42) Juca: it worked for me during some time and then misteriously stopped working (09:05:57) Juca: it worked while I was activelly developing it (09:06:11) Juca: since SoC until 2 weeks ago at least I think (09:06:36) Alexandre Prokoudine: maybe your cairo has a secret switch that worked only for you :) (09:06:43) Juca: :-P

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SVGFonts oncanvas without pango userfont support?
by Felipe Sanches 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

this thread is meant to brainstorm the possibility of implementing SVGFonts rendering on canvas without use of libpango. Since libpango development of the userfonts feature is very slow (currently at 0% done), I would like to ask you to keep in mind the possibility of adding special cases for SVG Fonts in the font family selector and in the text rendering on canvas. I am not asking you (Milosz) to implement it. I just would like to be sure that you are aware of this need and, if possible, I would like to brainstorm a bit about what should we do to better integrate SVGFonts rendering on canvas even without pango support. JucaBlues

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New OS X Package
by Milosz Derezynski 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

Dear Inkscape team - it's a package. The package was built on 10.5 and is Intel only. The package was built from SVN rev. 20630 and it uses Gtk+/Quartz instead of X11 windowing. There are a few bugs when running Inkscape on Gtk+/Quartz which I'm attempting to fix at the moment, once I have them fixed I will upload an updated package accordingly. I hope that despite the limited usability of the package (Intel-only) it can find some use. The package can be downloaded at: http://futurepast.free.fr/inkscape/ M. -- Please note that according to the German law on data retention, information on every electronic information exchange with me is retained for a period of six months. [Bitte beachten Sie, dass dem Gesetz zur Vorratsdatenspeicherung zufolge jeder elektronische Kontakt mit mir sechs Monate lang gespeichert wird.]

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commit access
by Alexandre Prokoudine 06 Feb '09

06 Feb '09

Hi, Could somebody with admin privilegies please grant our French translator Nicolas Dufour (jazzynico) commit access to SVN? Alexandre

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GSoC 2009
by Josh Andler 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

Hey all, Given that there will be a smaller number of students available via GSoC this year, do we have any volunteers to take care of coordinating our overall participation to ensure we can get the most possible? Primarily we just need someone who would be willing to stay on top of what is going on with GSoC, and to relay information and respond in a timely manner. Aaron, you had handled it last year, is it something you're interested in doing again? Cheers, Josh

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [CREATE] LGM 2009 update
by Alexandre Prokoudine 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Louis Desjardins wrote: > We're going to hit the accelerator pedal. There is so much I can do on the > local side. I need help on the sponsors/pledgie campaign and on the website, > mainly. I was reminded today that pledgie banner at inkscape.org is obsolete and asked to remove it. I'd rather replace it with a new one. Could the guy who pushed the magic pledgie button last year do it again please? :) Alexandre

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Snapping toolbar
by Diederik van Lierop 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

New as of revision #20491: the much requested and long overdue toolbar with snapping controls! Please test it and report any bugs. Question to you all: do you think we can remove the "snap" tabs in the document properties dialog, except for the snapping distance sliders? If you don't need it, just turn it off and it won't bother you again. If you don't like it, then please draw me some new icons. Please forgive, these are the first icons I've ever drawn :-). Obviously, there are no Tango icons yet either. On Linux, please don't forget to do a "make install" to install the new icons.svg file. Diederik

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SVN link on website
by Lucas Vieites 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Hi, I've noticed that on this page: http://www.inkscape.org/svn.phpthere's a link that points to: http://svn.sourceforge.net/inkscape This is not correct, it should be: http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/inkscape/ Cheers, -- Lucas Vieites

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] LPE cleanup
by unknown＠example.com 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Hi all, I just moved almost all 0.47 LPEs to the "experimental" section in the code. This means that they will not show up in the normal 0.47 builds. We need to make sure they work and don't crash, that there is a testfile in the testsuite and that they are useable too. If you want to build Inkscape with experimental LPEs, make sure "LPE_ENABLE_TEST_EFFECTS" is defined. You can do that by editing config.h (in build.xml for windows, on linux I have no clue), or by editing /src/live_effects/effect.cpp at the start somewhere put: "#define LPE_ENABLE_TEST_EFFECTS" Cheers, Johan > -----Original Message----- > From: Engelen, J.B.C. (Johan) > Sent: woensdag 7 januari 2009 23:22 > To: bulia byak; Inkscape Devel List; Maximilian Albert; > Maximilian Albert > Subject: RE: [Inkscape-devel] LPE cleanup > > Hi all, > yeah, LPE is a mess :-( I'm sorry I contributed to that :-( > > Recently, I improved the conditional compile of unfinished > effects. Now, the "test effects" are not compiled, unless one > #defines LPE_ENABLE_TEST_EFFECTS. So for example, probably > nobody here has the dynamic stroke LPE in their list, while I > and jfb have. Have a look in /src/live_effects/effect.cpp > around line 80 to see how to hide effects that are not finished. > > I am very tempted to move *all* new LPEs since 0.47 to the > disabled part. Moreover, every effect should have a test svg > that tests the effect in the testsuite; with a couple of not > so simple cases of the effect working properly. > > cheers, > Johan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bulia byak [mailto:buliabyak@...400...] > > Sent: woensdag 7 januari 2009 3:57 > > To: Inkscape Devel List; Maximilian Albert; Maximilian Albert > > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] LPE cleanup > > > > Hi guys, > > > > what if, as a first step towards 0.47, we clean up the mess > in our LPE > > list - remove proofs of concept, hide those that only make > sense in a > > tool, merge similar ones per our discussion, remove or fix > those that > > crash? Can anyone who's more in the loop please make a list of > > suggestions? > > > > -- > > bulia byak > > Inkscape. Draw Freely. > > http://www.inkscape.org > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------- > > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > > It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about > anything > > Open Source. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > >

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Paging jabber whiteboard developers
by Irving Popovetsky 31 Jan '09

31 Jan '09

(This message was cross-posted to the inkscapeforum.com site) Hello, I'm the one that filed this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/319107 on the jabber whiteboard and I'm interested in this feature. I'm currently looking for any Inkscape developers that are even somewhat familiar with jabber whiteboard/Pedro section of code in Inkscape and have what it takes to work on it. I'm currently looking to either recruit developers to this cause or else get some candid feedback on how much effort would be required to get this feature usable. Thanks in advance, -Irving Popovetsky

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Object to path
by Chris 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

Hi all, I'm writing a separate application that parses and renders SVG files. However, I am completely baffled by the Arc.. After much thought, I have come to the conclusion that it may be better to just alter the Inkscape source to automatically convert Arcs to Paths before saving the file. However, I can't find where this (Object to Path) actually happens in the source. If I could find the method that the menu item calls, I could just call that method before it saves the SVG. Either that or I would love to know how to convert an SVG "A" to a "C"!! Thanks

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My eventual participation in GSoC'09
by Felipe Sanches 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

I want to be a GSoC student again this year. I have some ideas and would like to hear suggestions. I could eventually work on: 1) SVG animation support (I usually animate SVG using javascript. It would be cool if we had declarative animation support also) 2) Pedro Whiteboard (I really would like to see this feature working) 3) migrating SPObject and derived classes to C++ (I am not sure whether this is too hard for a GSoC project) 4) any other suggestions? Juca

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regarding scripting improvements
by Felipe Sanches 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Today I tryied (again) to animate an SVG using javascript. I wanted to simply move a star by offseting its x,y coordinates on screen. So, I created a star in Inkscape and then opened the SVG in Firefox. Looking at the xml (using FireBug) I noticed that d attribute of the star uses absolute coordinates. Thus, it is not practical to change it's position dinamically since I would have to set transform:translate(x-x0,y-y0) guessing the correct values of x0 and y0. It would be much better (for scripting purposes) to have shapes always created with relative coordinates around (0,0) and then translated to x0,y0 using the transform attribute. The x0,y0 coordinate should be the rotation center of the object (which is represented by a little cross in inkscape ui) Maybe we should modify sp_svg_write_path to do that. Or maybe create a sp_svg_write_path_relative. Or maybe there is a better place in the code where we could place the proposed new behaviour... I am just guessing. Please tell me what you think about it. Juca

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set [RENEWED]
by jEsuSdA 8) 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

El Miércoles, 28 de Enero de 2009 19:22:55 escribió: Hello JF! > Two things you might consider changing: > - keep the cursor style consistent between the selector and node tool icons > - the drawing tools still have an outlined look, which is always going > to look odd to me Could you explain this a little more (I have some doubts cause my poor english) ;) > As I suggested before, I think it would be best to have separate sets. > I think there's definitely a use for the completely consistent Tango/Art > Libre set, as well as a Tangoified non-consistent set (which could be > the same as this modified set, which does the job nicely in many > respects), as well as versions of each for a dark background (which > should be simple enough to update), as well as (your desired style here). I think it is a great idea to allow users choose your favourite theme using Inkscape preferences. ;) > Can we agree to work on this concept? I think it would make a lot more > people happy. Ok. I think it is possible to work in some themes at once. I have no much time to work in all of them, of course, but I try to help as possible. ;) > JF Thanks! Salu2 de jEsuSdA 8)

