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Open Clip Art Library Release 0.09 Announcement :: http://www.openclipart.org
by Jon Phillips 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

*PLEASE FORWARD* Open Clip Art Library Release 0.09 Announcement http://www.openclipart.org Release 0.09 of the Open Clip Art Library is now available for download on the site as an individual package: http://www.openclipart.org/downloads/openclipart-0.09.tar.gz http://www.openclipart.org/downloads/openclipart-0.09.zip This new package is 20MB and contains 3104 unique user-submitted files, an increase from previous releases. The Open Clip Art Library is also browsable at www.openclipart.org where one might find specific clip art by searching through categories such as animals, education, transportation, or geography. Thank you to everyone who sent encouraging e-mails while the Open Clip Art Library's hosting project, freedesktop.org, underwent necessary maintenance due to a server break-in. freedesktop.org now has a much stronger server management system in place and our services are now completely back on-line from the incident. This intermittent downtime caused our developers to consider mirroring strategies. If you have any server space available and would like to host a mirror, please e-mail our mailing list. In the end, these events bolster an open source project and make it much stronger. To start the new year right, we decided to restart our montly release cycle, and begin to focus our attention to the project roadmap (http://openclipart.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Roadmap). For the upcoming 0.10 release, we encourage submission of Valentine's Day themed artwork, to help users with their love life. Behind the scenes, we will be integrating Bryce Harrington's Document Management System (DMS) to mediate the submissions we receive. DMS is a real breakthrough in document management, which is akin to source code management (CVS, SVN, etc), but for everyday practical group projects, versioning, and collaboration using various file formats. Our core developers have also been discussing a few different sub-projects such as adding support to our services for Font submissions (http://openclipart.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Open_Font_Library) and also a way to auto-generate greeting cards (http://openclipart.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Greeting_Cards). Please add your comments to the aforementioned wiki pages and help us realize these ideas in the coming year! If you are interested in this project, please join our mailing list (http://freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart), check out the roadmap (http://openclipart.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Roadmap), and continue to submit your clip art! As the new year starts we are hoping to attract new developers and artists to work on the project. Happy New Year! Visit the Library at http://www.openclipart.org/

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] proposed change to icons (fwd)
by Bryce Harrington 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:39:50 -0800 From: Kees Cook <inkscape@...334...> To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] proposed change to icons On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 11:40:13AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote: > all the remaining pixmaps replaced. Here's the current list that I know > of for pixmaps that are still in use: Correction, that was the list of those still getting _loaded_, but most were not in use. Here, I think is the current list. I've removed all the unused ones from the build. The fill* ones confuse me since the buttons in the dialog appear to be from the SVG doc, but they're still getting loaded in code. Weird. add_xml_element_node.xpm \ add_xml_text_node.xpm \ arrows_hor.xpm \ arrows_ver.xpm \ cap_butt.xpm \ cap_round.xpm \ cap_square.xpm \ delete_xml_attribute.xpm \ delete_xml_node.xpm \ dimension_hor.xpm \ duplicate_xml_node.xpm \ fill_fractal.xpm \ fill_gradient.xpm \ fill_none.xpm \ fill_pattern.xpm \ fill_radial.xpm \ fill_solid.xpm \ join_bevel.xpm \ join_miter.xpm \ join_round.xpm \ properties_fill.xpm \ properties_layout.xpm \ properties_stroke.xpm \ rotate_left.xpm \ scale_hor.xpm \ scale_ver.xpm \ set.xpm \ writing_mode_lr.xpm \ writing_mode_tb.xpm \ -- Kees Cook @outflux.net ------------------------------------------------------- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almost....http://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] proposed change to icons (fwd)
by Bryce Harrington 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:40:13 -0800 From: Kees Cook <inkscape@...334...> To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] proposed change to icons On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 03:14:35PM +0000, Ben Crowell wrote: > I've committed changes to eight of the icons (rotate, flip, raise, > and lower), and that's all the changes I want to make. Before we get to far replacing icons, I think we should focus on getting all the remaining pixmaps replaced. Here's the current list that I know of for pixmaps that are still in use: join_miter.xpm join_round.xpm join_bevel.xpm cap_butt.xpm cap_round.xpm cap_square.xpm marker_none_start.xpm marker_triangle_start.xpm marker_arrow_start.xpm marker_none_start.xpm marker_triangle_end.xpm marker_arrow_end.xpm marker_none_end.xpm marker_triangle_end.xpm marker_arrow_end.xpm rotate_left.xpm scale_hor.xpm scale_ver.xpm arrows_hor.xpm arrows_ver.xpm dimension_hor.xpm writing_mode_lr.xpm writing_mode_tb.xpm add_xml_element_node.xpm add_xml_text_node.xpm duplicate_xml_node.xpm delete_xml_node.xpm delete_xml_attribute.xpm set.xpm fill_none.xpm fill_solid.xpm fill_gradient.xpm fill_radial.xpm fill_pattern.xpm fill_fractal.xpm toolbox_file.xpm toolbox_edit.xpm toolbox_object.xpm toolbox_select.xpm toolbox_draw.xpm toolbox_zoom.xpm toolbox_node.xpm edit_duplicate.xpm selection_top.xpm selection_bot.xpm selection_up.xpm selection_down.xpm selection_group.xpm selection_ungroup.xpm selection_combine.xpm selection_break.xpm object_rotate.xpm object_reset.xpm object_tocurve.xpm draw_select.xpm draw_node.xpm draw_rect.xpm draw_arc.xpm draw_star.xpm draw_spiral.xpm draw_freehand.xpm draw_pen.xpm draw_dynahand.xpm draw_text.xpm draw_zoom.xpm zoom_in.xpm zoom_out.xpm zoom_page.xpm zoom_draw.xpm zoom_select.xpm object_layout.xpm object_trans.xpm object_align.xpm -- Kees Cook @outflux.net ------------------------------------------------------- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almost....http://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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RE: Inkscape UI interface
by Jiaxiang 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

