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clipartbrowser 0.41
by Greg Steffensen 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

I'm releasing another version of the clip art browser. Lots of bug fixes, some performance improvements, code cleanups, and a new installation procedure (yes, yet another). Installation is now 3 steps, and hopefully easier than ever: 1) Satisfy the dependencies of Python 2.4 and PyGTK 2.6. 2) Download and run the following script, which installs the python setuptools: http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py 3) Run "easy_install clipartbrowser" As you can see, I've switched the installation system from Makefiles to the python setuptools. The setuptools are still under development (they're apparently going to be included in python 2.5), and I'm still very much learning how to use them, so the packaging isn't as polished as it needs to be, but this makes installation a breeze. Eventually, it should allow arbitrary python dependencies to be intelligently installed as well using the same process. I'm still working on getting this integrated back into the Inkscape effects menu, that's next on the list. As always, feedback greatly appreciated. Greg

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Inkscape on past, actual and future releases of tux magazine
by Guillermo Movia 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

The Tux magazine (www.tuxmagazine.com) of october, begins with a three number series of lessons of graphic design with Inkscape. I think this is a good new. Guillermo

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localization problems
by Arpad Biro 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

Hi, After installing Inkscape from current CVS, the following menu entries appear in English in my (otherwise) localized environment: _Edit _View _Layer _Object _Path _Text Effects _Help File/_New File/Open _Recent Help/Tutorials The rest of the UI appears localized. Could someone please test this on his localized system? Arpad Biro __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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In the press
by Nicu Buculei 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

Do you remember some week ago when an editor requested screenshots for a Romanian computer magazine? I just saw it in the stands and purchased one: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2005/09/inkscape-in-press-mylinux.html -- nicu

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Hard Freeze Lifted: insufficient stability
by Peter Moulder 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Existing show-stoppers will take sufficient amount of time, and will involve sufficiently non-trivial bug fixes, that it is more productive to lift the hard freeze for the moment. However, the feature freeze remains. Currently, our best plan for making a release soon involves backing out (or at least disabling) the following changes: - SPDesktop C++ification. This transformation was too rushed; has introduced at least two show-stoppers. Clean-up changes are good, but should be done cautiously, e.g. by breaking into small changes that can each be verified with reasonable confidence. The SPDesktop change has demonstrated itself not to be safe, so we'll back it out. - Connectors. Michael is now back from overseas and can work on this, but its current state (with crashes) isn't releasable. - menus.xml. Introduces menu localization problem. It has been useful in allowing ppl to play with the menu layout, but there's no particular reason for the functionality to be in the released stable version: it is currently for experimenters rather than customizers, as the file format still doesn't handle when menu items get added or removed from the default menu layout (e.g. new or changed functionality). Most remaining bugs are either not regressions (so don't present a reason not to replace 0.42.2); or are platform-specific (so I can't test whether they're regressions or not, and we could consider updating inkscape on other platforms in any case); or have a priority number lower than about 7 so I've assumed they aren't show-stoppers. (I forget whether I've looked at all priority-7 bugs or not.) pjrm.

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Webform/Contact
by Wolfram Quester 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Hi, I'm happy about the new webform, it seems to become quite accepted. I wonder however if people will perceive the link if the topic moves out of the first news. Wouldn't it be better to add a "Contact" item in the menu in the Developer section? Especially now as the mails are directed to the developer's ML? With best wishes, Wolfi

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WEBFORM submission form with subject
by Caliga 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Message from Inkscape submission form Please note, that the submitter may not read this list. CC your answer to the submitter name: Caliga email: inkscape@...985... submitted the following: there you are. (if this will work ;) BTW, how can a set of colors be copyrighted? i know pantore is a registered trademark, but there\'s nothing special in a set of colors. also, cliparts may contain all of the pantone colors without a problem. why shouldn\'t a palette? maybe you should not name it pantone. but if i got that right, gimp also uses it!?

