Upcoming votes
by Bryce Harrington
Hi all,
We've got several proposals in various states of discussion, which I
think would be good to bring to a vote over the coming month.
In general do you guys prefer having a bunch of different things to vote
on in one go, or to have them spaced out time-wise to permit
deliberation?
Here's the topics I'm thinking we should vote on:
a. 2013 Developer Education Book Campaign
b. Funded Development Procedure
c. Job Exceptions for Priority Projects
d. Move Inkscape Board mailing list from SourceForge to Launchpad
Anything else that'll need votes?
Bryce
9 years, 7 months
[RESULTS] Developer Education Book Campaign 2013
by Bryce Harrington
Here is the breakdown for the voting on this issue:
Josh Andler Yes
Tavmjong Bah unknown
Ted Gould Yes
Bryce Harrington Yes
Johan Engelen Yes
Tim Cole unknown
Jon Cruz unknown
With 4 yes votes we have a majority decision.
Johan, please go ahead and proceed with step #3. Once that's done, I'll
follow up with step #4.
Bryce
----- Forwarded message from Johan Engelen <jbc.engelen@...31...> -----
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:59:50 +0100
From: Johan Engelen <jbc.engelen@...31...>
To: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...2...>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-board] [REFERENDUM] Developer Education Book Campaign 2013
Hi Bruce,
I thought I had already re-voted, sorry.
I vote a. Yes
Cheers,
Johan
----- Reply message -----
From: "Bryce Harrington" <bryce@...2...>
To: "Johan Engelen" <j.b.c.engelen@...51...>
Subject: [Inkscape-board] [REFERENDUM] Developer Education Book Campaign 2013
Date: Wed, Jan 15, 2014 02:43
Btw, I need you to officially re-vote for the update so it's on record.
Bryce
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 06:29:20PM +0100, Johan Engelen wrote:
> a. YES
>
> - Johan
>
>
> On 13-1-2014 9:46, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> > A majority Board vote is required for the following proposal.
> >
> >
> > Proposal:
> >
> > 1. Purchase and distribute a programming book to the top 10 Inkscape
> > contributors for the past 12 months, as calculated by Ohloh.net:
> > http://www.ohloh.net/p/inkscape/contributors?query=&sort=commits_12_mo
> >
> > 2. The contributors can choose from one of the following books:
> > a) Effective C++, 3rd Ed.
> > by Scott Meyers
> > b) Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code
> > by Martin Fowler
> > c) A Tour of C++
> > by Bjarne Stroustrup
> >
> > 3. The campaign proposer (Johan Engelen, or their designee) will be
> > empowered to officially announce and introduce the campaign to the
> > larger community.
> >
> > 4. The board chairperson (or their designee) will be empowered to
> > i) Identify the qualified contributors as per (1), ii) Contact the
> > qualified book recipients to collect their address and choice of book
> > from (2), iii) Purchase and disseminiate the books to the provided
> > addresses, iv) Collect reimbursement from SFC for expenses incurred.
> >
> >
> > [ ] a. Yes, conduct this campaign as defined above
> > [ ] b. No, we should not conduct this campaign
> > [ ] c. Maybe, but I disagree with some definition of the campaign
> >
> >
> > Background:
> >
> > """
> > Lately, I've become obsessed with code quality. I've been reading
> > Bjourne Stroustrup's "bible" on C++11, watched all videos of the
> > "Going Native" conferences, started using clang, ..., and it has made
> > me much more aware of the language's facilities for preventing bugs. I
> > regularly browse over Inkscape's code and try to fix things I think
> > can be improved (janitorial); our source is a pretty big mess
> > I really do think Inkscape can use some love to improve logic and to
> > decrease some amount of spaghetti.
> >
> > I just saw the book "Effective C++", which I believe is a great resource
> > to inspire thought and learn how to write better code, and is meant for
> > experienced programmers. In general: how do you guys feel about
> > donating something [like this book] to our top committers for their
> > "education"? We would need some metric of what "top committers" means,
> > we could use ohloh.net's numbers.
> >
> > *For example*, we have 10 people that committed more than 50 times in
> > the past 12 months. So that'd be 10 books = 10 x 31 euro = 310 euro
> > cost --- shipping and whatnot --> 400 euro cost.
> >
> > (After we release 0.91, I will become very active in pushing for C++11
> > (i.e., upgrading our compiler dependencies to more modern versions so
> > we can start using part of C++11 features), and general maintenance /
> > refactoring / cleaning up. It's pretty rewarding I find, and very
> > low-key in terms of long-time brain-investment.)
> >
> > Johan
> > """
> >
> >
> >
> >
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9 years, 7 months
Re: [Inkscape-board] new Inkscape website (was: Re: updating DNS info for Inkscape: OSU-OSL needed)
by Bryce Harrington
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 10:49:46AM -0500, Tony Sebro wrote:
> On 12/06/2013 07:05 PM, Bryce W. Harrington wrote:
> >Thanks; I worked through OSUOSL to get the DNS changeover done. The new
> >website is live.