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

El sáb, 24-01-2009 a las 13:26 +0000, Pajarico escribió: > A bit unfair, don't you think? First' that is not the case. Second, > I'm sure everyone here has a different opinion about what a good > workflow/integration is ;) Actually now that you mention you're > talking about VISUAL integration, which (IMHO) is a minor issue. > Integration in a broader sense is what user needs to improve his > workflow, like in Creative Suite. And I'm talking about major > integration here! ;) I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive. When I wrote "You don't seem to care" I meant that you were talking about a workflow that mixed free and commercial apps and it didn't seem that a free-software-only workflow was a priority for you. My english isn't as good as I'd like, so sometimes I have to simplify some sentences because I'm not sure about how to write them, and that can lead to misunderstandings. :-) Of course that features integration is the MOST important aspect of a common workflow alla Creative Suite. I had to find a not-so-comfortable worflow because of that and I suffer frequently that lack of integration, but that's something I have to live with because I want to use free software (even applications that didn't reach the 1.0 state yet ;-) Usually people who has a legal copy of Adobe CS uses their applications, not development software that might be unstable or incompatible. So your case is not the average either. You choose to work with inkscape (which is great, beautiful and certainly has bugs) instead of Illustrator, that is already part of a suite that has better interchange between applications handling. If I say "you don't care" I mean that you probably "don't see that difference as a problem", so having so different icons is something that you find acceptable, as you find acceptable that Inkscape and Indesign don't have a better integration. Anyway, even though I don't agree with several of your points I respect your opinion and I think we could reach a compromise. My first proposition was to make the current Tango set the default as is, but I find some very reasonable suggestions on the go. -Creating new tangoified icons for the drawing tools more similar to the current tools (and unifying their look: all pointing to the same direction and showing the caps with a stroke). -Creating a new icon for the 3D Box tool with a 2-point or 3-point perspective. -Adding color to the geometric primitives tools (I wouldn't use too saturated colors. Not red for the circle -the REC icon- but shades of pink like the default one). -Creating a tangoified version of the current Tweak icon (I'm not sure about this. I really prefer the Tango icon, but it's matter of taste). -Creating a new icon for the bucket fill tool. I agree that the current Tango icon is too flat, but I don't think it's problematic for recognition. But some people think it is so let's change it. As a final thought, I'd like to back up the comment from Aaron Spike. He clearly states that he prefers the current set, but he stresses the importance of the unified look and the need of a section in the preferences to change the icon themes easily. Gez.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

I've made some changes and tweaks according to the suggestions that several people made. Here is a screenshot with the latest changes (on the right side): http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/Tango-Icons-Colors.png I'm not sure about the dark strokes. They have a lighter outline for dark themes, but that makes them look blurred. Removing the outlines and keeping the dark color will make them useless for dark themes, so there's no way out: It's white with a grey outline like the original Tango set, or the middle gray with dark strokes (a.k.a. Bulia's spaghettis :-) What do you think? Gez.

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Inkscape input char encoding
by Aurélio A. Heckert 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi all, I comited the Calendar Generator to Inkscape SVN with only my personal tests in a home compiled UTF-8 Linux system. Alvin test it in a ISO-8859-15 Windos system and add a patch using unicode() function to accept Latin encoding. https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/320496 That was a problem for me, then i understand and add a encoding selector for all encodings of this page: http://docs.python.org/library/codecs.html#standard-encodings Now it works, but the user must selects the system encoding. That is not Friendly... I want to do this encoding selection automatically. But how? The inkscape can define the input char encoding? If yes, Why not ever send the input as UTF-8? Thanks, Aurium -- Aurélio A. Heckert http://colivre.coop.br/Aurium GNU/Linux User #312507 http://counter.li.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ilustração Vetorial Livre: http://InkscapeBrasil.org Coop. de Tecnologias Livres: http://Colivre.coop.br - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Eu temo pela minha espécie quando penso que Deus é justo." Thomas Jefferson Antes de imprimir esta mensagem reflita sobre a sua responsabilidade com a preservação do Meio Ambiente.

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andy-spiro test rendering changed completely?
by Jasper van de Gronde 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

For some reason the livepatheffect/andy-spiro test is now rendered quite different from how it used to be rendered (it changed between the 22nd and the 25th). I didn't create the test and am quite unfamiliar with the LPEs, so I have no idea how to judge which is right and which is wrong. Perhaps anyone can shed some light on this? Of course any ideas on what caused the change (regression?) would also be welcome. For reference, the two images (the original output/reference and the new output, respectively): http://home.hccnet.nl/th.v.d.gronde/andy-spiro1.png http://home.hccnet.nl/th.v.d.gronde/andy-spiro2.png

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

A comparison between dark GTK themes with both sets. http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/Tango-Icons-Colors-dark.png Notice that I didn't choose a black theme (they exist) but a dark gray one. The black details in the oficial set are still visible but the contrast lowered a lot, so they are difficult to see. In a pure black theme they will be completely invisible. The Tango text tool also needs some tweaking for dark themes. About the colors: I'd prefer a single shade for the shapes tools, Shades of blues, for instance, with low saturation. But it seems the majority prefers the different colors. I agree with Bulia about lowering the saturation of them a bit. Finally we're getting closer to an agreement :-) Gez.

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access beyond end of merged section
by Felipe Sanches 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

what does that mean? /usr/bin/ld: filter-effects-dialog.o: access beyond end of merged section (34359815658)

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

I made some changes in the Tango set to match some aspects of the current oficial set. http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/tango-icons-colors.svg.tar.gz -Created a new icon for the 3D box. No more box with trapezoid :-) -Added colors to the geometric primitives -Unified and tweaked the drawing icons (now all point upwards) -Created a new icon for the gradient tool -Created a new icon for the flood fill tool Maybe some of them need some tweaking. It's my first time creating tango icons, but I think they are acceptable. I don't like the color icons, but I'm trying to reach a compromise and see if people who prefered the oficial set find this set acceptable. I'll try to tweak the bucket icon a little, maybe to make more evident the part of the dripping paint (separating more the paint blob of the bucket). I didn't change the tweak icon, please let me know if you think it should be changed. I find the hand icon more appropriate, since that tool allows some sort of manual tweaking, some humanization. It's a very complete tool and it would be very hard to find only one icon for all its features and I think -let me know if you don't agree- the "finger" icon covers pretty well the idea of the tool. Besides, that tool is a transformation tool, not a drawing tool, and the current icon is so abstract that may be interpreted as a shape tool. Another icon I didn't touch was the connector tool. Do you think it needs color too? Here is a side by side comparison of both toolbars: http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/Tango-Icons-Colors.png I'd like to hear your feedback. Do you think it's more acceptable with these changes? What other changes should be considered to accept this set as the default? Gez.

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Which python
by Bob Jamison 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi, all. I found a small problem in build.xml that broke the build. In the "cxxtest" target, the path of the python executable was set to /target/python/python.exe . The problem with that is that the python you want at build time is the one that is native on your build machine. So on Linux, it would be /usr/bin/python or whatever. For win32/Mingw native builds, it would be preferable to add ${devlibs}/python to the PATH in mingwenv.bat rather than to explicitly invoke the one in /target/. Just "python" should be correct. Can someome please commit this? I don't want to commit the cross-compile version and break native/mingw. bob

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Bulia Byak wrote: > But the old set copes much better with color thanks to its strong, > graphic black outline. It's the outline that holds them together > graphically, color is just a decoration. With the anemic outline-less > Tango ones, color indeed mostly fails. There's nothing to hang that > color on, basically :) ... thanks to it's strong, graphic outline that isn't even present in every icon. Some have single black oultine, others have a second inset line (tweak took), others have no outline (gradient tool), others have multiple outlines (zoom tool). The black outline ends up disappearing in black/dark themes, so it's not usable without a light outline for strokes (bezier and freehand drawing tools). The oficial icon lacks consistency. It looks unfinished because too much icons look too different in style than the rest. If somebody takes the current oficial set and makes it more normalized, I bet that people who want Tangos won't be so against the current set. I'm not a Tango zealot. I find it better than the current set and I have my arguments to think that it would be better to put them as default. But i'm not against improving the current one, at all. Gez

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Trouble in debug inkscape on MacOSX
by Beni **** 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi everyone, I am student and I am looking for a way to debug inkscape, I have followed the instructions of the Debugging Tips for OS X and the CompilingMacOsX. The compilation works, I execute this line "Inkscape.app/Contents/MacOS/inkscape" every things is right but when I try to put a breakpoint in a source file like in main.cpp, gdb display that: No source file named main.cpp. Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) I have try to change the source directory, with the command directory [path] but nothing change. I don't know what can I do to solve my problem. I am working on MacOS 10.5. Thank you for your help. Cya _________________________________________________________________ Téléphonez gratuitement à tous vos proches avec Windows Live Messenger ! Téléchargez-le maintenant ! http://www.windowslive.fr/messenger/1.asp

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango icons as default set
by Guillermo Espertino 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Aaron Spike wrote: > Could you please include the Tango toolbar before your modifications in > the picture for comparison? Yes, I uploaded a new version with some corrections and the comparison of the three sets. http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/Tango-Icons-Colors.png The icons file: http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape/tango-icons-colors.svg.tar.gz Bulia Byak wrote: > That is better. Though I think now there's too much color in the shape > tools. Especially the 3D box is too dark and saturated. I lowered the saturation of the 3D box and made it lighter, it blends better to the rest of the tools now. > Do we really need to have white lines in Pen/Pencil, Calligraphic, and > Spiral? Is it against some guidelines to draw crisp, visible black > lines, which would also match the default style of these tools? (they > draw black lines, not white!) I also made the lines dark. The problem with this (or just black) is how the theme works in dark GTK themes. The black or dark lines disappear. Although I changed those lines and made them dark, the white line with outline strokes work better both in light and dark gtk themes. I'd change them back to white. > With this comparison, I cannot help noticing that it is definitely the > Tango icons that look more childish, naive, clumsy - not our current > set. Both look childish. That's because of the colors. Now both look like a plastic children toy :) I have to admit that that's an opinion based on the current trends, not in an usability test. Of course different colors are easier to identify, but now the trend for design applications is to use desaturated interfases and icons. A multi-color icon theme looks cheap. Not because it is cheap, but it's something similar than when you watch an original Star Trek episode: all that lights and sounds looked high tech back on its days, but now they look old. (this metaphore is appliable to Knight Rider episodes too :-) But, apart of the colors, the current set lacks sistematization. Some color guidelines, consistent usage of outlines, etc. > Sorry but this is > how I see it. I would accept the change if the majority votes for it, > but it will be a sad day for me when this happens. No offense taken. I respect your opinion and I'd prefer to achieve a tango set that is acceptable for you rather than making you sad. :-) Anyway, it would be great if someone creates an UI for easy selection of themes, and it would be also great if someone takes the current oficial set and fixes it to make it more consistent.

