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Knots vs CtrlPoint
by Martin Owens 11 Dec '15

11 Dec '15

Developers, I've just been scrutinising the code for guidelines, specifically the code that draws the little circle indicating the main co-ordinate of the guideline. What it looks like is back in 2009 the code src/display/sp-ctrlpoint code was a clone of the much older original code in src/display/sp-ctrlquadr which we've had since at least 2005. ctrlquadr draws a square using cairo, used by ui/tools/text-tool only ctrlpoint draws a circle using cairo, used by display/guideline only If we could replace these two instances with Knot objects, we should be able to remove this code completely? (11.8KB, 1150 lines) Are there any land minds you are aware of with this code? (somewhere it's being used without being able to find it?) For comparison, SPCtrlLine and SPCtrlCurve are used by pen-tool, mesh-tool, gradient-tool, text-tool and the measure-tool. So they're very well used in comparison. Best Regards, Martin Owens

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Lib2Geom: no matching function for call to 'assert_degree'
by Papoj Thamjaroenporn 11 Dec '15

11 Dec '15

Dear Inkscape-devel, I attempted to create a line segment using appendNew with 2 arguments (as suggested in the wiki <http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WorkingWith2GeomFAQ>): line1.appendNew<Geom::LineSegment>(p1.pointAt(0.), p2.pointAt(0.)); but I got the error message: ../../src/2geom/bezier-curve.h:218:7: error: no matching function for call to 'assert_degree' assert_degree<2>(this); ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ../../src/2geom/path.h:740:23: note: in instantiation of member function 'Geom::BezierCurveN<1>::BezierCurveN' requested here do_append(new CurveType(finalPoint(), a, b)); I am not sure why this would be a problem here. The following line creation would work without this error message: line1.start(p1.pointAt(0.)); line1.appendNew<Geom::LineSegment>(p2.pointAt(0.)); which puzzles me because this leads to a call of assert_degree() as well, although the degree check appears to be the expected 1 instead of 2. In fact, is the line segment creation mentioned in the wiki “valid”? It seems to internally call LineSegment(finalPoint(), a, b) which would be interpreted as a quadratic curve. Thank you. Regards, _______________________ Papoj "Hua" Thamjaroenporn papojt@...3117...

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Fwd: [Inkscape-user] LGM 2016: Call for Participation
by C R 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

I'm definitely submitting materials to this from my portfolio (including Inkscape materials). What I'm wondering is, do we have a talk planned for Inkscape? Do we have a booth/information to hand out? Do we want any of these things? I'm local to the London area, so I'm able to help set up anything we'd like to do. At the very least I think we can do: Video presentations w/animation Fliers/cards. In addition to creating these items, I'm willing to foot the bill for things like fliers if we don't have project funds available for it. I can also get volunteers from the local Linux Drinks meetup group that I run to come help. Thoughts? -C ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Femke Snelting <snelting@...2319...> Date: Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:32 PM Subject: [Inkscape-user] LGM 2016: Call for Participation To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net *Libre Graphics Meeting 2016: Other Dimensions* http://libregraphicsmeeting.org The eleventh annual international Libre Graphics Meeting 2016 will take place Friday 15th until Monday 18th April 2016 in London, UK. This yearly event is an occasion for teams and individual contributors/artists involved in Libre Graphics to work together, to share experiences and to hear about new ideas. By Libre Graphics we mean Free, Libre and Open Source tools for design, illustration, photography, typography, art, graphics, page layout, publishing, 3D modelling, digital making and manufacture, cartography, animation, video, interactive media, generative graphics and visual live-coding. The Libre Graphics Meeting is not just about software, but extends to standards, file formats and actual use of these in creative work. LGM has become the place in which they can discuss their projects, coordinate their efforts and, crucially, to meet in person. Participants in the LGM include developers, designers, academics and activists from around the world, who are all passionate about Free/ L ibre graphics software and technology. *State of the Libre Graphics Union* We begin each meeting with a joint session that brings together all things that have happened in our wide landscape over the last year. So, instead of slots in the schedule for general updates on each Libre Graphics software project, we invite every team present at LGM to submit two slides (maximum), with a short explanatory text that showcases the leaps forward that has been made over the past year. For first-time presenters and particular big or new topics/features in established projects, we encourage additional stand-alone submissions. *Special focus: Other Dimensions* In Toronto we celebrated the first decade of LGM, reflecting on the past and considering the future. For the 2016 edition of LGM we continue speculating and will expand Libre Graphics into Other Dimensions. We are looking for presentations and workshops that explore the dimensions of space and material: 3D modelling and animation, Libre architecture, Open Source product design and other fields of digital making and manufacture. We are also seeking contributions that offer reflections on the 'other dimensions' of open source communities and that engage with FLOSS tools in various contexts including but not limited to teaching, learning, practice and co-production. This represents a desire to address the future sustainability of the Libre Graphics movement, through a growth of the core projects and topics that will, we hope, allow us to welcome more and more FLOSS projects and participants to our community. We are looking for: * In-depth presentations of Libre Graphics code-contributions * Showcases of excellent work made using Libre Graphics tools * New and experimental projects in this area to meet the wider community, including those in the field of 3D design and making * Reflections on the activities of existing open source communities in either the production of Free, Libre and Open Source tools or their use Available formats (times include Q&A): * Entry for State of the Libre Graphics Union (1-2 slides) * Presentations (20 minutes) * Workshops (1 or 2 hours)* * Birds Of a Feather (BOF), discussion meetings or Hackathons (2 hrs or more) * Lightning talk (7 minutes, selected at the event unconference style) *Practical Details* Submission deadline: 10 January 2016, content selection notification by end of January 2016. http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2016/call-for-participation/ http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2016/submit-proposal/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. 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node sculpting behavior
by Brynn 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

Hi Friends, When I first started using Inkscape, which was version 0.44, node sculpting had a different behavior than it has now. I want to ask if it would it be possible to provide the previous behavior, as an option, perhaps using key modifier, or option on the control bar? I'll try to describe, with attached screenshot (sculpt2.png). You can see that dragging the right end node, with Alt key results in the nodes wider apart in the middle, and closer together on the ends (no matter whether I dragged from the right or left side, the result is the same). I'm not sure exactly in which version this changed. But previously, dragging the same right end node would result in nodes wider apart, the closer they are to the node being dragged. Since I can't show an example, imagine it's the same right end node, and it would behave much like a rubberband...or elastic string -- stretched more near where the force is applied, and less on the other end. And so the nodes would be progressively closer together, the further they were away from the node being dragged. One thing I used to like to do, was find an end node of a spirogram. Select all nodes except the other end, then Alt + drag the first end, and it would unravel the spirogram from one end to the other. One of the first images I ever made with Inkscape is also attached, the unravelled spirogram. You just can't do that anymore, with Inkscape, afaik. To be honest, I loved that old behavior and used it a lot. I haven't found many uses for the current behavior. I guess it can make a good bell curve. But I think both behaviors are useful. Would it be possible to provide this optionally? If so, I'd like to make that a feature request. (Unless it already is??) Thank you very much, brynn

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The unit of stroke width in Inkscape UI, and 'px' unit
by Papoj Thamjaroenporn 05 Dec '15

05 Dec '15

Dear inkscape-devel, Quick question: what is the unit of the stroke width in the Inkscape UI? I am talking about this seemingly unit-less number: When looking at StrokeStyle, it seems to match ‘px’ (SVG user unit). If this is indeed a 2 px width, shouldn’t we add the unit after the number like showing units after W, H, X, Y to make everything clearer in the UI? Regards, _______________________ Papoj "Hua" Thamjaroenporn papojt@...3117...

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Brand new crash with text blocks
by Ivan Louette 04 Dec '15

04 Dec '15

Hi ! I lack of time to fill a bug because I must leave now (otherwise I will do it in the evening). With the last yesterday trunk Inkscape crashes if I try to change the font size to a bigger one which exceeds the size of the text block. For example in attached file. I use this kind of feature daily and never had this crash before yesterday. ivan On Kubuntu 14.04 64 bits

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] batch able to ungroup PDF objects and change colors from RGB into CMYK with lookuptable
by Maxence MELIN 03 Dec '15

03 Dec '15

Nobody has any idea (or existing scripts to share) to begin the script I need ? De : Maxence MELIN Envoyé : mercredi 2 décembre 2015 10:16 À : 'inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net' Objet : batch able to ungroup PDF objects and change colors from RGB into CMYK with lookuptable Hi ! I am a beginner with Inkscape but I know it's very powerful ! I have a RGB PDF file with grouped objects and I want to develop a script that : - is able to process several PDF files (e.g. all PDF in a folder) - ungroup the objects of each PDF file - convert RGB PDF to CMYK PDF using a txt lookup table where I can set myself the values (I don't use a lot of colors but I have to get precise CMYK values) I have no idea how to begin such a script, somebody can help to get me started ? Thanks ! Max

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Extended xml editor
by A Sedlak 02 Dec '15

02 Dec '15

Does anyone know how to implement extended xml tag editor in inkscape? Before several years I wrote system for embroidery pattern generator from svg based on private xml tags, but simple XML editor included in inkscape makes it cumbersome. Some very basic functionality of this stitch generator can be seen at: https://youtu.be/VKle5ApsMnA Editor should have functionality very similar to interface of external scripts but before showing dialog, it should first collect actual data from svg by calling proper extension script method (eg .getparams() ) and prepare file similar to inkscape dialog definition file.inx with <param name= ... > and then dynamically generate dialog to allow user modify sewing parameters, after that call classical extension .effect() method to do changes in svg. I want to implement it but I'm totally lost in inkscape source code. I think that all functionality is already somewhere in inkscape but I need someone to show me the way. Tony

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Next Inkscape board meeting.
by Tavmjong Bah 02 Dec '15

02 Dec '15

Hi all, The next Inkscape board meeting is schedule for December 4th at 20:00 UTC/Noon PST/21:00 CEST: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=12&day=4&yea r=2015&hour=20&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 All member of the Inkscape community are welcome to participate. We meet on the #inkscape-devel IRC channel on Freenode. For more details see: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings Tav

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Lock guides branch
by Jabier Arraiza 02 Dec '15

02 Dec '15

Hi to all. I just propose to merge the lock guides branch. ¿Any one want review it? https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/lock_guides This allow to lock a guide in the guide dialog. This is part of a future work using gides. In my mind I want to link optionaly a guide to a item or maybe more than one. If this guide is linked, only show if the element/s is selected. Any one think is a bad idea because it add a extra level of complexity on guide usage to the benefits it have? Anyway is not a blocking thing to my proyect but it benefits a lot of it. If any one is interested in the secret proyect, is a LPE applied to groups, this lpe lock for the crossing guides and slice the content of the group into sliced subgroups. Cheers, Jabier.

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Potrace
by Jabier Arraiza 02 Dec '15

02 Dec '15

Hi to all!!! I notice in Debian stretch no trace bitmap option showed in the menu if Potrace aren't instaled. ¿Maybe is beter show it always, and if selected, fire a warning message? Cheers, Jabier.

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batch able to ungroup PDF objects and change colors from RGB into CMYK with lookuptable
by Maxence MELIN 02 Dec '15

02 Dec '15

Hi ! I am a beginner with Inkscape but I know it's very powerful ! I have a RGB PDF file with grouped objects and I want to develop a script that : - is able to process several PDF files (e.g. all PDF in a folder) - ungroup the objects of each PDF file - convert RGB PDF to CMYK PDF using a txt lookup table where I can set myself the values (I don't use a lot of colors but I have to get precise CMYK values) I have no idea how to begin such a script, somebody can help to get me started ? Thanks ! Max

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Feature proposal to src/extension/internal/grid.cpp
by Timo Korthals 01 Dec '15

01 Dec '15

Dear devs, because of the lack of the feature, that gids can be created just in px-units, I patched (from my pov) a nice feature into "src/extension/internal/grid.cpp". My question regarding this feature on stackexchange [1] has some pretty high interest. You'll find the patch attached to this e-mail and a brief documentation to this feature here [2]. Would be nice to see something like this (or similar) in the near feature. Greetings, Timo [1] http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/21611/drawing-grid-in-inks… [2] http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/a/63799/15720 -- Timo Korthals, M.Sc. Universität Bielefeld AG Kognitronik & Sensorik Exzellenzcluster Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC) Inspiration 1 (Zehlendorfer Damm 199) 33619 Bielefeld - Germany Office : 3.037 Phone : +49 521 106-67368 eMail : tkorthals@...3296... Internet: http://www.ks.cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de/

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Offset LPE
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

Hi to all. This is a mail about the "new" LPE offset I made with the help of the previous work of Liam P. White. in Join Type LPE and the Krzysztof Kosiński on new boolops code. The video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfzvXD9jrAk This code is slow than previous (non lpe) with Livarot, I try to improve it but is slower. By the other side it bring to the user the ability to use non rounded join types on increment offseting. Any way I couldent full remove Livarot from the code want, is using to hadle nonzero fills and for simplify the paths. Not sure about the LPE, I spend a lot of effort improving it, but i couldent get it like Livarot one and think is a blocking problem to substitute SPOffset code like Mc- want, but maybe can be a first step to other dev... Another way can redone or mix it with Libarot but maybe is a back step. But if is not a problem, and while getting better result, we can do a LPE to offset like SPOffet do, allowing to remove SPOffset from the code. Also I hope could make join types diferent than rounded except extrapolated arc :(. Cheers, Jabier.