Sorry about that. Here's the image: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/Inkscape-mockup-inteface.png __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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CFV: Update Inkscape FAQ
by Bryce Harrington 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

Here's another Call for Volunteers... The Inkscape FAQ is pretty good, but it's been a long time since someone did a thorough review of it and brought it up to date. We need someone who is reasonably knowledgeable about Inkscape to go through it and bring it a little more up to date. I think it probably also ought to have a table of contents with links to the Q's... 1. Save this webpage to your disk: http://inkscape.org/faq.php 2. Open it in a text editor 3. Review/revise each question 4. Add new questions you think are worth putting in 5. Remove any questions that are obsolete 6. Post your results here for a web guy to put on the site If you already have access for updating the Inkscape site, feel free to commit and update directly. Bryce

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CFV: Inkscape Examples Webpages
by Bryce Harrington 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

Hi all, Felix made a good suggestion to start posting some 'Call For Volunteers' on tasks that new folks would find straightforward to work on. Here's the first. A while back I started an 'Inkscape Examples' section on our website. We've got a couple things posted, but it's been largely neglected. We need a volunteer to take charge of beefing this section of the website up. This task requires good HTML skills (PHP helps too). No Inkscape development knowledge is needed. Art/design talents will also be pretty important. The purpose of the Inkscape Examples site is to show off different _ways_ Inkscape is used. It's needs to go beyond just showing off new features (we use the Screenshots page for that), but must be complete works. It's not intended to be simply a place for users to post their work (we have a Gallery section, plus OCAL and Deviant art for that), but rather to provide _one_ example of different _type_ of use. It's not intended to teach people how to use Inkscape (we have the Tutorials for that), but more to inspire and entice people into using Inkscape in new ways. Ideally, the site should have a listing of different types of things that can be made with Inkscape, with each having a link to a set of pages describing that thing. (Sort of like a woodworking magazine article showing how to build a cabinet.) For example: * Web site design * CD booklet * Portrait * Presentation * Cross-stitch pattern * Icon set * Landscape design * Org chart * Company logo * etc. Also, there could be examples of different art "styles". For instance, creating 'distressed' art like Brisgeek is into right now, or using the Trace Bitmap feature to artify a photo, or creating three dimensional effects via spherical gradients. "Presentations" could have a link to a page containing an example presentation that someone made, a set of steps for how the user created their presentation, problems/solutions encountered, and the source files for review. Sort of like an article in a woodworking magazine explaining how the author built a table. I think this effort could be done by just collecting examples of work other users have done and posted, interviewing the creator, and writing it up into a decent example, and putting it onto the website. I'd bet, if done well, you could also get it published in an online magazine like OS News. If you want to work on this, your first step will be to go ahead and put together an example of something, and post it here. We will also need someone to take care of editing/reviewing examples and posting them into the website, so if you're interested in doing that, send me your SourceForge ID. Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-user] proposed change to icons
by Ben Crowell 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

After posting on inkscape-user and increasing the sample size, it seems to me that there is a clear consensus in favor of the new style. Bulia wrote: >There's no need to argue. Ben, you can continue working on the new >icon set, and when you are ready we will ship your icons.svg alongside >the old one, so people can choose whichever they like. Trent, the same >for you: you are welcome to develop a set of icons that work best for >your black background, and we'll ship them also. When there's at least >one complete set besides the old one, we can make a preference with a >UI to choose one of them on load. The real issue is whose icons will be the defaults. Since most people seem to like mine better than yours, I think mine should be the defaults. I would like to request a clear decision on this from the core developers before I invest a lot more time on the icons.

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proposed change to icons
by Ben Crowell 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

On inkscape-devel, I've proposed some changes to some of Bulia's icons. Some people seemed to like the new versions better, and some didn't. We didn't seem to have a statistically significant sample of opinions, so I'm reposting now to both inkscape-devel and inkscape-user. I've made some changes to the icons in the copy of Inkscape I have running on my own machine. If other people agree that this is an improvement, I'll do some more work in the same style. Here is a screenshot: http://www.lightandmatter.com/proposal.png The rotation and flip tools are my new versions, and next to them you can see the lower and raise icons in the original style, with the greenish-yellow color. My idea here was to tone down the colors a little, and also use transparency to create more of a visual impression of the object rotating. It's meant to look like the new Gimp 2.0 icons, which IMO are very professional looking. The svg from which the icons were constructed is here: http://www.lightandmatter.com/icons.svg Please give an on-list opinion in binary, 0=don't change, 1=change. (The icons can be tweaked more later, of course, if there is a consensus for it.)

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Newsforge Inkscape article (fwd)
by Bryce Harrington 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:16:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jiaxiang <jwasheville@...12...> To: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...69...> Subject: Newsforge Inkscape article Good day, Bryce. Did you catch this article about Inkscape on Newsforge.com? http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/12/23/1638201 -Joshua __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Re: [Inkscape-user] proposed change to icons
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Re [22]
by Enid Kirk 29 Dec '04

29 Dec '04

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is there any way to put math symbols (symbol font) on a picture?
by Duncan Haldane 28 Dec '04

28 Dec '04

Hi I'm experimenting with inkscape for drawing figures for a scientific paper (physics, where lots of greek letters and math symbols are used to label things) The final desired form is pdf: I'm exporting from inkscape svg to eps, then converting to pdf with the Mac OS X "preview" application. Is there any hack or workaround to get inkscape to use a characters from a math symbol font? (It seems to recognize things line "wingdings", not just roman characters) Thanks for any suggestions.