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sorted LPE list
by unknown＠example.com 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hi all, I just committed code that should sort the LPE list alphabetically. I have not tested it for other languages other than English. So hope this works for Japanese too for example... Since I programmed it in a general function, more enumerations should be sorted now. I hope that is not a problem. (for example filter combo boxes should be sorted now) Cheers, Johan

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How to handle invalid input files
by the Adib 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hello all, there is this bug report about inkscape crash on invalid svg input file: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/320987 The question here: Is there any standardized method how to handle invalid input files? eg show an error dialog or show an additional message line? Right now there is no message at all. The user does not get informed if inkscape can not render correctly. Even the user can corrupt the svg by typing some nonsense data in the xml editor. Any comments? Adib. ---

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape-devel Digest, Vol 32, Issue 50
by Guillermo Espertino 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

El vie, 23-01-2009 a las 22:46 +0000, Pajarico escribió: > First we don't know what is the > profile of the average Inkscape user so we don't know if he likes > tango, if he prefers one shade over differentiated colors, if he uses > other apps like Gimp or Scribus (personal opinion: i use Inky and > Indesign and Photoshop)... Hell, we don't even know what is the > majority operating systems of these users, which brings me the > following point: what is "unification"? Keep in mind that not everyone > uses Tango icons, not everyone uses gnome, and not everyone uses even > Linux! What about users in Windows or MacOS?? This won't bring any > unification for them for the most part unless they have Gimp or > Scribus (maybe other apps), and not everyone is using them with > Inkscape. So what's the deal? Well, of course it doesn't make much sense if you think about inkscape as an isolated application, but Inkscape is the flagship vector illustration program in free software, and it since we'll possibly never have a "Creative Suite" in the free software world the idea of a good integration between the main applications makes a lot of sense. One of the strengths of Adobe CS is that every application in the suite is integrated seamlessly (or at least that's what they'd want). Free software packages can't do that but at least an effort to unify criteria would benefit a good workflow between application for people who can't afford a proprietary design suite. You don't seem to care about the fact that Inkscape is free software and there are people interested in achieving a good workflow between other free packages, but that's very important for many of us. > Also about the point of icons being made of a single color vs. > multiple colors... well, maybe is matter of taste, but i like icons to > be distinctive in shape and colors. A single shade of a color won't > make them inherently "better", rather the contrary (IMHO). Adobe has > done that (single color icons with minimum saturation) and is a > hit-and-miss approach. In one hand they won't distract the user, on > the other difficulties on picking and telling apart tools might arise > (i'm talking about experience). That's something that can be discussed of course. The single shades thing was a suggestion based on how the other applications implemented their icons and on the idea that primitives are sort of "blank" objects, not something with a pre-defined style. Of course the rapid identification of the icons is a valid argument in favour of the colored icons. But I think that when it comes to frequent use items as toolbar icons users tend to memorize the position of the icon more than its shape or color. And that's why you can't find anything when you go from Inkscape to Illustrator, for instance. > I could agree that the current icons could use some improvements here > and there but bashing them and sustituting them just based on those > arguments seems a bit unfair to me. > Why we don't try to see what current icons are worth for and improve > from that? or improve the Preferences dialog to let the user choose > easily between icons sets? As english say "don't throw the baby with > the bathwater". It's not about bashing the current set. But there's a proposal to replace a set with a lot of problems for a complete, stylized and systematized set. The current Tango set has coherence. The current default set has a lot of style problems (some have chiseled look, some don't, some have saturated colors, some don't, some have outlines, some don't, there isn't apparently a color palette or some guides about how to combine the colors). It's functional, but it has a lot of problems. And fixing all those problems would require an incredible amount of work, a work that has already been done in the Tango set. You may dislike the Tango set, but you can't deny that the current state is more streamlined and look more polished if you put two screenshots together. My suggestion was to put Tango as default just to see the users reaction. As a test. Another solution would be to add a GUI for selecting different themes present in the icons folder. But I still think that a finished set is better for the default look. Gez.

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LPE dropdown box (was : NEW: LPE Interpolate)
by Steren 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

>> The LPE choose dropdown box is getting really huge now. Who wants to >> make mockups of what is a better system for applying effects? > > What about just a hierarchical menu with submenus, similar to the Effects menu? I think this is an issue that needs more to be discussed before coding anything (search for filters ?) Here is a first draft for LPE submenus, please comment and modify : =Artistic= // Everything that changes the path style (on a visual point of view) Freehand Shape Interpolate Sub-Paths Pattern Along Path Sketch Stitch Sub-Paths =Create= // create a very different path Gears Spiro spline ? VonKoch =Path Tweak= //small modifications Knot =Distort= // change the path shape Bend Envelope Deformation Lattice Deformation Perspective path =Technical= // tools for tech and serious drawings Angle bisector Boolops Circle (center+radius) Circle through 3 points Construct grid Mirror symmetry Offset Parallel Perpendicular bisector Ruler Rotate copies Tangent to curve

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PASS svgtestsuite-1.1 coords-units-02-b.svg
by unknown＠example.com 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

Hi all, Percentages are now correctly transformed to coordinates and lengths for circles, rects and lines. Now Inkscape passes svgtestsuite-1.1/coords-units-02-b.svg. Cheers, Johan

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Tango icons as default set.
by Guillermo Espertino 24 Jan '09

24 Jan '09

Since the Tango icon set for inkscape seems to be pretty complete and revised, I'd like to propose making it the default set in SVN (of course mantaining the current set as an alternative for people who preferes it). I know it is already possible to test the set easily, but I think that making it the default set will force users (of the development versions) to test it and will be a good opportunity to see if the general consensus is to leave it or roll back to the current set. It may be helpful to discover some bugs, too. What do you think? I haven't commit rights to do the change myself, so i'd like to ask someone who do, to apply the change if there are no objections.

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Interactive extensions? (Scripting console)
by Glimmer Labs 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

Glimmer Labs has been designing an interactive scripting console designed to provide a consistent UI for multiple languages and multiple programs called MediaScript. Currently it works standalone or as a GIMP plugin and handles several dialects of Scheme and soon will have python support. MediaScript is written in C using the GTK toolkit and will eventually be multi-platform as well. Unlike our previous scheme scripting console for Inkscape, MediaScript is a fully-featured editor with tabs, indentation, highlighting and more. (Apologies for the lack of communication about the cessation of work on SchemeInk and the development of it's successor, MediaScript.) I was looking for ways to add support for scripting Inkscape but I have not found a way to do so interactively. That is, all of the support for scripting seems to be a one time interaction, either through the command line or through menu items that call an outside program and pass it some information. Is there any API (similar to libgimp) that would be more suitable for this purpose? Is there is an incomplete system being developed I may be able to devote some time to, rather than hacking out a workaround? I remember hearing about some work that Bob Jamison was doing in this area and seeing some code stubs but I can't seem to find anything about it in the current code. Ted and MenTaLguY, I would be especially interested in hearing your thoughts on this matter. Thank you for your time, -Soren Berg

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Inkscape promotion in Colombia
by Ocetalo 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi there! I apologize for using this list, found it most related to current topic. I've got a proposal for you. Here in Colombia there is the SENA<http://www.sena.edu.co/portal>, a government service for training people -mostly youth and low income- in several trades by technical degrees and courses, graphic design among those. As far as I know, they've been using Corel and traditionals so I want to introduce Inkscape to them. I've found someone who can help pushing into the SENA office here in Cartagena<http://www.flickr.com/photos/mariedoucet/sets/72157611795508388/>. A first step would be to prepare an introduction material for this person, something she finds atractive and digestible (bear in mind she's a bureaucrat). I think it would be of great help, given that SENA targets people who can't afford licensed programs, as well as a window for Inkscape with a big chance of national coverage. Would you be interested? God bless you

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Clamwin is flagging the 0.46 installer as infected....
by john cliff 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi Guys, a user on the inkscapeforum has reported that clamwin is finding Trojan.Downloader-65039 in the 0.46 installer from sourceforge. I downloaded and installed clamwin and used it to check a fresh download and can confirm it flagging it. Any suggestions on what to do with it? Cheers John

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Building libraries for Win32
by Bob Jamison 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

Hi all, I am very sorry that I have been extremely busy with the day job since Thanksgiving (last Thurs in Nov, for you heathens (j/k) :-) ) I am going to put some text on the wiki how to build libs on win32/mingw for the bundle. It's actually quite easy. I'll start putting info on the site this weekend. But in the meantime, if you want to be able to add libs to the bundle (or build Gtk how Tor Lillqvist does it) you should download MSYS in the meantime. Several people have been trying to contact me about rebuilding Boehm-GC with a different option. I received your emails... sorry I was away at the time. This weekend, let's talk on the IRC/XMPP channel. bob

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my build.xml change
by bulia byak 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