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New Potrace dependency
by Alex Valavanis 29 Nov '15

29 Nov '15

Hi All, Any objections if I go ahead with this merge? https://code.launchpad.net/~valavanisalex/inkscape/fix-1156664 It will introduce a soft dependency on an external copy of libpotrace. It will still build without the external library, but without the trace bitmap/flood tools. Windows Devlibs will need to be updated separately. Cheers, AV

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Problem with paths
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

Hi to all. Working with a function that split into subpaths all self crossings of a path, I throw a LPE exception in path.portion I call it with a value for example "path.portion(0,2.9345)" and path size == 4. I think I dont get any continuity problems when creating a portion, anyway it happends, also if active setStitching to the path Here are the function: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/7011 I comment in the code where the exception happens "std::cout << "EXCEPTON HERE\n";" Next logs to this line don't show if exception. Any help is welcome, cheers, Jabier.

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Artivity patch for Inkscape
by Sebastian Faubel 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

Hello everybody, a few months ago I contacted you the project we're currently doing with the University of the Arts, London. Our 'Artivity' project aims to produce an open source activity tracking platform similar to Zeitgeist. However, we do not only capture high level events such as 'created file' or 'visited website' but also store provenance data about how a document was created and which resources were used in the process. We don't have an official website yet, but if you're interested: here's our repository [0] and a recent article about the current state of the art [1]. The project is still in a rather early stage, but the platform has matured to a point where we think it's worth spreading the word. I asked if it was possible to write extensions for Inkscape in C++. Since this does not seem to be possible at the moment, I want to ask you if you accept a patch to integrate our Artivity extension upstream. I appended a patch file to this e-mail. Please have a look at it and tell us what we have to change in order for you to accept it. The patch is done against the current release tarball of Inkscape (v0.91). You can apply the patch by unpacking the tarball in a directory and the following command: patch -p0 < inkscape-0.91-1artivity0.patch Our 'extension' is only compiled when Inkscape is configured with the option '--enable-artivity'. So the build should behave as normal when configured without this option. If you want to build the extension you will need libartivity [2] installed on your system. The only dependency for building the library is libcurl. So you'll need to install the libcurl development headers. Everything else should be pretty straight forward. I'd really love to have the Artivity extension to be a dynamically loaded plugin. If there's any progress on defining a plugin API for native C++ extensions I'll volunteer in implementing it. I am looking forward to your comments. With best regards, Sebastian [0] https://bitbucket.org/semiodesk/artivity [1] http://www.semiodesk.com/2015/11/23/artivity-available-windows-mac/ [2] https://bitbucket.org/semiodesk/artivity/downloads/libartivity-0.8.10.tar.gz *Semiodesk GmbH | *Werner-von-Siemens-Str. 6 Geb. 15k, 86159 Augsburg, Germany | Phone: +49 821 8854401 | Fax: +49 821 8854410 | www.semiodesk.com This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by e-mail is deemed to have accepted these risks. Semiodesk GmbH is not responsible for errors or omissions in this message and denies any responsibility for any damage arising from the use of e-mail. Any opinion and other statement contained in this message and any attachment are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company.

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User account for Inkscape Wiki
by Eduard Braun 26 Nov '15

26 Nov '15

Hi all, I'd like to request a user account for http://wiki.inkscape.org/ I noticed documentation on INX parameters <http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/INX_Parameters> is quite outdated and I want to update it. Best Regards, Eduard

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Inkscape's software design
by Jorge Lopez 26 Nov '15

26 Nov '15

Hello, I'm studying a Master Degree in Computer Engineering and we have to make an article about an Open Source program (Inkscape in my case). In this article we are suposed to interview some developers in order to know more about software design in the project they are working on, so I'm looking for some people willing to answer some simple questions about software design on Inkscape's development. If you are interested, please contact me ( jorgeludc@...400... ). Thanks in advance!

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Fwd: Save in JPG files
by Bruno de Campos 23 Nov '15

23 Nov '15

Hi, I'm using Inkscape and I realize that the program does not save in .jpg format. This is kinda disappointing because I have to open another program to save my file in a proper format. Do you have any tips or extensions or any updates that I could use to save in jpg format? PS.: I'm using Version 0.91 Thanks in advance for your attention, -- Bruno de Campos

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Offset LPE
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 21 Nov '15

21 Nov '15

Hi to all, working on offset LPE by "accident" y discover the way to remove ovelaps, so the code on evenodd mode is ok. Now I need to handle correcly nonzero cases and make some tweaks to the knot handler. Krzysztof, Liam sorry for the noise and thanks for your works! Cheers, Jabier.

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LPE: Use sigc++ from PathParam to modify another Param
by Papoj Thamjaroenporn 21 Nov '15

21 Nov '15

Dear Inkscape-devel, I would like to find a way to trigger a change from PathParam and change another Param in the same LPE effect. What is the correct way of doing this? What I have attempted: I noticed that PathParam already provides a bunch of useful signals, like signal_path_pasted (when a new path has been pasted in placed of the existing path in PathParam). So I just set up in my LPE effect like: myPathParam.signal_path_pasted.connect( sigc::mem_fun(*this, &LPEWrinkleStretch::triggerAChangeInPeakPointArrayParam) ); And in my own method, I just modify another WrDmPeakPointArrayParam with set_and_write_new_value(). Nothing fancy here. Although I have made sure that the change happened and the resulting change was what I expected, this notification-callback approach seems to break the LPE entirely: now interacting with anything in the effect afterward (moving other unrelated handles, changing values, etc) will not update the LPE at all, although the doEffect() method is still called constantly. So obviously, I am doing something wrong here. I have noticed that there is another effect, lpe-bspline, that makes use of the callback mechanism to update the effect. I understood the basic mechanism: you process path effects normally, create a result in SVG format in text, save that text onto the internal XML “Repr” directly, and then you provide some sort of save state for undoing. However, I am not sure how to do this for another Param (not the resulting path from the LPE effect). Do I write my own version of saving such param into the internal XML tree directly? I don’t really have a new widget, but an update should be triggered after clicking on “Paste path” button in PathParam, so do I have to override newWidget() method? Can someone also explain to me how DocumentUndo::done() works (what the variables are)? Thank you for always being supportive and helpful. Regards, _______________________ Papoj "Hua" Thamjaroenporn papoj@...3117...

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TSL errors for LP
by Brynn 20 Nov '15

20 Nov '15

Hi Friends, I'm having trouble connecting to Launchpad today. (1 success out of 8 tries :-( ) The error says "Secure Connection Failed" with option to report it to Mozilla. Info: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tls-error-reports "If you experience this problem, contact the owners of the website and ask them to update their TLS version to a version that is still current and still secure." Has this already been reported to LP? If not, how can I do that? There doesn't appear to be any way to allow the connection to go through anyway, but I'm still investigating. Maybe have to use IE? Thanks for your help :-) brynn

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Union PathVector
by Jabier Arraiza 20 Nov '15

20 Nov '15

Hi to all. I want to make a pathvector joined with itself like Inkscape do whith only a path selected, with subpats and in non-zero fill rule. I look to Krzysztof code with boolops but it handle it with diferent pathvectors, not with the same. If anybody can point me on a direction, his help are welcome. All the best, Jabier.

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Offset LPE
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 18 Nov '15

18 Nov '15

Hi to all. I just finish a LPE called "Offset" based on Liam and Krzysztof work. The branch give better results than actual offset LPE, more similar to Liam JoinType LPE than a Offset one. Anyway, the LPE could be improved working on Geom/PathStroke and Krzysztof boolops code. As a fast improvements things to do: Boolops: Commented in previous mail, I have problems with fill-rule options on AminusB function. Also if we can handle overlaping curves, I could simplify the LPE. PathStroke: Handle strange results specialy on very big width of stroke Tavmjong, you remember our conversation about extrapolated arcs in Toronto? ¿Need a refresh? ¿Could you explain to Liam in a math point of view, to know if he want to make the proposal for the SVG working group? lp:~inkscape.dev/inkscape/offset All the best, Jabier.

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Vertical text & 'text-orientation'
by Tavmjong Bah 18 Nov '15

18 Nov '15

Hi, I've implemented the CSS 3 'text-orientation' property which controls how glyphs are rendered in vertical text. This property replaces the 'glyph-orientation-vertical' property which Inkscape never implemented and is deprecated in SVG 2. While doing this work I also corrected some other layout issues with vertical text and with multi-line text. As this work is rather invasive I've pushed my changes to a new branch which can be checked out via: bzr branch lp:~inkscape.dev/inkscape/writing_modes Please test this branch! Here is a list of the most important changes: * Latin characters in vertical text will be drawn by default sideways. This is the default direction in both SVG 1.1 and in CSS 3 Writing Modes. Currently Inkscape draws the glyphs upright. * Punctuation characters in CJK vertical text will be orientated correctly. * The Text Toolbar can be used to set 'text-orientation' which controls how characters are orientated in vertical text (it has no effect on horizontal text). The three choices are 'mixed' where the glyphs are drawn in their Unicode defined natural orientation, 'upright' where all glyphs are drawn upright, and 'sideways' where all glyphs are drawn sideways. * The new CSS 3 values for 'writing-mode' will be recognized. The values written out are still the SVG 1.1 values except for the new 'vertical-lr' value which has no equivalent SVG 1.1 value (and is required for Mongolian). A new button appears on the Text Toolbar to select this value. (The SVG 1.1 values are deprecated but must still be recognized by SVG renderers.) * Fonts without vertical metrics will have a vertical advance of 1em. The CSS specification explicitly does not define what advance to use but the SVG 1.1 spec suggests 1em and the W3C Japanese text document specified an advance of 1em. * In laying out multi-line text, any 'leading' value from the font is ignored. CSS dictates that the font-size corresponds to the em height of a font which is defined as 'ascent' + 'descent'. The change to ignore the "internal" font 'leading' may make small visual changes in how multi-line text appears. * In flowed text, Inkscape has been using a "scaled" value of 'ascent' to position the first line. This has been changed to follow the correct CSS prescription of using the value of 'half-leading' + normal 'ascent' for horizontal text (to find the alphabetic baseline) and 'half -leading' + half em width for vertical text (to find the center baseline). (The 'leading' in this case is the extra space needed between lines as dictated by the 'line-height' property. It is not the 'internal' font 'leading'.) Tav

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Offset LPE
by Jabier Arraiza 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

Hi to all. Im on Offset LPE using Liam and Krzysztof work. I have two questions, First: Using "PathIntersectionGraph" to make boolean operation "getAminusB", givea unwanted result, to me, maybe because fillrule work as evenodd. I remember read in list the fill rule work is not ended on new boolops, I'm wrong Krzysztof? Second: If I'm brong with first, I need to try "manual" erase the unwanted data, for example in the middle of a infinite sign path. To do this I run the function: "self_crossings" but this function give me points not self crossed in the path, also, give me, for each real crossing, one of the times not the two that have a self crossing. Maybe Im wrong in th concept of selfcrosing... Thanks in advance for the help, all the best, Jabier.