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Inkscape 0.51
by Bryce Harrington 27 Dec '04

27 Dec '04

Hi guys, Just fyi, we're thinking of targeting a 0.41 release for the late Jan, early Feb. We're thinking of focusing on making it a bugfix release plus a few new features. We've got several changes in the works that will introduce some instability for a while, so we figure it would be best to get another release out before we get too far into those big changes. Bryce

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numerical skew
by Trent Buck 26 Dec '04

26 Dec '04

The transform dialog offers moving, scaling and rotating. How does one apply a skew of X% (e.g. 25%)? I am using a CVS build from yesterday. -- -trent <foo> Oh fuck, the power just went off. <foo> uh... <foo> Boy does this seem wrong.

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Error to XML Editor
by Valentin Cristescu 25 Dec '04

25 Dec '04

Hi, I can't start the XML Editor. The message is: Inskcape encountered an internal error and will close now. I'm using Fedora Core 3.

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Feature request: Themable icons
by Andrew Conkling 24 Dec '04

24 Dec '04

It would be nice if the icons in the menus and such were themable; I've been making changes to the global icons.svg, but I'd like to put it in ~/.inkscape/ to affect a user-only change. Any chance on doing something like this as-is, or eventually making it possible? Thanks, Andrew

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Win32 Latest-Exe
by vellum 24 Dec '04

24 Dec '04

Hi Bob, Any chance of an updated win32 LATEST-EXE.ZIP before christmas? There do not appear to have been any available since the 15th, and I'm suffering withdrawal pangs. Also can I take this opportunity to wish all developers, testers and users the very best of Seasons Greetings and may 2005 bring you all back refreshed and rar'in to go! vellum

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Non-coder tasks
by Bryce Harrington 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

Today a question came up regarding how non-coders can help improve Inkscape. This info has been added to the Inkscape FAQ, under 'Are there non-coding ways to help?': http://www.inkscape.org/faq.php Let me know if you have other ideas we could list there. Bryce

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Segmentation fault when ungrouping
by Frankie Y. Liu 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

Hello I am running version .40 of inkscape under SuSE9.1 linux. I got a segmentation fault when trying to do the following: 1) I opened the help page Help/Keys and Mouse 2) I opened another window (letter size): File/New/letter 3) I copied the second column (Canvas) to the new window 4) I tried to ungroup that column with Ctrl+Shift+G 5) I got a segmentation fault -frankie

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Disabling alt+click alt+drag in linux (Selection Under)
by Frankie Y. Liu 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

Hello, I wanted to get Selection Under working, but alt+click seems to be grabbed by my window manager to drag the window. I am running fluxbox under SuSE9.1 linux. I tried to google disabling alt+click and alt+drag under linux, but I haven't found any relevant page that tells me how to do so. Thanks, -frankie

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Inkscape .4 segfault
by Robert Davis 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

Been getting a segfault starting inkscape .4 and also tried a pre .4 that ran fine back in Oct. Using strace I traced it to icons.svg. Rename it and it runs fine. Any idea what might be wrong. Thanks Robert Davis system: Gentoo ~x86 backtrace: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 12092)] 0x0812cf67 in sigc::internal::signal_emit2<void, SPObject*, SPObject*, sigc::nil>::emit (impl=0x84321e8, _A_a1=@0xbfffe89c, _A_a2=@0x8432258) at slot_base.h:263 263 { return (!rep_ || !rep_->call_); } (gdb) bt #0 0x0812cf67 in sigc::internal::signal_emit2<void, SPObject*, SPObject*, sigc::nil>::emit (impl=0x84321e8, _A_a1=@0xbfffe89c, _A_a2=@0x8432258) at slot_base.h:263 #1 0x0812ca63 in Inkscape::URIReference::_setObject (this=0x8432248, obj=0x0) at signal.h:1806 #2 0x0812c7db in Inkscape::URIReference::attach (this=0x8432248, uri=@0x8432254) at uri-references.cpp:78 #3 0x080ec5db in sp_gradient_set (object=0x8432370, key=8, value=0x8420e88 "#linearGradient800") at sp-gradient.cpp:389 #4 0x080eec44 in sp_lineargradient_set (object=0x8432370, key=8, value=0x8420e88 "#linearGradient800") at sp-gradient.cpp:1157 #5 0x081012c4 in sp_object_set (object=0x8432370, key=24, value=0x18 <Address 0x18 out of bounds>) at sp-object.cpp:790 #6 0x081013d8 in sp_object_read_attr (object=0x8432370, key=0x82ab05a "xlink:href") at sp-object.cpp:811 #7 0x080ec39e in sp_gradient_build (object=0x8432370, document=0x83b1b80, repr=0x0) at sp-gradient.cpp:296 #8 0x080eebd3 in sp_lineargradient_build (object=0x8432370, document=0x84321f0, repr=0x8432288) at sp-gradient.cpp:1117 #9 0x08100a52 in sp_object_invoke_build (object=0x8432370, document=0x83b1b80, repr=0x8421780, cloned=0) at sp-object.cpp:642 #10 0x08100909 in sp_object_build (object=0x83aee08, document=0x83b1b80, repr=0x18) at sp-object.cpp:589 #11 0x08100a52 in sp_object_invoke_build (object=0x83aee08, document=0x83b1b80, repr=0x8419880, cloned=0) at sp-object.cpp:642 #12 0x08100909 in sp_object_build (object=0x83a40f0, document=0x83b1b80, repr=0x18) at sp-object.cpp:589 #13 0x080f6e9a in sp_item_build (object=0x83a40f0, document=0x18, repr=0x18) at sp-item.cpp:301 #14 0x080f3b55 in sp_group_build (object=0x83a40f0, document=0x18, repr=0x18) at sp-item-group.cpp:124 #15 0x0810c8a0 in sp_root_build (object=0x83a40f0, document=0x18, repr=0x84198c0) at sp-root.cpp:167 #16 0x08100a52 in sp_object_invoke_build (object=0x83a40f0, document=0x83b1b80, repr=0x84198c0, cloned=0) at sp-object.cpp:642 #17 0x080feefa in sp_object_repr_build_tree (document=0x83b1b80, repr=0x84198c0) at sp-object-repr.cpp:70 #18 0x080ca155 in sp_document_create (rdoc=0x0, uri=0x842c5e8 "/usr/local/share/inkscape/icons/icons.svg", base=0x84359f8 "/usr/local/share/inkscape/icons/", name=0x18 <Address 0x18 out of bounds>, advertize=0, keepalive=0) at document.cpp:289 #19 0x080ca779 in sp_document_new (uri=0x842c5e8 "/usr/local/share/inkscape/icons/icons.svg", advertize=24, keepalive=24, make_new=false) at document.cpp:434 #20 0x081e4e56 in sp_icon_image_load_svg (name=0x18 <Address 0x18 out of bounds>, size=10, scale=10) at icon.cpp:369 #21 0x081e4238 in sp_icon_image_load (name=0x842aca0 "sticky_zoom", size=10, scale=10) at icon.cpp:214 #22 0x081e403e in sp_icon_new_full (size=10, scale=10, name=0x842aca0 "sticky_zoom") at icon.cpp:158 #23 0x081e413c in sp_icon_new (size=24, name=0x8432288 "\uffff!C\b \uffff!C\b\2203C\b") at icon.cpp:185 #24 0x081e0fc1 in sp_button_set_action (button=0x842b688, action=0x841bfc0) at button.cpp:253 #25 0x081e0db1 in sp_button_new (size=10, type=24, action=0x18, doubleclick_action=0x0, tooltips=0x83ba060) at button.cpp:204 #26 0x081e1208 in sp_button_new_from_data (size=24, type=24, view=0x18, name=0x8432288 "\uffff!C\b\uffff!C\b\2203C\b", tip=0x18 <Address 0x18 out of bounds>, tooltips=0x18) at button.cpp:329 #27 0x0813dc94 in sp_desktop_widget_init (dtw=0x83b6bb0) at desktop.cpp:906 #28 0x40aaa025 in g_type_create_instance () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 #29 0x000001ac in ?? ()