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] FOP (SVG2PDF)
by Bob Jamison 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Tom Epperly wrote: > > What does this mean? > > [epperly@...1015... fop-0.20.5]$ ./fop.sh master.fo -pdf output.pdf > [INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser as SAX2 Parser > [INFO] FOP 0.20.5 > [INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser as SAX2 Parser > [INFO] building formatting object tree > [INFO] setting up fonts > [INFO] [1] > [ERROR] Could not load external SVG: The current document is unable to > create an element of the requested type (namespace: > http://www.w3.org/2000/svg, name: flowRoot). > [ERROR] Error while creating area : No ImageReader for this type of > image (file:BabelShowcase.svg) > [INFO] Parsing of document complete, stopping renderer > [epperly@...1015... fop-0.20.5]$ > I would suggest "flattening" a copy of the svg document by converting the difficult parts such as text, to Paths, then saving as "plain svg". See if that works. Isn't <flowRoot> new to SVG 1.2? (still a draft, not a spec yet). If so, there are likely few renderers that support it. Bob

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] WEBFORM
by Cory Sytsma 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

I've attached the file, so you guys can do with it what you'd like. If attachments don't make it through the listserv, let me know, and I can paste the contents into an email I did put a request into Pantone, asking about including a color swatch with Inkscape, in the same way that Illustrator and others have Pantone palettes. We'll see what they say. -Cory -----Original Message----- From: Ralf Stephan [mailto:ralf@...748...] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 12:56 AM To: Cory Sytsma Cc: Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] WEBFORM Nicu: > Bryce Harrington wrote: > >Thanks, although to our knowledge the Pantone colors are not > >legally > >redistributable, so I don't think we can include them in Inkscape. > >You > >might want to doublecheck this fact though, just in case... > > but is not possible to use the swatch is some way, like change the > name of individual colors and the name of the set and use it like > that? maybe change the order of colors? does not suffice because there is now something like a copyright on collections. this was introduced to protect the database industry, and forced on the int'l community. OTOH, I fail to see any problems with, say 75% of the colors, without any name. ralf

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WEBFORM
by thomas 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Please note, that the submitter may not read this list name: thomas email: t.seeger@...123... submitted the following: Ich mÃ¶chte eine E-Mail an die Progammierer senden aber ich finde die E-Mail Adresse nicht. I would like to send a E-Mail to the program creator but I find not the E-Mail address. Mit freundlichen GrÃ¼Ãen with best greet Thomas

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LJ's Readers' Choice Awards: 2nd Place
by unknown＠example.com 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

On page 84 of the November 2005 Linux Journal Inkscape has been awarded second place in the Favorite Graphics Program category. Congratulation guys! Aaron Spike

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Improve Inkscape Terminology
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Hi! We had some discussions on how to translate some expressions to german. Colin felt that we can only use "better fitting" terms if the english ones are also adapted... i think, terms should be self-explanatory, if possible. live shape for example: if you translate that to german and back you might get lifeform ;) well, i know Nortons live update also doesn't improve health, but anyway, a direct translation is impossible So, here are some suggestion of me: live shape -> dynamic shape (because it is similar to dynamic offset) dynamic offset -> dynamic object/form/shape well, maybe live shapes and dynamic offsets should not have the same name, but still they act similar. but "object with dynamic outline" is a bit cumbersome. linked offset this is hard. i'd name it "linked dynamic object" or "controlled dynamic objekt" even more "dynamic object (controlled)" because it is just the same than the parent object, plus it can be controlled by the parent object. maybe the objects name could be "dynamic object (controlled)" and the menu entry "create controlled dynamic object" or "derive controlled dynamic object" also this menu entry should only be available if a dynamic object is selected, but this may be a different topic ;) inset/outset (this is more a german problem, we just couln't find an appropriate translation) also not so simple, as "shrink" / "expand" (current german translation, there is no in/outset in german) do not really tell, that this is not a resize. Is that correct, that this scales orthogonal to the normal? how could this be expressed? a few days ago we voted for "aussenkontur/innenkontur", meaning sth. like "outer/inner contour" but now i think this is wrong, as is does not create a new outline, but scale the original object. hm... new ideas: path -> translate outwards ("nach außen versetzen" oder "nach außen setzen") path -> translate inwards ("nach innen versetzen" oder "nach innen setzen") path -> expand ("expandieren" oder "nach außen erweitern") path -> collapse ( ??? oder "nach innen ???) well... maybe we can just leave that one... colin: i just thought we could return to "schrumpfen" and "ausdehnen" but in fact, not the path is shrinked, but the surrounded area: more slim/slenderize ("schlanker"/"abnehmen") and rise ("zunehmen") another thing is, that inset/outset does not reflect that it is similar to the dynamic offset (or better dynamic object) phew... enough said and done for today... Caliga