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How to make extension that is called on every edit of the document ?
by Stuart Axon 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

Hi, I'd like to make an extension that keeps track of changes (and can also make changes from external sources) in a drawing - is there a way to get a call every time an edit happens ? (I guess ideally the callback would include information about what was changed). S++

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swiss publishing days 2015 in Bern: slides, including those from Libre Graphics talks, available for download
by "Christoph Schäfer" 15 Nov '15

15 Nov '15

Hi all, The slides of the talks during the "swiss publishing days 2015" in Bern are now online: http://swiss-publishing-week.ch/winterthur_n.php?t=Teilnehmer-Seite&read_gr… The most interesting talk with respect to Libre Graphics, was the one by Beat Kipfer (http://swiss-publishing-week.ch/dynpg/upload/imgfile1855.pdf) on Scribus, GIMP and Inkscape. He erred in several aspects, as those who can read German will certainly discover, but I was there and corrected the errors on the spot. Most importantly, though, Beat praised all three projects for their reliability and their longevity. According to Beat, they are worthy competitors to Adobe CC. It was also remarkable that one participant stood up during the Q&A session, and said (in German, of course): "I'm still an Adobe customer, but I'm about to leave the company's products, because their priority seems to be to find ways to suck their customers dry without even bothering to fix existing bugs. We should applaud and support the efforts of the Open Source community, because without them, there wouldn't be any competetion at all". The audience reacted with a long applause (and if you know the Swiss, this was a truly amazing reaction). The slides of the presentation by Holger Everding (FreeColour) and I on the advantages of a vendor-neutral and CIELAB-based colour standard are also there: http://swiss-publishing-week.ch/dynpg/upload/imgfile1973.pdf, as are the slides of my talk on open file formats (http://swiss-publishing-week.ch/dynpg/upload/imgfile1858.pdf). Please don't bother downloading the latter, because I only used the slides as a visual introduction to what I said and demonstrated with real files (e.g. showing the content of an ORA file in Ark). Christoph

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couple of patches in need of testing: window icon, and auto font-refresh
by insaner 14 Nov '15

14 Nov '15

Hi all, I have a couple of patches I would like some testing done on, especially if you are a non-linux user (I can only do linux testing here) and/or a dev that can tell me any issues with the code that I am not seeing. window/task bar icon missing when installed in non-standard location https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1516238 font dialog doesn't refresh to show newly installed fonts https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/168960 The patch to be tested for the font-refresh bug is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/168960/comments/9 And if you can tell me how to get the fontlist to refresh in a non-linux (fontconfig) system, that would help me fix that issue for others too. -- View this message in context: http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/couple-of-patches-in-need-of-testing-windo… Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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SPKnot, KnotHolderEntity, and KnotHolder
by Papoj Thamjaroenporn 12 Nov '15

12 Nov '15

Dear Inkscape-devel, Can someone explain to me the relationships between SPKnot, KnotHolderEntity, and KnotHolder? The code seems a bit confusing to me in terms of how they are related to each other. What I have collected so far: SPKnot is a like a UI element. It has properties like style and color and signals when events are triggered. KnotHolderEntity is like the manager of SPKnot, allocating and storing pointer to SPKnot to allow SPKnot object to outlive the scope of the entity. It also manages connections between signals that SPKnot emits and receivers for those signals. KnotHolder aggregates KnotHolderEntity, with a few functions that iterate through the list of these entities to do certain things like handling events and knot update by calling methods that have been implemented in SPKnot already. My questions are: Why is SPKnot named with the SP prefix? From SPObject documentation, all SPObject is supposed to be representable as a node in SVG. There is no notion of “knot” in SVG 2 as far as I know, and the class didn't even inherit SPObject. In terms of Model-View-Controller design pattern, I see SPKnot as the Model and KnotHolderEntity as the Controller, handling the Model creation and events handling. But instead, event handling resides partly in SPKnot itself and partly in KnotHolder, which confuses me in terms of the design of these classes. Is the main purpose of KnotHolder really just for aggregating KnotHolderEntity in a list? I might be missing something, but I don’t see why we can’t move handler methods all into KnotHolderEntity, following MVP pattern. Knot events are handled individually after all. What are these PatternKnotHolderEntityXY / Angle / Scale? They seem to do something specific to patterns but instead of seeing their implementations in their own classes, I see declarations and methods about them implemented in KnotHolder and KnotHolderEntity instead. Can we factor these out somewhere, like how LPETangentToCurve defines their own KnotHolderEntities in their own source file? Overall, I’m skeptical most about the implementation of KnotHolder. It can be much simpler — just an aggregator of KnotHolderEntities. Right now, it seems to have unrelated functionalities that obscure the purpose of the class. I’d love any additional documentation about this if anyone can point me to it. I don’t see much on the generated Doxygen doc and in the source files. Thank you. Regards, _______________________ Papoj "Hua" Thamjaroenporn papoj@...3117... <mailto:papoj@...3117...>

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Spary tool and transparent area ?
by Ivan Louette 10 Nov '15

10 Nov '15

Is there a way to spray only over transparent area ? (i. e. inverting "Spray only over non transparent area") ivan

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Any Inkscape gurus here got any game / animation experience?
by Philip Rhoades 09 Nov '15

09 Nov '15

People, I am going to develop an Open Source interactive game for designing the neural architecture of a VERY simple alien organism - for research purposes. I am thinking that Inkscape is a sort of (more complicated) version of the interface that that would be required. During the game, after a bit of design, the alien organism should animate to some extent (depending how good the design is) because of the nerves interacting with the muscles and other cell organelles - which all correspond to SVG objects - is this a sensible method of proceeding? Thanks, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: phil@...1587...

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Board Meeting @ Friday Oct 2nd, 2015
by Bryce Harrington 09 Nov '15

09 Nov '15

Hi all, We'll be holding an Inkscape Committee meeting this Friday the 2nd of October, on #inkscape-devel, at 1900 UTC (Noon PDT / 9pm CEST) http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings All in the Inkscape community are welcome to attend. Our agenda is open for any new business. Thanks, Bryce ----- Forwarded message from Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...8...> ----- Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:28:13 +0200 From: Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...8...> To: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...>, inkscape-board(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-board] Proposal for board meeting An IRC meeting is an excellent idea. Any day at noon PDT (9 PM CEST) is OK with me. Thursdays I have an SVG WG meeting at 1:30 PM PDT (10:30 CEST). My agenda items would be: C++11 Hackfest 2016 Paid development Tav On Sun, 2015-09-27 at 12:20 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote: > Hi guys, > > Now that our board is re-manned, I'm thinking it'd make sense to call > a > meeting on IRC. I don't have anything major to discuss myself, but > I'll bet the rest of you have some good ideas to float. > > How does some time first week of October sound? Thursday Oct 1st? > Or > would the weekend be better? I seem to recall that before we met at > noon pacific time; would such a time be impossible for anyone? > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings > > As far as agenda goes, I don't have anything to suggest - this past > year > we've accomplished so much! I figure we can just play it by ear, and > leave the agenda to "opens". > > Bryce > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-board mailing list > Inkscape-board(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board ----- End forwarded message -----

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Measure and Spray tool
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 08 Nov '15

08 Nov '15

Hi to all, the spray tool and measure tool improvements are now in trunk, thanks to Nathan Hurst and Mc- for the fast reviews and to all people involved on it. Bug report it! Regards, Jabier. https://www.youtube.com/user/jabiertxof/videos

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Screen tearing on Inkscape (OS X)
by Papoj Thamjaroenporn 08 Nov '15

08 Nov '15

Dear Inkscape-devel, I recently picked up Inkscape again, and there is this screen tearing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing> issue I have seen on OS X, and I am wondering what the causes are and how I may be able to contribute. As far as I understand, screen tearing seems to be an issue specific to GTK2. This happens when I scroll or zoom the canvas, where screen refresh rate is not synced with canvas rendering. This happens either on X-based version (I tried using the official Inkscape app) or Quartz-based version (I tried by compiling the trunk using Quartz variants). I also found that ~suv has this exciting development on native OS X integration with GTK3. The artifacts I have seen are exactly like in this screen recording <https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/4556/> of Inkscape with GTK2 that ~suv posted. So, am I correct to say that GTK3 somehow eliminates this problem, even without native OS X integration? How does it do so? If we stay with GTK2 as of now, is there a way to fix the tearing issue? Regards, _______________________ Papoj "Hua" Thamjaroenporn papoj@...3117...

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Board Meeting @ Friday Nov 6th, 2015
by Bryce Harrington 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Reminder that the meeting is tomorrow at Noon Pacific time. Check your times since daylight savings is in effect. Last month's meeting log is posted here for reference: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/6701/ Bryce On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 08:27:15PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote: > Hi all, > > Last month's meeting went well, and we decided to have another in early > November at a similar time and place. > > We'll be holding an Inkscape Committee meeting on Friday the 6th of > November, on #inkscape-devel, at 1900 UTC (Noon PDT / 9pm CEST) > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings > > Agenda is: > > * Code of Conduct & Privacy Policy > * Funded development > * GSoC 2016 > * Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement (FSA) > * Hackfest 2016 > * Budget 2016 > * Other business > > Bryce > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Notifying users of nonfatal errors, general interface?
by mathog 05 Nov '15

05 Nov '15

Hi, All, I posted about this back on 2015-03-26 with the title Example of Inkscape handling corrupt input file but there were apparently no responses. So once again, is there an interface in Inkscape where code can push a message for a nonfatal event such that: 1. In GUI usage - a pop up appears with the message. 2. Command line/filter usage - message is sent to stderr Usage example: SVG -> EMF export cannot handle opacity because the output format does not support it. The code currently just drops the opacity property which of course results in output visually different from the original (although all the same elements are there). End users keep tripping over this, example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1513262 So I would like a warning message to appear. Ideally this would show up in the code as something really simple like this: if(errors_found){ inkscape_display_message(my_message): } and then this function/method would go on and never has to do anything else related to that message. If there is already a function/method corresponding to "inkscape_display_message", what is it called? Thanks, David Mathog mathog@...1176... Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech

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Suppressing specific Unknown Attribute '__alloc_size__' warnings
by Papoj Thamjaroenporn 05 Nov '15

05 Nov '15

Dear Inkscape-devel, I became tired of seeing these same warning messages over and over again whenever I compile and debug the code: /opt/local/include/gc/gc.h:804:23: warning: unknown attribute '__alloc_size__' ignored [-Wunknown-attributes] GC_API GC_ATTR_MALLOC GC_ATTR_ALLOC_SIZE(1) void * GC_CALL For the record, I compile Inkscape 0.91(trunk) with XQuartz backend using latest clang from Xcode. Someone also has seen <https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/256081> this before (I’m glad the instructions I posted on the mailing list a year earlier were useful :-)), and the thing about warnings was ignored because the issue there was about getting the code to run. It seems that clang has removed alloc_size attribute <https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/429> a while ago. But these warnings would pop up about gazillion times per compiling session, from gc.h, so I am wondering if I can suppress this warning specifically. I’m not familiar with how to add a suppression in autoconf. Do I just do the following in configure step? ../trunk/configure --prefix=YOUR_BUILD_DIRECTORY --disable-static --enable-shared CC="clang" CXX="clang++" CXXFLAGS="-std=c++11 -stdlib=libc++ -I/opt/local/include -Wno-unknown-attributes" CPPFLAGS="-I/opt/local/include -U__STRICT_ANSI__ -Wno-unknown-attributes" If I re-configure the build, do I have to run "make install" again before "make -j 4"? I’m also not sure if globally suppressing this kind of warning is recommended. I have not seen this kind of warning other than this, and I couldn’t even find its definition on the official Clang documentation <http://clang.llvm.org/docs/UsersManual.html>. If this is not recommended, does anyone know how I can specifically suppress this particular warning? Regards, _______________________ Papoj "Hua" Thamjaroenporn papoj@...3117...

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Absolute path to image
by my369 04 Nov '15

04 Nov '15

Hello. I have noticed sucha feature in inkscape, every time I press the "Extract Image.." path for all images will change to absolute. It's either something I do not know, or it is a bug.

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question about nodes display
by Brynn 02 Nov '15

02 Nov '15

Hi Friends, I sent this message earlier, but the attachment has apparently put it over the size limit. So it's waiting for a moderator, for now. But perhaps could be answered without the PNG. So just in case, here's the message, and if the screenshot is needed, I'll try to figure some way to send it. Original message below: This is something I noticed a long, long time ago, and never really questioned. But now I'm writing a tutorial about node editing, and it seems a good time to find out. When more than 1 node are all stacked up, precisely on top of each other -- if it's an even number of nodes, then they appear to be smaller than a regular node. (see in the top aqua circle in the attached ne12.png) It's what you see if you use "Break path at selected nodes". But if there are an odd number of nodes all stacked up, it looks just like a regular node. So there's no visible clue -- you only know how many nodes might be there, if you happen to select them (by dragging a selection box around), or if you already know, or happen to remember what's there. I'm curious why it's made that way, and whether it might be helpful if any number of stacked up nodes can look like the even number of stacked up nodes (just a smaller node). Well, I would find it helpful anyway, and wonder if others might as well. I'd appreciate if anyone can explain. Thank you very much, brynn

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question about nodes display
by Brynn 01 Nov '15

01 Nov '15

Hi Friends, This is something I noticed a long, long time ago, and never really questioned. But now I'm writing a tutorial about node editing, and it seems a good time to find out. When more than 1 node are all stacked up, precisely on top of each other -- if it's an even number of nodes, then they appear to be smaller than a regular node. (see in the top aqua circle in the attached ne12.png) It's what you see if you use "Break path at selected nodes". But if there are an odd number of nodes all stacked up, it looks just like a regular node. So there's no visible clue -- you only know how many nodes might be there, if you happen to select them (by dragging a selection box around), or if you already know, or happen to remember what's there. I'm curious why it's made that way, and whether it might be helpful if any number of stacked up nodes can look like the even number of stacked up nodes (just a smaller node). Well, I would find it helpful anyway, and wonder if others might as well. I'd appreciate if anyone can explain. Thank you very much, brynn

