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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Another note on localization
by bulia byak 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

>It seems the following 2 strings (used when opening or saving a >document) are not extracted automatically from the sources: > >"Append filename extension automatically" >"File type:" No idea why _() for them does not work. Maybe the files are not listed in some list or makefile? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Localization of color selector strings
by bulia byak 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

True, but sp-color-wheel-selector has static const gchar* nameset[] = {N_("Wheel"), 0}; My understanding is that N_() prevents the string from being translated on the spot but sill pulls it out into .po. Can anyone knowledgeable comment? >It seems the official PO files do not contain the string "Wheel". >This means that if you want the color selector tab title "Wheel" >(in the "Fill & Stroke" dialog) to appear in your local language, you >(as a translator) will have to append the following string pair to >your PO file by hand: > >msgid "Wheel" >msgstr "translation_of_Wheel_in_your_language" > > >(this hack is currently needed because > src/widgets/sp-color-notebook.cpp internationalizes a _variable_: > > tab_label = gtk_label_new(_(str)); >) _________________________________________________________________ Free up your inbox with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Multiple plans available. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave…

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Another note on localization
by Arpad Biro 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Hi, Another note to translators/Bulia: It seems the following 2 strings (used when opening or saving a document) are not extracted automatically from the sources: "Append filename extension automatically" "File type:" This means that for the time being, we have to append the appropriate msgid/msgstr pairs to the PO file (this will make them localized). Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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Localization of color selector strings
by Arpad Biro 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Hi, A note to translators/Bulia: It seems the official PO files do not contain the string "Wheel". This means that if you want the color selector tab title "Wheel" (in the "Fill & Stroke" dialog) to appear in your local language, you (as a translator) will have to append the following string pair to your PO file by hand: msgid "Wheel" msgstr "translation_of_Wheel_in_your_language" (this hack is currently needed because src/widgets/sp-color-notebook.cpp internationalizes a _variable_: tab_label = gtk_label_new(_(str)); ) Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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French translation
by unknown＠example.com 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Hi, a corrected french translation, and more ... Thank to pjrm. Fred.

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French translation
by unknown＠example.com 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Hi, a corrected french translation, and more .. Thank to pjrm. Fred.

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cvs borked
by Jonathan Phillips 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Yes, our CVS copy is broken! [kidproto@...174...:/usr/src/inkscape-project/inkscape]$ inkscape ** ERROR **: file bezier-utils.cpp: line 459 (gdouble NewtonRaphsonRootFind(const NR::Point*, const NR::Point&, double)): assertion failed: (proportion <= 1.0) aborting... Aborted jon -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] exporting page background needed!!
by bulia byak 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

>I'm kinda angry, cause I messed up 150 A3 color laser prints, 'cause >inkscape does not give you the option of not using transparency while >exporting. It does. The page background you set in the Document Options dialog is used for bitmap export. >You see, I actually had encountered about the problem before I did too, which is why I coded the page background setting. >Gonna file a bug on this. Hope it'll be in 0.38. In any case, this is not a bug, but rather an RFE. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] bug: Inkscape opens files in a new instance, the first inst
by bulia byak 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

>When you launch Inkscape, and, right away, use the "file->open" dialogue to >open an existing SVG file, Inkscape opens another instance of itself and >shows this file in there. This makes the first instance useless, you can't >use it to open a file in it (you can use it to start drawing a new one). I agree. I was going to fix this for a long time, but just never got a round tuit. Please file a RFE (not bug) on this. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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bug: Inkscape opens files in a new instance, the first instance leaves itself useless
by Artemio 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Hello everybody! Sorry, sourceforge gives me "forum not found" when I try to go to "inkscape-tracker" list. I know this happens sometimes, but here's a little bug anyway. When you launch Inkscape, and, right away, use the "file->open" dialogue to open an existing SVG file, Inkscape opens another instance of itself and shows this file in there. This makes the first instance useless, you can't use it to open a file in it (you can use it to start drawing a new one). So, instead of opening a new window, Inkscape should open the given SVG in it's very first instance. Apologees if this has already been fixed. Artemio, the happy Inkspace user. -- A-Man ::: new music from Artemio ::: http://a-man.artemio.net [local time 19:11:18 (GMT +3) 2 April 2004] [system uptime 29 min]

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L10n question
by Arpad Biro 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Hi, "Extension to save document (%s) was not found." (file.cpp) What kind of extension does this mean? As in "Quark extension", or "file extension"? Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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Two features I would like
by Carl Hetherington 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Hi, There's a couple of things that would take inkscape from the "interesting" to "useful" stage for me ;-) 1. Arrow heads. It looks like some work has been done on these. Anyone know the current state of play? In a previous message, Bryce discussed how they can be implemented with SVG markers; the message seemed to imply that the rendering support is already there. 2. Export to EPS. For my purposes, this would just have to get paths, text (though not necessarily font information) and fills right. Would there be any objections to a patch for this? Thanks Carl

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exporting page background needed!!
by David Christian Berg 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

I'm kinda angry, cause I messed up 150 A3 color laser prints, 'cause inkscape does not give you the option of not using transparency while exporting. Point is, I made a plakat for a party at my university and when converting a png with transparency to cmyk, the transparency is lost and it's the color as solid. Since I only made the png and was not there when printing I didn't notice that I forgot to put a white rectangle in the background. You see, I actually had encountered about the problem before, but had just forgotten to draw that rect, cause you don't notice the difference in inkscape and don't always think about that kinda crap. It cannot be that hard to make a check box in the export dialog, that allows you to reduce the image without transparency. Gonna file a bug on this. Hope it'll be in 0.38. David

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Release - Need translations
by bulia byak 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

>We need 1 more bug to get to our 10%, and there are two candidates for >being fixed (the more the better though). I think that we'll probably >release at the end of the weekend, or very early next week. If you're >someone who is translating Inkscape, if you could get the translations >in by the end of the weekend I think we can get them into 0.38. I don't >think any strings will be changed between now and then. Also, I've >updated all the .po files in CVS - so they should have all the strings >in them now. Besides, yesterday I finished adding _() to many strings which were not gettextized before, so these are all now in .po and need to be translated. We also have lots of new strings added since 0.37. And if anyone is working on translating tutorials, it would be nice to have some before the release too. To hook up your translated tutorial, you just need to "translate" the corresponding filename in your language's po file, for example: #: src/interface.cpp:684 msgid "tutorial-basic.svg" msgstr "tutorial-basic.ru.svg" and submit the file tutorial-basic.ru.svg with your tutorial translation. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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French translation
by Frederic Rodrigo 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Hi, I have updated the French translation. Fred.

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Spanish translation
by Lucas 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Updated spanish translation. I hope to finish the tutorial translation any time soon ;-)

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] L10n question
by bulia byak 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

The current setup with "save as" seems a bit >clunky and I think is confusing to people coming to Inkscape for the first >time. This is such a basic area that it should work easily and intuitively. Please be more detailed. With the recent changes in this area, and with the differences between linux/windows, it's difficult to understand what you are referring to. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] win32 save as problem
by bulia byak 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

>Are we on the same wavelength? Inkscape has been auto adding extension svg >for ages. For example in build 29 March. It certainly did not do that on Linux until today. So this should have been a Windows-only artefact :) Anyway, the newly added functionality (controlled by checkbox) is the preferred way to do it because it can be disabled, and that preference is saved. If a Windows build does not have the checkbox or does not obey it, please file a bug and/or contact Ted Gould who authored this. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] L10n question
by bulia byak 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

> > Another thing...why do we have extensions in the save and open dialog > > that don't work. Which one does not work? I see three formats there: compressed SVG, SVG with and without extensions. All three work fine. >Agreed. And why do we default to SVG plus extension namespace on "save as", >rather than straight SVG? Because "straight SVG" is for special occasions only. It loses a lot of Inkscape functionality. In fact, it's more of an export than save. Normally, you want to store your Inkscape documents as SVG with extensions, so this is justifiably the default. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] L10n question
by bulia byak 01 Apr '04

01 Apr '04

>"Extension to save document (%s) was not found." (file.cpp) > >What kind of extension does this mean? As in "Quark extension", >or "file extension"? It's the same as module. Since this message also speaks about filename extensions, it's rather confusing. I changed it to: "No Inkscape extension found to save document (%s). This may have been caused by an unknown filename extension." _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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[Fwd: Re: SVG on the Desktop]
by Jonathan Phillips 01 Apr '04