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Build errors in CVS
by Trent Buck 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

I just tried to build Inkscape from CVS for the first time in a couple of weeks. I noticed the following Debian-specific problems: - AFAICT, python-dev and libperl-dev are now build dependencies; they should be added to the Build-Depends line in debian/control. - After building, dh_strip attempts to strip an ar archive, causing packaging to fail. From the build log: $ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [...] dh_installmime dh_link dh_strip strip: debian/inkscape/usr/lib/inkscape/plugins/stcstnTn/DynaLoader.a: Invalid operation dh_strip: command returned error code 256 make[2]: *** [binary-arch] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/alt/foo/pkg/cvs/inkscape/WORKING/inkscape' make[1]: *** [buildpackage] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/alt/foo/pkg/cvs/inkscape/WORKING/inkscape' -- -trent Look -- a diversion! It's shiny! -- Daniel Stone

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outputting gradients
by Ben Crowell 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

>Gradients without transparency are doable in PS level 3, but we output >only level 2 so far. Fixing this would require an expert in PS because >level 3 differs significantly from previous levels. However, I don't >think it's worth the trouble, because transparency is not possible >even in level 3. It is however possible in PDF starting from version >1.4, so we better spend the same resources on supporting PDF instead. >For now, the best alternative that I know of is to import Inkscape SVG >into Scribus and save as PDF 1.4. Thanks for the rapid reply! Scribus actually didn't work on the example I tried. It didn't render the gradients correctly, and it also munged the fonts I was using (made Vera into a monospaced font). I guess I can render everything as png instead of pdf. (Pdftex can accept either as input.) Is anybody working actively on direct PDF output? The inability to output gradients to PS or PDF is a serious limitation that will probably be enough to prevent an awful lot of users from using Inkscape. Maybe my perceptions and priorities are different from other people's but it surprises me that people would be working on, e.g., Perl and Python extensions when a really basic feature like this is not yet implemented. Maybe it's just the nature of OSS: developers want to work on stuff that interests them personally, so that determines which features get added.

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Satisfied user
by Alan Horkan 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

Thought I'd share this comment from a new satisfied Inkscape user: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=133308&cid=11135973

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Textbox
by Imre Vida 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

Hi i've only recently discovered Inkscape and found it very promising. However, there is a feature that i miss a lot: the possility to define a frame for text with 1) dynamic line wrapping and 2) "local" formating options (e.g to mix various types of fonts, to use bold, italic, superscripts, subscripts in the text etc.). I have looked at the list of requested features and i found several related entries (e.g. 863325, 1084658 and 1080623) some of them dating back to last year. But there seems to be very little response to these requests. Without this feature inkscape is not a real alternative for me, unfortunately. Do you plan to implement such a feature? thanks imre

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-users -developers test please ignore
by vellum 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

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test ignore
by vellum 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

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Re: applying a common style Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Font size after scaling?
by vellum 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