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Spray Tool V
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 01 Nov '15

01 Nov '15

Hi again, another video to the list. Sorry for the multiple steps, but my initial objetive increase in each video. Next time I try to reduce the number of videos to one or maybe 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn3vzf-yA_w Whith this improvement, now the Spray tool get the trace dialog options if in "pick" mode. Cheers, Jabier.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Spray Tool Improvements III
by Jabier Arraiza 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

Hi Ivan, put reply on list. First one is not posibol to put them "exactly" because is based on a random algoritm of the tool. Second one: Great idea!!! I try to implement. Thanks for the feedback! El jue, 29-10-2015 a las 12:15 +0100, ivan louette escribió: > Then what do you think of the two following ideas : > > 1° spraying exactly contiguous squares or quadranglesto simulate > bitmaps ? > > 2° spraying objects which increase or decrease in size based on the > darkness or lightness of the background colors ? > > Le 29/10/15 11:23, Jabier Arraiza a écrit : > > Yes Ivan!!! > > > > El jue, 29-10-2015 a las 09:14 +0100, ivan louette escribió: > > > Can you spray over a bitmap image and acquire its colors like > > > this is > > > possible with clones ? > > > > > > Le 28/10/15 21:10, Jabier Arraiza a écrit : > > > > Thanks Ivan, this allow a lot of posibilities, because the > > > > color > > > > that > > > > change is only the fill, the stroke retains original color, so > > > > you > > > > can > > > > do things like this: > > > > http://i.imgur.com/wn7n95Z.png?1 > > > > > > > > Regards, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > El mié, 28-10-2015 a las 20:53 +0100, ivan louette escribió: > > > > > Amazing ! I easily imaginate it combinated with some svg > > > > > filter > > > > > to > > > > > simulate organic cellular textures ! > > > > > > > > > > ivan > > > > > > > > > > Le 28/10/15 19:31, Jabier Arraiza a écrit : > > > > > > Hi again, my last video about new features to the spray > > > > > > tool: > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTdKu7mAZE8 > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Gabriel Grosso for the idea and to Mc for his > > > > > > help on > > > > > > review. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Jabier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ---- > > > > > ---- > > > > > ----------- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape-devel Digest, Vol 113, Issue 19
by Jelle 30 Oct '15

30 Oct '15

Great work guys! The spray tool improvements make it a lot more useful, but the text improvements are a bit of a breakthrough. Thanks for all the great effort. > 1. New branch SprayTool Improvements > 9. Vertical text & 'text-orientation' Cheers, Jelle

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Recent changes that would result in object reordering???
by mathog 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

I fixed a bug today and found that the emf round trip test no longer worked. (This has nothing to do with the bug I was working on, which just changed a couple of scale factors related to dashed lines.) The round trip test works like this (sorry about the wrap): $INK --file=/usr/local/src/libUEMF/dist/test_libuemf_ref.emf --export-emf=/tmp/test1.emf $INK --file=/tmp/test1.emf --export-emf=/tmp/test2.emf $INK --file=/tmp/test2.emf --export-emf=/tmp/test3.emf $READEMF /tmp/test1.emf > /tmp/test1_emf.txt $READEMF /tmp/test2.emf > /tmp/test2_emf.txt $READEMF /tmp/test3.emf > /tmp/test3_emf.txt afterwards "diff" of any of pair of the test*_emf.txt pairs would show only the one line associated with the name change. Not anymore though. Now they differ from each other a lot. When the emf files produced are viewed in inkscape they appear to be the same. However, the text dumps of the EMF files are wildly different, apparently because the object order is no longer the same. That is, the input stage is seeing the objects in one order, and the output stage is seeing them in another. The reordering seems to be repeatable, that is, if test1.emf is loaded and saved as test9.emf, then the text dump of that is the same as test2.emf (other than the file name field.) The same test with WMF is still stable, but that is a much, much simpler and smaller test file. What has changed in Inkscape that would be causing this? Thanks, David Mathog mathog@...1176... Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech

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Code of Conduct review
by Krzysztof Kosiński 29 Oct '15

29 Oct '15

Hello I think the CoC can be considerably improved. I think it's too wordy in a few places. Here is my proposed revised text. Inkscape online communities are intended to be a friendly, inclusive spaces for users to collaborate on the further development of Inkscape, share and discuss their creations, inspire each other and interact in constructive ways. To that end, we have established a set of guidelines that we believe will help foster such an environment. Anyone willing to follow these guidelines is welcome. In your interactions with others, please do your best to: - Be respectful. There's always a human very much like you at the other end. Always treat them respectfully and be kind to them, even if you disagree with them. - Be responsible. Everyone makes mistakes from time to time; own up to them and be willing to work on fixing them. If someone has been harmed or offended, listen carefully and work to right the wrong. - Don't take criticism personally. Remember that criticizing an idea (e.g. a technical proposal or an user interface blueprint) is different from criticizing the person that proposed it. Do not become overly attached to your contributions and do not demand preferential treatment for them because of your standing in the community. Ideas should stand on the merit of their supporting arguments, not on the merit of their originators. - Use neutral language. Avoid words that others are likely to find offensive or excluding. - Forgive. If someone wronged you and apologized, do not keep demanding special punishment. Don't hold a grudge or seek to settle scores. Be willing to let things slide if it benefits the community. - Give credit where it is due. Never try to pass off others' work as your own. - Disclose and address conflicts of interest. You should be aware when you are conflicted due to employment or other projects you are involved in, and abstain or delegate decisions that may be seen to be self-interested. When in doubt, ask for a second opinion. - Step down considerately. When you leave a responsible position in the Inkscape project, do so in a way that minimizes disruption to the community. Tell people you are leaving and take the proper steps to ensure that others can pick up where you left off. The following actions and behaviours are deemed unacceptable: - Harassment of other users, including but not limited to threats of any kind, insults, discriminatory language and jokes, unwelcome sexual attention, posting personally identifying information ("doxing"). - Deliberate disruption: trolling, spamming, flaming, baiting, attention seeking, distribution of malware, any kind of attacks against Inkscape computing infrastructure or that of its parent organizations. - Distribution of illegal or pornographic material in Inkscape communities. - Advocating or encouraging any of the above. If you believe a member of an Inkscape community is in breach of the above code, report it to the appropriate moderators (contact info here), even if you are not among the directly affected parties. Violations of the code can be met with disciplinary action, ranging from a private warning to complete, permanent expulsion. If you feel you have been unfairly accused or penalised, you may contact Inkscape's board (link to governance section here). Decisions of the board are final. Summary of changes: I removed some text that I felt was repetitive and split the code into 2 sections with desirable and undesirable behaviors. I also added 2 points: "Forgive" and "Give credit where it is due", which I think are pretty important, and a paragraph at the end about disciplinary action. Best regards, Krzysztof

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Spray Tool Improvements III
by Jabier Arraiza 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

Hi again, my last video about new features to the spray tool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTdKu7mAZE8 Thanks to Gabriel Grosso for the idea and to Mc for his help on review. Cheers, Jabier.

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Spray Tool II
by Jabier Arraiza 27 Oct '15

27 Oct '15

Thanks to Gabriel Grosso idea I just add a new feature to the no overlap branch. Here are a short video working. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eTG2U3qlb4 All the best, Jabier.

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/usr/share/inkscape/extensions/interp.py
by Philip Rhoades 26 Oct '15

26 Oct '15

People, I didn't get a response from anyone on the user list about the question hereunder so the next Q is: Is it possible to modify interp.py so that it can write the interpolated paths to a text file so that I can create the separate, individual SVGs with my own script? I don't know Python and it would take me forever to understand interp.py - I would be happy to pay someone for the modification . . Thanks, Phil. On 2015-10-25 14:20, Philip Rhoades wrote: > People, > > OK, I see I can use Inkscape's "Interpolation" to do a bit of what I > want and OpenShot lets me use SVG "frames", so is it possible to script > the interpolation process so that the individual, intermediate objects > get written to separate SVG files somehow? I can do this manually by > massaging the current interpolated SVG file but just being able to do: > > Interpolate -> Write to separate files > > would save a LOT of time . . > > Any possibilities? > > Thanks, > > Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: phil@...1587...

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New branch SprayTool Improvements
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 26 Oct '15

26 Oct '15

Hi to all. I Just finish my new branch focus on Spray Tool. The feature I added is optionaly no overlap with offsets for spray tool. There is a video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uehj4ATOWos Also in the video show at the end a option in roughen LPE to work with spray tool to give always diferent shapes on each spray item. The code for the Spray tool is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/spraytool-no-overlap The code to the roughen LPE is now on trunk. Cheers, Jabier.

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New branch SprayTool Improvements
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 25 Oct '15

25 Oct '15

Hi to all. I Just finish my new branch focus on Spray Tool. The feature I added is optionaly no overlap with offsets for spray tool. There is a video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uehj4ATOWos Also in the video show at the end a option in roughen LPE to work with spray tool to give always diferent shapes on each spray item. The code for the Spray tool is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~inksca pe.dev/inkscape/spraytool-no-overlap The code to the roughen LPE is now on trunk. Cheers, Jabier.

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Measure improvements
by Jabier Arraiza 21 Oct '15

21 Oct '15

Hi to all. I just propose for merge a branch to improve measure tool. I made a video to show it working. Think is not a bad idea to get reviewers :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE0cVDGCzbM By the way, all the best. Jabiertxo.

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roughen-improvements LPE
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 19 Oct '15

19 Oct '15

Hi to all. First of all sorry for the noise whith the roughen related commits, the work is near end but finaly i decide made a new branch to reduce noise and also work in other place. I take the code working better in trunk but not working like I want so I think this week can fix it and propose for merge. Cheers, Jabier.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Website Feedback
by Martin Owens 19 Oct '15

19 Oct '15

Hi Will, This is a great question and as the Website administrator I would normally ask you to post this in the appropriate channel. But to help get an answer (especially to your question about how to help to the features you want) I'm posting it to the developers mailing list. If you reply to any of the messages, you should subscribe to the mailing list first by looking at the email footer of that message. Developers and Users: see the message below and reply. Best Regards, Martin Owens Volunteer Website Administrator On Mon, 2015-10-19 at 15:30 +0000, Anonymous User wrote: > willprot@...36... > > There is only one thing that stops me from using Inkscape over > Illustrator and I have been waiting on it and checking on it for > literally years now and that is gradient meshes. > > Coloring an image is he most basic and integral part of graphics and > it is just way too easy & convenient to accomplish in AI to pass up, > > That said is there any time line for Gradient Meshes in Inkscape? > > Years ago the SVG2 specs for it were to be finalized Aug 2015, can't > see now where that is at. > > I also see there is a way to help certain project, but > A. not sure how? and B. If the SVG 2/Grad Mesh specs are not finalized > does that mean there can be no movement regardless for that?

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2Gom sync - high potential for regressions after r14226
by Krzysztof Kosiński 18 Oct '15

18 Oct '15

Hello I recently made a commit that finally synchronizes the 2Geom version used in Inkscape and the "upstream" version in 2Geom's Launchpad repository. It compiles and appears to work correctly, but since there were several potentially breaking changes in 2Geom, it has a high potential for regressions. The most important changes in 2Geom are: 1. The sign convention for cross(Point, Point) was flipped to match the one for cross(D2<SBasis>, D2<SBasis>): it is a[X]*b[Y] - a[Y]*b[X], not the other way around. I think I converted all uses, but one can never know. 2. All nearestPoint() methods were renamed to nearestTime(), since they return time (parameter) values, not points. nearestTime() for Path and PathVector returns PathTime and PathVectorTime respectively. PathTime encapsulates a curve index and a time value, while PathVectorTime encapsulated a path index, a curve index and a time value. The reason for using these types instead of extending the range of the time parameter from [0, 1] to [0, N] is twofold: - Packing these two parameters into the double type causes a loss of acuracy as the indices increase. For example, referencing a point that lies on the 32nd curve causes a loss of at least 5 bits of precision. - For PathVector, there is an unnecessary O(N) step involved in mapping the [0, N] time value to path and curve indices. In the future, there will be two additional families of methods: nearestPoint(), which will actually return the nearest point (I avoided adding until the sync is done to simplify porting to the new API), and nearestPosition(), which will compute both the nearest point and the time value. Doing the latter can often save a lot of calculations, since in many cases the point is computed from the time or vice versa. 3. SVGEllipticalArc was renamed to EllipticalArc, and the old EllipticalArc was removed. The only difference between them was that EllipticalArc would throw exceptions if the constructor parameters did not specify a valid arc, whereas SVGEllipticalArc just falls back to a straight line. Additionally, a number of other improvements were made, for example EllipticalArc no longer allocates a copy of itself when transforming it. 4. There was a major cleanup of Path: - Iterating between begin() and end_closed() will skip the linear closing segment if and only if its endpoints coincide exactly. SVGPathParser was modified to retain the old behavior of considering the closing segment degenerate if it is shorter than some specified tolerance. - Internally, the path is now stored as a copy-on-write boost::ptr_vector of Curve. This should give a performance boost, since we are no longer using boost::shared_ptr-based copy-on-write for each curve, but only for entire Paths. - PathVector is now a real class, not a typedef of PathVector, This allows several things to be implemented as methods instead of as standalone functions. - PathSink was improved. Instead of creating a switch-like structure for the result of dynamic_cast of the abstract curve type to more concrete types, please derive from PathSink. - There is a new class called CairoPathSink for outputting 2Geom paths and shapes to Cairo. 5. Circle and Ellipse were fleshed out, and contain many of the methods found in Curve and Path. 6. There is a new intersection API, exposed as a method on shapes and returning a class that contains two time values and the point of intersection. There are methods for Line, Circle, Ellipse, Path and PathVector. Please test and report and regressions, but please make sure to check whether they are really regressions - for example the eraser tool sometimes doesn't work and it has nothing to do with the 2Geom sync, but rather with some faulty code in livarot. Regards, Krzysztof