This works for me, but since I rarely build for Windows I wanted to alert others in case this may turn problematic: cxxtests use python, but they assume there's a python executable in the path, which may not work for everyone, so I switched that to use ${devlibs}/python/python.exe -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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LPE cleanup
by bulia byak 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hi guys, what if, as a first step towards 0.47, we clean up the mess in our LPE list - remove proofs of concept, hide those that only make sense in a tool, merge similar ones per our discussion, remove or fix those that crash? Can anyone who's more in the loop please make a list of suggestions? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Input Devices cleanup
by bulia byak 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

I just noticed that we have two "input devices" commands in File menu. Please whoever did this, decide which one we will use and delete the other! In general, I would propose a "bus tomorrow" rule as a general guideline for committing stuff to our SVN: Before committing, imagine you are hit by bus tomorrow and cannot continue your work. Is your work so far still better off committed? That is, please do not willfully introduce duplication in the code and especially in the UI unless this solves some problems for the user (not you). What you commit must not be perfect and complete (nothing is ever perfect or complete), but it must be immediately useful for something and must not introduce confusion for the user. An exception can be made when your commit does not change the UI; committing unused code is still bad but can be tolerated so long as it's hidden. But two same-purpose commands in the menu or two indistinguishable LPEs are not acceptable in any case. Either we do the switch or we do not. If you expect users to give you feedback after comparing the two commands, forget it. People are too busy to bother. If not ready, do not commit; if ready, just make the switch, as early in the release cycle as possible, and be ready to answer angry emails :) -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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GSoC2009
by Alexandre Prokoudine 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hi, >From what Leslie wrote in the mentors list it's quite obvious that this year all organizations willing to participate should make an early start to get best proposals, because amount of projects is somewhat cut (no details given at this point) in comparison to last year. Since a number of principal developers had agreed that we indeed should take part at GSoC2009, I've just dared to publish news to encourage potential students looking at list of projects and blueprints and thinking about participating. If you find it necessary to edit the news text, please do so :) Alexandre

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Website
by Daniel Reichelt 19 Jan '09

19 Jan '09

Hi, some download links on inkscape.org/download/ are defective (i.e. http://downloads.sourceforge.net/inkscape/Inkscape-0.46.win32.exe instead of http://downloads.sourceforge.net/inkscape/inkscape-0.46.win32.exe). Same goes for the win 7zip download. Didn't check the others. HTH Daniel

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Bugfix
by Preben Soeberg 19 Jan '09

19 Jan '09

I have attached a patch to https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/318134 Could someone please check the patch and commit if found ok?

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JavaFX 1.0 exporter update
by Sergey Esenov 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

Hi all, I am very interested as well in getting JavaFX 1.0 support ready for Inkscape. I 've spent last holiday time to play with previous version and made some developments for javafx-out.cpp, javafx-out.h. I had no previous experience with inkscape, but I pretend to support the following features... - JavaFX 1.0 syntax - gradients with some limitations (bugs) in radial gradient support - gaussian blur - images - texts I tested everything under openSUSE 11.1 (x86). Of course, I am using netbeans 6.5 with Mac version of JavaFX 1.0 :) I've checked my updates against some known examples I found on the web. The most useful for me were ... http://chrisdesign.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/simple-metal-orb-using-gradient… http://howto.nicubunu.ro/shiny_web_buttons_inkscape/ http://openclipart.org/media/files/axcesar/3660 If somebody is interested, copy updated version found in attachment into ../src/extension/internal and just rebuild inkscape. Hope somebody may look at the code and do further improvements. Cheers, Sergey

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] Inkscape Problem
by Jasper van de Gronde 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

J.B.C.Engelen@...1578... wrote: > The windows build has become very unstable the last few weeks. I'm > working on it, and hope to have found the cure soon. > Sorry :-( > Johan I've also been looking into it. My guess is that the problem (if it is just one) was introduced between 28-12 and 04-01, because three of the rendering tests suddenly started crashing during that period. At least one of the tests crashes in Path::AddPoint (the pts.push_back line) in Path.cpp (while being called during Glyph rendering, I can provide more details if needed). I haven't looked closely at the other three, but it is at least suspicious that all three tests have text in them (while pretty much all other tests don't). The "crash on start" bug seems to crash inkscape right AFTER calling (and exiting) the first idle loop. I haven't looked deeper into this, but from what I'm seeing I'm guessing there is some memory corruption/initialization issue. This could also explain the different behaviour on different platforms.

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Where to start ...
by Koen Ribus 17 Jan '09

17 Jan '09

Hello *, I'm new here at 'devel' of inkscape - browsing the sources is quite overwhelming. However I succeeded in making a build myself (on windows) and think I fixed my first bug ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/318246 :-) A good start I hope ... Just not sure on what to do next ... maybe I need some pointers on how to proceed ... Regards, KoRi. --

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Mac Build
by step21 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

Hey, my newest build is now available here: http://rapidshare.com/files/184307760/Inkscape.dmg It's bigger than the previous ones cause this time I included all the python stuff. I also ditched the launcher. Because the launcher install script also compiled/installed the clearlooks theme, the theme is not included for now. But this should be easy to re-add. I'm not really sure if this fixes anything, but I'd like everyone who can to try it, and maybe post the error logs. Thanks.

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Cannot compile on XP
by Preben Soeberg 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

Problem compiling version 20513: Make error line 285: problem compiling: src/document.cpp:48:30: error: inkscape-version.h: No such file or directory src/document.cpp: In function 'SPDocument* sp_document_create(Inkscape::XML::Document*, const gchar*, const gchar*, const gchar*, unsigned int)': src/document.cpp:294: error: 'version_string' is not a member of 'Inkscape' As part of my build, I always run "btool.exe touchabout", which deletes inkscape-version.h. (and maybe the new version of build.xml does not handle this?) Preben

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prompt interrupting compilation
by Felipe Sanches 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

I am getting a prompt about overwriting inkscape-version.cpp that interrupts the compilation and waits for user interaction. I dont like it. I think that the build should always complete without need of user interaction. Juca

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interactivity-related new feature
by Felipe Sanches 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

I have just added event attributes (onclick, onmouseover, etc) to the object properties dialog. it is working nice for Inkscape SVG but not for Plain SVG. how do I preserve these attributes in plain SVG also? Also I am unsure about the usage of onload attribute but I have put it there since it is defined in the spec. JucaBlues commit log: added interactivity attributes to the object properties dialog. If you want to test it, create a new document, draw something, select it, ctrl+shift+O, expand the Interactivity expander and set: onclick to window.location="http://xkcd.com" onmouseover to this.style.cursor="pointer" Save as Inkscape SVG (currently not working for Plain SVG) then open this SVG file in Firefox to see the result.

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Error "Too many heap sections" on Windows
by unknown＠example.com 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

Hello, I encounter serious problems running inkscape with larger files, or using inkscape to build OpenStreetMap binaries. When the files become to large, I get the error message "Too many heap sections" and inkscape exits. There is a way to fix this, I found this: http://osdir.com/ml/programming.garbage-collection.boehmgc/2006-01/msg00006… And there is already a bug against inkscape: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/168914 Now I wanted to compile my own binary on windows, using the instructions in the Wiki. But the (usually helpful) devlibs already contain libgc.a, and I found no docs how to create this file :( I wanted to create libgc with the LARGE_CONFIG parameter in the makefile, and then build inkscape with this new libgc to check if the problem is gone ... Can anyone help me to do this, or point me to the appropriate docs? Thanks in advance! bbackde -- __________________________________________________ GnuPG key: (0x48DBFA8A) Keyserver: pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de Fingerprint: 477D F057 1BD4 1AE7 8A54 8679 6690 E2EC 48DB FA8A __________________________________________________

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potracelib.cpp breaking svn since r20512(?)
by Bernard Gray 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

Hi Folks, I'm trying to build inkscape on debian(sid) from the svn trunk - it fails with the error detailed below[1]: The last time that potracelib.cpp was touched was r20512: Revision: 20512 http://inkscape.svn.sourceforge.net/inkscape/?rev=20512&view=rev Author: tweenk Date: 2009-01-13 02:27:04 +0000 (Tue, 13 Jan 2009) Log Message: ----------- Improved version reporting. Add SVN revision and custom status to version string on Linux. ... inkscape/trunk/src/trace/potrace/potracelib.cpp ... That was over 2 days ago now, so I'm assuming others will be having the same issue - Am I missing something obvious wrong with my build process or is it broken? Regards, Bernie (cleary) [1]: Include/gtkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/gtkspell-2.0 -I../cxxtest -Werror=format-security -Wall -Wformat -Wformat-security -W -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter -g -O2 -fopenmp -MT trace/potrace/greymap.o -MD -MP -MF $depbase.Tpo -c -o trace/potrace/greymap.o trace/potrace/greymap.cpp &&\ mv -f $depbase.Tpo $depbase.Po depbase=`echo trace/potrace/potracelib.o | sed 's|[^/]*$|.deps/&|;s|\.o$||'`;\ g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/freetype2 -pthread -DORBIT2=1 -I/usr/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -DRELAYTOOL_CRYPTO='static const int libcrypto_is_present = 1; static int __attribute__((unused)) libcrypto_symbol_is_present(char *m) { return 1; }' -DRELAYTOOL_SSL='static const int libssl_is_present = 1; static int __attribute__((unused)) libssl_symbol_is_present(char *m) { return 1; }' -DHAVE_SSL -I/usr/include/libwpg-0.1 -I/usr/include/libwpd-0.8 -I/usr/include/poppler -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/poppler/glib -I/usr/include/poppler -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -DPOTRACE=\"potrace\" -D_REENTRANT -pthread -I/usr/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gdkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/glibmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/cairomm-1.0 -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/gtkspell-2.0 -I../cxxtest -Werror=format-security -Wall -Wformat -Wformat-security -W -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter -g -O2 -fopenmp -MT trace/potrace/potracelib.o -MD -MP -MF $depbase.Tpo -c -o trace/potrace/potracelib.o trace/potrace/potracelib.cpp &&\ mv -f $depbase.Tpo $depbase.Po trace/potrace/potracelib.cpp: In function 'char* potrace_version()': trace/potrace/potracelib.cpp:114: error: 'g_strdup_printf' was not declared in this scope make[2]: *** [trace/potrace/potracelib.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/media/store/tmp/inkscape-0.46+svn20090115-cle.2/src'