vellum said: > On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:11:16 +1100, vellum <kaver@...45...> wrote: > > However, with non-uniform scaling all hell breaks loose. > > First. Scaling vertically changes the font size as I would expect. However > > if I then try to change the font size to the original size then the font > > dialog font size is correct but the screen presentation is not. bulia said: > Yes, because non-uniform scaling cannot be expressed via font size > change. Thus it is factored into two parts, as I explained. When you > reset font size to original, you remove only the uniform component of > the scale; the non-uniform one remains. I think this is logical. ... > So, can you just explain the final result you're trying to achieve? 1. I want to be able to turn a piece of text that has been scaled uniformly or non-uniformly, back to its original state. ie. as it was written. OK. Your changes allow this to be done with uniformly scaled text. So my original problem is solved. However, I do not understand what is happening with non-uniform scaling, and it worries me that it simply may be giving the wrong result. The simplest case is where the text is stretched or compressed with no vertical change. The present code changes the font size. Why? I just cannot find anywhere that this is the correct result. As far as I can see the font size should be the same after as before. XaraX1 operates in the way that I see as correct. It shows two windows for a text object. 1. The font size. 2. The Aspect Ratio which is Width/Height as a percentage. The AR is 100.00 for any font size as initially written. With non-uniform scaling. The new font size is shown and the AR goes >100 or <100% depending on the scaling. When a piece of text is reselected the new AR and the font size are shown. It is straightforward to set the AR to 100 and the font size to your original font size and you get the original sized text back. Inkscape cannot not do this. With horizontal stretching or compressing. With Xarax1 there is no change in font size no matter how much the text width is changed. This is consistent with font size based on letter height. With Inkscape the font size changes with the text width. I think this is wrong. I do not know the details of what the programs are doing but Xarax seems consistent with > > David Bergs idea of "A button "set as 100%" for height and width will then > > adjust the font-size according to the skewed/streched width or the height > > respectively. I think this way all needs are served ;)" seems like a good > > one. Perhaps this could also go in the font dialog ultimately. I would leave skewed text further down the priority list since I ceratinly do not use it routinely and nobody else has chimed in with this as a need or problem. If I can get non-uniform scaling sorted I'll be happy. > > P.S. Perhaps you noticed the bug: the font size reported in the > statusbar in selector for a text object is wrong (unchanged) after > scale. This is completely unrelated to the above discussion. Just > deselect and reselect it again to see the correct font size. yes. vellum

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outputting gradients
by Ben Crowell 19 Dec '04

19 Dec '04

Bulia wrote: >Personally, I would much prefer to have standard system-wide >high-quality SVG->PDF and PS->SVG converters that we could use, >without having to code them into Inkscape. Such a modular approach >would be the best for everyone. The idea that every single design app >must import and export all common formats is, IMHO, a harmful >misconception originated on proprietary platforms where each app has >to be self-sustaining and cannot count on cooperation from other >programs. We can save a lot of resources by not following this model. >I see no problem in having to run Inkscape files through Scribus or >some other converter [1] when I need PDF, provided it is as >cross-platform as we are and produces good output. I agree with you in principle that it might be good design to have a whole different piece of software whose job was SVG->PS or SVG->PDF. However, as far as I can tell, Scribus isn't going to fill that role, and I'm not aware of any other project that will. Scribus isn't cross-platform, it has no command-line interface AFAICT, at the moment it does not do a very good job on SVG->PDF, and I don't see any signs that they consider it to be part of their core mission to act as an automatic behind-the-scenes SVG->PDF converter that other programs can use library-fashion. To me, it would be much more logical for such functionality to be in Inkscape, rather than Scribus; but then, that's easy for me to say, since I don't have the C++ skills or the time that would be needed to do the necessary work on Inkscape :-)

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outputting gradients
by Ben Crowell 19 Dec '04

19 Dec '04

This bug http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=984043&group_id=93… refers to a problem with outputting gradients to postscript. Is there any workaround for this problem? I'm trying to produce PDF output, and have been doing it by doing a Save As, followed by epstopdf.

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Centering odd shapes
by Chris 19 Dec '04

19 Dec '04

Is there any way to center odd shaped objects? (A triangle for example) The current implementation seems to center on the bounding box rather than the average of the vertexes. This makes it impossible to properly center odd shaped objects. Unless I'm missing something? -- // Chris

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Suse 9.1
by aaron Moore 16 Dec '04

16 Dec '04

Hi How can I install inkscape on suse 9.1 I have tried installing gtk+ but to no avail Please help. -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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fonts, converting Illustrator to Inkscape
by Ben Crowell 16 Dec '04

16 Dec '04

I have several hundred Adobe Illustrator files that I'm working on converting to Inkscape. Many of them contain text, generally in Helvetica-9 and -10. Inkscape changes these to Vera-9 and Vera-10, and compared to the corresponding Helvetica fonts, these are about 15% bigger. Now I'm looking at how to handle this conversion, and I want to do it once and do it right, because it's such a large number of files. Basically I have a lot of wishes, which I'm sure are not all mutually compatible, and I'd appreciate any advice on how to get as many of my wishes as possible to come true. The files are illustrations for some textbooks, which I do using pdftex. wish list: 1 The books can be edited and printed (by me or by other people) without using any non-free software or fonts. 2 The text in the figures is close to the size it used to be, and doesn't require too much hand-tweaking. 3 The fonts used in the text (Computer Modern and, presently, Helvetica) look compatible with the fonts used in the figures. 4 The resulting files can be edited on the screen in Inkscape, and they look right. 5 The files look good when people download the PDF and view them on the screen in Acrobat Reader on Windows. (I sell the books in print, and they're also free online as PDF files.) 6 The files look good when my printer prints them as illustrations in my books. 7 The next time I do a new edition, I don't get calls from the printer saying "We couldn't output your document, what's this goofy Vera font?" I also don't get 1000 printed books and then notice that some text was messed up on output. (It's scary, because we do direct digital printing, so a nice looking galley doesn't mean anything -- the actual printing is done on a different device.) So far, I've thought of a few possibilities, and I'm curious if anyone can tell me if they are less than optimal: method A: Write a little Perl script to convert Vera-9 to Vera-7.64, and Vera-10 to Vera-8.50. Output to EPS with the fonts converted to outlines. - accomplishes 1, 2, 4, 7 - doesn't accomplish 3, 5, and 6, because the outlined fonts render badly in PDF viewers and on printers method B: Like A, but don't convert the fonts to outlines. - accomplishes 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 - may accomplish 7, if I can get pdftex to embed Vera - may accomplish 3, but I haven't been able to test it; Vera appears much heavier than Helvetica, but this could be simply due to the limitations of rendering using method A method C Buy a proprietary Helvetica screen font for Linux. - accomplishes 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (Helvetica is one of the basic 13 fonts supported by all PDF viewers and PS printers.) mehod D Convert all the sans serif in the text from Helvetica to Vera, and get pdftex to embed Vera in the PDF. Don't have Inkscape convert the fonts to outlines. - accomplishes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 - may or may not accomplish 7...it would worry me