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CMake remaining items
by Marc Jeanmougin 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

Hi all, With su_v, we recently compiled some items left to do for CMake builds, so here it is. Feel free to take and fix anything on this list, or add anything that would be missing from it. --------------- CMake todolist -> add -std=c++11 to CXXFLAGS /if needed/ (by libsigc++>2.5.1 for instance)<https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1488079> ->make sure "make check" works and also checks extensions ->port options from configure to cmake : - WITH_GTK3_EXPERIMENTAL - WITH_DBUS - WITH_LOCAL_INSTALL (if dbus is ON) - WITH_LCMS - OSXAPP<https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1502774> - STATIC_BUILD - WITH_SILENT_RULES - WITH_SVG2 / WITH_LPETOOLS <https://gist.github.com/su-v/79199ba0ac5df2e2ac7c> --enable-strict-build -> use pkgconfig for imagemagick so that it correctly sets MAGICKCORE_HDRI_ENABLE and MAGICKCORE_QUANTUM_DEPTH. Also do the proper thing for pango and fontconfig. -> install man pages ->check remaining FIXME -> (automatically update author dialog from authors file?) -> set the version string if not built from a bzr directory - check that all cmake option variables //actually do/ /what they claim Windows : -> Add a variable to devlibs, and more generally get cmake to work as expected with "cmake .; make" on windows -> check dependencies -------------- -- Mc

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Inkscape consultant and development needed
by Mats Blakstad 15 Oct '15

15 Oct '15

Hi I organize a postcard and translation project named Globalbility <http://en.globalbility.org/>. We use vectore graphic maps (see map icon in corner) and also the posters at the website is done in SVG (it is automatically created out of our translations using a SVG-template). The website i created using Drupal CMS <https://www.drupal.org/>, and I now look into possibilities to integrate new functionalities related to vector graphic on the website. More specificually I'm interested to look into how to *manipulate SVG using terminal commands*, and possibilities to *make Drupal and Inkscape communicate good (create a module)*. Also some general consulting about *text rendering in inskcape/svg* that is very important for multilingual SVG, and strategic planning for SVG2 for if/when it is ever coming. This is an open source project so anything that might be useful for others will be contributed back to Drupal and/or Inkscape. If anyone are interested and have time, please write me and tell me your working rate. Thanks Mats Blakstad

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A discussion about color management in Inkscape
by Tobias Ellinghaus 11 Oct '15

11 Oct '15

Hello List, a while ago I filed a bug in launchpad about how Inkscape treats color spaces and does its display color management (https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1457053). As requested by Tavmjong I wrote up some further explanations in the hope that it helps people understand the problem and maybe start some discussion. First of all I beg your pardon for the wall of text. If you know about color spaces just skip the "Theory" part. In the following description I will only talk about RGB color spaces. For things like CMYK the same reasoning applies but I want to keep it simple. For the sake of readability. I will also simplify a terrible lot to keep this beginner friendly and easy to understand. Like, seriously simplify. No need to point that out. I am also aware that some of the limitations might be coming from the SVG specs or are at least implied in there (like the mandatory blending in gamma corrected or linear sRGB). Theory When we talk about (RGB, see above) colors we often only mention three numbers representing the value for each of the red, green and blue channel. In general 0 means "nothing" and 255 (8 bit values) or 1.0 (float values) means "full power". I will use the float notation here since it's easier to calculate in the head. Thus, something like (1, 0, 0) means "the reddest red" and (1, 1, 1) is "white". Now, there is a problem once you want to display such a color: What does "full power" or "the reddest red" actually mean? That's where color spaces come into play. They define a set of "primaries" that tell us what "red", "green" and "blue" actually mean. They are defined in absolute, real world means (most often in XYZ) that directly relate to specific wavelengths of light and precisely define a color that can be displayed. With that knowledge it's possible to say that (1, 0, 0) is not just some reddest red, but what it looks exactly like. Every other color inside the [0..1] range per channel can thus be defined, too. Some popular color spaces are sRGB and AdobeRGB in the RGB world. The CMYK world has things like "ISO Coated v2". Of course there is more than just one color space and most have different primaries. The colors that can be described with a given set of primaries is called the "gamut" of a color space – not to be confused with the color space's "gamma"! We will ignore the latter. Now that we know that the same triplet of numbers does mean something different in different color spaces we also understand that the numbers alone are meaningless without a color space. Since there is a terribly large number of images – both raster and vector – without any color profile information attached there is the common default of assuming sRGB. When looking at articles about color spaces there are almost always images of a horse shoe formed colorful diagram with a triangle on top (like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CIE1931xy_gamut_comparison.svg). The background horse shoe represents all possible colors a typical human can see while the corners of the triangle are just the aforementioned primaries. The area of the triangle covers the colors that the colorspace can display*. With the AdobeRGB triangle being bigger than the sRGB one (and completely covering it) we can easily see that AdobeRGB contains colors that are not expressible in sRGB. Besides these well known and standardized color spaces used to define colors in images there are also device color spaces that describe what colors some physical appliance can display. For now we will concentrate on monitor profiles since they are also RGB but of course also printers with four or even more colors can be measured and their primaries be determined. See the SWOP CMYK gamut in the sample image for a typical result of that. Back in the days of CRTs there was that prototypical monitor that exactly covered the sRGB color space – it's where it originated from. Nowadays with LCD displays and all that diverging technologies there isn't one typical display profile any longer. It turns out that most laptops and consumer grade displays cover less than sRGB while some high end monitors reach AdobeRGB or even wider gamuts. Therefore it's important to have proper color management in place so that the (1, 0, 0) you put into an image looks the same everywhere and not like an orange on some screens and a fire truck on another. Current state of Inkscape I have to admit that it's a while since I looked at the relevant code so my memory might be missing some details, but I am quite sure that the general picture I'm going to paint is in the right ballpark. When Inkscape displays "normal" colors they are untagged, 8 bit values. So it's just something of the form (255, 0, 255) for a nice magenta. According to the SVG specs (http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/color.html) this is implicitly assumed to be sRGB. Using the CMS mode of the Fill&Stroke dialog the user can also specify the color space to be something else, for example AdobeRGB. While the value set in that mode gets propagated to the SVG as-is and be tagged with its color space, internally it will be converted to sRGB. When the user also specified a display profile the result of the renderer will in the end be transformed from sRGB (that's what all the colors Inkscape works with are) to the display profile. Problems While in theory this seems to be a sound way to deal with colors – transforming everything to sRGB as the internal working space – it poses a few problems in practice. First and foremost there is the usage of 8 bit values. It doesn't allow very fine steps between tonalities. And the bigger the color space's gamut gets the worse it becomes. That is especially true when doing blending in linear space and not gamma corrected (never mind that detail, it's not the important part here). Just look at the diagram again. The same number of steps (255 in case of 8 bit values) have to stretch a wider range of real world colors, so every intermediate step gets bigger. Another problem with 8 bit colors is that there is nothing below 0 and nothing above 255. At first that might not look like a problem, after all, (255, 0, 0) is the reddest red. There is nothing more red, so why think about numbers that are bigger? Well, because as we have seen earlier, it's only the reddest red in its own color space. When looked at it in any bigger color space it's just an average red, there are redder reds. Therefore the transformation of colors into sRGB will leave wrong results when anything that is not inside the sRGB gamut is being transformed to it and at the same time clipped to the 8 bit range. The result can't be mapped back to the original color any longer. Even when the display is able to cover all the AdobeRGB colors and the user specifies the colors in that color space the displayed results will map everything outside of the sRGB gamut to its inside (there are several way to do that clamping, you can just cut the values off, scale them nicely, ... but at the end of the day they are not what they used to be). To show the results of this clamping have a look at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/206984719/canvas_cms.png. Every row contains the same color value (shown on the left) four times, just tagged with different color spaces. So the first row should show the reddest red in AdobeRGB, sRGB and Laptop (some color space SMALLER than sRGB). We will ignore the GRB column, it's just there to show that color management was actually turned on. We notice that the first two columns look the same though. The reason is the clamping Inkscape does. The reddest red of AdobeRGB (i.e., its red primary) is far outside of sRGB's gamut. So Inkscape clamps the color and moves it to the closest sRGB contains: the reddest red sRGB knows. The same happens for green and blue. Once that happened every further step won't distinguish between the colors that once were very different and no matter what display profile is set the result will look the same. Because it is. Now for the third column. The Laptop profile has a smaller gamut than sRGB so when converting its primaries to sRGB they can be represented in the 8 bit range and are shown correctly in the resulting image. A better world All of this isn't that great for anything that is supposed to have correct colors and not be limited to sRGB. That might be less of a concern for Web graphics, but once you think about printing (most CMYK profiles are not inside the sRGB gamut) or even just seeing your work on a good monitor you have a problem. The first step would be to get rid of the 8 bit limitation. Not only would that allow for smoother gradients (remember that step size? With float they become virtually arbitrarily small!) but floats also allow to transform colors to a smaller gamut without clipping them since the values can be bigger than 1.0. Of course, all color math has to be checked if it would still work with values bigger than "full power" and there are cases where it will fail. Thus as a second step it would be helpful to either replace sRGB with something bigger for the internal working space (not exactly what the SVG specs allow :-() or maybe even keep all colors in their original color space and only do transformations where needed. Since there are even problems when doing some computations in a gamut that can express all colors but isn't the original one it might even be a good idea to let the user specify a color space of the whole document so that all colors that are not tagged are treated as that color space instead of sRGB, i.e., specify the working space (again, not what the SVG specs call for). For documents not mixing colors of different color spaces that might be the best solution – just take all colors as-is, handle them like Inkscape already does (with the exception that it should really really do it in float and not 8 bit) and in the end convert from the document working space to the display color space. * Actually this is just the colors with maximum saturation, the set of all colors isn't a triangle but skewed box in 3D space. In order to compare color spaces it's enough to look at this projection though. Thanks for reading Tobias

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Website Downtime
by Martin Owens 09 Oct '15

09 Oct '15

Dear all, The inkscape website was down because of a DDos attack against one of OSUOSL's vlans. From: 2015-10-08 12:32 -0700 To: 2015-10-08 13:56 -0700 Hosting mailing list: "The outage is now over. A particular IP on this block experienced a DDOS. Since it has received several in the last few weeks, we're looking at moving it over to a different vlan that is better equipped to deal with these issues." >From their support: "As communicated via our hosting mailing list, this ddos has subsided. We are pursuing a strategy with our ISP to isolate the target to its own vlan, so we can apply stronger filtering rules, as well as contain the side-effects of exceeding transit limits." Su_v has a list of downloads for anyone who needs to download during a downtime period again. IRC should be used to find out more information if the website is down. Best Regards, Martin Owens Website Administrator

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Hackfest 2016
by Tavmjong Bah 07 Oct '15

07 Oct '15

Hi all, At the Inkscape board meeting on IRC last week we started to think about our next Hackfest. While not absolutely necessary, it might be useful to couple it with a conference as we did last year with LGM. LGM will be in London this year[1] (April 15-18) and that is certainly a possibility but we also would like to look at other conferences. Does anybody have suggestions for other conferences that would be appealing to Inkscapers? Other conferences mentioned include FOSDEM[2], SCALE[3] and OSBridge[4]. Has anybody been to these conferences? Thanks, Tav [1] http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2016/ [2] https://fosdem.org/2016/ [3] https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x [4] http://opensourcebridge.org/

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Another font issue: Calluna Regular
by C R 05 Oct '15

05 Oct '15

Calluna Regular, which is currently in use on the website is a commercial font. While it's true that the regular version is offered under a free license, it is not offered under an OFL license, and what's a bit worse, is not licensed at all for use in documents, etc. (only desktop/web, and some sites want to sell a web license for it, which is worrying). So... heh. Anyone want me to work on finding alternatives for that one too? We pretty much need to. -C

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Technical IRC Meeting
by Josh Andler 05 Oct '15

05 Oct '15

Hey All, During the board meeting today it was evident that we need to schedule a technical meeting to discuss development issues (likely both Inkscape code and Inkscape website related). It looks the week of the 18th-24th is where we should be aiming to calendar something as 1 of the people who would like to participate has school conflicts between now and then. Does the noon Pacific time slot work again like it did for the board meeting? If so, what days are people available that they're aware of in that timeframe? I'm pretty open right now, so we can leave it to others to eliminate days based on availability. Cheers, Josh

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Inkscape extension: inkscape-placeholders
by Xaviju Julián 05 Oct '15

05 Oct '15

Hi! I just wanted to share with you an extension I developed that might be useful for some of you, specially for inkscape web designers. Its a extension that has two functionalities: - Create image placeholders in any size and width with random images from unsplash <https://unsplash.it/> - Create random user avatars from uifaces <http://uifaces.com/>. Both plugins and documentation on how to install them are available via github: https://github.com/Xaviju/inkscape-placeholder I have also written a blog post on how to create inkscape extensions for non developers: https://medium.com/@xaviju/inkscape-extensions-by-non-developers-for-non-de… with what I have learned developing this extensions. Since I am not a python developer myseff it can contain some errors so I will be glad to receive feedback and corrections on how to improve it or PRs to fix any code bugs. Of course, any suggestions or ideas are welcome as well. Regards!