01 Apr '04

-----Forwarded Message----- > From: Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...254...> > To: Christian Schaller <uraeus@...55...> > Cc: www-svg@...157... > Subject: Re: SVG on the Desktop > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:18:42 +0100 > > > Hi Christian > > On Tue 2004-03-23 Christian Schaller wrote: > > I thought I just point people here to my article on the use of SVG > > in the desktop. It summarizes the work we have done are and are > > doing with utilizing SVG in the Linux/Unix desktop: > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6460 > > Great article, thanks! I mainly use KDE, but perhaps Novell/Suse 10 > will ship with a good GNOME (SVG) desktop :) > > Besides the whole icon business; Are there plans to base the whole > (GNOME) desktop GUI on SVG? When I change the resolution of my screen, > then the size of every icon, text, window frame/decoration, menu, > taskbar, button, etc should stay the same; and I want to be able to > change the size of all this without having to change my screen's > resolution. Non-GNOME apps also would need to use SVG then, so perhaps > SVG needs to be incorporated at the X level? Does xsvg or Cairo help > with that? > > Regarding editor forks: > > "As the first draft of the SVG spec was released, work on another SVG > editor was undertaken - the now well-known Sodipodi drawing > application by Lauris Kaplinski. Sodipodi was partially based on Gill. > Over the next several months, Sodipodi progressed while Gill came to > an end as Raph's attention turned elsewhere." > > This shows that forks and projects which build on the code of others > can be very useful, and can prevent an effort or a code base from > dying. > > "All is not well in the house of roses though and later that month the > Sodipodi development team splits into two groups, and the Inkscape > project is born." > > What's "not well" about this event? The reasons might be incompatible > view and ideas, but the outcome is good as far as I can see. > > "This gives us two SVG editors/Vector drawing applications." > > This is great, no? Users have one more choice, developers who want to > help with creating and evolving an SVG editor but don't fit into the > Sodipodi team/community might find a home in the Inkscape > team/community. > > "Long running disagreements on topics ranging from GUI design, use of > external libraries, project goal and direction, programming language > used, and more resulted in the developers feeling that they would be > happier and more productive if they worked on two separate projects." > > ... thus it's great that they were constructive and active and started > their own project. > > If Sodipodi would die, some of it's efforts and code might live on in > Inkscape (just as some Gill code lives on through Sodipodi if I > understood you correctly). > > Neither Sodipodi nor Inkscape is mature enough yet (both still crash > and disappear from time to time), but I'm confident that they will > continue to evolve and mature and become more complete; competition > might very well help with that :) > > BTW, Sodipodi already is very useful (just remember to save you work > often enough :), and those who use Illustrator to create Linux icons > could check out > http://zeus.qballcow.nl/icons.php > "QNX Gnome Theme 0.3.7 > [...] > I made the whole icons using Sodipodi." > > Pretty cool. > > Something else: > > An SVG-based GUI toolkit might also be an interesting project. People > could for example build scalable interfaces to their Ruby or Python > applications, with SVG. > > Tobi -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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Release - Need translations
by Ted Gould 01 Apr '04

01 Apr '04

Well, we're really close. We need 1 more bug to get to our 10%, and there are two candidates for being fixed (the more the better though). I think that we'll probably release at the end of the weekend, or very early next week. If you're someone who is translating Inkscape, if you could get the translations in by the end of the weekend I think we can get them into 0.38. I don't think any strings will be changed between now and then. Also, I've updated all the .po files in CVS - so they should have all the strings in them now. Thanks, Ted

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Tips and Tricks Wiki Page
by Jonathan Phillips 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

Also, you can enter your tips and tricks here: http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TricksAndTips and they will be collected semi-regulary. Jon -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape strings
by bulia byak 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

> > Tip radius is the distance from the center to the farthest handle. > > Base radius is the same for closest handle. Can you suggest better > > terms? > >They are OK, but then I can't see why it's called "sharpness". >(If someone starts to move the inner handle along a circle, he >will possibly be surprised to see the resulting objects have the >same "sharpness".) Right, strictly speaking sharpness also depends on the angular positions of handles - skewed tips are sharper than straight ones with the same radii. However the label must be one word, maximum two, as long explanations won't fit. Please feel free to propose a better one-word term than "sharpness". >I see it now. What I tried was to raise only 1 item of a group (after >Ctrl+clicking it), and Inkscape did not raise this item above an >ungroupped object -- but this was a bad thing to test with, because >Inkscape does not give this message then. There's no error message because it's not an error - it does in fact moves the selected object within its group. So this may be not what you expected, but it's a successful operation from Inkscape viewpoint, and we don't report on successes (with some exceptions, such as "Document saved."). >The point I was trying to make with all this is that we are talking >about "different groups or layers", but those objects do not both have >to be in a group, and we have only 1 layer in Inkscape right now. So >if you take a root-level, ungroupped object and try to group it with >an already groupped single item, then it's strange to receive this >message telling that they are from a different group (one of them is >ungroupped) or layer (there's no layer). Right, more correct would be "You cannot raise/lower objects from different groups or layers, or grouped objects together with ungrouped ones", but IMHO it's too wordy, and the part after comma adds nothing really useful for the user, it's kinda implied. What do others think? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-user] (no subject)
by Daniel Díaz 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

[Hello all. This is mostly related to the project, so in case anyone understands Spanish, here it goes] Hola, qué tal. On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 19:47, Ricardo Ortiz Coronado wrote: > Mira, mi idea es algun dia poder pasarme al soft GNU algun dia no muy > lejano, Fíjate que ya hay quien se pasa prácticamente todo el día en Linux usando software libre para sus composiciones. Bulia Byak, uno de los desarrolladores, por ejemplo, dice que se pasa ahí las horas y lo usa para sus trabajos. Eso resulta bastante bueno porque donde encuentra que algo le duele al software, luego luego hace una modificación y lo mejora. ¡Ya quisiéramos todos tener su habilidad para programar tan bien! > soy diseñador grafico y como podras ver, realmente no hay mucho de > donde escoger, aunque veo sof con mucho futuro, ¡Bastante! Inkscape ha evolucionado de una forma increíble en el poco tiempo que ha existido. Desde que se separó de Sodipodi, el rol de Inkscape le da nuevos bríos al diseño gráfico con software libre. > podria ayudar en la parte de > traduccion, no por mi sino por medio de un amigo que me traduce. Eso sería bastante bueno. Ya Lucas Vieites Fariña <lucas@...212...> tomó las riendas de la traducción al español, y también dijo que le iba a dar atención al tutorial. Sería bueno que lo contactaras para ver si de esa forma se puede formar un equipo de traducción al español para Inkscape. > tambien > puedo testear el soft en un rip Postcript para ver la salida a preprensa. > (donde trabajo hay una fotocomponedora) pero el inconveniente es la salida > de impresion del InkScape. ¡Suena como que muy bien! Pero... ¿qué es un rip? Ahí disculparás, pero lo del diseño gráfico no es lo mío, y por ello no conozco la jerga. Me imagino que es algo particular de las imprentas, así que si puedes experimentar con eso e Inkscape, ¡pues sería fabuloso reportar los resultados en el grupo! Hasta donde yo sé, Inkscape sí tiene unos problemas para exportar a PostScript, y es que nadie se ha dado a la tarea de actualizar ese filtro de salida. Siempre que sale a colación en la lista dicen: "¿Alguien que quiera tomar ese pendiente?", así que habrá que esperar al menos a que esté en los planes, porque la versión 0.38 es más que nada para eliminar bugs. > Bueno por favor orientame donde puedo enviar mis > comentarios, o que te parece si te los envio. > Gracias por contestarme. Hombre, no hay problema. Me los puedes enviar a mí, pero yo soy sólo un amigo del proyecto. Lo mejor sería dirigir todas tus inquietudes al grupo. Es más, si puedes lanzarte al chat (está en Jabber, pero no recuerdo en dónde), mejor, para que platiques con Bryce y todos ellos. > Te comento que estoy probando el scribus y me ha > parecido fabuloso, bueno no es un Quark pero ahi vamos. Saludos ¡De acuerdo! No es lo mejor, pero sí que es bueno. Scribus también ha tenido bastante progreso, y lo mejor de todo es que hay buenas relaciones entre la gente de Scribus y la de Inkscape, porque quieren asegurar que exista buena comunicación de archivos entre uno y otro producto. Cosas muy buenas van a salir de esa relación, vas a ver. Espero que no te moleste que haya mandado copia de este correo al grupo. Así que aquí andamos para lo que se ofrezca. ¡Saludos! Daniel Díaz yosoy@...31...

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] annoying usability with selection
by bulia byak 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

>arguably* this is the correct behaviour and that if you want to rotate all >the objects as a group then you should group them and ungroup them when >you are done. (* i wouldn't argue this for myself, although the behaviour >is logical I cannot say I have ever wanted to use it that way) If we follow this logic, we'll also need to change scaling, skewing, flipping, and perhaps other operations all of which currently work on a selection as a whole. >the problem is that if you change the behaviour to rotate the whole group >and some one actually does want to rotate each of the selected objects >individually then they would be forced to do them one by one. True, this may be useful sometimes too, but it's not for a global verb. It would be nice to have it as a checkbox in the Transform dialog or next to the top panel's Rotate field. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] annoying usability with selection
by bulia byak 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

>Does anyone else find it annoying that when using another tool, you >can't select all with ctrl-a You can. It's a global verb, although it works differently in node tool. , and shift into selection mode? Also, I >wonder if there could be shortcut keys associated with rotate 90 deg CW >and 90 deg CCW. There are. Look up Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+] in the reference. There is a problem with them, however: these keys are only valid in selector, while the buttons on the toolbar call a different function and are global verbs without shortcuts. Those global rotates are broken (try rotating several selected objects, it rotates each one separately instead of rotating the selection as a whole) and need to be removed anyway. And the reason why the [, ] rotates are not global is that they work differently in node editor (rotate node handles). So what needs to be done is this: - rewrite the global rotate verbs so that they find out the current tool and call different functions in node tool and in all other tools. An example of such tool-sensitive verb is Ctrl+A whence you can borrow the check code. - assign the Ctrl+[] shortcuts to these global verbs and remove these keys from select-context.cpp. This might be a good project for you :) _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: Startup message
by bulia byak 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

This means it can't find some of the icons. This may happen if you updated your .exe but not icons.svg. >I am consistently getting the following startup messages with win32 28 >march >and 29 march. > >vellum ><< Startup040329.gif >> ><< Startup040328.gif >> _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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annoying usability with selection
by Jonathan Phillips 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

Does anyone else find it annoying that when using another tool, you can't select all with ctrl-a, and shift into selection mode? Also, I wonder if there could be shortcut keys associated with rotate 90 deg CW and 90 deg CCW. Jon -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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Re: [Inkscape-user] little buggy ?
by Jonathan Phillips 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

