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A possible plan for adding new 0.47 content to the inkscape manual
by John & Melonie Curwood 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Hi, After my last talk with Joshua about updating the manual for the .47 release, I came across the pending release notes for .47. Using these I made a list of updates or modifications that should be made to existing or new chapters so the manual will line up with version .47. So I would like a review and some recommendations made and then may be we could get the list made into a to-do list on the FM inkscape page. The list that I made was created from the material in the release notes for .47 not from comparing .46 to .47 and I have noticed that some of the features mentioned in the release notes are not present in my devel version. whether these are still to be added or dropped I don't know. I have pasted the list below. Cheers, John Some Ideas For a to-do list Sections Introduction Working With Files Add: Auto-save Modify: Clipboard is system wide, PS/PDF EPS Import/export Interface Update info on toolbars. (new toolbar, toolbars are resizeable...etc) Hovering over swatch shows name of swatch. Toolbox NodeTool Add improvements – Especially Auto Node Node tool able to edit clipping Paths/Masks without releasing(maybe add to multiple object ops section) Tweak Tool Add New Modes to Tweak tool Chapter Add Mode Modifications to Tweak tool Chapter Calligraphy Tool Add: Modifications Eraser Tool Complete Chapter and Add to Section – Done Review Chapter Pen Tool Add: 3 new modes, note on vector brushes Pencil Tool Add: note on vector brushes, Pencil sketch mode. Modify: Smoothing parameters. Text Tool modify: PageUp/PageDown Dropper Tool modify: ToolControlBar for Dropper tool. Toolbar operations need to be updated for several tools. Paths Boolean Path Operations This chapter needs to be translated to English and finished Add: Combine now works on groups. Text Add to Section: Spell Checker, Converting text to paths (in Text and Paths Chapter?), SVG Fonts? (don't know if this would have high enough use to add) Multiple Object Operations Clip and Mask Add: can edit nodes without releasing paths Copy, Clone, and Duplicate Add: command for re-linking clones, auto re-linking with duplicate, clone/original visualisation. Positioning Objects Grids Guides and Snapping Needs to be translated and added to Positioning Objects section Add: Snapping (including toolbar) modify: grid information, Guides (rotating) Align & Distribute Modify: ability to treat objects as a group without having to 'Group' them Add: something about the space out option used in the transform diagram. Organising Objects Layers Chapter needs updating. Styling Objects Stroke Style Add: Gesture based stroke width adjustment Fill and Stroke Add: Patter Editing mods (don't know if this would have high enough use to add) Live Path Effects With all the improvements made to this aspect of Inkscape it might be a good idea to review the whole section Introduction Add: Paste Path Effect/Remove Path Effect, Effects can be added to the sides of a 3D box, Pen/Pencil tools work correctly with paths that have had and LPE added, Path type parameters can link to existing shapes and Text, LPE can be assigned to Groups, LPE stacking Pattern along path Add improvements including Text as input. Add Chapters For some of the new effects. e.g. Sketch, Hatches, von Koch, Knot, Perspective Paths, Spiro Splines, Envelope and lattice deformations...etc SVG Filters Maybe talk about new and improved extension in this section. e.g. Arrange>Restack, Modify Path>Add nodes, Printing>Add Printing Marks, Render>3D Polyhedron, Render>Alphabet soup...etc (Because there are so many, I would recommend adding them all under one chapter rather than as individual chapters.) Introduction Note Changes around filters (e.g. filter editor was filter effects) Location and development of “Filters” top level menu. The “no filter” display mode Advanced Input Devices/Device Configuration?? Updates to the inkscape preferences dialogue?? Colour Management add: doc props dialogue General notes and Topics I'm not sure where to add. Review all chapters for references to the effects/Extensions menu Linked bitmaps update – where to add – should there be a working with bitmaps section, which could include the tracing bitmaps chapter. Object Properties now include Title/Description/Interactivity attributes. - where to add? Note around exporting of blured objects – which should now include all of the blur and not accidentally cut it off. (under working with files or filters??)