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Gimp to SVG
by Jabier Arraiza 02 Oct '15

02 Oct '15

Hi to all. I just update the plugin export from Gimp to SVG to allow the export text as text. It become in a new class called "pango to SVG" on the branch. Here are the code: https://github.com/jabiertxof/Gimp-to-SVG Dont forget make executable the plugin if on Linux. Thanks to Guillermo Espertino for the idea and for first betatesting. All the best, Jabiertxo.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Another font issue: Calluna Regular
by Hinerangi Courtenay 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

Hi people, Maren gave me a heads up on the font issue (sorry I've been skipping the digests lately, so thanks for that!). Actually great point about the font, at the time I made the website mockups (5 years ago now) I didn't even consider open-source font licencing a critical issue. The Libertine Regular font proposed looks like a good drop-in replacement. There are so many issues with the way the typography has evolved on the website, that I'd really like to redefine a proper style guide (typography, colours, everything) with the planned responsive redesign/evolution. Also the new Draw Freely font is great! Cheers,Hine

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The font issue
by Jelle Mulder 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

Hi all, I tend to use fontsquirrel for things like this. It also allows to filter your search for languages. Sadly though for me in China it is hardly possible to use the filters due to timeouts. However, looking for scripts,.. how would you imagine doing that for Chinese or Hindi? I actually thought this was limited to the English text "Draw Freely". I would suggest that the slogan can be edited freely for other languages and fonts chosen as required. Vectorising the fonts would also solve the problem as it then no longer is a font. No need to download font files either that way for those few characters. When it comes to Chinese fonts, they can have up to 180.000 characters for the traditional ones and come at a whopping 18 MB for a font file. It's one of the reasons I am not that happy with deprecating SVG fonts in SVG 2.0. It was a godsend for keeping the glyph libraries small. The alternative now is to create font subsets for every page. But yeah,.. that's another discussion. I think the website font is more of an issue really. That one requires a number of font sets to be chosen and recommended for several of the larger language groups. That basically leaves us with only a few options as the amount of fonts that cater to the world are pretty few. Only fonts used by OS interfaces will be available all others will be proprietary created by foundries that spend years on it. Cheers, Jelle

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Strange bug related to "recent file" list
by su_v 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

Quoting reply received off-list - maybe someone on the list can comment on the proposal? On 2015-09-29 21:29 (+0200), Riccardo Bernardini wrote: > >> Known issue (not fixed yet) tracked here: >> Bug #1404934 “Crash when opening files (Glib::ConvertError exception)” >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1404934 > > Would it suffice to catch the exception Glib::ConvertError: threw by filename_from_url() at resource-manager.cpp:225, so that the offending entry is skipped and not appended to priorLocations (maybe with some warning output)? If yes, I could try doing the minimal change and submit it. > > Riccardo

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Strange bug related to "recent file" list
by Riccardo Bernardini 29 Sep '15

29 Sep '15

Dear all, I just experienced (and -- fortunately -- solved) a strange bug that almost made me crazy. I am sending this mail with my experience, in case it could help someone else with the same problem. I checked the devel mailing list for something related (searched for "recent file"), but I did not find anything, so I assume that this is new. If it is not new, or if this is not the right mailing list, please excuse me. I use inkscape 0.91 on Linux Mint cinnamon 17, 32 bit. Until yesterday inkscape was working just fine. Suddenly, I was not able to open any SVG file, including the tutorials. As soon as the file opened, inkscape died with "inkscape experienced an internal error and it will close now." The output at terminal showed that it died with GLib::ConversionError and running inkscape under gdb showed that the exception was threw by GLib::filename_from_url. I tried rebooting, removing (completely) inkscape and re-installing, removing the configuration directory under .gconf, but the bug remained. If I run inkscape as a different user, it worked fine. I recompiled inkscape from sources in order to have all the symbols. By running it under gdb I discovered that the problem was an entry "file://pitch.ops" in the recent file list. I guess the problem was that the file was with a relative path (note the two '/') and not an absolute one (I guess this is a bug of OpenShot, why registering a relative path in the "recent file" list?). I cleaned the "recent files" list and everything works again. I hope this helps. Riccardo -- Riccardo Bernardini Tel : +39-0432-55-8271 skype : bernardini.riccardo LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/riccardobernardini

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Four finalists "Draw Freely" font
by C R 27 Sep '15

27 Sep '15

Hello everyone! We've narrowed it down to four finalists for the "Draw Freely" font. http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/samples/draw-freely_vote_finalists… So pick your favs from this final set, and the winner will be announced Monday. #1 is in the lead right now, so if no one votes, that will be our new Draw Freely font. :) Thanks for your votes! -C

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My last work
by Jabier Arraiza 27 Sep '15

27 Sep '15

Hi! Here are a pic and a link to my last work. https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/6626/ Branch description: This branch improve the Knot and the Mesh gradient code: Knot: Add a new knot type "TRIANGLE". Add a new knot property called Angle to turn triangle knots. Mesh: Improve the size of corners (DIAMOND) knots. Update to angled triangle knots the handles of selected corners. All the best, Jabier.

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Four finalists "Draw Freely" font (C R)
by Jelle Mulder 26 Sep '15

26 Sep '15

Hello CR, Sticking to nr 3 Jelle

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Inkscape Board Election Results
by Ted Gould 26 Sep '15

26 Sep '15

Dear developers, dear candidates, thank you all for your participation in the Inkscape Board elections — especially to the candidates, who volunteered for these positions and who patiently answered the questions that were asked on the mailing list. All in all, 40 project members cast their vote. The two candidates who won the election are Krzysztof Kosiński and Martin W.F. Owens. Congratulations! You can take a look at the complete results of the election at https://vote.sfconservancy.org/results.php?election_id=6 Also, we'd like to ask everyone on the Board to check up on your profiles on the inkscape.org website and fill in a short bio text, if there isn't any yet, as they will be presented on the web page about the Board. The 'old' Board members, Tav, Ted, Jon, Bryce and Josh, will help you with any questions you have about your duties, and give you access to Board-only resources, like the board-docs repo at launchpad. All best, The Inkscape Elections Committee

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Current revision
by John Culleton 25 Sep '15

25 Sep '15

Is 14384 the latest (or close to the latest) release? -- John Culleton Wexford Press Book layout, typesetting and Indexing Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html

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User Tutorials and Presentations
by Martin Owens 25 Sep '15

25 Sep '15

Dear all, One of the things that would have been good for this conference (Graphical Web 2015) is an Inkscape tutorial presentation. Very few people know where anything is in inkscape or even what it's capable of while Adobe is given a lot of space to tutorial and present on their actual technology. It's a bit depressing actually. But at least there is the interest in inkscape and we are mentioned in other people's talks. Should we prepare some of the video scripts we end up making into presentable packages? It might be something easy for us to do if we just package up what we make for others to present? Thoughts? Martin,

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Graphical Web Conference: SVG2 Points
by Martin Owens 23 Sep '15

23 Sep '15

Dear all, The conference is going well. I am reporting back that there is heightened interest in connector points. I have been approached a couple of time to talk about them. We have a <point...> element defined in svg2 so far, what is the current implementation status and/or what is the current estimated workload for an implementation? Any other information about connectors from events in the last year would be additionally useful. Thanks for your help. Best Regards, Martin Owens

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User Help (tutorials)
by Martin Owens 23 Sep '15

23 Sep '15

Dear developers, I was reviewing inkscape on deviantArt and I noticed a theme: www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape Apart from the odd "I hate Inkscape" etc, there's a big need for tutorials and most are interested in video tutorials. This is probably something we should put together for the website. Something coherent for users. But I'm not exactly sure of the structure we should use. A competition? Scouting for talent? What do you think? Best Regards, Martin Owens

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Choosing an Open Font for Inkscape "Draw Freely".
by C R 23 Sep '15

23 Sep '15

TLDR: We are voting on an Open Font replacement for the "Draw Freely" Tagline. Jump down to the link and click it to see what the options are. Since the feedback so far has been good on the user tutorial thread, I'd like to reach everyone I can to make this decision, in case not everyone is paying attention to the video tutorial stuff, so here's another opportunity to vote! In short: we'd like to replace the "Draw Freely" tagline with a font which we will use as an official font for the Inkscape project. The main reason for this is that the currently used font is proprietary, and the general consensus (via mailing list and #inkscape) is that we'd like to replace it with an open alternative. Reasons for this are: 1. We can not change the font - Thus, we are unable to add extra character support for other languages. 2. We can not use the font elsewhere without paying more license fees, and we would like to be able to use the same font on the website, in tutorial videos, and other user documentation. 3. We can not distribute the font with Inkscape materials without paying license fees. 4. Our users can't use the font in their own materials without paying license fees. 5. Open fonts rock, in all the same ways that Open Source software rocks, and contributes to creative freedom, which is in line with the project's creedo "Draw Freely". Thus, I have pillaged Google's collection of fonts which are composed of fonts with the SIL Open Font license, and Apache Licenses, pulling out all the ones that looked scripty/handwritten. I have written a page that allows a preview of each of them along with the Inkscape logo here: http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/samples/draw_freely_font_list.html Use keyboard arrow-keys (left and right) to scroll through the fonts, and (up and down) keys to enlarge or decrease the font size to your liking (you can also click a link out of the list on the left to jump to your at-a-glance favs). To vote on your favourites, just reply to this email with the font name(s), number(s), and/or a copy of the share link at the bottom of the page. If you've already voted, you don't need to again. :) Cheers. -C

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Choosing an Open Font for Inkscape "Draw Freely".
by Jelle Mulder 23 Sep '15

23 Sep '15

Thanks for the good insight CR, # 4 As being the most reflective of the text and balanced Jelle

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How to build lp:inkscape with CMake?
by Olof Bjarnason 22 Sep '15

22 Sep '15

When browsing the wiki for build instructions under Ubuntu, I only found instructions on how to build using autogen.sh. I would prefer building Inkscape with the "new" build system CMake, could some one tell me what steps to follow / the diff from these instructions? (preferably update the wiki page) Specifically: do I need to run autogen.sh and configure? http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/CompilingUbuntu Mvh /Olof ----------------- Trött på virus, seg dator och allmänt Windowsstrul? Pröva något nytt istället - Ubuntu! http://uboot.nu

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save s copy as PDF destroys patterns
by Shai Efrati 21 Sep '15

21 Sep '15

Hello, When trying to save a copy to PDF (and also in print to file) the resulted file are broken. For example: if my pattern is small red dots, the pattern in the PDF are chunks of squares with small red dots. I'm using Inkscape 0.91r on Ubuntu 14.04 and i checked it also on Windows7 with Inkscape 0.91pre3 r13670 Steps to reproduce: 1. Create a simple pattern. 2. Add an objects. 3. Change fill to pattern. 4. Save a copy to PDF. A possible workaround would be to use filter effects on the pattern filled objects and then to save as a PDF. This way Inkscape will rasterize these objects and they will be rendered as they should be, but they won't be kept as vectors anymore. Is there a way to keep them as vectors in the PDF? if not, is it possible to rasterize patterns as Inkscape already does to filters without the need to use filters on them? I opened a relevant question here: http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/60825/inkscape-save-as-pdf… And i see other relevant question here: http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/28849/inkscape-problems-ex… Is there an open bug regarding this issue? Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks! Shai.