> >
> ...and looks great, by the way. Kudos. :) And, thanks for taking
> care of the Google Checkout request.
>
> Now that the new site is up, please let me know when you've had a
> chance to create a page for the trademark policy. Thanks!
I went ahead and created a page for this.
http://inkscape.org/en/about/trademark-policy/
When we have more policies posted we might move this elsewhere in the
site, but this will do for now.
Btw, I also set up a page listing board members, although Jon and Mental
don't have accounts yet so it's only partial. It would be good for
everyone to add a short bio, 2-3 sentences about themselves.
http://inkscape.org/en/about/board-members/
Bryce
9 years, 7 months
Inkscape Trademark Policy
by Bryce Harrington
Hi all,
One of the Inkscape Board's actions in 2013 was to establish a trademark
policy for the Inkscape name and logo. With the Software Freedom
Conservancy's help we've completed the registration and documented under
the About menu item on the website:
http://inkscape.org/en/about/trademark-policy/
The motivation for doing this was due to questions that kept cropping up
from people wanting to use it for legitimate purposes (e.g. using our
unmodified logo on merchandise), and from people noticing our trademark
used illegitimately (e.g. selling unrelated software using our name or
logo). We wanted a policy that would provide clear guidance for all
these uses, that would be liberally permissive for non-commercial and
FOSS-friendly commercial uses, while prohibiting obviously fraudulent
uses.
Along with this, I've added a FAQ entry (below) with a brief summary.
Bryce
== FAQ: How are the Inkscape name and logo protected? ==
The Inkscape name is trademarked under U.S. Trademark Law, and held and
administered by the Software Freedom Conservancy. Our policy is
available on the website, and describes the conditions under which you
can use our name and logo. We've aimed to make our requirements
reasonable and friendly: We want to avoid things like other groups
claiming to be or represent us when they don't, or to distribute our
software in ways that aren't consistent with our license.
The logo is similarly trademarked and covered by our trademark policy.
We're cool with people creating derivative works that help promote
Inkscape or make it fit in with a given user interface style, but we
don't want to see it abused by companies that might incorporate it into
their own logos. For merchandising, you are welcomed to use our
unmodified logo; for anything else, please contact the Inkscape Board
for permission.
9 years, 7 months
LGM
by Alexandre Prokoudine
Hello board,
Is there an understanding, how many developers are going to attend LGM this
year, and expenses of how many of them are going to be covered by the
Inkscape organization?
We'd appreaciate if you could give us this information, so that we had a
better understanding, where we are regarding finances.
Alexandre
9 years, 7 months
Re: [Inkscape-board] creating a page for the TM policy (was Re: new Inkscape website)
by Bryce Harrington
Ted, this was your baby - you going to set up the page, or shall I?
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 10:10:29AM -0500, Tony Sebro wrote:
> On 12/09/2013 10:49 AM, Tony Sebro wrote:
> >On 12/06/2013 07:05 PM, Bryce W. Harrington wrote:
> >>Thanks; I worked through OSUOSL to get the DNS changeover done. The new
> >>website is live.
> >>
> >...and looks great, by the way. Kudos. :) And, thanks for
> >taking care of the Google Checkout request.
> >
> >Now that the new site is up, please let me know when you've had a
> >chance to create a page for the trademark policy. Thanks!
> >
> >Best, -Tony
> >
> Hi, all; Happy New Year.
> I send this as a reminder to add a page toe the website for the
> trademark policy. I'd also advise that you add a link to the TM
> policy page in the FAQ, under the "Legal" subheading.
>
> Please let me know when you've set this up. Thanks! Best, -Tony
>
> --
> Tony Sebro, General Counsel, Software Freedom Conservancy
> +1-212-461-3245 x11
> tony@...41...
> www.sfconservancy.org
9 years, 8 months
[REFERENDUM] Developer Education Book Campaign 2013
by Bryce Harrington
A majority Board vote is required for the following proposal.
Proposal:
1. Purchase and distribute a programming book to the top 10 Inkscape
contributors for the past 12 months, as calculated by Ohloh.net:
http://www.ohloh.net/p/inkscape/contributors?query=&sort=commits_12_mo
2. The contributors can choose from one of the following books:
a) Effective C++, 3rd Ed.
by Scott Meyers
b) Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code
by Martin Fowler
c) A Tour of C++
by Bjarne Stroustrup
3. The campaign proposer (Johan Engelen, or their designee) will be
empowered to officially announce and introduce the campaign to the
larger community.
4. The board chairperson (or their designee) will be empowered to
i) Identify the qualified contributors as per (1), ii) Contact the
qualified book recipients to collect their address and choice of book
from (2), iii) Purchase and disseminiate the books to the provided
addresses, iv) Collect reimbursement from SFC for expenses incurred.