I will forward up stream to whomever creates the Industrial Theme. Arg. I really do not believe this is our bug, as we are using standard GTK widgets for the rulers, right? Jon On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 10:09, Vinh TONTHAT wrote: > Thanks for your reply :) > > I am using Arch Linux with Industrial theme on gtk 2.2.4. I tried with > other themes which work without problem. Industrial is my favorite gtk2, > how to get Inkscape works with ? > > Vinh > > On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:15:58 -0800, Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...> > wrote: > > > Arg...I tested the newest Industrial theme which was giving us this > > problem and it seemed fixed. I do believe this is a problem with some > > themes, as others work. > > > > Could you tell me what theme you are using, your system, etc, so that I > > can look into this further. > > > > Jon > > > > > > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 03:53, vinh@...286... wrote: > >> there is what I get when I scroll with mouse: > >> > >> http://www.opti-mind.net/tmp/buggy.png > >> > >> Do you have any idea ? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Vinh > >> > >> ******ADSL Tiscali, le Haut débit au meilleur prix ****** > >> Avec Tiscali, profitez de l'ADSL au meilleur prix partout en France ! > >> Pour profiter de cette offre exceptionnelle, cliquez ici : > >> http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl > >> Sous réserve d'éligibilité à l'ADSL. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > >> Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > >> GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > >> administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&opÌk > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Inkscape-user mailing list > >> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape strings
by bulia byak 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

> > Right, strictly speaking sharpness also depends on the angular > > positions of handles. Please feel free to propose a better one-word > > term than "sharpness". > >Maybe "compactness"? Same problem as sharpness. A star with skewed rays is less compact even if the radii are the same length. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Open/Save dialogs
by Ted Gould 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

Hey, I changed the open and save dialogs so that they have listings of all the extensions that are available to be saved with. Unfortunately, I don't have a win32 system to put the changes over there. I think that I have ported over the API changes (so it should build) - but not the code. Can someone port the changed code? I guess someone should also make sure that I didn't screw up the build too :) --Ted

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InkScape Icons (fwd)
by Bryce Harrington 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:19:27 +1000 From: Gerwood <gerwood@...289...> To: bryce@...58... Subject: InkScape Icons Bryce A quick explanation. I found out about inkscape less than a week ago and so far have found it a brilliant program to use. I am sending to you an icon I have created for it (for use in gnome). I figured you might like to start a collection or similar. Thank you for this program. Incidently I did also try sodipodi and I realise that they are from the same source originally. I chose inkscape though because I preferred the interface. I thought you would also like to know that I found inkscape to be very, very easy to use. I have already started on my own icon set as a result. Again thank you and the rest of those who are working on this program. Gerwood Stewart (p.s. do what you will with the icon).

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape strings
by bulia byak 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

>"Ratio of tip and base radii of points" (src/toolbox.cpp) > >What's "base radius" and "tip radius"? Tip radius is the distance from the center to the farthest handle. Base radius is the same for closest handle. Can you suggest better terms? >Does "point" mean "corner" here? Yes, although "of points" is just redundant, I removed it. >"You cannot group objects from different groups or layers." >(src/selection-chemistry.cpp) >"You cannot raise/lower objects from different groups or layers." >(src/selection-chemistry.cpp) >"You cannot combine objects from different groups or layers." >(src/path-chemistry.cpp) > >First of all, what do you mean by "layer"? This is for the future. We will (hopefully) soon have layers support. In SVG, layers will be represented by <g> as are groups, hence the messages. >Taking a look at the sources it seems that what we really mean by >these 3 strings is something like "objects with different parents". >Probably these strings could be worded a bit better. Yes, but "parents" are confusing for a user. It's developer terminology. >You can't raise a grouped item (without raising the rest of the group), >but you can raise the whole group, right? No. You can raise/lower a grouped object (or an object in a layer) within it's group/layer, not within document root (try it). >The "raise" string talks >about >"different groups", which does not apply to this case. I think it's correct. When you select objects with different parents, it's ambiguous where to raise/lower it, hence the message. >If you select a grouped item with Ctrl, you can't group it together >with an ungrouped item, but you can group the group itself with that >ungrouped item (right?). No. You cannot even select a group and an item within that group at the same time, there's a check for that. When you have a group selected and try to select an item within it, te group is deselected, and vice versa (try it). _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Inkscape strings
by Arpad Biro 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

Hi, I have a few questions about some of the translatable strings in the Inkscape sources: "Ratio of tip and base radii of points" (src/toolbox.cpp) What's "base radius" and "tip radius"? Does "point" mean "corner" here? ---------------------------------------------------- "You cannot group objects from different groups or layers." (src/selection-chemistry.cpp) "You cannot raise/lower objects from different groups or layers." (src/selection-chemistry.cpp) "You cannot combine objects from different groups or layers." (src/path-chemistry.cpp) First of all, what do you mean by "layer"? Taking a look at the sources it seems that what we really mean by these 3 strings is something like "objects with different parents". Probably these strings could be worded a bit better. You can't raise a grouped item (without raising the rest of the group), but you can raise the whole group, right? The "raise" string talks about "different groups", which does not apply to this case. This string needs rewording the most (of the 3 above). If you select a grouped item with Ctrl, you can't group it together with an ungrouped item, but you can group the group itself with that ungrouped item (right?). IMHO this shows that the other 2 strings could also be worded better. Of course this depends on what you call a "layer". Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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Re: [Inkscape-user] little buggy ?
by Jonathan Phillips 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

Arg...I tested the newest Industrial theme which was giving us this problem and it seemed fixed. I do believe this is a problem with some themes, as others work. Could you tell me what theme you are using, your system, etc, so that I can look into this further. Jon On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 03:53, vinh@...286... wrote: > there is what I get when I scroll with mouse: > > http://www.opti-mind.net/tmp/buggy.png > > Do you have any idea ? > > Thanks > > Vinh > > ******ADSL Tiscali, le Haut débit au meilleur prix ****** > Avec Tiscali, profitez de l'ADSL au meilleur prix partout en France ! > Pour profiter de cette offre exceptionnelle, cliquez ici : http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl > Sous réserve d'éligibilité à l'ADSL. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&opÌk > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Text Special Characters
by bulia byak 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

>>Each time I try I get a small empty rectangle instead of the character. I tested available builds back to the end of December, they're all broken. So probably this was never fixed except on linux. I don't know if it's worth trying to fix this particular bug, or perhaps we should work towards Pangofication instead, which will likely fix this and other font problems on windows. >>I am also getting the error message shown in the attached file. This one is unrelated, I fixed it now. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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crash in IntLigne::Copy on windows
by bulia byak 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

Fred, SF tracker is down so I'm writing you directly with another bug :) Since after 23rd, Inkscape on Windows started to crash when doing node editing or freehand drawing. The crash is not instantaneous, but it 100% happens after a few motions. Freehand crashes while you're still drawing a line which is not yet finalized, so this crash has to do with ctrlline rendering and not the regular renderer. Here's the backtrace: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0059ea5d in IntLigne::Copy(int, BitLigne**) () (gdb) bt #0 0x0059ea5d in IntLigne::Copy(int, BitLigne**) () #1 0x00590b08 in nr_pixblock_render_bpath_rgba(Shape*, unsigned, NRRectL&, char *, int) () #2 0x0058fe7b in sp_canvas_bpath_render(_SPCanvasItem*, SPCanvasBuf*) () #3 0x004663c8 in sp_canvas_group_render(_SPCanvasItem*, SPCanvasBuf*) () #4 0x004663c8 in sp_canvas_group_render(_SPCanvasItem*, SPCanvasBuf*) () #5 0x004663c8 in sp_canvas_group_render(_SPCanvasItem*, SPCanvasBuf*) () #6 0x004692e0 in sp_canvas_paint_rect(_SPCanvas*, int, int, int, int) () #7 0x004694ab in paint(_SPCanvas*) () #8 0x004676a7 in idle_handler(void*) () #9 0x00c5c865 in ?? () #10 0x00c5d07c in ?? () #11 0x00c5d6e3 in ?? () #12 0x00c5a21f in ?? () #13 0x00e6d109 in ?? () #14 0x00401b36 in sp_main_gui(int, char const**) () #15 0x00401902 in main () If you can't reproduce this and need more info, let me know, I can look up anything in gdb for you. Also there's another (less critical) bug on the visibility of handle lines in node edit, please see in the tracker. Simarilius: You can find a Windows binary of gdb at http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml, highly recommended. _________________________________________________________________ Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet access. https://broadband.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/

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Vector Aesthetics Presentation
by Jonathan Phillips 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

Hello All, I'm giving another presentation that kinda involves Inkscape at UC Berkeley on April 04, 2004. Please see http://art.berkeley.edu/040404/ if you are interested in attending. It should be very interesting. The event is free I believe and has food and whatnot. I will post info on the talk to the WIKI shortly. It is an overview of a framework I'm calling Vector Aesthetics. I will only discuss post-Bezier art/design/etc at the talk, but will end with Inkscape short-note. Anyone seeking help, or wants to have a little mini-meeting in the area, then please stop into that talk. Jon -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Text Special Characters
by bulia byak 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

>Each time I try I get a small empty rectangle instead of the character. Also please try to find the latest build that worked and report it when submitting the bug. _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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How to get up-to-date PO/POT files
by Arpad Biro 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

Hi, How can the current PO/POT files be obtained/generated? (I mean, files that contain the very latest English strings.) Are they updated automatically or do we have to update them by hand? Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Gradient Meshes
by bulia byak 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