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Inkscape official video intro project - Thoughts on the message.
by C R 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

So, I was thinking, based on my Initial wip animation of the inkdrop character and the inkscape logo... http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/samples/inkscape_intro_animation_w… ... that the Inkdrop character is cute and fun and everything, BUT, the intro does not really say anything about what Inkscape actually DOES.. and I think it should. :) This got me thinking about what I personally use Inkscape for... So what if, instead of the 3D animation, we show a single inkdrop splattering onto the whitespace of the screen, the blob can then make a series of transformations through icon shapes that represent the various things people do with Inkscape in the real world. My initial thoughts on the transformation sequence are: 1. Blob/splatter 2. Inkdrop (first hint at the name inkscape) 3. Pentip (represents hand-writing/drawing) 3. Magazine/Book 4. Box and Bottle (to represent package design) 5. Jumping videogame character (for game development) 6. Pair of scissors and jacket template (represents material templates and vector laser cuttings) 7. Folded greeting card 8. Billboard 9. A car blueprint (for product design) 10. The Inkscape logo Then finally, "Draw freely" scribble-animated under it Thinking some modern, energetic minimalist techno to set the beat of the animation to, so the transformations can match up to the beat. Each icon listed above will have the same visual weight and style as the Inkscape logo. And all made in Inkscape, of course. :) I think this would do a better job of instantly explaining what you can use Inkscape for, and also get people a bit excited about using the software. It will also look very modern with a style of animation similar to what large companies are using to pitch their products. I will also finish the original inkdrop 3d animation, and we can add it to the materials for hackfests, conventions, and/or give it out for people to use in their review videos and tutorials for inkscape, etc. Thoughts?

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Choosing an Open Font for Inkscape "Draw Freely"
by Jelle Mulder 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

Hello All, From the list my personal favorites are, "Nothing you could do" At first glance there are quite some flaws to it, kerning isn't all that great for instance and the word spacing needs some toiling. But I like the dynamics of it, the weight goes well with the weight of the INKSCAPE font and logo and the sheer clumsiness of it appeals to the text "Draw Freely" as it expresses the idea of having no strings attached. It is a fairly unkempt handwriting style rough and raw like I could have written myself as a scribbled note. To my idea that is an important message to convey and none of the others make up to that as they are too tidy and constructed. There are some similar fonts that however don't have dynamics compatible with the logo and this one does. "Seaweed Script" A well constructed script, good kerning and as such giving a more professional aura. The weight again is compatible with the current INKSCAPE text and the weight of the logo. The dynamics are also compatible with the composition of the logo, but it lacks the concept of Draw Freely to me, for the fact of being so constructed and slick. In general most of these fonts have rather poor kerning and that is the main difference with many of the proprietary fonts and why people still pay for them. Typography is an art that not that many master and the sometimes years of toiling that goes into getting a font done right isn't often valued. Using proprietary fonts as such isn't quite such an issue to me for that reason, same as using copyrighted images would be. The users of Inkscape do intend to make a living of their creativity as well and are not just creating content under CC license are they? That said however, using proprietary fonts might lead to IP issues and as such using an Open font might be a good idea. My two cents. Cheers, Jelle

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Status: Inkscape-Web to Git
by Martin Owens 13 Sep '15

13 Sep '15

Dear Developers, I'm testing the new launchpad git beta with the inkscape-web branch, to give me a taste of the issues we might have moving inkscape proper. You can find the new git branch here: https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape-webadmin/inkscape-web/+git/inkscape-web Even with my 1k commits for the website, there was an error with the fast-export | fast-import method when one file 'text.svg' was moved to 'document.svg' and 'plain.svg' was moved to 'text.svg' in the same commit. The order of the move is important in the output and in this case it was wrong. Saving the output of fast-export to a file and then editing the text by swapping the lines was enough to get it working. There was also issues with it's end state. It thought all files had been deleted and also untracked. Adding them all back in fixed it without commit, although there were still some old files it thought had been deleted now when they had been deleted much earlier. You can see the transition commit from the link above. There are some scripts we use in utils which will need porting and the git tree will come into effect when we upgrade the website to 1.4 and the live and staging branches are pulled up to trunk. Then I don't have to somehow transition every branch and I can turn them into git /branches/ and keep it tidy. For now the inkscape-web project will continue to be configured for bzr, but I ask people keep their branching to a minimum until the upgrade. Maren is the only person with an open branch right now other than trunk staging and live. That'll still be accessable, but we should consider closing it one way (merge) or another (close) Any questions about the process? Best Regards, Martin Owens

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Reminder! Last day to Vote
by Tavmjong Bah 12 Sep '15

12 Sep '15

Today is the last day to vote for the new Inkscape board members. Tav

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Gimp Export as SVG as a text layer
by Jabier Arraiza 11 Sep '15

11 Sep '15

Hi to all. Im currently improving the Gimp plugin "Export as SVG" to export layers as text. Attached are two files, one whith a Generated SVG output and the other a log whith a crash when try to select the red string text whith the text tool. Also is more than a crash, because freeze my sistem -debian stable- and force me logout. Maybe could be a header removed from SPItem there is here previously? Thanks in advance for our help, best regards, Jabier.

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Question about bug
by Jabier Arraiza 09 Sep '15

09 Sep '15

Hello! The bug is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1242170 The two proposal fixes, a bit outdated need a decision about it: The problem is: Lpe dont work on grouped shapes The fixes proposals also fix the problem of use diferents LPE inside the same tree group. Proposal A *Cons: Convert shape elements to paths. Proposal B *Cons: Some bouding box problems on LPE with shapes Star, Ellipse and Spiral whith a LPE dont be affected by group LPE. The cuestion: Is mandatory keep the sapes as shapes or can be converted to path - maybe only if inside a group, maybe in all cases, like in 0.48 Surre the code needs review, is a old code but I need to get feedback about direction. Thanks in advance, Jabier. PD: If anyone want to try the patches ping me and update it to work whith current trunk

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Board Elections: only a few days left - cast your vote now!
by Maren Hachmann 05 Sep '15

05 Sep '15

Hi devs, just a reminder: If you're in the AUTHORS file, you should have received a voting token from SFC (or maybe two mails, with the same token). If you haven't voted yet, you should do that right now, as there are only a few days left (until September 10th - but I'm unsure of the time zone that applies, so don't wait until the last day!). If you have not received a voting token, but are certain that you should have, please contact the elections committee ASAP via inkscape.elections.committee@...3261... so that we can ensure that your vote is counted, too. Kind regards, Maren

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Bug: Pattern disappears on high zoom-levels or bitmap export
by slub＠...173... 04 Sep '15

04 Sep '15

Hello, I'm using lithographic patterns from the USGS in my project. Download can be found hier: https://blogs.otago.ac.nz/si-geology/resources/illustrationgraphics-resourc… One of the patterns is used in the attached file. If you open this file an zoom into the filled object, the pattern disappears at zoomlevel 3000%. Also the pattern is not exported to PNG in "higher" resolutions (say 2000px width) This behaviour crashes my project completely :( Is there a solution? Greetings Slub

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css layers
by Simon Klemenc 03 Sep '15

03 Sep '15

Hi there, Please excuse if this has already been discussed, i could not find anything similar in the archives. So, I have a proposal, as svg natively does not really support "layers" but inkscape seems to mimic layers by adding a group with custom xml-attributes. How about trying to be closer to native svg/xml standard and have something similar to a "layer" (common fill, stroke,... attributes) solved by using class-attributes? Currently to me there seems to be no way to list all objects belonging to a group except for the xml-editor. That makes it really hard to use, but anyhow i saw there is an object manager coming in 0.92 With the current design i can't guess a way to have groups of objects being on different layers. Patterns for example could have pieces on a layer to cut, a layer to mark and so on... What do you think? best regards, Simon -- simon klemenc mail: simon@...3270... web: www.booya.at

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Meassure tool
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 02 Sep '15

02 Sep '15

Hi to all. I have in mind work on meassure tool. The goal is: * Allow reposition of meassure * Store the last meassure start/end point to redraw it on tool reload. * Make it optionaly visible in others/some tools and maybe editable * Convert to Gides * Snapping, not sure is a good idea, but need to learn more about snapping. Tell me if anybody want discuss about. Also ping me if anyone want help in any part. All the best, Jabier.

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State of cxxtest -> Google Test transistion?
by Olof Bjarnason 01 Sep '15

01 Sep '15

I'm interested in the state of the transition from cxxtest to Google Test framework. 1. How many % of all tests have been re-written to use Google Test instead of cxxtest? 2. Does make test run Google Test suite or cxxtest or both? 3. Is the Google Test framework software included in the repository or a dependency? If the latter, what package? I guess what I'm looking for is a wiki page with the general status / how to details on this refactoring effort... I wouldn't mind spending some time helping on this as a way to learn about Inkscape's source/architecture, and Google Test framework. Cheers /Olof

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Update for Gimp plug-in Export to SVG
by Jabier Arraiza 01 Sep '15

01 Sep '15

Hi to all, I just update the plug-in http://registry.gimp.org/node/25049 from Erdem Guven. New features in .md The code is here because registry.gimp.org is locked: https://github.com/jabiertxof/gimp-export-to-svg @Erdem I could transfer the git branch to another GitHUb account All the best.

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XQuartz status
by Lucian Holland 31 Aug '15

31 Aug '15

Hi, Like many other people using Inkscape on a Mac, I’ve had lots of problems with multi-monitor support through different versions of XQuartz and OS X. It’s still basically unusable if you have the “Displays have separate spaces” option enabled. I’ve commented on some of the XQuartz bugs, and raised issues with Apple in the hope that someday something might get fixed. The other day I received an update on one of the XQuartz bugs (included below). Is anyone else worried that a fundamental piece of the architecture for making Inkscape work on a Mac is pretty much unsupported now? I’m guessing that if there’s no one working on it things are just going to get worse as new versions of OS X roll out? Lucian -- Lucian Holland Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) Forwarded message: > From: XQuartz <trac@...3267...> > Reply To: noreply@...3267... > Date: Tuesday, 4 August 2015 04:21:57 > Subject: Re: [XQuartz] #796: Mavericks spaces + XQuartz windows disappearing between monitors > > #796: Mavericks spaces + XQuartz windows disappearing between monitors > ------------------------+------------------------------------ > Reporter: sishome@… | Owner: jeremyhu@… > Type: usability | Status: closed > Priority: Blocker | Milestone: > Component: xserver | Version: 2.7.4 (xserver-1.13.0) > Resolution: Invalid | Keywords: > ------------------------+------------------------------------ > > Comment (by jeremyhu@…): > > It's an issue in the interaction between OS X and XQuartz. It could > likely be solved in XQuartz (specifically in quartz-wm) if someone was > interested in working on that. If someone fixes it, I'll gladly pull a > fix into an XQuartz update, but as it is, there isn't really anyone > working on the product these days. > > -- > Ticket URL: <http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/796#comment:42> > XQuartz <http://xquartz.macosforge.org/> > > >

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GIT/BZR clone instructions are incorrect
by Shyamal Chandra 28 Aug '15

28 Aug '15

Hi, The following instructions are incorrect in the screenshot attached. What should I do to obtain the source code for the inkscape source code? Thanks! Shyamal Chandra shyamalc@...400...