[ ] a. Yes, conduct this campaign as defined above
[ ] b. No, we should not conduct this campaign
[ ] c. Maybe, but I disagree with some definition of the campaign
Background:
"""
Lately, I've become obsessed with code quality. I've been reading
Bjourne Stroustrup's "bible" on C++11, watched all videos of the
"Going Native" conferences, started using clang, ..., and it has made
me much more aware of the language's facilities for preventing bugs. I
regularly browse over Inkscape's code and try to fix things I think
can be improved (janitorial); our source is a pretty big mess
I really do think Inkscape can use some love to improve logic and to
decrease some amount of spaghetti.
I just saw the book "Effective C++", which I believe is a great resource
to inspire thought and learn how to write better code, and is meant for
experienced programmers. In general: how do you guys feel about
donating something [like this book] to our top committers for their
"education"? We would need some metric of what "top committers" means,
we could use ohloh.net's numbers.
*For example*, we have 10 people that committed more than 50 times in
the past 12 months. So that'd be 10 books = 10 x 31 euro = 310 euro
cost --- shipping and whatnot --> 400 euro cost.
(After we release 0.91, I will become very active in pushing for C++11
(i.e., upgrading our compiler dependencies to more modern versions so
we can start using part of C++11 features), and general maintenance /
refactoring / cleaning up. It's pretty rewarding I find, and very
low-key in terms of long-time brain-investment.)
Johan
"""
9 years, 8 months
Re: [Inkscape-board] Keys and Passwords
by Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 01:56:56PM -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
> Dear Inkscape Board,
>
> See attached for kickstarter keys, feel free to update email address,
> delete account, or just save the account for some future event.
Thanks. I think we need to standardize the process for how to hold and
share keys and other authentication information. But I don't know how
to best handle this. I've asked Kees Cook for advice on best practices.
If anyone else knows how other projects do this, do share.
> The DNS request for inkscape.org should include a webadmin@...66...
> redirect and maybe a board@...66... address to contact the board
> when needed (if not already setup).
Use inkscape-board(a)lists.sourceforge.net, but ideally the board should
only very rarely need to be contacted.
> Let me know if you'd like one of these osl servers to handle that sort
> of thing or if you have something setup already.
For webadmin@...66..., I think you can set up redirects through OSL
as you see fit. (If anyone disagrees, chime in now...)
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
> inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
> lx.LI.v/50mFA
9 years, 8 months
Developer education
by Johan Engelen
Hi all,
Lately, I've become obsessed with code quality. I've been reading
Bjourne Stroustrup's "bible" on C++11, watched all videos of the "Going
Native" conferences, started using clang, ..., and it has made me much
more aware of the language's facilities for preventing bugs. I regularly
browse over Inkscape's code and try to fix things I think can be
improved (janitorial); our source is a pretty big mess
I really do think Inkscape can use some love to improve logic and to
decrease some amount of spaghetti.
I just saw the book "Effective C++", which I believe is a great resource
to inspire thought and learn how to write better code, and is meant for
experienced programmers. How do you guys feel about donating this book
to our top committers? (if you feel this is too egoistic of me, *I* will
pay for my own copy myself, no worries, and pass my copy on to the dev
that was just below the cut-off point).
In general: how do you guys feel about donating something to our top
committers for their "education"?
We would need some metric of what "top committers" means, we could use
ohloh.net's numbers.
*For example*, we have 10 people that committed more than 50 times in
the past 12 months. So that'd be 10 books = 10 x 31 euro = 310 euro cost
--- shipping and whatnot --> 400 euro cost.
What do you think?
Cheers,
Johan
(After we release 0.91, I will become very active in pushing for C++11
(i.e., upgrading our compiler dependencies to more modern versions so we
can start using part of C++11 features), and general maintenance /
refactoring / cleaning up. It's pretty rewarding I find, and very
low-key in terms of long-time brain-investment.)
9 years, 8 months
Proposal for fundraising and funded development process (Was Re: RedHat Question)
by Bryce Harrington
[Forwarding thread to the board mailing list. Dropping CC of board
members since they're already on the list alias.]
We've talked about fundraisers and funded development in the past. For
me the sticking point is always, "Who's going to handle running the
fundraiser, and then judging whether the work was adequately done?"
So, I did a bit of brainstorming using Krzysztof's task rule as a
starting point, tacking on the thoughts I mentioned earlier, and
fleshing out how the fundraising and administration end of things could
be done.
My goal here is to get us to a point where the board doesn't have to be
intimately involved in specific jobs and fundraisers, but can just sign
off on an official policy for how they should be handled in general, and
then let the work happen organically.
Please read this over and throw darts. I have several questions that
I'd want to see answers for before putting this up for a vote, so do
please chime in with your opinions and thoughts.