>>When these things are done, I will be almost happy. It will be relatively >>easy then to emulate most meshes, fields, etc. by overlaying >>semitransparent elliptic gradients. > >How does that follow? Nobody has shown how to transform a gradient mesh >into a gradient field (a very good name actually). I'm not a mathematician; I'm a designer. I think I can approximate well enough (for design purposes) most useful meshes using ellipses, and a still better approximation is possible with blurred strokes of blur filter on shapes. See the current about.svg for a crude example. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Gradient Meshes
by bulia byak 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

>I think we're best off providing UI to utilize the features we do have >from SVG; And from Sodipodi. It's amazing how much stuff we can render but lack creation tools for. Bitmap fills, patterns, masks, clones (svg:use), multistage gradients... All we need for these is just UI and some bugfixing, and voila. This should be one of the main directions of Inkscape development IMHO. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Error on Inkscape web pages
by Alan Horkan 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

I thought you might want to fix this immediately so I'm mailing it to the list rather than filing a bug at the top of every page on the inkscape site is the following error message: Warning: open(/tmp/sess_8fbb6e7c1573df58b634cba6b111355e, O_RDWR) failed: No space left on device (28) in /home/groups/i/in/inkscape/inkscape_web/includes/header.php on line 6 - Alan

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Text Special Characters
by bulia byak 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

>Each time I try I get a small empty rectangle instead of the character. I can confirm that. Please file a bug. >I am also getting the error message shown in the attached file. This is likely unrelated, please file a separate bug. I also noticed that saving with non-ascii filenames on windows does not work (I will file this too). Did it ever work, or was it only fixed/tested on linux? _________________________________________________________________ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] more on win32 locale
by bulia byak 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

>Se attached diff for the function that causes the komma. Thanks, applied >For now I don't see other cases that generate wrong number output even >there are a lot printfs. Here's what I found: sp_arc_set_elliptical_path_attribute in sp-ellipse sp_stop_write and sp_gradient_repr_set_vector in sp-gradient sp-metrics one more _dump_path is sp-offset sp_shape_build in sp-shape still lots of printfs with %g in style.cpp sp_svg_write_percentage all postscript output in extensions/internal/ps.cpp sp_dtw_whatever_changed and 2 more cases in desktop-properties still more style writing in sp_fill_style_widget_paint_changed in dialogs/fill-style similar in stroke-style, also dash setting there widget_opacity_value_changed in item-properties setting font-size in text-edit Perhaps I still missed something... _________________________________________________________________ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] more on win32 locale
by bulia byak 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

I applied your first three patches, thanks. >1. When drawing a polygon (the star) numbers in the points element are >locale dependent, strange the star is drawn correctly. >2. The root document with and height are also locale dendent. Yes, and probably other places, too. What we need to do is just search for "printf" and see if the output of it goes into SVG, and if so, replace them (some printfs print debug messages on screen, you can leave them alone). Now that you know what to do, it should be easy :) >cvs diff sp-polygon.cpp (in directory C:\projekte\inkscape\src) Please resend this patch in diff -u format as were the previous ones. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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some UI suggestions ;-)
by Artemio 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

Hello all! Once again thank you so much for your great efforts and unbelievable results. I have several suggestions to make Inkscape UI even more usable. -= 1 =- Currently, most (if not all) the tool options, fill/stroke and similar dialogues appear as top-level windows. If Inkscape's main window is maximised, this makes coming back to a certain dialogue to slow (one has to use Alt-tab or go to taskbar). Possible solution: make all dialogue windows child windows so they never go away if one works on the canvas etc. This would drastically speed up the work with the app. Also, possibly remember open child dialogue windows and their positions - this way users would be able to create their very own In -= 2 =- In export dialogue, it would be nice to be able to export a PNG of the same size the canvas is, not just the size of the whole drawing. Drawing can be small, but people often need to export 300/600 dpi A4 page. -= 3 =- I think that most of "file", "edit" and "dialogs" menus should also be available as tollbar icons (like it is in Sodipodi). Of course, users should probably be able to configure this so those who prefer I'll tell you why I'm asking about this. Working with your left hand on the keys and right on the mouse is faster and better. But very often there are times when one puts his back on the armchair, holds a cup of warm tea with his left hand and wants to have some nice rest with drawing in his favorite Inkscape :-) This makes this person walk in menus too much. So if he'd be abke to add the file/edit/diaogue toolbars he'd be so much happier :-) These are just what I feel Inkspace is lacking, although nothing here is critical. Thank you very much again for Inkscape! Sincerely, Artemio. -- http://artemio.net/exp ::: Artemio's hot sound tweaks [local time 13:04:31 (GMT +3) 28 March 2004] [system uptime 1 hr 57 min]

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thank you
by Artemio 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

Dear Inkscape developers, at first, please take my sincere congratulations - Inkscape is on the 3rd place in my top 5 list of most used applications! :-) You have made possible what I have dreamt for over two years since I started using Linux (I use ONLY Linux since that time). You have done a really great work. Inkscape has absolutely everything I need from a vector editor and even more. It's very light, fast and the interface is very straightforward and intuitive. Thank you, thank you very much! Frankly, you have blown all my expectations away - I didn't think someone would do font->path thing possible, this is amazing! Now I can bring my SVGs _anywhere_ and they will be read just as I made them (already tested this). Please excuse me for talking too much, it's just that I really respect your work and wish you all the best! I do have some little suggestions to you, but I will write them in my next message :-) Good luck to you all and thanks so much again! Artemio. -- KDEvibes ::: audio environment for KDE ::: http://kdevibes.artemio.net/ [local time 12:55:00 (GMT +3) 28 March 2004] [system uptime 1 hr 48 min]

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text improvement
by bulia byak 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

* Clicking on a text object by text tool positions the cursor closest to the click, instead of at the end of the text object as before. _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] more on win32 locale
by bulia byak 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

>I found the problem that causes #1 but I didn't found the source that >writes the root width and height with the units. Initially it's set in document.cpp: /* Quick hack 2 - get default image size into document */ if (!sp_repr_attr (rroot, "width")) sp_repr_set_attr (rroot, "width", A4_WIDTH_STR); if (!sp_repr_attr (rroot, "height")) sp_repr_set_attr (rroot, "height", A4_HEIGHT_STR); but that uses preset strings "210mm" and "297mm" so you don't need to change that. (Ugly, btw, this needs to be reqritten properly, so it takes initial page size from a template.) Then it may also be set in root.cpp, but that is already covered, because it uses sp_repr_set_double. Finally it is also set in dialogs/desktop-properties.cpp (document options dialog): g_snprintf ( c, 32, "%g%s", adjustment->value, sp_unit_selector_get_unit (us)->abbr ); and this one needs to be replaced. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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svg canvas
by laurent belmonte 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

Hi all, I'm present my self : i am the developper of monkey-bubble (http://home.gna.org/home/monkeybubble). MonkeyBubble use svg gfx from the begining but i am not happy of my display architecture : i use librsvg to load svg to a bitmap. The main disadvantage of this, is that i can't do sophisticated transformation of vector object like rotation, zoom ..etc So i have read somewhere that inkscape plan to implement a vectorial canvas lib. I am very interesed in this. is the work already started ? where can i know more about this ? regards, Laurent Belmonte

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Release
by Ted Gould 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

Hey, Bulia noted on chat the other night that we're getting awful close to the 10% metric on bugs. We discussed, and I think it was generally accepted, that we should feature freeze for a release shortly. Peter has disabled the guideline locking until a GUI can be developed and Mental has moved the AST code on to its own branch. Currently in SF I see that we have 33 bugs out of 252 filed, so we need to fix eight of them. Ironically, we have 8 high level bugs - so I think that fixing those should be our target for the release. They are: 915374 - Command Line Printing doesnt work 914611 - inkview crash on startup 911772 - Extension Saving 911237 - export/save must warn when overwriting file 866103 - non-well-formed preferences.xml causes data loss 857316 - win32: non-english locales: font style matching broken 857311 - win32: correct output SVG of numerics is locale-dependent 852976 - win32: mouse becoming unresponsive I can definitely finish 911772 here shortly. 911237 won't be a big deal, I can do it, but someone else is welcome. Anyone want to grab these bugs for the release? --Ted

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Release
by bulia byak 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

>Also, I got distcheck to pass - so we're good there also. I haven't >looked through the release notes recently - how are they doing? Rather well, but they need an intro paragraph summarizing the focus of the release (bugfixing). Also the Known Problems may benefit from a few more items - please try to think what are the most annoying unsolved problems that remain. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Inkscape 0.38 Status
by Bryce Harrington 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

Here's the updated stats for today: 2/18 2/28 3/ 8 3/18 3/27 Goal ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- 1. Bugs 841633-896992 52 33 28 17 12 9 2. Open/Total Bug Ratio 33% 24% 25% 16% 13% 10% Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] more on win32 locale
by bulia byak 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

>>Please resend this patch in diff -u format as were the previous ones. >see attached file Thanks, applied _________________________________________________________________ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Principles of Design Graphics
by bulia byak 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

>In the "Elements and Principles of Design" tutorial", the Principles of >Design graphics are all absent. Should this be so? Try pinging Jon Phillips who is the author of this tutorial. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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multistop gradient editor
by bulia byak 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

Thanks to John Cliff, we now have a redesigned gradient editor that can handle any number of gradient stops in a gradient. I decided to commit this now because it's an important improvement which is orthogonal to everything else, so it is unlikely to cause any bugs in the existing code (although the new code itself may contain bugs, of course). The new editor is not as convenient yet as it could be; drawing gradient stops as draggable notches on the gradient strip is in our plans. Still, even as it is now, the editor is perfectly usable. Please test and share your experience. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] simplify (rect --> path) ???
by bulia byak 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

