Splitting into a separate thread for readability. (please don't add things to this thread)
It seems that folks want to have a meeting with the SFC to get some advice. I'm happy to facilitate that. But, I'm unsure of what advice we're looking for and what to say we want from the meeting (help me write the email).
Dear SFC, We'd like to have a meeting and get your advice on:
<replace this text in reply> 😄
I'm traveling next week, but I should have access to email. So, let's say on Wednesday (June 23rd) I will combine all the replies and request a meeting with the SFC based on those.
Dear Inkscape Committee,
After our detailed discussion with Karen and Pono, it's becoming more
clear that we should be running Committee Meetings via a video chat
service. There is a great need to have more discussion, debate and
decision making process at specified times and places outside of this
mailing list and I believe that the SFC's suggestion of using their big
blue button server is actually their gentle hint that running a higher
bandwidth meeting would benefit the project greatly.
I propose that we start running committee meetings. This meeting would
be a distinct and different event from the existing status update
event, where activate items have their updates relayed to the rest of
the project. But would instead focus on many of the processes,
problems, activities and votes which are involved in being a
responsible committee for the Inkscape project.
To kick off this series of meetings, I'd like to invite Pono to chair
the first meeting. The hope here is that the SFC can instruct us on the
right way to conduct a more structured and productive meeting via video
chat and then from there on we would conduct meetings monthly, with
reports and recordings to the mailing list. Using this as a template.
Should this idea meet with general approval from the rest of the board,
Ted would contact the SFC to formally request a suitable date and time
which the SFC would be available to offer this initial meeting and when
the majority of the current comittee members would be available. The
agenta would focus on reviewing the basics of meeting operation and our
questions to the SFC about running ourselves better.
I believe having this meeting structure is essential before we can
conduct much of the rest of the business for Inkscpe we must have a
decision making process which is more attentive than the current
mailing list approach where I don't believe proper quorum can be
achieved which raises doubts bout the legitimacy of the decisions we
A vote will follow after period for comments.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
The next steps for the budgeting for macOS speed improvements is a
vote. I didn't see any objections from the board about the developer
team proposal to spend $5k on contracting with someone to analyse the
speed problems in macOS and give us a report. This is an exploratory
I'll post a board vote by the end of the week if there's no objections
in the meantime.
Best Regrds, Martin Owens
Thanks for chasing this up Maren,
Feedback from these sources should be taken into account:
* Facebook - A poll of over a hundred Inkscape users indicates an
extremely strong desire for CMYK and general print support. With users
indicating that they are using many proprietary tools as workarounds,
even when they like Inkscape's other workflows. Full report from Chris
Rogers coming soon.
* Other FOSS projects - I've had a few conversations with some other
people who work in places like Fedora. There's a strong desire to have
CMYK and proper print handling amongst our wider Free Software
community which is not being handled by our current setup with Scribus.
* Other - Other discussions on twitter, rocket chat and elsewhere have
indicated an extremely large desire to have CMYK support.
So far, very few people have indicated that they would rather Inkscape
work on some other feature. This seems to be the mass majority and also
a thing which significantly effects people's use of Inkscape.
I'm going to raise the prospect of putting a $20k grant into CMYK and
print features. We can discuss if this is too much or too little at the
next meeting (this weekend) and work from there.
* macOS speed problems (est $5k)
* CMYK print functionality (spitball $20k)
* General project administrator position (undefined, probably a lot)
Please come to the meeting if you would like to talk about this
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Thu, 2021-06-03 at 15:21 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote:
> Hi again,
> I received a reply from Bryce, allowing us to build upon the work he
> already done in the mentioned file (as long as he's credited as the
> original author of it, with the same license as Inkscape, which
> to the Wiki content anyway). Thank you, Bryce!
> So I've just (reformatted it and) added it to our Wiki, you can find
> it at
> Am 26.05.21 um 15:03 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
> > Hi all,
> > someone has sent me a copy of the mentioned print.md file privately
> > (which is extensive good documentation with the necessary tasks all
> > laid
> > out that could save us weeks), but I'm unsure whether it's okay to
> > share
> > it here, as Bryce has removed it from the web, along with his
> > complete
> > website (which may have been intentional or not).
> > Bryce, if you read this - do we have permission to use your CMYK
> > writeup?
> > Maren
> > Am 24.05.21 um 15:39 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
> > > There's also the discussion with requirements we had already
> > > talked about:
> > >
> > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/-/issues/45
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, Bryce has removed the writeup from his website,
> > > and
> > > archive.org doesn't have it, either...
> > > (http://www.bryceharrington.org/print.md).
> > >
> > > Maren
> > >
> > > Am 24.05.21 um 15:08 schrieb Martin Owens:
> > > > On Mon, 2021-05-24 at 13:58 +0100, John Cliff wrote:
> > > > > * I'd definitely support Tavs push for CMYK support, its got
> > > > > to be
> > > > > one of the most common questions we've had from users about
> > > > > capability for years. Its also one of the stumbling blocks to
> > > > > being
> > > > > more useful in serious print type jobs.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks John,
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking for someone who could gather a list of users who
> > > > have
> > > > requested CMYK (or similar) and ask them about what they want.
> > > > Specifically the difference between producing pdfs with named
> > > > colours,
> > > > or just saving cmyk values in the svg (very different
> > > > problems).
> > > >
> > > > Would you be available to gather more information from our
> > > > users to
> > > > solidify a case for investing in it? Maybe Tav can help too,
> > > > but as
> > > > volunteers we're always somewhat busy.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards, Martin Owens
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