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Election ballots sent out
by Ted Gould 28 Aug '15

28 Aug '15

Hello, This is just an e-mail to tell everyone that the ballots have been sent out for the election. If it this point if you haven't received a ballot, and you expect to, that is a problem. Please check your spam filters and then send an e-mail to the election committee. Because of the time that it took to send out the ballots we've extended the voting period to be two weeks from yesterday, or until Sept. 10th. Please don't wait until the end and forget though. Thanks, Ted

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Fwd: User Help (tutorials)
by C R 27 Aug '15

27 Aug '15

We can tackle this on several fronts: 1. Feature-oriented videos to demonstrate tools. These videos would accompany the documentation. I found this quite helpful to learn Blender 3D. 2. A beginner walk-through of Inkscape's user interface 3. A teaser/commercial with screencaptures of some of our talented community of artists working on professional projects with Inkscape. 4. Migration from Adobe Illustrator to Inkscape for graphics professionals 5. A short series of how-to videos demonstrating how to make some common graphics tasks like: -How to make elements like vines/flourishes -How to use Inkscape for package design -How to use Inkscape for labels, barcodes, and templates -How to use Inkscape for product design -Using Inkscape to make video caption templates -Favourites, or most-asked-for tutorials on the forums. -etc. 6. Tips and tricks to do things quickly in Inkscape. Some of these things aren't obvious, but highlighting features and how to use them to supercharge your graphics workflow is key especially for production artists. I can do pretty much all of these, with the added bonus of using Blender 3D as my Open Source video production software of choice. My only real limitation is time, but I'm happy to provide my graphics and materials to the team so others can help by filling in the gaps when they get time. Thoughts? -C On 25 Aug 2015 3:02 pm, "Alex Valavanis" <valavanisalex@...400...> wrote: > We briefly discussed the prospect of adding tutorials on a streaming > site at the Hackfest... given the size of the user community, the ad > revenue from something like YouTube could be helpful. As for who > would do it, I'm not sure! > > AV > > On 25 August 2015 at 14:53, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> wrote: > > Dear developers, > > > > I was reviewing inkscape on deviantArt and I noticed a theme: > > > > www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape > > > > Apart from the odd "I hate Inkscape" etc, there's a big need for > > tutorials and most are interested in video tutorials. > > > > This is probably something we should put together for the website. > > Something coherent for users. > > > > But I'm not exactly sure of the structure we should use. A competition? > > Scouting for talent? > > > > What do you think? > > > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >

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RFC: stroke-alignment property for SVG and Inkscape
by Juan Luis Boya García 27 Aug '15

27 Aug '15

Hi. I'm Juan Luis Boya. As a Semester of Code project (http://semesterofcode.com/) I've have been for some time trying to add alternative stroke alignment options to Inkscape. There is an in-progress W3C draft for SVG2 that attempts to introduce a property named `stroke-alignment` for this purpose. This is an attempt to create an implementation of it. http://www.w3.org/TR/svg-strokes/ This property would control the placement of path strokes. This is better explained with an example. See this image: http://i.imgur.com/GIqKrwj.png The image shows the same rectangle with four different stroking modes. The black line represents the shape path, as that you would see with the 'Edit paths by nodes' tool in Inkscape. Shown in orange is the stroke of the path as would be seen by the user. A issue with the previous proposal was there was no definition for open paths. I propose to amend this in two ways: a) Adding two new values: `left` and `right`. `left` would place the stroke at the left of each path segment. The direction of the path is determined by the order of the nodes, in the same manner arrow lines work. The following image shows an example of how this would work: http://i.imgur.com/otULloP.png b) `inset` and `outset` would work as if the shapes were closed with a straight line, except that line would not be rendered. The property would be set as an style property (in CSS code). Add a few toggle buttons would be added to the Inkscape UI in the Stroke Style tab in order to control the value of the property. As for the implementation: 1. The offsetting would be done only to the stroke line, which will still be rendered as an stroked line (instead of being converted to a polygon). 2. The property would be added to NRStyle and SPStyle classes. 3. Add buttons to the Stroke Style UI. 4. As far as I know, paths are rendered in DrawingShape::_renderItem(). This method reads style properties from a class member named _nrstyle. (Therefore we need to add properties to both NRStyle and SPStyle). Now, this method would read the property and stroke appropriately. At the time of writing Cairo does not have support for a style property like this, so we will do the offsetting in Inkscape. a) If the value is center, the same path would be used for both stroke and fill. b) In other case, first fill will be applied using the original path, then the offsetted path would be calculated and stroked. For the stroke-alignment values 'right' and 'left' applying the offset is as simple as offsetting by stroke-width/2, positive or negative respectively. 'inset' and 'outset' are a bit more problematic, especially for self-intersecting shapes. This figure shows how a self-intersecting pentagram would approximately look with different values of stroke-alignment if 'inset' and 'outset' are considered valid for self-intersecting paths. http://i.imgur.com/s8sLumk.png In this document I explain a procedure to stroke them, but there are some required algorithms I don't know, remarked in "Issue" boxes: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/item/6356/stroke-alignment.pdf As for the state of the implementation: * After quite a bit of time I've got to understand the classes that make Inkscape render shapes. I have been able to add the required SVG property to Inkscape. I'll commit it soon. The controls in the UI will be hidden under a compile time flag. * I've written code to outline the stroke, but also... * I've found several important bugs in half_outline() that cause it to fail even for simple shapes. For instance, this is the result of passing a triangle to half_outline() when it has been drawn counterclockwise: http://i.imgur.com/3Tq9SvZ.jpg For that specific bug I have a provisional fix, but it should be examined more closely. Regards, Juan Luis.

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Fwd: Fwd: User Help (tutorials)
by C R 26 Aug '15

26 Aug '15

Thanks for the words of encouragement. :) There should probably be some simple, brief subtitling going on to describe what's happening, since it's not always clear. For example, when using alt-scrollwheel to select objects down the object tree, the screen looks like it's going nuts, changing the opacity of things quickly, and nothing is pressed except the alt-hotkey. I made a key-board hotkey font using inkscape a while back, and will include it in the materials. It makes hotkey charts like this one very easy to do: http://opendesignstudio.org/gimp/quickref/video_hotkeys_gimp_paths_tool_scr… It would allow the making of a template for hotkey captions much easier without any need to copy/paste from large svg file full of hotkeys. :) I can leave a bit of extra space under the english subtitle to add translations. Thanks again for your thoughts and advice. -C On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...> wrote: > Hi C, > > FWIW, I would certainly like to see those videos come to life :) > > I know there are already lots and lots of Inkscape videos on youtube, > and even complete series. > > But if we had something official, that is explicitly published by the > project, has Inkscape's trademarks (the logo is CC-By-SA), is linked > from our sites, and has been reviewed by the developers (or a larger > group of users) for correctness (there are also many low-quality videos > out there), that would be really cool and helpful. > > If they are short, and don't need translation (we could have the menu > item names you click on translated in subtitles), that would be a big plus. > > Thank you for your ideas, and willingness to make them true :), > Regards, > Maren > > Am 26.08.2015 um 17:15 schrieb C R: > > Thanks for the input, Shlomi Fish. > > > > From the forums I get the impression we are looking for step-by-step > > videos more than written ones. > > Also, your tutorial leaves out the steps taken to download, install, and > > use the extension (which could be a tutorial all on it's own). > > Since there are plenty of features to go over in Inkscape without > > installing extensions for now I think I'll stick with Inkscape's core > > functionality. > > I would also argue that if enough people are interested in a feature, > > and the only way to get that feature to work correctly is to install an > > extension, then really, it should be merged into trunk before doing an > > "official" video on it. > > > > What I'm envisioning is a simple screen capture set to music, short > > videos, no more than about 60 seconds each seconds to highlight a > > feature (unless the feature requires more). > > > > Each clip can feature the same 5-second intro with the Inkscape Logo and > > tagline "Draw-freely". My initial thought: bouncing ink-droplet bounces > > in, looks both ways, then crouches down and leaps up against the white > > wall of the background, hits the wall, and spashes out into the Inkscape > > logo. The words "draw freely" will then be drawn in quickly as if by > > invisible pen (with suitably sketchy sound effect), and then fade to > > white. The effect would be a simple, clean and effective piece of > > branding that is memorable, but doesn't make the viewers crazy if they > > are watching 30 in a row. :) The white would fade directly into a > > timelapse of the clip that will be shown overlaid with the title of the > > clip (lasts about 3 seconds). That fades to the actual screencapture, > > with captioned information. Once the screencapture video is done, the > > video fades to white background again with a small Inkscape logo with > > inkscape.org <http://inkscape.org> url, and small-print "This video is > > distributed under the GPL licence" etc. > > > > Because I agree that "bullshit walks", and this likely all sounds like > > pie-in-the-sky at present... I shall make the intro, the outro and > > sammich a tutorial of the Selection Tool as the feature in between. > > > > Pending approval from the group, I will then make all materials > > available via a github archive, which can be cloned and modified, and > > maintained as any other piece of the project might be. > > > > More soon. > > > > -C > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@...2985... > > <mailto:shlomif@...2985...>> wrote: > > > > Hi C, > > > > On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:45:49 +0100 > > C R <cajhne@...400... <mailto:cajhne@...400...>> wrote: > > > > > We can tackle this on several fronts: > > > > > > 1. Feature-oriented videos to demonstrate tools. These videos would > > > accompany the documentation. I found this quite helpful to learn > > Blender 3D. > > > > > > 2. A beginner walk-through of Inkscape's user interface > > > > > > 3. A teaser/commercial with screencaptures of some of our talented > > > community of artists working on professional projects with > Inkscape. > > > > > > 4. Migration from Adobe Illustrator to Inkscape for graphics > > professionals > > > > > > 5. A short series of how-to videos demonstrating how to make some > > common > > > graphics tasks like: > > > > > > -How to make elements like vines/flourishes > > > > > > -How to use Inkscape for package design > > > > > > -How to use Inkscape for labels, barcodes, and templates > > > > > > -How to use Inkscape for product design > > > > > > -Using Inkscape to make video caption templates > > > > > > -Favourites, or most-asked-for tutorials on the forums. > > > > > > -etc. > > > > > > 6. Tips and tricks to do things quickly in Inkscape. Some of these > > things > > > aren't obvious, but highlighting features and how to use them to > > > supercharge your graphics workflow is key especially for > > production artists. > > > > > > I can do pretty much all of these, with the added bonus of using > > Blender 3D > > > as my Open Source video production software of choice. > > > > > > My only real limitation is time, but I'm happy to provide my > > graphics and > > > materials to the team so others can help by filling in the gaps > > when they > > > get time. > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > This seems like a good categorisation of what can be done. Now I > > think it's > > important that people actually start writing tutorials because "code > > talks; > > bullshit walks.". A contest may be a good idea, but people can start > > working > > before that. > > > > FWIW, I have written this tutorial-of-sorts on how I prepared a > > "Back to my > > homepage" logo in Inkscape that emulates the one used on the film > > "Back to the > > Future": > > > > http://www.shlomifish.org/art/back-to-my-homepage-2nd-ver/ > > > > I licence the final product under the Public Domain , but > > acknowledge that it > > may be subject to trademark or copyright claims by the owners of the > > Back to > > the Future franchise. I didn't assign a licence to the text of the > > tutorial > > itself, but I'm open to suggestions. > > > > I have also used Inkscape to prepare some captions images (a la > > lolcats) but > > I'm a little rusty in doing that and it may be too trivial to do. > > > > Regards, > > > > Shlomi Fish > > > > > > > -C > > > > > > On 25 Aug 2015 3:02 pm, "Alex Valavanis" <valavanisalex@...400... > > <mailto:valavanisalex@...400...>> wrote: > > > > > > > We briefly discussed the prospect of adding tutorials on a > streaming > > > > site at the Hackfest... given the size of the user community, > the ad > > > > revenue from something like YouTube could be helpful. As for who > > > > would do it, I'm not sure! > > > > > > > > AV > > > > > > > > On 25 August 2015 at 14:53, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400... > > <mailto:doctormo@...400...>> wrote: > > > > > Dear developers, > > > > > > > > > > I was reviewing inkscape on deviantArt and I noticed a theme: > > > > > > > > > > www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape > > <http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/journals/?order=5&q=inkscape> > > > > > > > > > > Apart from the odd "I hate Inkscape" etc, there's a big need > for > > > > > tutorials and most are interested in video tutorials. > > > > > > > > > > This is probably something we should put together for the > website. > > > > > Something coherent for users. > > > > > > > > > > But I'm not exactly sure of the structure we should use. A > > competition? > > > > > Scouting for talent? > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > <mailto:Inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > http://is.gd/KNvczZ - The FSF Announces New Versions of the GPL > > > > It is a good idea to stop worrying about problems (or “problems” in > > quotes) > > that cannot be fixed. > > > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - > > http://shlom.in/reply . > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >

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Video Tutorials
by Jelle Mulder 26 Aug '15

26 Aug '15

Hello All, How feasible would it be to make these video's play in a SVG framework that uses SVG text for subtitles? Translating those subtitle files would be really straightforward. Unfortunately, using SMIL is not really an option for the timing as that isn't supported by MS, so we'd have to create some js framework for that or maybe Fake smile if that would do the trick. Doing it in js would still be fairly simple by taking the text and start and end times from a txt file, but doing more complicated stuff would be more work in js. I am not sure if you can overlay SVG content on top of video content as that would be really neat, but it would be quite nice if it would be used as an SVG showcase as well. I've seen demo's with animated video content, so my gut feeling says it should be possible. Using that we could use the Icon symbols as well being displayed when something is being selected, follow the mouse pointer in a zoomed area with <use> in a clip and other sexy stuff, to create some really state of the art tutorials. The problem would probably be hosting this kind of stuff. There are about 400 Million web users here in China that cannot have a peek at Youtube without VPN and I am not sure if Inkscape.org would be up to hosting it if just 0.001% of those would take a peek at a lazy day, just after lunch. I wonder though if there is some outfit around that would be interested in hosting this kind of thing as sponsors. Apart from that, making such a showcase would also be useful for people interested in authoring SVG itself and for showing the advantage of using Inkscape for that. I could make a proof of concept for that, but considering the amount of time involved, I'd first like to know what your thoughts are on this idea. Cheers, Jelle Mulder

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