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Back in Business
by John & Melonie Curwood 13 May '09

13 May '09

Hi Joshua, Sorry I haven't been in contact for the last couple of weeks, we've had a lot of trouble getting the phone connected (and hence the internet) in our new house so I have been out of touch. I am now back up and running. Have you had any more thoughts on developing a plan or to-do list for the manual. A couple of things I was thinking of were: 1) Divide the the work into a - what just needs to be proofed b - what chapters need finishing c - what new chapters/sections need to be created as a result of new developments in 0.47 2) Review all Inkscape window images to ensure the are from 0.47 3) Once Chapters are complete reviewing them for consistency of a - language b - text style c - image style consistency I'm not really sure what else needs to be done. I would LIKE to have chapters that go into how to create this or design than, how to put together a group of tools and features when making a creation, a bit like tutorials I guess. However I think the basics need to be completed first before doing the next step and I don't have time right now to start creating such chapters. Let me know what you think as I've not had a deep involvement before I'm not sure of the best approach. Cheers, John

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Call for volunteers (non-programming stuff!)
by Joshua Facemyer 24 Apr '09

24 Apr '09

Yes, we could use help with this. If you're interested in helping, the best place to start is the inkscape-docs list, as that's where we coordinate our efforts. JF � wrote: > Let me remind everyone there is an Inkscape Documentation project open > on http://en.flossmanuals.net/Inkscape > > It would be cool if it could be updated asap. I'm preparing LGM09 so i > will be too short in the followings days but if anyone wants to join, > please do. > > pygmee > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensign option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] 0.47 release
by Joshua Facemyer 23 Apr '09

23 Apr '09

Oops, sorry about that! >>> May 6-9 is LGM on Montreal. Are you saying you are not coming? Doh! :) >> 'd love to go. �Are you going? >> > > Waiting for my visa from embassy > >> So, are you interested in a mini sprint? >> > > Possibly maybe :) Its just I'm usually busy at LGM, talking to people and all. > Well, it wouldn't be *during* the LGM, but it could be *after* it. Hey, if you're going to be in the States, we're actually not too far from Montreal. Well, relatively speaking...it's about a 12 hour drive. We'd love to have you here at our house, if you're interested and able. I realize it's a long shot, but doesn't hurt to invite. Maybe you could stay with us for a day or two, we can do the sprint, and then you could fly out of Port Columbus. (We're about an hour north of Columbus, OH). >>>> Alexandre, are you able / willing to work with us on the English to get >>>> it into shape? >>>> >>> Yup :) >>> >> Sweet. >> >> Any other takers? >> > > Dunno. You sent this mail offlist :) > Soo...any other takers? JF

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] 0.47 release
by Joshua Facemyer 22 Apr '09

22 Apr '09

John, I understand about moving. I've just moved twice in six months!! This one's a bit more permanent, since we own it :) Running the dev version is really not too difficult (though a bit more so under Windows, but I thought you were on Ubuntu?) I could help you set it up - it's pretty simple. And it's fun to watch the progression. (I'm absolutely not a programmer either :) But if you want to help document 0.47 without it, you certainly can, just like you've been doing. I'd be okay with doing the following weekend (after the bug sprint), though I'll be a bit busier at that time. JF John & Melonie Curwood wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > How are you? No I'm not running dev, my skill set leans far more > towards documentation than development. I think doing some sort of > mini-sprint with the docs is a great idea. We just have to work out > when. I'm moving town at the end of the week and for the next while > won't know exactly when I will be able to fully participate in a > sprint, certainly not before the scheduled bug sprint on 9-10 May > (hopefully phone and everkything will be connected by then). Maybe a > week after the bug sprint would be a good date. > > Cheers, > > John > > > > Joshua Facemyer wrote: >> Sooo.... >> >> the next release is scheduled for June 15th. >> >> Who's listening in from the English team who has time to work on this? >> >> I think a Bug Sprint is planned for May 9-10...do we also want to do >> a mini online booksprint to get everything up to date for the new >> release? Possibly even at the same time? >> >> John, are you running dev now? >> >> Alexandre, are you able / willing to work with us on the English to >> get it into shape? >> >> What do you all think? >> >> JF >> >> >

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Inkscape Interface
by John & Melonie Curwood 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

I've just updated the Interface overview image in the Interface Chapter in the FM Inkscape Manual to reflect the interface for version 0.47. I've used a similar style to that used in the latest incarnation of the FM firefox manual as I thought that style looked really good and descriptive. Any comments/feedback? Cheers, John