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] CMYK Proposal
by Guillermo Espertino 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

> * I think that we should remove the CMS tab from fill&stroke dialog. > Color profiles should be selected globaly for the whole document. > * Then, I think that we should display the palletes and the color > pickers with colors transformed by the currently selected profile. I made these mockups some time ago (sorry the spanglish :) http://www.ohweb.com.ar/screenshots/Inkscape My idea was to define the profiles and rendering intents for soft proofing in a per document basis. When I showed JonCruz the mockups, he explained to me that each graphic element in an SVG document can have its own profile, and gave me some reasons of why that dialog was better (which I didn't understand very well at the time and I can't remember now). I don't know any possible scenario where one could need different profiles in the same document, but I guess there is one (I'd really appreciate if someone explains it). When I worked with proprietary packages I only needed an RGB and CMYK profile for the document, and conversion between RGB and CMYK where performed considering those profiles. Maybe I'm missing some other usage cases that may need another combination. Gez

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Extension system
by Krzysztof Kosiński 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

Migrating to GIO for file handling means modifying the extension system rather extensively, so I think it might be worth refactoring it as well, keeping compatibility with existing extensions. Currently there is a class for every type of extension, but they don't define much - everything of substance is handled by the "implementation" class which contains methods for everything. A subclass of it is mandatory for every extension. I understand the reason for this was to support XSLT and script extensions transparently, but I don't think this is the proper way to do it. Since each extension only provides one function (either an effect, or an input filter, etc. but not more than one of those types at a time) the proper inheritance would be e.g.: Extension -> Output -> XsltOutput Extension -> Effect -> ScriptEffect Extension -> Input -> SvgzInput If there are common methods among XSLT or scripted extensions, those could be put in a separate class from which all other extensions implemented in this way derive (multiple inheritance). This wouldn't preclude putting more than one function/effect in the .inx file, since more than one object could be created for a given .inx file by the manager. There should also be a proper manager object, instead of some things being done via Extension::DB (which BTW is not a singleton but a statically constructed object) and some via global functions. GIO would be used in input and output extensions - parameters to save() and load() would be GInputStreams or GOutputStreams instead of filenames. This way extensions could save to memory and to remote locations without any special handling in the extensions themselves. Do you have any other ideas for improvements or changes? Regards, Krzysztof Kosiński -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Extension-system-tp21448270p21448270.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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spiro mode in freehand tool
by Thomas Holder 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Hi, spiro mode in freehand pen tool does not make sense. I'd suggest to remove the button. Even for bezier tool the spiro mode is not that useful, as you don't see the spiro while drawing (which would be nice indeed). But since you still draw beziers and spiro just gets applied _after_ path finishing, you could likewise apply it via the path effects dialog. Thomas

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CMYK Proposal
by Felipe Sanches 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

* I think that we should remove the CMS tab from fill&stroke dialog. Color profiles should be selected globaly for the whole document. * Then, I think that we should display the palletes and the color pickers with colors transformed by the currently selected profile. Comments, please. Juca

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango Icon Theme - Renewed - ALL ICONS MADE (I hope!)
by Guillermo Espertino 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

JonCruz wrote: > This does seem to match the behavior of one bug I'm working through. And after that is it finally possible that the Tango set will be the default icon set? The new Tango set needs a couple of minor bug fixes, but it looks pretty finished to me. I'm already using it, and I'd love to have it as default for 0.47 These icons look very professional and polished. The current set is ok, but it really doesn't honor the quality of Inkscape as the awesome program it is. I think a lot of people overlooks Inkscape because its look. Besides, the default icon sets in Scribus and Gimp are already Tango, so unifying them would be a nice step towards the idea of a truly free-software design workflow. Kudos to Jesusda and the Michael Grosberg for the excellent work in this theme. Gez

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Tango Icon Theme - Renewed
by jEsuSdA 8) 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Hello! I'm working hard to complete and bug-free the tango icon theme for Inkscape. Some bugs are solved, new icons are added and some old icons are retouched. Now I'm working to finish it, but some bugs are depending to the way the icons are show on toolbars and may be solved. ;) Please, report me the bugs and ideas you have to this work. Thanks! ;) INKSCAPE TANGO ICON THEME: http://jesusda.com/files/inkscape-tango-theme/ Salu2 de jEsuSdA 8)

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Disable the snapping toolbar
by Krzysztof Kosiński 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

I never use snapping, and this toolbar takes up lots of space (which I have in very short supply on a 1024x768 display)! Please add a way to turn it off ASAP. I haven't noticed any in the preferences. It would be best if right-clicking it brought up an option to disable the toolbar. Regards, Krzysztof Kosiński. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Disable-the-snapping-toolbar-tp21446041p21446041.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Inkscape dll imports
by Jasper van de Gronde 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

I've had a quick look at Inkscape's dll imports using dependency viewer, and it looks like it imports libpoppler3 about a dozen times or so... Any idea why it behaves like this? It might not directly give problems, but it seems a bit odd nonetheless.

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New Mac Build(s)
by step21 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Hey, I offered to do some mac builds on a more or less regular basis. I got native to build (but could build x11 too), and now I'm in the process of packaging it (there are still some issues with the app bundle script) I hope to resolve these tomorrow, or maybe write my own, simple script if that doesn't work. So anyway on irc verbalshadow just told me to say hi to the list and that eventual problems / upload possibilities would/could be handled here better. I'll continue with the packaging tomorrow cause it's going to be 5 am soonish, but currently I have the following issues if anyone has a quick thought on one of those. I was under the impression I could use osx-app.sh for native packaging too, but so far: (note: in the paths below /opt/local/ is the macports install path passed to "osx-app.sh" with --libraries) /opt/local/etc/pango/pangox.aliases is not in my macports install (which it tries to copy) so is this a file specific to x11 pango (pango was installed with macports using +no_x11 ofc) Also the script is looking for: /opt/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.0.dylib /opt/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.0.dylib Only in a native version those would have to be: /opt/local/lib/libgtk-quartz-2.0.0.dylib /opt/local/lib/libgdk-quartz-2.0.0.dylib And so far I'm not quite sure how it gets the impression that it needs the x11 version, at first I thought it was hardcoded in the script, but it's not. Best regards ...

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Version reporting improvement
by Krzysztof Kosiński 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

The CMake build system doesn't seem to be functional (link failure), so in the meantime I have an improvement to the Automake one. I added a micro-library libinkversion.a that contains only the version string. It is built from a single source file which is generated based on configure.ac $(VERSION) and SVN information (if present), and is only replaced if it changes. This way the About box always has the SVN revision, with only a relink necessary (it would have been necessary anyway in most cases). The version string looks like: 0.46+devel r20503 custom The first part is the version from configure.ac; The second is the SVN revision; the third part "custom" is only present if there are any files modified in the src/ directory with respect to the SVN repository (checked with svn status -q). Because of the way "svn info" works, the version will be wrong if you compile after commiting all changes (it won't have "custom" added even though it should). Currently I don't know how to handle this, but this shouldn't be a problem as this feature is mainly intended for users and testers. If anyone wants to fix this case, the code is in src/Makefile_insert Regards, Krzysztof Kosiński -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Version-reporting-improvement-tp21428431p21428431.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Fwd: [Openicc] [Printing-japan] My Color Management Patch for poppler has been accepted
by Alexandre Prokoudine 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter [at] gmail.com> Date: 2009/1/13 Subject: Re: [Openicc] [Printing-japan] My Color Management Patch for poppler has been accepted To: Koji Otani <sho [at] bbr.jp> $B','`'a'Z'q(B: "printing-architecture@...2115..." <printing-architecture@...2115...>, printing-japan@...2115..., OpenICC Liste <openicc@...626...> Does it mean that Poppler will have full Color Management support in its next release? Can you compare with Ghostscript 8.64? Which renderer will be better in color management then? Till Koji Otani wrote: > My color management patch has been accepted by poppler. > Now poppler can draw ICCBased color correctly. > It uses liblcms (little color management system library) and can > handle ICC Version 4 profiles. > > --------------------- > $BBgC+$G$9!#(B > > $B%+%i!<%^%M!<%8%a%s%H!&%Q%C%A$,(Bpoppler$B$N%j%]%8%H%j$K<h$jF~$l$i$l$^$7$?!#(B > ICC Based Color$BEy$r@...1333...$7$/I=<($G$-$k$h$&$K$J$j$^$7$?!#(B > > little color management system$B$r;HMQ$7$F$$$F!"(BICC Version 4$B$K$bBP1~$7(B > $B$F$$$^$9!#(B > _______________________________________________ > Printing-japan mailing list > Printing-japan@...2115... > https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-japan