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] FOP (SVG2PDF)
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

>>>Thus creation of previously announced Üver-Convertor (I'm lost for >>>words to express my disagreement with this nietschianish name, >>>actually) is quite a good solution. >>> >>> >>Heh. You're not the first. It started as a working title and sort of >>stuck, but right now it seems to be about 50/50 for and against the >>name (I wonder why that is?) >> >> > >Why? >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche and >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch > > weehihi :) First i *really* had to think what's about nitzsche and "Über" :) Maybe you should realize that Germans use "über" in more than 99,99% in absolutely different and normal contexts. Maybe the translation of a common folksong will be more pleasant: "Über den Wolken muss die Freiheit wohl grenzenlos sein..." "Over the clouds, i guess freedom is borderless. All fears and sorrows stay hidden beyond, they say. [...]" This song was banned in the former Federal Republic of Germany :) caliga

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] FOP (SVG2PDF)
by Alexandre Prokoudine 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

On 9/29/05, Daniel Stiefelmaier <webmaster@...985...> wrote: > weehihi :) > > First i *really* had to think what's about nitzsche and "Über" :) > Maybe you should realize that Germans use "über" in more than 99,99% in > absolutely different and normal contexts. > > Maybe the translation of a common folksong will be more pleasant: > "Über den Wolken muss die Freiheit wohl grenzenlos sein..." > "Over the clouds, i guess freedom is borderless. All fears and sorrows > stay hidden beyond, they say. [...]" > > This song was banned in the former Federal Republic of Germany :) Well, thank you, but I've been studying German since 1988, so your comment doesn't make any sense to me, sorry :) My point is that reusing "Über-" Composite brings too much confusion and you have all chances in the world to end up explaining each and everyone that you didn't mean anything offensive. And there are better things to waste time on ;-) Alexandre

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Re: New Inkscape Goals?
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

As there was some talk about exporting to different formats, i'd like to thow in another one... OASIS came in my mind. the open document format. Karbon14 uses it yet and i'd guess OpenOffice's drawing app also will. This may not be an important goal, as the format is not popular yet, but still i think inkscape should support it sooner or later. But maybe we don't need to bother about that and get that ability from the Uber-Converter. ;) caliga

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Status bar help texts visibility
by Daniel Stiefelmaier 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

>>I would say, if a help line doesn't fit, it shopuld elipsize in >>tghe end and an unfolding/folding button should appear. Yes, it >>would be neat to have it as RFE. >> >> > >Hmm, I favor the elipsis + tooltip approach. It's what most other >stuff does these days in similar situations. > > In CorelDraw you can simply "drag" the edge of the status bar higher, so that it has 2 or more lines. Winamp slides long texts to the left and right, similar to some car radios :) caliga

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WEBFORM
by Caliga 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Please note, that the submitter may not read this list name: Caliga email: inkscape@...985... submitted the following: I changed the webform, so that it is now only sent to the list. Therefore, all website editors should read the list... Please remember to add a CC to the original submitter if you answer to the webform. Caliga

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update of roadmap
by Adib Taraben 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Hello, does someone will update the roadmap page ? It still lists the 0.42 as next goal. http://wiki.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Roadmap Adib. ---

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Re: [Inkscape-tester] Inkscape UI analysis
by Alexandre Prokoudine 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

On 9/29/05, cedric GEMY <radar.map35@...8...> wrote: > If people have ideas, remark or anything to say about this please, go ahead. 100% large screenshots please ;-) Alexandre

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SPDesktop
by MenTaLguY 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

I just committed a conversion of the whole UI::View::View hierarchy over to the collector -- you can't do leaf classes individually and have it work right. Has to be everything in the hierarchy. Not 100% sure I got the code straight because it was a very quick job, but I think so. I'll keep testing. Important thing for everyone to realize: just like refcounted GObjects and so forth, GC::Anchored objects start with a "refcount" of one. No need to refcount them a second time after you create them. I've made this even more explicit in the CG::Anchored documentation which I would encourage everyone to read... -mental

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SPDesktop
by MenTaLguY 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