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Perl script for gamma-correcting an SVG file
by Ben Crowell 16 Dec '04

16 Dec '04

Here is a Perl script I wrote for gamma-correcting an SVG file. It handles both line art (regular SVG stuff) and embedded raster images. You must have the ImageMagick "convert" utility installed. The present version lightens and color-corrects an SVG that was created on a Mac so that it looks right on a PC, but it could easily be modified to serve a more general purpose. Once Perl extensions are implemented in Inkscape, I can hook it in there, but for now you just have to run it from the command line. I'm guessing that the long lines are going to get mangled somewhat as this goes out via the mailing list; I'd be happy to stick this in the Inkscape CVS tree if people think that would be appropriate and if I knew where was a good directory to put it. I've only tested this on some of my own files. Please don't trust it blindly on your own files, and let me know if you encounter any bugs. ============================================================================================ #!/usr/bin/perl #---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # gamma_correct_svg # B. Crowell, crowellXX at lightandmatter.com (replace XX with last two digits of current year) # (c) 2004 B. Crowell # This program is available under version 2 of the GPL License, http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html, # or, at your option, under the same license as Perl. # For information about this program, scroll down in the source code, or invoke the program # without any command-line arguments. #---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- use strict; use MIME::Base64; my $info = <<'INFO'; usage: gamma_correct_svg foo.svg Converts an svg from Mac to PC gamma correction. Handles both line art (regular SVG stuff) and embedded raster images. You must have the ImageMagick "convert" utility installed. INFO undef $/; # slurp whole file my $svg = $ARGV[0]; if (!$svg) { print $info; exit; } die "input file $svg not found" if ! -e $svg; die "input file $svg not readable" if ! -r $svg; open(FILE,"<$svg") or die "error opening file $svg for input, $!"; my $data = <FILE>; close FILE; my %hex = ('0'=>0, '1'=>1, '2'=>2, '3'=>3, '4'=>4, '5'=>5, '6'=>6, '7'=>7, '8'=>8, '9'=>9, 'a'=>10, 'b'=>11, 'c'=>12, 'd'=>13, 'e'=>14, 'f'=>15); my $do_line_art = 1; if (!$do_line_art) { print "Line art will *not* be corrected\n"; } my $did_anything = 0; my @changes = (); my $pat = '(<[^>]*style\s*=\s*")([^"]*)("[^>]*>)'; # <path, <text, <stop, <rect, etc. while ($data=~m/$pat/gi) { my ($before,$style,$after) = ($1,$2,$3); my $pat2 = '((?:fill|stroke|stop\-color)\:\#)([a-zA-Z0-9]{6,6})'; if ($style=~m/$pat2/i) { my $original = "$before$style$after"; $style =~ s/$pat2/$1.correct_rgb($2)/ie; my $changed = "$before$style$after"; if ($changed ne $original && $do_line_art) { push @changes,[$original,$changed]; } } } if (@changes) {$did_anything=1} foreach my $change(@changes) { my $from = $change->[0]; my $to = $change->[1]; $data =~ s/$from/$to/g; } my @raster; my $n = 0; while ($data=~m/\<image\s+(?:\w+\=\"[^"]*\"\s+)*xlink\:href=\"data\:(?:image\/\w+)?\;base64,(([0-9a-zA-Z\+\/]|\s)+\=+)/g) { my $base64 = $1; if ($base64=~m@/9@) { my $binary = decode_base64($base64); my $type = ''; $type='png' if $binary=~m/^\x{89}PNG/; $type='jpg' if $binary=~m/^\x{ff}\x{d8}/; if ($type) { push @raster,[$type,$base64]; ++$n; } } } my $n_rasters = 0; foreach my $raster(@raster) { my $type = $raster->[0]; my $base64 = $raster->[1]; my $binary = decode_base64($base64); my $temp_file = "temp_gamma_correct_svg.$type"; my $temp_file2 = "temp2_gamma_correct_svg.$type"; open(FILE,">$temp_file") or die "error opening file $temp_file for output, $!"; print FILE $binary; close FILE; my $cmd = "convert -level 3\%,97\% -gamma 2.5/2.0/2.1 $temp_file $temp_file2"; system($cmd)==0 or die "command $cmd failed, $?"; open(FILE,"<$temp_file2") or die "error opening file $temp_file2 for input, $!"; my $new_binary = <FILE>; close(FILE); my $new_base64 = encode_base64($new_binary); my $old_base64 = $base64; $old_base64 =~ s/([^a-zA-Z0-9])/\\$1/g; $data =~ s/$old_base64/$new_base64/; $did_anything = 1; ++$n_rasters; unlink $temp_file , $temp_file2; } if ($n_rasters>0) { print "corrected $n_rasters raster images\n"; } if (!$did_anything) { print "no changes made\n"; exit; } # Write the .svg and .bak: my $bak = "$svg.bak"; rename $svg,$bak or die "error renaming file $svg to $bak, $!"; open(FILE,">$svg") or die "error creating new version of file $svg for output, $!"; print FILE $data; close FILE; print "made changes to file $svg\n"; sub correct_rgb { my $rgb = shift; # 3 hex bytes $rgb =~ m/(..)(..)(..)/; my ($r,$g,$b) = ($1,$2,$3); return correct_byte($r).correct_byte($g).correct_byte($b); } sub correct_byte { my $h = shift; # 2 hex digits return fraction_to_hex(correct(hex_to_fraction($h))); } sub correct { my $whiteness = shift; return $whiteness ** (1./2.0); } sub hex_to_fraction { my $hex = shift; $hex =~ m/(.)(.)/; my ($a,$b) = (lc($1),lc($2)); my $frac = (($hex{$a}/16.)+($hex{$b}/256.))*(256./255.) ; #print "hex_to_f, $a,$b,$hex{$a},$hex{$b},$frac\n"; return $frac; } sub fraction_to_hex { my $frac = shift; $frac = $frac*255.; if ($frac<0) {$frac=0} if ($frac>255) {$frac=255} my $hex = uc(sprintf "%02x",$frac); #print "frac_to_hex, $frac, $hex\n"; return $hex; } >From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Dec 17 03:19:28 2004 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:34:52 +0000 Message-Id: <10412171134.AA19275722@...340...> Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Postmaster" <postmaster@...340...> To: <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> X-Mailer: <SMTP32 v8.14> X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. 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Re: applying a common style Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Font size after scaling?
by vellum 16 Dec '04