Bryce
------------------------------------------------------------------------
We maintain a listing of proposed projects. Projects can be proposed by
anyone in the Inkscape AUTHORS file. Anything can be proposed,
including feature development, bug triaging, documentation,
administration, etc. It must have a defined deliverable and acceptance
criteria identified, and a time limit for how long the work should take.
Initially these are all made available for volunteers to do freely.
When GSoC rolls around we use them as suggested projects for students to
undertake.
Any project that remains on the list unfinished for 6 months becomes
eligible for funding the work. (This is so that any proposed projects
that are fun or easy get done by volunteers, and money can be focused on
harder unsexy work, and to make abuse harder.) We'll call these
eligible projects 'jobs'.
Meanwhile, we run official fundraisers, that have the goal of getting
donations for these jobs. Each of these has a named person serving as
that fundraiser's coordinator who handles all administrative manners for
the duration of the campaign. It is up to this coordinator's discretion
how to distribute the raised money at the completion of the fundraiser,
however: a) all funds must be directed only to jobs in the list, and
b) no single job can receive more than 25% of the raised funds.
For ongoing fundraisers, the coordinator responsible for setting it up
can specify the distribution programmatically (e.g. "distribute evenly
to the four oldest jobs in the list", or "10% each to each to the ten
jobs with the highest funding", or "allocated evenly across all
documentation jobs". The coordinator will remain responsible for
administrative duties for the length of the fundraiser; if they choose
to step down, the fundraiser is terminated (but another coordinator can
start up an equivalent to replace it, under their own funding
distribution preferences).
The money from these fundraisers goes to the Inkscape Foundation account
administered by the Software Conservancy, who takes a small percentage
of each donation. All donations are tax deductable. We maintain a list
of allocations-to-jobs so we can keep track of what money "belongs" to
which job, so the correct amount is paid when the job is done.
Anyone in the Inkscape AUTHORS file can sign up for one of the jobs.
When they assign themselves the job, the clock starts ticking. During
the time limit, no one else can sign up to do the same job. When the
time runs out and the job is not completed, the assignee doesn't receive
the reward and can't attempt the same job again for 6 months. The job
is considered completed when the identified deliverables are delivered
according to the specified criteria.
Open Questions:
* Should fundraiser coordinators get remuneration of some sort, or is
the ability to direct the funds they raise a sufficient reward?
* Who decides when a given job is "complete"? Do we need to have a
separate reviewer role identified (analogous to GSoC mentor)?
Should that person get some form of remuneration too? Should the
role be interactive with the job performer, or an anonymous
pass/fail?
* Should jobs 'expire' after some period of time, with any allocated
funds being freed up for other jobs and/or returned to the general
fund?
* How do we prune out jobs that become irrelevant?
* What if someone (or multiple someones) handles the job without
signing up for it?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:40:18PM +0100, Krzysztof Kosiński wrote:
> Hello all
>
> Chiming in with a slight delay. It would be awesome if we could get
> that funding.
>
> If we want to use the money to fund people working on specific
> features or maintenance tasks, I could help outline the goals for
> that, and probably also do some of the tasks myself if I have the
> time.
>
> If RedHat were to provide recurring contributions, we could set up a
> program where performing a well defined coding task in a specified
> time limit is rewarded with money. The crucial difference between this
> and GSoC would be that we could use our program to pay people doing
> boring maintenance tasks such as removing deprecated functions and
> writing better documentation.
>
> When it comes to rules, I would imagine something like this: Any
> existing committer could sign up to do one of the tasks, and the clock
> would start ticking. During the specified time limit, no one else can
> sign up to do the same task. When the time runs out and the task is
> not completed, the committer who signed up doesn't receive the reward
> and can't attempt the same task again for e.g. one year.
>
> Regards, Krzysztof
>
> 2013/12/10 Tavmjong Bah <tavmjong@...47...>:
> > On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:38 -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
> >> Hey Guys,
> >>
> >> More discussion with Máirín (mo) at RedHat. See below.
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:18 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> >> > Okay, and are you guys going to be paying someone to develop the
> >> > features you're looking at? Are you doing it through a program or as a
> >> > one-off kind of thing?
> >>
> >> I think this is something the board should talk about. I know it
> >> entirely depends on the amount of funds and the scale of participation.
> >> But it might be worth having a couple of levels of 'we wish we could do
> >> this if we had this amount of funding'
> >>
> >> And should it be a program? The Inkscape-Equivalence program. Donate the
> >> same amount per year as you would pay for Illustrator to help the
> >> inkscape project development.?
> >>
> >
> > I like the idea of the "Inkscape-Equivalence' program. I think we should
> > make it a permanent program. Do other groups do this?
> >
> > Tav
> >
> >
> >
> >
9 years, 8 months