>I think simplify should keep the element as it is. An rectangle should >keep as a rectangle etc. This is not possible. A simplification is, by definition, a distortion. It may remove nodes and change their coordinates. On the other hand, a rect is, by definition, precisely a rect, mathematically correct without any distortions. You can't have it both ways :) Thanks for the patches, I will now review them. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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more on win32 locale
by Adib Taraben 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

Hello, I found two other issues that addresses the win32 locale bug: 1. When drawing a polygon (the star) numbers in the points element are locale dependent, strange the star is drawn correctly. 2. The root document with and height are also locale dendent. I found the problem that causes #1 but I didn't found the source that writes the root width and height with the units. There are so many functions with printf that I must think some of them are never called? Adib. cvs diff sp-polygon.cpp (in directory C:\projekte\inkscape\src) Index: sp-polygon.cpp =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/inkscape/inkscape/src/sp-polygon.cpp,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -r1.2 sp-polygon.cpp 20a21 > #include "stringstream.h" 99c100 < GString *result; --- > Inkscape::SVGOStringStream os; 101d101 < char *res; 105,106d104 < result = g_string_sized_new (40); < 112c110 < g_string_sprintfa (result, "%g,%g ", bpath [i].x3, bpath [i].y3); --- > os << bpath [i].x3 << "," << bpath [i].y3 << " "; 120,123c118,119 < res = result->str; < g_string_free (result, FALSE); < < return res; --- > > return g_strdup (os.str().c_str()); ***** CVS exited normally with code 1 *****

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simplify (rect --> path) ???
by Adib Taraben 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

Hello, during my work on simplify output I found that simplify destroys the basic structure of the element. The output is always a path. simplify on a rect-object becomes a path-object. circle will be path. I think simplify should keep the element as it is. An rectangle should keep as a rectangle etc. Adib.

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win32 locale bugs patches that work
by Adib Taraben 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

Hello, I have some patches for the win32 locale bugs (floating point output with komma instead point) I made the diffs diff -u4 oldfile nexfile > difffile I am using a german winXP. splivarot addresses simplify path repr-util addresses rect, circle output x and y etc. coordinates with komma instead point style addresses rect, cirlce output opacity etc. with komma instead point I don't have access to the bugs page, so I don't know the numbers yet. HTH, Adib. --- style.cpp 2004-03-26 16:16:46.000000000 +0100 +++ style.adib.cpp 2004-03-26 16:10:56.000000000 +0100 @@ -36,8 +36,9 @@ #include "marker-status.h" #include "uri-references.h" #include "sp-paint-server.h" #include "style.h" +#include "stringstream.h" namespace Inkscape { @@ -2044,14 +2045,17 @@ */ static gint sp_style_write_ifloat (gchar *p, gint len, const gchar *key, SPIFloat *val, SPIFloat *base, guint flags) { + Inkscape::SVGOStringStream os; + if (((flags & SP_STYLE_FLAG_IFSET) && val->set) || ((flags & SP_STYLE_FLAG_IFDIFF) && val->set && (val->value != base->value))) { if (val->inherit) { return g_snprintf (p, len, "%s:inherit;", key); } else { - return g_snprintf (p, len, "%s:%g;", key, val->value); + os << key << ":" << val->value << ";"; + return g_strlcpy (p, os.str().c_str(), len); } } return 0; } @@ -2062,15 +2066,17 @@ */ static gint sp_style_write_iscale24 (gchar *p, gint len, const gchar *key, SPIScale24 *val, SPIScale24 *base, guint flags) { + Inkscape::SVGOStringStream os; if (((flags & SP_STYLE_FLAG_IFSET) && val->set) || ((flags & SP_STYLE_FLAG_IFDIFF) && val->set && (val->value != base->value))) { if (val->inherit) { return g_snprintf (p, len, "%s:inherit;", key); } else { - return g_snprintf (p, len, "%s:%g;", key, SP_SCALE24_TO_FLOAT (val->value)); + os << key << ":" << SP_SCALE24_TO_FLOAT(val->value) << ";"; + return g_strlcpy (p, os.str().c_str(), len); } } return 0; } --- splivarot.cpp 2004-03-26 16:16:04.000000000 +0100 +++ splivarot.adib.cpp 2004-03-26 14:58:33.000000000 +0100 @@ -17,8 +17,9 @@ #include <libart_lgpl/art_misc.h> #include "xml/repr.h" #include "svg/svg.h" +#include "stringstream.h" #include "sp-path.h" #include "sp-text.h" #include "style.h" #include "inkscape.h" @@ -1544,24 +1545,23 @@ gchar * liv_svg_dump_path (Path * path) { - GString *result; - result = g_string_sized_new (40); + Inkscape::SVGOStringStream os; for (int i = 0; i < path->descr_nb; i++) { Path::path_descr theD = path->descr_cmd[i]; int typ = theD.flags & descr_type_mask; if (typ == descr_moveto) { Path::path_descr_moveto* nData=(Path::path_descr_moveto*)(path->descr_data+theD.dStart); - g_string_sprintfa (result, "M %lf %lf ", nData->p[0], nData->p[1]); + os << "M " << nData->p[0] << " " << nData->p[1] << " "; } else if (typ == descr_lineto) { Path::path_descr_lineto* nData=(Path::path_descr_lineto*)(path->descr_data+theD.dStart); - g_string_sprintfa (result, "L %lf %lf ", nData->p[0], nData->p[1]); + os << "L " << nData->p[0] << " " << nData->p[1] << " "; } else if (typ == descr_cubicto) { Path::path_descr_cubicto* nData=(Path::path_descr_cubicto*)(path->descr_data+theD.dStart); @@ -1570,32 +1570,34 @@ NR::Point tmp = path->PrevPoint (i - 1); lastX=tmp[0]; lastY=tmp[1]; } - g_string_sprintfa (result, "C %lf %lf %lf %lf %lf %lf ", - lastX + nData->stD[0] / 3, - lastY + nData->stD[1] / 3, - nData->p[0] - nData->enD[0] / 3, - nData->p[1] - nData->enD[1] / 3, nData->p[0],nData->p[1]); - } + os << "C " << lastX + nData->stD[0] / 3 << " " + << lastY + nData->stD[1] / 3 << " " + << nData->p[0] - nData->enD[0] / 3 << " " + << nData->p[1] - nData->enD[1] / 3 << " " + << nData->p[0] << " " + << nData->p[1] << " "; + } else if (typ == descr_arcto) { Path::path_descr_arcto* nData=(Path::path_descr_arcto*)(path->descr_data+theD.dStart); - // g_string_sprintfa (result, "L %lf %lf ",theD.d.a.x,theD.d.a.y); - g_string_sprintfa (result, "A %g %g %g %i %i %g %g ", nData->rx,nData->ry, nData->angle, - (nData->large) ? 1 : 0,(nData->clockwise) ? 0 : 1, nData->p[NR::X],nData->p[NR::Y]); + os << "A " << nData->rx << " " + << nData->ry << " " + << nData->angle << " " + << ((nData->large) ? "1" : "0") << " " + << ((nData->clockwise) ? "0" : "1") << " " + << nData->p[NR::X] << " " + << nData->p[NR::Y] << " "; } else if (typ == descr_close) { - g_string_sprintfa (result, "z "); + os << "z "; } else { } } - char *res; - res = result->str; - g_string_free (result, FALSE); - - return res; + return g_strdup (os.str().c_str()); + } --- repr-util.cpp 2004-03-26 16:24:02.000000000 +0100 +++ repr-util.adib.cpp 2004-03-26 15:35:13.000000000 +0100 @@ -29,8 +29,9 @@ #include <glib.h> #include "repr-private.h" +#include "stringstream.h" /*##################### # DEFINITIONS #####################*/ @@ -630,21 +631,16 @@ unsigned int sp_repr_set_double (SPRepr *repr, const gchar *key, double val) { - gchar c[32]; - + Inkscape::SVGOStringStream os; + g_return_val_if_fail (repr != NULL, FALSE); g_return_val_if_fail (key != NULL, FALSE); - //## This can be done in several ways. g_ascii_formatd() - //## might be the best for now. g_snprintf() can be - //## affected by LOCALE. g_ascii_formatd() is always "C" locale. - //g_snprintf (c, 32, "%.8f", val); - //sp_xml_dtoa (c, val, 8, 0, FALSE); - g_ascii_formatd (c, sizeof (c), "%.8f", val); - - return sp_repr_set_attr (repr, key, c); + os << val; + + return sp_repr_set_attr (repr, key, os.str().c_str()); } unsigned int sp_repr_set_double_default (SPRepr *repr, const gchar *key, double val, double def, double e)

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Updated spanish translation
by Lucas Vieites Fariña 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

Hi, I just uploaded a 'patch' with the spanish po file. As soon as I get a little extra free time I'll finish the tutorial. See you, -- Lucas Vieites Fariña Dpto. Desarrollo <lucas@...212...> Asix Informática http://www.asixinformatica.com/ Tel/Fax: +34 986 54 26 98

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Release
by bulia byak 25 Mar '04