16 Dec '04

Thanks for the detailed response bulia. This is valuable stuff and I will have to ponder. But not tonight-I mean this morning. It is 12:17am here. I will be gone until next Tuesday so you can have some peace until then. Basically I'm very happy with the latest changes. I can now do what I originally could not but there are still these little points that I do not understand. regards, vellum

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Importing and saving
by Andrew Conkling 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

Hi, I'm having a little trouble in 0.40. I'm working with taking an SVG, importing another (which renders correctly on its own), and saving it. If I do that, the gradients in the imported SVG do not save correctly and show up various shades of gray. However, if I rechoose the gradient from the list (the same one that it already is), and resave it, it then renders correctly. Is this a bug or expected behaviour? Thanks, Andrew

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RE: [Inkscape-user] Grid and adjustment
by Batista, Facundo 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

[bulia byak] #- Snapping is not my area, but I'd say it is a bug, because it was #- indeed intended that # toggles both grid and snapping. I don't know #- who and why changed this. Please submit a bug. Submitted. . Facundo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ADVERTENCIA. La información contenida en este mensaje y cualquier archivo anexo al mismo, son para uso exclusivo del destinatario y pueden contener información confidencial o propietaria, cuya divulgación es sancionada por la ley. Si Ud. No es uno de los destinatarios consignados o la persona responsable de hacer llegar este mensaje a los destinatarios consignados, no está autorizado a divulgar, copiar, distribuir o retener información (o parte de ella) contenida en este mensaje. Por favor notifíquenos respondiendo al remitente, borre el mensaje original y borre las copias (impresas o grabadas en cualquier medio magnético) que pueda haber realizado del mismo. Todas las opiniones contenidas en este mail son propias del autor del mensaje y no necesariamente coinciden con las de Telefónica Comunicaciones Personales S.A. o alguna empresa asociada. Los mensajes electrónicos pueden ser alterados, motivo por el cual Telefónica Comunicaciones Personales S.A. no aceptará ninguna obligación cualquiera sea el resultante de este mensaje. Muchas Gracias.

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icon design
by Lars Boelman 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

Hi all, Even though I'm not an active user of Inkscape (yet), I do follow this mailinglist actively and enjoy the current discussion on interface design. There are certainly ways you can judge an interface, as one person pointed out would be hard or impossible to do. Asktog.com has some interesting suggestions for this on the page 'First Principles of Interaction Design' which can be found at http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html I especially want to stress the importance of Fitts's Law in all graphical interfaces: http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html#fitts's%20law http://www.asktog.com/columns/022DesignedToGiveFitts.html My impression of the Inkscape interface is that there's no real common sense about how to create the interface among the developers. I hope I'm wrong about this and that there are guidelines for developing for the Inkscape interface. There are several HIGs (Human Interface Guidelines) available for free on the web, who basically tell the same. I'm a real fan of the Mac OS X Aqua desktop environment and think that the Apple HIG are argumented very well. I'd suggest that at least some parts of the Apple and Gnome HIGs should be used as guidelines for developing the Inkscape interface and should be referred to (at least the useful parts of) at the software development documentation. This only is useful when all developers see the relevance of this and consistently apply it. To start with streamlining the interface, I want to suggest to take a look at what Apple and Gnome have to tell about icon design. Though they disagree on the style of icons, they do share a common thought on functionality and consistency. Apple: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/ OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGIcons/chapter_5_section_1.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/ 20000967 (that URL is far more user-unfriendly than the text itself fortunately) Gnome: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/icons.html I hope my suggestions were of any use, though I hope even more that it was old news... Regards, Lars Boelman http://lars.boelman.nl

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Re: [Inkscape-user] features ...
by Claus Cyrny 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

Hi again, > From what I can tell the type of gradient you are talking about > isn't > available in most vector graphics editors, although I agree that it > would be a nice option to have. One exception I know of is Macromedia > Fireworks MX which refers to it as a "contour gradient". Canvas by http://www.deneba.com/ has some cool gradients, too. > However, if > this isn't part of the SVG spec is seems like it would probably be > difficult to add this type of gradient to Inkscape. An alternative would be to add gradients via bitmap editing. The only drawback is that it is not possible to access single objects anymore. A workaround could be to export as .ai, to convert the file to .psd (Photoshop), and then to re-import it into the Gimp. I haven't tried this yet, though, still working with v 0.39. Cheers, Claus -- http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/

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Re: [Inkscape-user] My impressions on Inkscape
by Claus Cyrny 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Hi, > From: "Joshua A. Andler" <joshua@...233...> > To: <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: RE: [Inkscape-user] My impressions on Inkscape > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:06:58 -0700 > Reply-To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > I think that they do understand the importance of user-friendly > interfaces, but what is friendly to one person may not be to another. Regarding user-friendliness: I have used CorelDRAW in the past, and the interface of Inkscape is IMHO much more user-friendly & the layout in general is much "clearer". I agree that the palettes could be improved, but in general I am regarding this criticism as way too strong (and somewhat unfair). As I suggested already, docks would be nice, but otherwise I personally find Inkscape very user-friendly. One thing that could be better is, that when I open a file, a new Inkscape window appears, so that I have to close the previous one first. Claus -- http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/