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designing fonts within Inkscape
by Felipe Sanches 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Now users can design a font within inkscape, save it and then open the SVG file in Fontforge in order to export a truetype font (or other system font formarts fontforge supports). This improves previous workflow of font design using Inkscape which involved creating one SVG for each glyph. Now user only needs to create a single SVG file containing an SVGFont. Glyph kerning settings for the font can also be defined withing Inkscape itself with live preview. The kerning management still needs some improvements but is currently functional at least. Improvements in the SVGFonts dialog: * In Global Settings tab you can define the font family name. Other attributes should be added to this tab in the future. * Glyphs tab allows the user to: ** see a list (combobox) of glyphs available in the currently selected font. ** add/remove glyphs ** edit glyph name and unicode ** set the glyph curves based on a given path (selected from canvas). Same feature for the missing glyph. * Kerning tab allows user to: ** add new kerning pairs ** adjust kerning values of selected kerning pair ** live preview while adjusting the kerning values Code refactoring: * Inner classes DocumentProperties::SignalObserver and FilterEffectsDialog::SignalObserver were duplicated code and another instance would be needed in SVGFonts dialog. So, I moved it to Inkscape::XML::SignalObserver (in helper-observer.{cpp,h}) * changed SPGlyph->glyph_name and SPGlyph->unicode from char* to Glib::ustring * added sp_remove_resource to the release method in sp-font.cpp * glyph curves used to be stored (in d attribute) and rendered upside-down. Now that bug is fixed. Sorry about this huge commit. I got one week away from the Internet during a xmas travel. The lack of 'net connection made me work more intensely in Inkscape :-D Felipe Sanches

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SVG Fonts UI suggestions (and crash on text dropdown)
by Dave Crossland 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Hi Felipe! Truely, thanks for your great work on the SVG Fonts part of Inkscape. This is coming along fast and has great potential! :-) You asked for some ideas, and here's a small flood of them; I'll CC the inkscape-deve list too so there is a public record. Feel free to put any of this into the feature-tracker or whatever if its useful :-) I just built the current SVN build, if I put down some text with the text tool this non fatal error appears on sterr: ** (inkscape:1119): WARNING **: Family name Bitstream Vera Sans does not have an entry in the font lister.** And then if I select the font drop down, Inkscape aborts: ------ ERROR:xml/repr-css.cpp:52:void sp_repr_css_attr_unref(SPCSSAttr*): assertion failed: (css != NULL) Emergency save activated! Emergency save document locations: New document 1.2009_01_13_09_57_54.0.svg Emergency save completed. Inkscape will close now. If you can reproduce this crash, please file a bug at www.inkscape.org with a detailed description of the steps leading to the crash, so we can fix it. Aborted ------ This happens even if it is the very first thing I do :-( If I avoid doing this, and go to Text menu, SVG Fonts, I can see easily how to make a new font, rename it "aaaa" as a ID and as a Family Name, add a glyph, give it a Unicode character encoding by typing one, and draw a large glyph on the canvas and click "get curves from selection" to add it to the font. If I then select a text box, go to Text menu, Text and Fonts, I can't find this font in the list of fonts. :-( So that would be the #1 feature to add :-) Also if I make a textbox and write and select a few chars I added to the svgfont and then some I didn't - "abczx" - and click the "Missing Glyph: From selection" button, nothing happens. In terms of the font UI, there its lots of things to do, but the current features are really quite a long way there :-) I think its very useful to look at the essential type design features in FontForge today: http://dave.lab6.com/acid/dump/2009/2008-01-13_inkscape_fonts.png http://dave.lab6.com/acid/dump/2009/2008-01-13 fontforge essential design features original.png http://dave.lab6.com/acid/dump/2009/2008-01-13 fontforge essential design features marked.png In Z-reading-order: * Tabs for different recently edited glyphs * status information about the pointer and currently selected point, or points, giving context such as distance between the points, angle between the points, distance from pointer to point * glyph palette so users can see a table of glyphs, either "compact" to just those already in the font (as shown) or "full" which includes table items for all the glyphs in the current encoding (Fontforge default) * Layers palette that has 2 layers like normal inkscape layers, Fore and Back, and also a Guide layer that appears on all glyphs * A second window (Like View menu, Duplicate Window) for looking at (and easily editing) other similar glyphs while editing the current glyph * A 'reading text' preview, which can be varied by DPI, point size, antialiasing toggled. Also, it should generate the preview text only using the currently instantiated glyphs, as FontForge has implemented with public code in its font dialog, and http://adhesiontext.com/ also implements. * A 'kerning/metrics' preview, with a table of the right bearing value, the implicit total width and left bearing values, and kerning pair exceptions to these. The FontForge window allows spacing to be done interactively by dragging glyphs, which is nice. With setting metrics, you'd place the char you are spacing in the context of n's and then o's to get a feel for its rhythm with these common shapes. So you might start with nonoaonon And then try ononanono And then ooooaoooo nnnnannnn anananana aoaoaoaoa * A 2nd metrics preview that is used to keep a nice large live-preview of glyphs "blacked in" which is used similarly to the 'reading text' view. This is the current 'preview text' area of the SVG fonts pane, except with a white background. Here are some suggestions about the current UI, then: Kerning list tab: have a 3rd column listing the kerning value number, which is editable as a number. Glyph list tab: have a 3rd column listing the individual glyph width (currently can't see a way to change this at all, only the global width) Glyph list tab: Being able to load a FontForge 'encoding names' list, which is just a text file like this: 0x005F underscore 0x0060 grave 0x0061 a 0x0062 b These are created via FontForge's FontView window, Encoding menu, "Save namelist of font" item. Glyph list tab: have ability to show Unicode values in other typical formats, like 0xABCD. General: Once a set of curves have been selected and 'got' associated with a glyph, I delete them by modifying them to create the next glyph. If I then want to go back and change an existing glyph, I can see no way to reinstantiate it on the canvas and edit it. Glyphs: Having visual displays as well as the lists currently in place generally, and here a glyph palette sub-tab that is clickable instead of a list of glyph names and Unicode values; General: A new tab for metrics with interactive and tablular access to the 4 metrics values, plus kerning pair values; Preview area: Previewing its own tab, and being able to change the size of the preview text with a slider, and a number input to specify exact point size, and panning along the preview if the preview-string is long. General: When a tool palette is floated, such as the Align and Distribute palette, it has certain sections. A+D has 'align' 'distribute' 'remove overlaps' ' connector' and 'nodes'. It would be nice to be able to float these individually, but I guess this is a limit of GTK. With the SVG Font palette, there are tabs instead, and I hope it might be possible to make these 'floatable' more easily. For example the kerning tab quickly gets a long list of pairs, and if I'm working just on the metrics at the moment, I don't want to clutter up the screen with the other parts of the single huge palette at the moment. The "Icon Preview" code might be usefully integrated to help people draw pixel fonts... haha Okay I think that's enough for now, I look forward to seeing your progress! :-) Cheers, Dave

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango Icon Theme - Renewed - NEW ICONS and complete SNAPPING TOOLBAR ICONS.
by jEsuSdA 8) 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

El Lunes, 12 de Enero de 2009 21:03:22 escribió: > On 01/12/2009 08:40 PM, jEsuSdA 8) wrote: > > Please, use the 1.16 version to update the svn. ;) > > I noticed the newer v1.17, which was probably created after you send > your e-mail. Shouldn't I use that one? Yes! Whith the last version (1.17) I solved a bug related with paint-bucket tool and dark themes. (http://jesusda.com/files/inkscape-tango-theme/preview-tango-paint-bucket-bu…) > BTW, are you aware of this: > http://www.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/HowToEditIcons ? > > This does make the file smaller, but I don't know if it really helps in > speed. Apparently Bulia thinks it does make a difference. Or even you > already did it that way? Well, whatever, I don't really care, I just > wanted to inform you :-) Thanks for the info. I did not know about that. If I have time, I will try it. ;) > Thanks, > Diederik Thank you! ;)

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Tango Icon Theme - Renewed - NEW ICONS and complete SNAPPING TOOLBAR ICONS.
by jEsuSdA 8) 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

El Lunes, 12 de Enero de 2009 18:52:31 escribió: > On 01/12/2009 05:16 PM, jEsuSdA 8) wrote: > > The second one is that I add the new snapping toolbar icons to the theme, > > then now is 100% complete. > > Wow, that's fast! It's only a day old! And they look great! > > There's only one minor detail though: the dashed blue lines for the > bounding boxes should stop at the bounding box corner. The dashed blue > lines for the grid/guides (in the rightmost icon) are OK though. But as > I said, that's only a minor issue and might not even be noticed on a > pixel level. Ok! I see! I fixed it., a new version is uploaded. ;) > I can change it for you if you want, because I don't know if you've got > direct access to SVN. Thanks! Please, use the 1.16 version to update the svn. ;) INKSCAPE TANGO ICON THEME: http://jesusda.com/files/inkscape-tango-theme/ > Diederik Salu2 de jEsuSdA 8)

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Inkscape20490-0901102133 crashing on startup
by Mourad Mokrane 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Hi, On Vista Home Premium SP1 Inkscape20490-0901102133 crashes on startup with an "encountered internal error" message. Looks like the windows test builds are not being produced for 3 days now, when Can windows users expect a new one? Best regards, Mourad Mokrane Art director Lumen Media s.r.o. www.lumenstudio.net

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Shift + Draw Improvement
by Ivan Louette 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Hello ! As a designer I am a fan of the Shift + Draw feature which is so useful for example when using the Calligraphy tool. As a svg filter effects designer and because objects groups management is promised to increase in importance in this area I would suggest an improvement to it. At the moment if you select a path, press Shift and draw, when you release the Shift key the newly created path combines with the previously selected one. What I would suggest is : - if the selection is an object it would work like it does now, combining the paths ; - if the selection is a group, then when you release the Shift key your new path (or any newly created object) is simply added to this selected group. That could add a new functionality to this feature without changing anything in the UI ! kindly, ivan