25 Mar '04

Ted, first, there's a compilation errror in db.cpp: db.cpp:230: error: redefinition of `GSList* Inkscape::Extension::DB::get_output_list()' db.cpp:217: error: `GSList* Inkscape::Extension::DB::get_output_list()' previously defined here db.cpp:230: error: no `GSList* Inkscape::Extension::DB::get_output_list()' member function declared in class `Inkscape::Extension::DB' make[4]: *** [db.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/d/ink/inkscape/src/extension' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/d/ink/inkscape/src/extension' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/d/ink/inkscape/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/d/ink/inkscape' make: *** [all] Error 2 Now on bugs: > > >857316 - win32: non-english locales: font style matching broken > > >852976 - win32: mouse becoming unresponsive > >So we need a couple of replacements for these then. I noticed there are >a couple of Mac OS X bugs that were put in the repository - has anyone >had a chance to look at those? Besides there are some that are unconfirmed: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=911292&group_id=9… Unconfirmed, against 0.37, and seems to be a GTK issue anyway https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=908565&group_id=9… No reproducible steps, against 0.37; the crash itself is 99% fixed by the new rasterizer, although maybe not the underlying cause (hard to tell) https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=915445&group_id=9… Not reproducible, the original report used a broken font. Works for me. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=922904&group_id=9… Works with the latest build on my Windows 98. If anyonce could test some of these bugs to resolve them one way or the other that would be helpful. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RPM's now in fedora.us
by Peter Linnell 25 Mar '04

25 Mar '04

Hi all, Just a note to let you know, Inkscape 0.37 RPMS have been approved by Fedora QA and is now in the fedora.us repsitory under stable - aka Fedora Extra's. The current Fedora rpms on the sourceforge page are the same packages, just built by me. This will be more important with the release of Fedora Core2, as it will be already configured to download and install Inkscape and other packages in stable. Now, that there is a good spec file, updating to 0.38 should be trivial. Peter

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Release
by bulia byak 25 Mar '04

25 Mar '04

>Currently in SF I see that we have 33 bugs out of 252 filed, so we need >to fix eight of them. Ironically, we have 8 high level bugs - so I >think that fixing those should be our target for the release. Agreed, although I'm not sure we can fix all remaining high-level bugs soon. I think we'll have to leave a couple of them standing for the release (fixing the corresponding number of minor ones instead). >915374 - Command Line Printing doesnt work There's a Sodipodi patch in our tracker. Someone who has a printer and can test it should take on this one. >914611 - inkview crash on startup I haven't looked but this one should be easy. >866103 - non-well-formed preferences.xml causes data loss Bryce was going to look into that one. What needs to be done is simply to back up the prefs file before saving, so it should not be difficult. >857316 - win32: non-english locales: font style matching broken That's difficult and may not be worthwhile to fix before we switch the font system to Pango anyway. >857311 - win32: correct output SVG of numerics is locale-dependent I'm working on that. Should be ready for the release. >852976 - win32: mouse becoming unresponsive This one is difficult. I found no easy way to fix it. The problem is that as soon as grabbed item goes beyond the screen edge, it stops receiving mouse events (although it's still grabbed). The top-level window receives the events instead, but it's difficult to dispatch those events in the window code because for this it must know exactly what type of object is grabbed (object, knot, guideline) and what handler to call. Annoyingly, Sodipodi does not have this problem on Windows for some reason. We really must brainstorm this one. _________________________________________________________________ Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. http://specials.msn.com/msn/security.asp

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] tutorial news
by Cédric GEMY 25 Mar '04

25 Mar '04

Thanks, I'll compare this to my translation and take in charge to pass it into french. SOON AVAILABLE. Cédric

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RE: Gradient Colour Bug?
by bulia byak 24 Mar '04

24 Mar '04

>When I change the gradient colours in any one object, every object gradient >changes to the new colours. It happens for linear and radial gradients. This is as designed. When you assign the same gradient to more than one object, they share the gradient (but not position/direction). If you want a new object to use an independent copy of the gradient, press the Add button on the fill/stroke dialog. _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Release
by Ted Gould 24 Mar '04

24 Mar '04

On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 03:10, Lucas Vieites Fariña wrote: > I suppose a 'feature freeze' means I can still update the gui > translation, doesn't it? Yes, ofcourse! Most projects do a 'string freeze' where they don't change translatable strings to help translators. Now that we have more people starting to translate Inkscape should we start doing that? > How much time is there between a 'feature freeze' and the final > release date? Well, usually I would say a week or so. Because this release has bug targets - it is going to be until the bugs are fixed - so it is a touch special. --Ted

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Re: Supershapes for dia?
by Alan Horkan 24 Mar '04

24 Mar '04

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, W. Borgert wrote: > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:27:41 +0000 > From: W. Borgert <debacle@...153...> > Reply-To: dia-list@...45... > To: dia-list@...45... > Subject: Supershapes for dia? > > This would make a nice addition to dia: http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/~pbourke/curves/supershape/ > (with C code exmample). Any takers? "The supershape equation is an extension of the both the equation of the sphere and ellipse" Very cool. Curved stars and polygons, a weird droplet shape. Ooh pretty! It is like Spirograph* all over again. I think for a complicated sphere/ellipse like this to be really practical it would require something like handles to allow interactive adjustment a feature that Dia doesn't have. I think it would be difficult to make this into a simple to use feature and I'm not even sure the markup would be all that easy generate either (a complex SVG path I'd guess) I'm not sure this is ideal for Dia. In my humble opinion, the ideal would be if other applications would provide the drawing tools Dia needs and Dia would focus on fast production of technical diagrams from premade shapes. A more generic way to plot equations as paths in Dia might be approrpriate to Dia. I have forwarded a copy of this mail to the Inkscape developers who I hope might be interested to implement an advanced Ellipse tool like this. Despite my reservations on how best to implement this it it would certainly be great if someone was interested enough to implement it. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ * Obligatory Simpsons quote: "Dr. S: Wait: did you know that there's a direct correlation between the decline of Spirograph and the rise in gang activity? Think about it." PS Please dont crosspost in reply to this message. I have deliberately set the Reply-To to go to me. The Dia list will overwrite this and set the Reply-To as the Dia list and the Inkscape list will leave it alone, so please respond only to the relevant list.

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tutorial news
by bulia byak 24 Mar '04

24 Mar '04

* The Inkscape tutorial is split into two parts, Basic and Advanced, and significantly expanded (new sections on offsets, simplification, compound paths, text tool, and more). Most new material is at the end of the Advanced part. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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freehand continuity
by bulia byak 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

Fred, Huge thanks for your bugfixes today. Having fixed the spoonshapes, maybe you can also look at the continuity problem? It's not exactly a bug, but each segment of a freehand line is approximated without taking into account previous segments, and as a result, all nodes on the path are cusp, to various degrees. It would be much nicer if the approximator would take into account a wider context to create smooth nodes most of the time (and only creating cusps when there are really sharp turns). Do you think this is possible/easy with the current code? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Gradient Meshes
by bulia byak 22 Mar '04

22 Mar '04

>Now, the question is: Is this useful? Do you think it's just a >half-assed gradient mesh or is it something that extends the artistic >tools available in Inkscape? My IMHO is that while this is nice and cool, it would not be very useful in my design work. I think that the important thing is to get the essentials right, and then users can build their own complex things from these essentialas. With regard to gradients, here's what is still glaringly missing: - elliptic gradients (that can be rotated, with both axes adjustable) - non-linear gradient functions (currently all gradients are linear, which often looks too crude and artificial) - on-canvas editing of gradients When these things are done, I will be almost happy. It will be relatively easy then to emulate most meshes, fields, etc. by overlaying semitransparent elliptic gradients. What would satisfy 100% of my gradient needs is stroke patterns, i.e. the ability to paint a stroke with repeated copies of objects. I would then take a circle with circular transparency gradient and repeat it along a path, to receive a blurred stroke that can be given any shape and combined with other blurred strokes for any gradient-mesh-like effects. Besides stroke patterns, this also requires fixing this bug: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=859579&group_id=93… Still another alternative is a support of SVG filters, most importanly gaussian blur. If you can take arbitrary shapes and blur them into transparency, then again, it'll cover most uses of gradient meshes, and will potentially be more convenient. This is just an IMHO. Others may love to have the gradient meshes in Inkscape and will find unique uses for them, but I'm speaking from my design experience. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Gradient Meshes
by Ted Gould 22 Mar '04

22 Mar '04

Okay, Mental a few nights ago put out the question: Can we do gradient meshes with standard SVG? So I've been thinking about it. Here is my idea. (also, I went into Illustrator, made a gradient mesh and exported it as SVG. Illustrator just renders it as a bitmap in the SVG file. I'm seriously unimpressed with the Adobe folks, I expect more) Okay, so we can think of a gradient mesh as points of color that are adjustable in their length and path of the color. There can potentially be multiple colors all over the area of the object, each contributing to a complex color created within. I think if we look at each of the points, and then divide the whole object into squares based off of those colors and the next color. So if: ------------------- | | | c1 | | | | | | c2 | | | ------------------- we can look at like: ------------------- | | | | |---c1-------------| | | | | | | | | |------------c2----| | | | | ------------------- Then, make a square for each area with the color that effects it. So there would be 4 squares with c2 and four with c1. Each of these squares would have a radial gradient that goes from the color to transparent. I think that this could also be extended to not be square shapes, so that the color could be 'turned' and expanded in odd ways through transforms of the shapes. I haven't played with this though. Anyway, we take all these squares, and then define them as a pattern for the shape. So that there can be complex shapes without us going crazy, and they can be resized and the mesh gradient grows with the bounding box. Okay, that's the idea. Thoughts? Comments? Does this do what people use gradient meshes for? I haven't played with them alot. --Ted PS - I attached a hand coded SVG file kinda showing what I'm thinking.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] inkscape interface icons
by Peter Linnell 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

One more good reason for a single icon file: packaging. One of the things which has helped to make my life easier is the sane way inkscape is setup as a source tarball and a well done configure script. This made making decent rpms miles easier. If you have spent half a night chasing down missing files (sometimes icons) and fixing broken makefiles trying to build an rpm - you'll understand completely ;) Peter

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[Fwd: [cairo] Cairo SDL Demo]
by Jonathan Phillips 20 Mar '04

