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"moderation" question
by brynn 15 Jun '19

15 Jun '19

Hi Friends, Reference this newly uploaded image, and specifically the "inkscapeofficial" tag. https://media.inkscape.org/media/resources/file/lego_toy_story.png Is the project ok with someone claiming that their work is an "official inkscape" drawing? I put "moderation" in quotes, because moderators can't curate the tags anyway. But I still thought I should ask whether the project finds this acceptable or not. Even considering that their intention might be to credit Inkscape, that could be done with "inkscape" as a tag, without the "official" which has a whole other connotation. And a related question. Are there any words that are disallowed for use as tags? All best, brynn

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gallery moderation issue
by brynn 29 May '19

29 May '19

Hi Friends, When we first started moderating the gallery, I found an issue with images which "could have been" made with Inkscape, but I was suspicious they weren't. Then Martin suggested using reverse image search to try to identify these images. If we find the image on other websites, it gives us clues about whether it was made with Inkscape. And that has been working great, until recently. Now, it seems like the people who like to post random, meaningless images around the internet, have caught on, and have figured out that if they put up an image which is not found in a reverse image search, we leave it there. It's often impossible for us to prove they didn't make it with Inkscape. I've left several images in the gallery lately, which I suspect weren't made with Inkscape. But there's just no way to prove it. For example, there are 2 or 3 other images like this cow one. But they aren't found in a reverse image search. https://inkscape.org/~missym/%E2%98%85bee+1 Is there some way to "beat" a reverse image search? (The search doesn't find that specific image, although Etsy seems to have a lot of generalized 'cow with bandana' images.) Unless we want to just live with the fact of having images not made with Inkscape in the gallery, we (meaning mostly me, at least for now) might have to make some more subjective determinations about images. And that means getting it wrong sometimes, and sometimes hearing from members about removed images. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions? Can someone remind me how to do a reverse image search on google? I've been using TinEye exclusively, but maybe using 2 different search engines would help? I know how to search images using a keyword, but not how to search using an actual image (URL). Thanks for any comments, suggestions :-) brynn

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[ANNOUNCE] This mailing list is moving soon!
by Bryce Harrington 29 May '19

29 May '19

The Inkscape project is upgrading its mailing lists, and will be moving off SourceForge on June 8th, 2019. Between now and then, please subscribe to the new lists at to ensure you don't miss any Inkscape discussions. Subscribe to the new list here: https://lists.inkscape.org Bryce

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inbox coming back to website?
by brynn 24 May '19

24 May '19

Hi Friends, Is the Inbox ever coming back to the website, for personal messages? I know it was back for a while, but then it was gone again. I'm just wondering if I should start to save the messages which I need to send out from time to time, as a moderator. Without the inbox, I wouldn't be able to access them, if it became necessary. Thanks, brynn

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can't curate the description in gallery
by brynn 24 Apr '19

24 Apr '19

Hi Friends, When the Curate feature for the gallery first came out, I could edit the description (along with almost everything about an image). Now it seems I can't. But that's where the spam is! That's where the spam always will be. The images seem entirely appropriate, and I would not remove them. But if I can't delete the spam from the description, the only other option is to remove the images (3 of them today). Thoughts? Bug report? Example: https://inkscape.org/~yendrifernando/%E2%98%85broken-link And there are 2 more (same member). Thanks, brynn

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request to join comunity
by Saiba Akhtar 16 Apr '19

16 Apr '19

hi, hope you are well. my name is saiba Akhtar, I am a final year computer science student. seeking to take part and explore my skills in open source software for a module. I just wanted to know if there is any work I can do for this community. do let me know please. thankyou. yours sincerely, saiba akhtar

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Error in the instructions on https://inkscape.org/develop/getting-started/
by Diederik van Lierop 06 Apr '19

06 Apr '19

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New Gallery System Proposal
by ar j 05 Apr '19