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Intrested student
by Felipe Sanches 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I don't understand a lot about it. But I would tell you that the basic need is to separate inkscape code in at least 2 threads: one for rendering and the other one for user interface (functional parallelism), so that the user interface dont get non-responsive when the user is dealing with a drawing too complex that requires a lot of cpu power. Another thing that could be interesting is to use multithreading to speed up inkscape's algorithms. There are algorithms that we use that can be separated in various threads (data parallelism) so that multicore users will benefit from better performance (each CPU core chews a piece of the data at the same time). There is already one feature in Inkscape using data paralelism. It is the algorithm that renders the gaussian blur filtering primitive. We have used OpenMP to implement the threading of this algorithm. It detects the number of cores you have in your machine and then decides in how many threads it will split the for loops. But it wasn't coded by me. I am just telling you what I heard here on the list and on IRC. I guess we should keep this conversation on the list so that other people could help you too. Juca On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Dmitry <dmitry.jurasov@...400...> wrote: > > > FS> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Dmitry <dmitry.jurasov@...400...> wrote: > >>> Hello inkscape-devel, >>> >>> My name is Dmitry, I'm a student from Russia. I'm interested in >>> developing your project and participating in next Summer of Code (2009). >>> I want to know about ideas, which I can take part in. And I'm going to >>> make this work to be my master thesis at University. >>> > > Monday, December 1, 2008, 7:17:16 PM, you wrote: > > FS> Maybe somebody could try to use openmp in all of the SVGFilters code, but I > FS> think that this would be too simple for your master thesis. > FS> Indeed, it would be much better if somebody ported the filtering code to > FS> cairo, and then used it in inkscape. This would be a bit harder since it > FS> would be necessary to define a cairo API for filter effects. > > FS> But if you wish to work on inkscape related stuff in your master thesis, > FS> then I think that it should be something really hard. The first thing that I > FS> can think about is the process of porting the SPObject and all of its > FS> derived classes to C++ > > FS> Also, another thing that is possibly hard enough for your thesis is > FS> implementing threading in Inkscape. > > FS> Juca > > Hello Felipe, I want to know more about thread implementing in > Inkscape. > > -- > Best regards, > Dmitry mailto:Dmitry.Jurasov@...400... > >

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More than two months of rendering tests
by Jasper van de Gronde 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I've run the rendering tests for a bit more than two months now, usually roughly once a week. The results have actually been relatively stable, considering all the refactoring work going on. However, there have been a few notable changes. The good news: the number of passed tests has gone from 96 to 105 and the number of failed tests from 65 to 56. The bad news: we have three tests that crash at the moment (introduced between 2008-12-28 and 2009-01-04), and some of the changes in the number of passed tests were due to a rejudging of some the filter outputs (basically there appear to be at least one or two wrong references in the W3C test suite, and Inkscape currently simply doesn't handle the color-interpolation properties, while the actual filters are fine). You can get more details at: http://home.hccnet.nl/th.v.d.gronde/inkscape/ResultViewer.html I intend to continue running the tests as before in the near future, but am still most definitely interested in any additional help in further automating these tests and/or writing the tests. Specifically: - I currently run these tests by starting a batch file on my notebook, basically when I feel like it. A machine which could run this using a timer would be great (it would have to compile inkscape, run the tests and upload the result, possibly generating an e-mail if there are any regressions). - I currently judge any new results (so results which don't match any existing reference). Usually this is fine (most of the time there are only about 1-3 new results), but any help would be appreciated. Of course this would be a lot easier if the machine running the tests could also serve the output images (then a small on-line application could be made for letting people judge the new results). - I'd like to change the comparison algorithm used. Currently I'm using perceptualdiff, but I would like to use something which simply allows for a given error threshold (maximum error and/or rms error). Obviously extra bonus points for an algorithm that can do something sensible for comparing curves (the SVG standard says something about curves having to be within one pixel of the "true" curve or something). - Any additional tests (based on bug reports for example) would obviously be welcome. - I'd love to be able to link a bug report to a certain fail result (linking it to a file is probably not a good idea, as one test may exhibit different bugs over time). Any ideas and/or implementations for doing this would be great. Note that currently the system cannot distinguish between two fail references, so some easy way of specifying for which outputs the bug holds would be very nice.

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Color-interpolation properties
by Jasper van de Gronde 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I found out at least one source of differences in rendering of filters between Inkscape and Batik/W3C test suite, and that's the color-interpolation-filters property. This property determines the color space used for filter operations (color-interpolation does the same for gradients and normal compositing), and Inkscape doesn't support it at the moment. The problem is that by default color-interpolation is set to sRGB and color-interpolation-filters to linearRGB (sRGB before the gamma adjustment)... There was probably some rationale for this, but it's a pretty big nuisance, as it means that we'll probably have to convert to and from linearRGB for each application of filtering (as the conversion is very much non-linear). Also, this means that pretty much any file that uses filters should actually be rendered differently from how it is rendered now (and often quite visibly different). So it might be a good idea to do something about this ASAP, to minimize the impact. So, now my question is: What to do about this? There are a number of possibilities. First of all, Inkscape could start setting the color-interpolation-filters property to use sRGB. This would probably be a very quick "fix" and at least ensure that any new files created with Inkscape will render the same in other (compliant) viewers. Obviously this wouldn't resolve problems with current files. The main other possibility is to add support for color-interpolation-filters. Obviously this is the right thing to do in the long run, but it's also tricky to do it right. Quality (and probably performance) wise it would likely be best to allow the conversion to be part of the filter, as for example gaussian blur already uses increased precision internally and could apply the conversions with little loss in quality. However, it would obviously be much easier to simply write conversion functions and call them before and after applying any filters. And even if support for color-interpolation-filters is added, it might still make sense to set it to sRGB (or set color-interpolation to linearRGB), as letting the settings be different results in non-intuitive behaviour like having normal compositing behaving differently from the equivalent feBlend and feComposite modes.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] Clear Open recent?
by Felipe Sanches 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

I have added a button to the Interface page in the Inkscape preferences dialog that will remove all items of the "File -> Open Recent" menu. The code was commited in the svn revision number 20503 and the feature will probably be in the next stable release, I hope. Could anybory review my code, please? It is the first time I deal with GtkRecentManager. Could you please review it, Bulia? Juca On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:51 PM, bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...2113...> wrote: >> Is it possible to clear the list of documents in >> File -> Open recent? > > Only by manual editing your preferences.xml - you need to delete all > children of <group id="recent">. Or just delete the file, but then you > will also lose all other settings). > > -- > bulia byak > Inkscape. Draw Freely. > http://www.inkscape.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It is the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >

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extension namespace
by Thomas Holder 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

Hi there, is it possible to make the new namespace for inx files optional? I see no real benefit for the namespace, but it is a real drawback that all previous custom extensions will become invalid (until you add the namespace to the inx files). When we release 0.47 lots of users will be confused and will report bugs for this I guess. Thomas

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3D importing
by Alexandre Prokoudine 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

Hi, Since recently we have an OBJ importer in form of an extension. IIRC there was a debate how this extension should be implemented better (real importer vs. extension). So, I've just stumbled upon http://assimp.sourceforge.net/ -- Open Asset Import Library, which is designed to help importing various 3D scene files into applications. It covers not just Obj, but also 15 more file formats, including 3D Max and the like. Could be a good GSoC2009 project for somebody, especially if importing would come with live preview :) Alexandre

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Tr : Inkscape 0.46 Devel Dependencies
by Ivan Louette 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

That's allright now ! I did a mistake in the package source address... Inkscape 0.46 Devel runs now on my Kubuntu ! I am happy to be able to continue filters development. That will be a little bit slower because at the moment I am very busy to write a book. But these days I also tried the compatibilities between Inkscape and Fontforge and I am sure svg filters will add something new in my font creation ideas... Thanks to everybody here for the hard work ! Very friendly ivan ________________________________ ----- Message transféré ---- De : Ivan Louette <ivan_louette@...48...> À : Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Envoyé le : Dimanche, 11 Janvier 2009, 17h29mn 41s Objet : Inkscape 0.46 Devel Dependencies Hello ! This is my first message here. Sorry of it's not the appropriate place to post. When I try to install 0.46 Devel by Synaptic on my Kubuntu 8.10 I get this message : Dépend: libpoppler-glib2 (>=0.6) but it is not installable Dépend: libpoppler2 (>=0.6) but it is not installable I hope that can help ! ivan

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Inkscape 0.46 Devel Dependencies
by Ivan Louette 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

Hello ! This is my first message here. Sorry of it's not the appropriate place to post. When I try to install 0.46 Devel by Synaptic on my Kubuntu 8.10 I get this message : Dépend: libpoppler-glib2 (>=0.6) but it is not installable Dépend: libpoppler2 (>=0.6) but it is not installable I hope that can help ! ivan

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Calling init_gtkmm_internals()
by Jasper van de Gronde 10 Jan '09

10 Jan '09

I found that to make rendering of feImage filters work correctly I have to call Gtk::Main::init_gtkmm_internals() before trying to use Gdk::Pixbuf. If this is not done it complains about not being able to wrap GdkPixbuf. With this change it suddenly seems to work just fine. However, I have no idea where it should be put. At the moment I put it in nr-filter-image.cpp (because that was were the problem was occurring), but it would probably be better to do it while starting Inkscape. However, it should also be called for Inkview. And perhaps it should be called after/before some other things? So, if someone who is a bit more familiar with GtkMM (and Inkscape's initialization) could have a look at this, that would be great. This very simply change will make feImage's with references to files work automagically :) (There are probably still a few caveats, but still.)