20 Mar '04

I keep tabs on CAIRO's list. Totally far out that you can use CAIRO with SDL and SVG. That means that games and multimedia could use SVG now. This is far out and I hope that here soon we will discuss our future plans with CAIRO developers. Jon -----Forwarded Message----- > From: Eric Windisch <lists@...277...> > To: cairo@...278... > Subject: [cairo] Cairo SDL Demo > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:23:34 -0500 > > I spoke with Carl on IRC and decided to build a demo for using Cairo > with SDL. I don't have CVS write permission, so I'm providing a > (temporary) link to it. Maybe we will start seeing more SDL programs > using SVG now :) > > http://www.grokthis.net/~raptor/cairo-sdl.tgz > > Feedback is welcome. -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] my win32 patch does not work, why (splivarot.cpp)
by bulia byak 20 Mar '04

20 Mar '04

Hi, we decided that the best way to unify serialization is via a C++ stream. I just checked in src/svg/stringstream.h which is a beginning of such a class that can be used already. If we use this class throughout, later it will be easy to change precision or number formatting globally for all SVG output, as well as to add custom serializers for our own classes. An example of using this class is in function sp_svg_write_path() in svg-path.cpp. You declare a variable (os) of this class and then feed it with the data you need to serialize using <<. To access the result, you call os.gcharp() which returns const gchar * of the accummulated string, and you'll probably want to also do a g_strdup on it (depending on whether it's going to be used immediately in the same function, or returned or sent elsewhere). So, if you're interested in helping out, you can start searching for printf functions that are used for serializing into SVG (in splivarot and in other places) and replace them with the stream stuff. Of course the first to replace are printfs that serialize floating point numbers. Please do one function at a time and test it thoroughly after the replacement. Do a test patch for one file, and if it works we can give you developer access to CVS to speed things up. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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inkscape crash on startup
by David Christian Berg 20 Mar '04

20 Mar '04

Yesterday I tried to open the attached document and it wouldn't, but cause inkscape to crash. Since I created it with inkscape I thought, well, get the newest cvs and it'll be working again. but having installed todays cvs inkscape crashes on startup without any error messages of use: ** (inkscape:11051): WARNING **: Emergency save activated Emergency save completed. Inkscape will close now. If you can reproduce this crash, please file a bug at www.inkscape.org with a detailed description of the steps leading to the crash, so we can fix it.Segmentation fault At least I this doesn't help _me_. I hope someone can help me... maybe find an error in the svg code, so that I could at least open it with sodipodi (which still starts up) or anything... I need to finish that flyer over till monday and it really bothers me that I can't open it right now. Thanx in advance David

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Passpartout and Inkscape
by Bluefuture 20 Mar '04

20 Mar '04

It could be useful a collaboration between Passpartout (a GTK DTP projects like scribus) and Inkscape in particular for this todo point: * Simple graphics directly in passepartout, probably as a subset of SVG, as well as being able to import SVG graphics. Passpartout home page: http://www.stacken.kth.se/project/pptout/ For contact Passpartout developer managers: Fredrik Arnerup <e97_far@...270...> and Rasmus Kaj <kaj@...270...>. Regars. Blue

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] one more :)
by bulia byak 19 Mar '04

19 Mar '04

>mmmhh, maybe. one of the "speedup" i put was to delay >uncrossing of polygons until they appear in the >visible part of the canvas. the reason was that i add >to open some huge svg files (thousands of elements, >lots of text; automatically generated) and at high >zooms it was still extremely slow, because it was >computing all the polygons, even the ones outside of >the visible portion of the canvas. of course, delaying >the computation means you have a slowdown each time a >new polygon enters the visible area, instead of a >unique slowdown at zoom time. if that behavior bugs >you, comment the line in nr_arena_shape_update() where >shape->delayed_shp is set to true; that way you'll >deactivate delaying. I certainly do not want to desactivate any speedups you're working on :) Instead, I worked around this by increasing the delay which governs accelerated scrolling from 1/8 to 1/4 sec. Previously if some redraw took more than 1/8 sec, it dropped the accumulated acceleration. Now it scrolls smoothly again (at least for keys.svg in fullscreen, which is a rather complex file). _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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small gradient editing improvements
by bulia byak 19 Mar '04

19 Mar '04

In the linear and radial gradient panes of the Fill and Stroke dialog: * You can press Ctrl while dragging handles to snap the linear gradient angle to 15 degrees increments (makes it easy to create strictly horizontal/vertical gradients). * The handles, bounding box, and gradient axes now use inversion for better visibility. * The default linear gradient now goes through the center of the object. * The radial gradient displays a radius handle for adjusting the gradient radius. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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inkscape interface icons
by Jonathan Phillips 19 Mar '04

19 Mar '04

Hello All, I'm now well versed in how to implement new icons in Inkscape. If you design icons and would like to help develop an excellent icon theme for Inkscape, then either A.) jump on chat and I can show you how to edit icons, and/or B.) Make your icons and forward them to me and I will implement them. There are plenty of icons left to designed. Don't forget that artists are developers as well... I'm moving all icons in the application to icons.svg which is by default at: /usr/local/lib/inkscape/icons/icons.svg If you open that file up and copy how those were laid out, and then name the group of the file icon uniquely, that is the best way to understand how to add/edit icons. Forward me any changes and I'll add them into the app. Jon -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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and more...
by bulia byak 18 Mar '04

18 Mar '04

Here's another bad one: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=918478&group_id=9… _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Re: dialog delete handlers
by bulia byak 18 Mar '04

18 Mar '04

>Can someone else have a look and confirm my analysis? I'm not so >familiar with glib/gtk signals, perhaps I've missed something simple. I second that. The difference between data and dlg does seem strange, but I have no idea of what may be happening here. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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one more :)
by bulia byak 18 Mar '04

18 Mar '04

The bug I wrote you about earlier today is fixed, thanks :) Now there's another: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=918458&group_id=9… Besides the scrolling by Ctrl+arrows is now rather uneven - it used to accelerate monotonously but now it moves jerkily. Do you think this is something related to rendering too (e.g. slowdown)? _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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dialog delete handlers
by bulia byak 18 Mar '04

18 Mar '04

Peter, in align.cpp and transformation.cpp, in delete signal handlers, you wrote static gboolean sp_transformation_dialog_delete(GtkObject *, GdkEvent *, gpointer data) { if ( data != static_cast<gpointer>(dlg) ) { g_warning("possible bug: dlg differs from passed data"); /* E.g. maybe we shouldn't update the global x,y,w,h, or maybe we should use dlg instead of dead_dlg below. */ } GtkWindow &dead_dlg = *static_cast<GtkWindow *>(data); gtk_window_get_position(&dead_dlg, &x, &y); gtk_window_get_size(&dead_dlg, &w, &h); instead of the previous code which simply used dlg, ignoring data. I don't quite understand the reason for this change. Besides: - Why only these two files? The same code is used in all dialogs. - Attempting to close Inkscape with any of these two dialogs open will crash (bug 917122). So for now I restored the old code to fix the crash, but I'm just curious why you deemed this change necessary. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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rendering bug
by bulia byak 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

Hi, I think it's your recent caching changes that caused this: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=604306&group_id=93438&func=browse Can you please have a look? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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853858 patch comments
by bulia byak 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

1. - GSList *sl; - sl = g_slist_copy ((GSList *) sp_selection_repr_list (selection)); - sl = g_slist_sort (sl, (GCompareFunc) sp_repr_compare_position); + const GSList *items = sp_selection_item_list (SP_DT_SELECTION (desktop)); I.e. you removed sorting the copied list of items. Why? The result is that the copied items now do not preserve z-order when pasted; they're pasted in the order in which they were selected, which is wrong (try it). And you cannot sort the list returned by sp_selectiion_{repr_}list, only a copy of it, which is what was done in the original code. 2. You only copy gradients applied to the fill, not to the stroke, so gradient-filled stroke is lost when copying between documents. 3. Here you check that the fill is either pattern or gradient, and then, without any further check, cast it into a gradient: + if (style && style->fill.type == SP_PAINT_TYPE_PAINTSERVER) { /* Object has pattern or gradient fill*/ + SPGradient *gradient = SP_GRADIENT (SP_OBJECT_STYLE_FILL_SERVER (items->data)); The result is quite predictable - it crashes when you try to copy an object with pattern fill. (Probably with bitmap fill also.) 4. When you paste copied objects with gradients within the same document, it still adds a copy of the gradient (with different id), although the pasted object still refers to the old gradient. This will lead to an unchecked growth of defs each time you do copy/paste. This should be prevented. E.g. check if the current defs contain an exact copy of the gradient you're about to add (not only same id but also same content), and if so, skip adding it. 5. Same thing when you copy an object with gradient to another document and that document already contains a different gradient with the same id. The result is that the pasted object uses that other document's gradient (different from its original gradient), while the correct gradient is added to the defs with a different id (and thus left unused). Fixing this is more complex: if the document you're pasting to contains a gradient with the same id but different content, you must change the id both of the gradient you're inserting to the defs _and_ the reference in the object style. The difficulty being, to check for identical content, you must check not only the content of the repr, but all other reprs it is linked to, and their links, and so on until the tree is exhausted. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] inkscape crash on startup
by bulia byak 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

> > Even if I try to start it without loading a file. It also > > produces a dialog saying "Inkscape has encountered an internal error and >will > > close now". > > -- > >That's what I meant, when saying on startup... Can you do a backtrace? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] inkscape crash on startup
by bulia byak 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