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Re : Inkscape Interface
by John & Melonie Curwood 19 Apr '09

19 Apr '09

Thanks everyone for the feedback. For those of you that don't know the manual location, the interface chapter can be found at: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Inkscape/Interface Thanks Nicolas for spotting that, I'll fix it up ASAP, and I know what you mean about the code. Cheers, John

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Working with Files Chapter
by John & Melonie Curwood 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Hi, I think I've finally sorted out the working with files chapter, as discussed with Joshua I only included the most commonly used file types and moved all the rest to the Glossary. Feel free to check it out and tweak it where necessary. I also wanted to discuss the use of diagrams in the manual, I had mentioned this some time ago but haven't put much attention to it till recently when I was looking at the recently upgraded FM Firefox manual. I really Like the style and layout they use in the Interface Highlights/Overview chapter to give an overview of the firefox window and think that that would be a good style to use for the Inkscape manual. I appreciate any Ideas or Suggestion before I go and change all the graphics in the manual. Cheers, John

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape 0.47 - was Re: GSoC 2009 - Project handling in the repository
by John & Melonie Curwood 27 Mar '09

27 Mar '09

Woops, Sorry Joshua, I was suppposed to send this to the list, not just to you. John John & Melonie Curwood wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > I've only picked up on the tail end of this conversation and just > wanted to clarify a couple of things. For those of us currently > writing on the FM Inkscape Manual, what are the practical implications > of this. Can we continue on fleshing out and refining the current > manual or do we need a development of .47 so we can make sure any new > material is compatible with the new release? > > Cheers, > > John > Joshua Facemyer wrote: >> Since there's no way to automate the process, any translators that >> are following a certain language will have to update manually by >> watching the changes. I wish it could be otherwise. >> >> If nobody has any objections, I'm pushing the "branch" button ;) >> >> From now on, let's write for .47 >> >> Some things to be careful of: let's be sure a new feature is really >> going to be in the next release before spending much time on it, and >> let's make sure that the details of a new feature are finalized >> before we finalize our documentation of such features :) >> >> JF >> >> Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, C�dric G�my wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree this is THE choice. 0.47 is pretty coming soon, and there are >>>>> some huge work to do on new stuffs improving old tools (pen...). >>>>> These >>>>> are very visible options and i think this should be completely >>>>> documented first. >>>>> >>>>> We could aim at having an uptodate FM manual as soon as possible, >>>>> even >>>>> if not daeling with the whole software( but was it already the >>>>> case with >>>>> 0.46 ?) >>>>> >>>> If there are no objections, somebody has to press the branching >>>> button :) >>>> >>> Just one question: what will happen to translations after branching? >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are >>> powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly >>> and >>> easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based >>> development >>> software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. >>> Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inkscape-docs mailing list >>> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >> > >

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape 0.47 - was Re: GSoC 2009 - Project handling in the repository
by Elisa-yemanja 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

Le Thursday 19 March 2009 22:54:54 Alexandre Prokoudine, vous avez écrit : > > *Filters - Things are still coming in at an amazing pace, and the > > question is when do we stop Ivan? ;) > > We need a GSoC project to invent tools to stop him :) > > What I'm concerned about is how we document all these filters. But > this is for inkscape-docs@, perhaps. Yeah it's true. Ivan send me most of his message with Bulia, so i have the story about the mentoring by Bulia and the discover by Ivan. (many, many thanks to Ivan) Also, Ivan is From Belgium, so he speak very well french. That's help us (me?) a lot. It's hard for him to stop discover and write documentation. I think it's our job to help him. First i think we have to open a chapter on FM manual And after open a dialog with Ivan, for the writers do their job on the manual writing what Ivan explain us :-) I'm intersted in doing that. Just now now now it's hard for me, when my red-project was finish. Elisa > > There are some both rendering and non-rendering issues with SVG > Filters. I'll see if they are already logged in the tracker. > > > *LPE Tool/Technical Tool - What is the plan? Should it be completely > > disabled for 0.47 since Max has stated that he will be unable to work on > > it? > > ifdef? > > Alexandre > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are > powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and > easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development > software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. > Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel -- Elisa

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