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JavaFX 1.0 support
by Adam Giemza 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

Hello all, I know from this blog http://silveiraneto.net/2008/11/21/inkscape-and-javafx-working-together/ that there is JavaFX support build in the latest (0.46) build. BUT the problem is, that this support is for pre-1.0 releases of JavaFX. Silveira (the guy from the blog) postet in his todo list, that the 1.0 support will come on Dec. 2nd. But there is still nothing in this direction, right? I posted a comment on his blog, asking for the progres without any reaction. Maybe somebody here can take up this topic. Would be very much appreciated! Cheers, deradam (Also posted in the InkscapeForum -> http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2091)

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Intrested student
by Dmitry 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

Hello inkscape-devel, My name is Dmitry, I'm a student from Russia. I'm interested in developing your project and participating in next Summer of Code (2009). I want to know about ideas, which I can take part in. And I'm going to make this work to be my master thesis at University. -- Best regards, Dmitry mailto:Dmitry.Jurasov@...400...

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Inkscape and good causes
by Josh Andler 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

Hey all, I decided to pass this along as it is in the same basic spirit of open source with the attitude of doing something for a cause greater than one's self (our global community). Recently there was a contest held on DeviantART to promote breast cancer awareness and early prevention that was sponsored by DeviantART, MGM (yes, the studio), and the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation. With over 1,400 submissions spanning all kinds of art forms imaginable, the Grand Prize Winner chosen was by one of our Inkscapers on DA (and yes she used Inkscape for this), Loraine A. Baird, aka QuicheLoraine. The competition results are here (which contains a link to her winning entry, but also shows a few runners up for reference): http://news.deviantart.com/article/66804/ And her gallery which contains quite a bit of excellent work done in inkscape can be seen here: http://quicheloraine.deviantart.com/gallery/ Congratulations to her, and if you have a DA account it would be nice to drop by and leave her a comment. Cheers, Josh

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Where is the trunk?
by Kent Tenney 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Howdy, bzr branch lp:inkscape returns revno 7159 dated 2008-11-19 Is this the dev trunk? Thanks, Kent

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compile error rev 20476
by bulia byak 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

pencil-context.cpp: In function 'void sketch_interpolate(SPPencilContext*)': pencil-context.cpp:827: error: no matching function for call to 'lerp(Geom::Piecewise<Geom::D2<Geom::SBasis> >&, Geom::Piecewise<Geom::D2<Geom::SBasis> >&, double&)' ./2geom/point.h:211: note: candidates are: Geom::Point Geom::lerp(double, Geom::Point, Geom::Point) ./2geom/linear.h:51: note: double Geom::lerp(double, double, double) please always recompile before committing... -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Inkscape logo Public Domain? Can't be right.
by Cory K. 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

I ran across this today. Is there no peer review on Open Clip Art? http://openclipart.org/media/files/baabullah/10665 -Cory K.

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Translating filters.svg
by Ted Gould 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Okay, So I think I just committed everything to make it so that filters.svg is translatable. Since I'm not a translator, it's hard to be 100% sure. Could a translator please try to translate the filters and reply? Thanks in advance, Ted

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] New Mac Build(s)
by Henning Meyer 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Regarding CMake I'd like to say there's also CPack, which enables generation of Installation-Packages for different platforms alongside CMake. This also works for Macs. http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake:Component_Install_With_CPack > Hey, > I offered to do some mac builds on a more or less regular basis. I > got native to build (but could build x11 too), and now I'm in the > process of packaging it (there are still some issues with the app > bundle script) I hope to resolve these tomorrow, or maybe write my > own, simple script if that doesn't work. So anyway on irc verbalshadow > just told me to say hi to the list and that eventual problems / upload > possibilities would/could be handled here better. > I'll continue with the packaging tomorrow cause it's going to be 5 am > soonish, but currently I have the following issues if anyone has a > quick thought on one of those. I was under the impression I could use > osx-app.sh for native packaging too, but so far: > (note: in the paths below /opt/local/ is the macports install path > passed to "osx-app.sh" with --libraries) > /opt/local/etc/pango/pangox.aliases is not in my macports install > (which it tries to copy) so is this a file specific to x11 pango > (pango was installed with macports using +no_x11 ofc) > Also the script is looking for: > /opt/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.0.dylib > /opt/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.0.dylib > Only in a native version those would have to be: > /opt/local/lib/libgtk-quartz-2.0.0.dylib > /opt/local/lib/libgdk-quartz-2.0.0.dylib > And so far I'm not quite sure how it gets the impression that it needs > the x11 version, at first I thought it was hardcoded in the script, > but it's not.

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Manually change language in preference dialogue
by the Adib 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Hi all, I yust want to inform you that I commited some code to change the language of the user-interface within the preferences dialogue. thats all, happy new year!!! Adib.

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Inkscape release schedule and project items
by Josh Andler 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Hey all, First, an official Happy New Year to you all! I'm breaking down this email into a few sections below. Releases: A newer release of Inkscape will be going into the next distro release cycle. Whether this is 0.46.1 or 0.47 is what needs to be determined. I know that with at least a handful of us, there is a great desire to make it 0.47. However, this may not be feasible (or preferable) for any number of reasons. A vote is definitely in order for this. We should have some sort of brief discussion about what are the most compelling reasons to either make it 0.47 or not 0.47. (I am aware that 0.46.1 has been discussed before, I've unfortunately had health issues preventing me from actively working on it, but with my current doctor downtime, should be doable) Build Systems: Discussion of the possibility of switching build systems to cmake or btool has resurfaced again recently. It seems like the obvious goals should be that we use one build system on all platforms and it be something that is maintainable by multiple individuals. From my understanding all three build systems in the mix are crossplatform. Is there an updated comparison list of the benefits and drawbacks of each? Personal experiences? Given that I almost exclusively build on linux these days, it doesn't impact me greatly and I don't really have a preference. Version Control: In the past we also discussed potentially switching to a dvcs such as git or bzr. I'm pretty sure we all know the benefits of using a dvcs, and it seems (I may be wrong) that a modern dvcs is a little friendlier with tags and branches (which would be nice to use more in the future). We have a handful of people who I know are working with bzr on a regular basis, would anyone like to chime in on if it seems like a good "successor" to svn for our project and if it would be a worthwhile switch? Bryce, Ted, Mental, Kees? Anyone think git would be a better choice? Future Releases: After this extremely long development cycle, and the amount of future refactoring we're still looking to do, I think we need a new stable/devel branching strategy for the future. Or at the very least, a bleeding edge branch for GSoCers and the like in addition to main devel. Also, it would be great to have regular releases that tie into the distro release cycles (with minimal benefit of easy PR). Anyone else care to chime in? That's all for now... I think the next release should be the top priority to vote on and discuss now, because if people want it to be 0.47, we need to get crackin'. Cheers, Josh

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views bound to rectangles
by Jody Palmer 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

I would like to be able to add svg view tags like <view id="myview" viewBox="34 38 92 99"> </view> and have the bounds of the viewbox be associated with a rectangle. Ideally it would be bound to the rectangle so that editing the rectangle size, shape or position would modify the view. The purpose is to allow me to link between SVG diagrams in a useful way. Is this supported? Is anyone working on it already? If not and I can find the time to implement it, would it be a useful contribution? Any suggestions or comments are welcome (remember that I have not yet seen the code base). - Jody

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intro for developers
by Alexandre Prokoudine 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Hi, Recently a person reported to out bug tracker that the website doesn't provide good introduction information for new developers. So I've just taken a look at http://inkscape.org/doc/devdocs.php and I have several questions: 1. Do you find this information overall sufficient? 2. Last changes to http://inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/DeveloperManual date back to February 2007. Would anyone mind having a look and saying whether something needs changes? (btw, our wiki outputs errors again) 3. Does the flowchart at http://inkscape.org/doc/devdocs.php really reflect current state of source code? 4. Same question about class hierarchy image. Thanks! :) Alexandre

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find match
by Alexandre Prokoudine 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Hi, So somebody posted this extension recently to the wiki: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FindMatch What do you think? Alexandre

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testsuite painting-marker-02-f.svg
by unknown＠example.com 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

Hi all, I am working on some testsuite fails, and am now stuck on painting-marker-02-f.svg. Apparently, the stroke thickness of the markers should be inherited from the path they are on. This does not work in Inkscape. How should this inheritence be done? (is there an example of how this is usually done in inkscape?) Thanks, Johan

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] CMake status
by Alexander Neundorf 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

Hi all, by Aaron Spike-2 Dec 31, 2008; 01:12pm ... > If you have some CMake experience and would be willing to help us to > perfect the CMake based build system for Inkscape, your help and patches > would be much much appreciated. We would really benefit from someone > with experience showing us best practices and helping us to make it work. > > Of course, this invitation is open to everyone! > > Aaron Spike I'm the maintainer of the cmake based buildsystem for KDE4, which works on Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD, OSX and Windows both with MSVC and mingw. While I don't have the time to actually help with your cmake stuff, I can answer questions and provide tips how to do things/where to look for stuff. Alex

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] CMake status
by Alexander Neundorf 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

by J.B.C.Engelen Dec 31, 2008; 01:18am ... > The problem we had with cmake was that it puts obj files in some special dir > that is long, and then creates a commandline like: > g++ verylongpathlisting/blah.o possiblyevenlongerpathname/blah2.o ... > such that the cmdline is too long to work with windows/g++ > > Johan With which version of cmake ? I don't use Windows, but I know that some fixes for command lines which were too long went into cmake, so I think it probably works with CMake 2.6.2. Alex

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] CMake status
by Alexander Neundorf 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

by the Adib Dec 30, 2008; 11:25am > > Hi, I would like to use a widely used build-system on Windows as well. > currently a build process lasts ages. I hope using some parallel build > feature. I want make -j4 > > Adib. nmake doesn't support this. But you can use a GNU make also with the MS cl compiler, e.g. the one from cygwin, mingw or unxutils. This is supported by CMake: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_Generator_Specific_Information#Makefile_gen… Alex

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