05 Apr '19

The current system makes spam a real bore for admins. I propose a new gallery system. A static site for displaying images (no need for user-accounts) The moderation system is used to verify pictures. They are then approved. Then we have a manual (or automated) build system that adds the pics. We can then ask people to provide more info when submitting pics. In the case of blanks we wonder if spam or other format or what. The moderation system becomes then a verifying system, giving mods some work to do. Currently, i tried few times checking in the past but lightning fast brynn always has already marked wrong ones. My duty is then to vote. Not enough work to do i think is the reason mods sleep. The rate of submission is also not so high. (btw check out JamStack) Yours, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Mauritius

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is voting working for gallery moderation?
by brynn 03 Apr '19

03 Apr '19

Hi Friends, I feel like I should make a report about the current system for gallery moderation, which uses voting. As brilliant as it is (in my opinion) it doesn't seem like it will be sustainable for the long run. So far, I can't really say that it's been successful, for more than a week at a time. So far, we have not been able to attract a moderator who can either (a) comprehend the system, or (b) stick around for more than a day or 2. Or perhaps it could be explained by not finding someone motivated enough, I'm not sure. We have had several volunteers to moderate, but they seem to have done so in order to acquire enough access to see what it's about. Once they see, they take one or 2 voting actions, and never show up again. (I haven't deleted them off the member list, in case they might start working again, but I might as well, since they could always re-apply, if they change their mind.) We did have one moderator who stuck around for quite a while, but whom needed a good deal of support (more than really is appropriate). Fortunately for the gallery, when a moderator flags an item, it becomes hidden. So the gallery doesn't suffer. It's really only the database that suffers, since the images (or other items) are never really deleted. They're just piling up on the Moderation Page. (Well, occasionally Moini reports spam, which I can vote on, which causes it to be deleted. But if I'm the one who reports it (and I do most of it), no one else ever casts the final votes.) I'm not sure what the best solution would be. One option would be to go to the traditional type of system, where one moderator can delete an item. And certainly, fewer moderators would be needed for that. Currently, one person could handle all the moderation, with that type of system (and actually does, for the most part). For the voting system, we need a 2nd moderator to make the final final vote. Also, this type of system works best when 2 or more moderators are communicating, in addition to voting. For a little while, I could post a message to the Docs list calling moderators in to clean up the page, and that would work. But lately, it's not. Otherwise, I'm not sure what other solutions would be possible. Since developers are currently very busy working on hackfests and 1.0, I don't think it will hurt to just let things pile up on the Moderation page, for now. But just so I'm not the only one who knows it, the Moderation Page is already long enough to make it a good half hour to an hour's work for an experienced moderator to come in and clean up the page. A new moderator would need more time, and maybe much more. (Well, at least it would take that long if they want to read the messages and participate. Of course it would just take 15 minutes to go in and vote to delete everything, regardless....in which case, why not go to a traditional system after all.) Just a report, for what it's worth :-) All best, brynn

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Fwd: 3/27, IRC help for applying to Season of the Docs
by Bryce Harrington 24 Mar '19

24 Mar '19

Maren & other docs folks, This sounds like it is a GSoC equivalent but for documentation. Would one of you mind joining in the discussions at the time and place mentioned below and scope out if it'd be of value for Inkscape to do? Bryce ----- Forwarded message from Deb Nicholson <deb@...186...> ----- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:27:46 -0400 From: Deb Nicholson <deb@...186...> To: project-reps@...186... Subject: 3/27, IRC help for applying to Season of the Docs Hi all, Google has a new program (https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/ ) that is pairing technical writers with open source projects. Andrew Chen, one of the orgnizers for Season of the Docs, has generously agreed to offer their help, advice and expertise to Conservancy projectss who are interested in applying as a mentoring organization. Swing by Conservancy's IRC channel, #conservancy on freenode.net at 2pm Eastern time (aka New York Time, currently GMT -4) on Wednesday, March 27th. If you have not used IRC before, don't worry! You can access it via any web browser. Click here, https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23conservancy Then you'll just choose a nickname and you're ready to go! See you next Wednesday! Deb -- Deb Nicholson <deb@...186...> Software Freedom Conservancy ----- End forwarded message -----

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