>I get precisely the same error, using an "inkscape-current" downloaded and >compiled today. Even if I try to start it without loading a file. It also >produces a dialog saying "Inkscape has encountered an internal error and >will >close now". Please file the bug to the tracker, with all relevant details. Especially useful would be a backtrace. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Fileselector
by Ted Gould 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

Hey, I was looking through the new fileselector code and found a couple of issues that I think should be worked out. Namely, with the inclusion of input and output formats that are done through extensions. Previously, the file dialog called the extensions code to get a menu that contained all the input/output formats that could be handled, and each one had a key attached to it that specified which extension should be used. I'm not saying that this is a good thing, there is too much GUI code in the extensions system with that solution. But, I still think that the extensions system needs to be queried on the matter, and get that key passed into the save functions. Probably the best thing would be a list of verbs, but I don't know if that is the best option as these aren't actions as much as selections. So, I'm proposing this: GSList * Inkscape::Extension::get_input_list (void); This will return a list of items that are: gchar * name gchar * extension gchar * key And then the GUI code can do what ever it wants with them, so long as it returns the key when it finishes (along with the filename ;) Thoughts? --Ted

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] inkscape crash on startup
by bulia byak 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

>Yesterday I tried to open the attached document and it wouldn't, but >cause inkscape to crash. >Since I created it with inkscape I thought, well, get the newest cvs and >it'll be working again. but having installed todays cvs inkscape crashes >on startup without any error messages of use: I can open your attached file with no problem using today's CVS. Except that it warns it can't find the font AF PEPSI and the embedded .tif image is also missing. Maybe it would crash on that .tif or that font, but I can't check that. If you still can't open it, submit a bug and attach all relevant files to it. Crash bugs are usually fixed quickly. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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my win32 patch does not work, why (splivarot.cpp)
by Adib Taraben 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

Hello, I tried to start to fix those (win32) locale problems with the float numbers. In the file splivarot.cpp which is the "simplify path" command I replaced the printf's with g_ascii_formatd. This function is locale independent. Unfortunately it does not solve the problem. Anyhow what is the desired method generating locale undependent number output? Am I on the right way? Thanks, Adib. --- splivarot_org.cpp 2004-03-14 17:09:02.000000000 +0100 +++ splivarot.cpp 2004-03-16 14:57:26.000000000 +0100 @@ -1542,34 +1542,45 @@ if (typ == descr_moveto) { Path::path_descr_moveto* nData=(Path::path_descr_moveto*)(path->descr_data+theD.dStart); - g_string_sprintfa (result, "M %lf %lf ", nData->p[0], nData->p[1]); + gchar cX[33], cY[33]; + g_string_sprintfa (result, "M %s %s ", g_ascii_formatd(cX, 32, "%f", nData->p[0]), g_ascii_formatd(cY, 32, "%f", nData->p[1])); } else if (typ == descr_lineto) { Path::path_descr_lineto* nData=(Path::path_descr_lineto*)(path->descr_data+theD.dStart); - g_string_sprintfa (result, "L %lf %lf ", nData->p[0], nData->p[1]); + gchar cX[33], cY[33]; + g_string_sprintfa (result, "L %s %s ", g_ascii_formatd(cX, 32, "%f", nData->p[0]), g_ascii_formatd(cY, 32, "%f", nData->p[1])); } else if (typ == descr_cubicto) { Path::path_descr_cubicto* nData=(Path::path_descr_cubicto*)(path->descr_data+theD.dStart); float lastX, lastY; + gchar cX1[33], cY1[33], cX2[33], cY2[33], cX[33], cY[33]; { NR::Point tmp = path->PrevPoint (i - 1); lastX=tmp[0]; lastY=tmp[1]; } - g_string_sprintfa (result, "C %lf %lf %lf %lf %lf %lf ", - lastX + nData->stD[0] / 3, - lastY + nData->stD[1] / 3, - nData->p[0] - nData->enD[0] / 3, - nData->p[1] - nData->enD[1] / 3, nData->p[0],nData->p[1]); + g_string_sprintfa (result, "C %s %s %s %s %s %s ", + g_ascii_formatd(cX1, 32, "%f", lastX + nData->stD[0] / 3), + g_ascii_formatd(cY1, 32, "%f", lastY + nData->stD[1] / 3), + g_ascii_formatd(cX2, 32, "%f", nData->p[0] - nData->enD[0] / 3), + g_ascii_formatd(cY2, 32, "%f", nData->p[1] - nData->enD[1] / 3), + g_ascii_formatd(cX, 32, "%f", nData->p[0]), + g_ascii_formatd(cY, 32, "%f", nData->p[1])); } else if (typ == descr_arcto) { Path::path_descr_arcto* nData=(Path::path_descr_arcto*)(path->descr_data+theD.dStart); + gchar cRX[33], cRY[33], cA[33], cSX[33], cSY[33]; // g_string_sprintfa (result, "L %lf %lf ",theD.d.a.x,theD.d.a.y); - g_string_sprintfa (result, "A %g %g %g %i %i %g %g ", nData->rx,nData->ry, nData->angle, - (nData->large) ? 1 : 0,(nData->clockwise) ? 0 : 1, nData->p[NR::X],nData->p[NR::Y]); + g_string_sprintfa (result, "A %s %s %s %i %i %s %s ", + g_ascii_formatd(cRX, 32, "%f", nData->rx), + g_ascii_formatd(cRY, 32, "%f", nData->ry), + g_ascii_formatd(cA, 32, "%f", nData->angle), + (nData->large) ? 1 : 0, (nData->clockwise) ? 0 : 1, + g_ascii_formatd(cSX, 32, "%f", nData->p[NR::X]), + g_ascii_formatd(cSY, 32, "%f", nData->p[NR::Y])); } else if (typ == descr_close) {

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] graphics troubles between SODI and Inkscape
by bulia byak 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

>Okay, this file looked fine the other day in Inkscape, and is fine in >SODIPODI 0.34. It is smeared in Inkscape now. Any quick thoughts on >this? Yeah :) Forgotten break in line 541 of src/svg/svg-path.cpp. Fixed now. Thanks for reporting. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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graphics troubles between SODI and Inkscape
by Jonathan Phillips 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

Okay, this file looked fine the other day in Inkscape, and is fine in SODIPODI 0.34. It is smeared in Inkscape now. Any quick thoughts on this? Jon -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...247... http://www.jonphillips.info

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new icons
by bulia byak 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

I checked in new icons for the selector toolbar - grouping, z-order, flip/rotate (couldn't stand those old ones any longer :) Comments are welcome. _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Inkscape Project Status 2004-03-15
by Bryce Harrington 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

The bug hunt has been rumbling along. Easy bugs are getting knocked out left and right, harder ones are being tackled through concerted teamwork. It's taken quite a bit of time to get to this point, but finally we can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Special thanks to all users who have taken the time to identify and report bugs; we've uncovered and solved a large number of issues that we never would have caught ourselves. Thanks is also due to the team of developers tackling these bugs, especially the new developers using the bug hunt as a good way to get involved with the codebase. Tonight a user popped onto Jabber to share what he's using Inkscape for - to make the text bubbles for his comics! http://www.cybersewer.com/comics/16 Statistics Nov 15 Dec 15 Jan 15 Feb 15 Mar 15 ========== ====== ====== ====== ====== ====== Lifetime Rank on SourceForge: 4391 2452 1928 1599 * (68.5%) (82.4%) (86.1%) (88.6%) * Max Week's Rank on SourceForge: 62 27 321 70 * (99.6%) (99.8%) (97.5%) (99.5%) * Total SF Page Views * 86,000 126,500 200,000 * Total SF Downloads * 3640 5,735 10,000 * Total Freshmeat URL Hits 746 2237 2,958 3,437 4,670 Total Freshmeat Subscriptions 16 28 33 35 50 Lines of Code in src/: 115,901 132,134 166,914 167,386 177,286 Code lines 100,549 133,150 131,540 138,457 Comment line 11,591 12,468 12,995 15,584 Blank 20,559 21,929 23,513 24,061 Lines of Docs in doc/: 1,135 2,225 3,000 4,500 4,434 Lines of content in website: 1,173 2,090 2,885 4,300 5,087 Size of the Inkscape wiki: 3,700 7,385 11,284 13,114 14,840 Minutes since last ChangeLog mod: 360 1260 6 2 0 Bugs open/total: 9/15 67/111 74/160 53/178 43/244 Features open/total: 18/18 40/45 104/120 120/137 151/184 Patches open/total: 1/ 6 6/25 4/32 2/ 35 6/ 45 CVS Commits (as per inkscape-cvs): 481 * * 2796 3070 Inkscape-devel membership: 49 64 64 63 75 Inkscape-announce membership: 9 16 22 26 35 Inkscape-user membership: 0 21 38 * - Statistics unavailable

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Updated RPMS
by Peter Linnell 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

Hi all, I have uploaded updated SuSE and FC-1 rpms for Inkscape, which have some minor spec file tweaks. The first QA review from Fedora QA was pretty positive. So, getting Inkscape into the Fedora stable repository should happen as soon as it is further QA'd. The 0.38 release notes have a section I added on Build Requires. Can someone give that a good look over to make sure the versions are correct? Cheers, Peter

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is Python scripting supported yet?
by Kevin Altis 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

Is Python scripting of Inkscape supported yet? If not is it still planned? ka

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Bug 866103: non-well-formed preferences.xml causes data los
by bulia byak 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

>What's a good approach for dealing with this issue? Do we need to have >a validation step so that it's possible to descriminate good from bad >files? The most useful and probably easiest is to create a backup file each time preferences are written. This, combined with modal errorbox saying that the preferences failed to parse and will be replaced by defaults, will be enough to resolve this. Validation is not necessary. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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