I just had a look at the SPDesktop code and noticed that you're not inheriting from GC::Anchored anymore. That's not safe. Without the anchor, how is the garbage collector supposed to know that the SPDesktop shouldn't be collected while the desktop widget still references it? Remember that the desktop widget isn't and can't be managed by the collector itself... If you do switch to manual allocation with the collector like that in the future, please also switch to GC::Managed<GC::SCANNED, GC::MANUAL> instead of GC::Managed<>, so the object won't get automatically collected. (GC::Managed defaults to SCANNED and AUTO) -mental

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UI::View::Edit
by MenTaLguY 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

Okay, whoever decided to derive a view class from Gtk::Window ... that was NOT a good idea. I'm open to suggestions how to split Gtk::Window away from it quickly, because among other things that is preventing us from migrating the UI::View::View hierarchy to the collector. The build is broken until this gets fixed... -mental

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build error on OS X
by Jon A. Cruz 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

It's a bit late, but just before heading off to bed I started getting this error: if g++-3.3 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/ X11R6/include/freetype2 -DORBIT2=1 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/ glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/orbit-2.0 -I/sw/in\ clude/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/sw/include/gconf/2 -I/sw/include/ libbonobo-2.0 -I/sw/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/sw/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/ include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/freet\ ype2 -DPOTRACE=\"potrace\" -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/ glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/ X11R6/include/freetype2 -I/sw/include/gtk-2.0 -I/sw/inclu\ de/atk-1.0 -I/sw/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/sw/include/gtkspell-2.0 -I/sw/ include/sigc++-2.0 -I/sw/lib/sigc++-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -I/sw/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/sw/lib\ /glibmm-2.4/include -I/sw/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/sw/include/atkmm-1.6 -I/sw/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/sw/lib/gdkmm-2.4/include -I/sw/include/ gtkmm-2.4 -I/sw/lib/gtkmm-2.4/include -I../cxxtest\ -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare - Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter - D__LONG_DOUBLE_128__ -g -O0 -I/sw/include -MT dialogs/docker.o -MD - MP -MF "d\ ialogs/.deps/docker.Tpo" -c -o dialogs/docker.o `test -f 'dialogs/ docker.cpp' || echo './'`dialogs/docker.cpp; \ then mv -f "dialogs/.deps/docker.Tpo" "dialogs/.deps/docker.Po"; else rm -f "dialogs/.deps/docker.Tpo"; exit 1; fi gc-managed.h: In constructor `Inkscape::NSApplication::Editor::Editor (int, char**, bool)': gc-managed.h:55: error: `static void* Inkscape::GC::Managed<default_scan, default_collect>::operator new(long unsigned int, Inkscape::GC::ScanPolicy = default_scan, Inkscape::GC::CollectionPolicy = default_collect) [with Inkscape::GC::ScanPolicy default_scan = SCANNED, Inkscape::GC::CollectionPolicy default_collect = AUTO]' is inaccessible application/editor.cpp:47: error: within this context gc-managed.h: In destructor `virtual Inkscape::NSApplication::Editor::~Editor() ': gc-managed.h:67: error: `static void Inkscape::GC::Managed<default_scan, default_collect>::operator delete(void*) [with Inkscape::GC::ScanPolicy default_scan = SCANNED, Inkscape::GC::CollectionPolicy default_collect = AUTO]' is inaccessible application/editor.cpp:78: error: within this context make[2]: *** [application/editor.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 I'm not sure if it's coming up on other platforms the same, so I just tossed this out in case it's handy. I'll probably not get a chance to attack it myself till later tomorrow night.

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duplicate menu label
by Arpad Biro 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

Hi, In the View menu there are two "Show/Hide D_ialogs" entries - one of them is a submenu, the other is a normal menu entry. The submenu label should be something else. Arpad Biro __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: New Inkscape Goals?
by Alan Horkan 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

> vector transforaitons need to be added to prove inkscape is the best > illustraion package in the world ( it already is but these features are > a must ) Please don't say things like that or I'll insist you prove it... ... and smack you with a great big fish because talk like that is feeding the trolls and asking for trouble. Bad, bad, bad. We look ignorant if we do not know the flaws in Inkscape and if you make grandiose claims like that you can be damned sure there will be no shortage of people willing to point them out. Pride comes before a fall. Don't make the users angry, you wont like them when they are angry. Don't underestimate the importance of a vibrant community and good word of mouth. I have seen other projects go sour and developers discouraged from working on the software because of constant criticism brought on by unrealistic claims. Careless talk has consequences, better to undersell inkscape and let the program speak for itself. - Alan

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