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Anti-aliased PNG Output
by Elpoca 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Hi: I'm using Inkscape 0.40 on Windows. Is there any way that I can make the output anti-aliased? Right now, if I do an 'inkscape -e file.png file.svg' the output looks very poor. If anti-aliased output is not possible, then can anyone suggest a technique to convert my svg to high-quality png? I've tried batik, but the output is also very poor. FYI, it renders fine in both Inkscape (indeed, it was created using inkscape) and in the adobe SVG viewer. Thanks, Elpoca

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RE: [Inkscape-user] Anti-aliased PNG Output
by Batista, Facundo 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

[Elpoca] #- I'm using Inkscape 0.40 on Windows. Is there any way that I #- can make #- the output anti-aliased? Right now, if I do an 'inkscape -e #- file.png #- file.svg' the output looks very poor. If anti-aliased output is not #- possible, then can anyone suggest a technique to convert my svg to #- high-quality png? I've tried batik, but the output is also #- very poor. #- FYI, it renders fine in both Inkscape (indeed, it was created using #- inkscape) and in the adobe SVG viewer. I'm on Win2k SP2, with Inkscape 0.40, and my exported PNGs are fantastic! BTW, I'm using IrfanView to see them. . Facundo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ADVERTENCIA. La información contenida en este mensaje y cualquier archivo anexo al mismo, son para uso exclusivo del destinatario y pueden contener información confidencial o propietaria, cuya divulgación es sancionada por la ley. Si Ud. No es uno de los destinatarios consignados o la persona responsable de hacer llegar este mensaje a los destinatarios consignados, no está autorizado a divulgar, copiar, distribuir o retener información (o parte de ella) contenida en este mensaje. Por favor notifíquenos respondiendo al remitente, borre el mensaje original y borre las copias (impresas o grabadas en cualquier medio magnético) que pueda haber realizado del mismo. Todas las opiniones contenidas en este mail son propias del autor del mensaje y no necesariamente coinciden con las de Telefónica Comunicaciones Personales S.A. o alguna empresa asociada. Los mensajes electrónicos pueden ser alterados, motivo por el cual Telefónica Comunicaciones Personales S.A. no aceptará ninguna obligación cualquiera sea el resultante de este mensaje. Muchas Gracias.

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Re: script for embedding raster images
by Ben Crowell 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

>> Can anyone try this and tell me if they understand what's >> going on? >Have you compared your output syntax with share/examples/data_uri.svg? Aha! Adobe Illustrator does this: data:;base64 But, as shown in the sample file, Inkscape wants data:image/png;base64 or data:image/jpg;base64. I've fixed the script to write it the way Inkscape wants it: http://www.lightandmatter.com/embed_raster_in_svg The latest CVS version of Inkscape is now happy with the script's output. I don't know if AI's output is standards-compliant in this situation or not. Presumably when AI reads one of its own SVG files, it just looks at the magic number from the data in order to figure out what type it is. (There are only two possibilities.) If omitting the type is legal according to the SVG standard, then maybe Inkscape should allow it on input. >P.S. If you plan to keep contributing to Inkscape I can give you >developer access That would be nice, thanks! Given my weak C++ skills and lack of familiarity with Inkscape's codebase, I probably wouldn't dare to committ changes to the C++ code on my own, except maybe after getting comments on them. But if the plan is to have an Extensions menu that can call various Perl scripts, then it might be nice for me to be able to contribute directly to that. My Perl skills are a lot better than my C++ skills, and I'm going to need to write various scripts anyway for my own use (e.g., I'm going to need something to gamma-correct svg files). Is there an API for extensions?

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Re: postscript output is rotated 90 degrees? (bulia byak)
by Ben Crowell 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Thanks, Bulia, for applying the patch! I'd like to request the following further patch. You made w and h doubles, rather than ints, which makes sense, but the fabs is incorrect, because we have w<0 or h<0 on an empty document (I think they're -200000000 or something). That's why there is the sanity check later on. 361,362c361,362 < double w = fabs (d.x1 - d.x0); // width and height of bounding box, in points < double h = fabs (d.y1 - d.y0); --- > double w = (double) (d.x1 - d.x0); // width and height of bounding box, in points > double h = (double) (d.y1 - d.y0); 364c364 < ((int) w > 0 && (int) h > 0) // empty documents fail this sanity check --- > (w > 0. && h > 0.) // empty documents fail this sanity check, have w<0, h<0

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script for embedding raster images
by Ben Crowell 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

As Bulia suggested, I've written a Perl script that takes an svg file that links to bitmapped images, and embeds the images into it. The script is here: http://www.lightandmatter.com/embed_raster_in_svg It can be tested using these two files: http://www.lightandmatter.com/beer.svg http://www.lightandmatter.com/beer.jpg Download all three files, then run the script like this: embed_raster_in_svg beer.svg It copies the original version of beer.svg to beer.svg.bak, and then embeds the raster images into a new version of beer.svg. The output looks reasonable to me, but I'm having a hard time figuring out if it's valid Inkscape svg or not. Bulia said the latest version of Inkscape could handle embedded raster images, so I checked out a copy from cvs, compiled it on my machine, and used it to open the version of beer.svg with the image embedded. However, it showed up as a broken link, just like in older versions of inkscape. Can anyone try this and tell me if they understand what's going on?

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Re: [Inkscape-user] pixel sizes
by Claus Cyrny 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Hi, > I'm very happy with Inkscape's features, but missing one: > How can I switch view to pixel 1:1? Why, you can use "Zoom 1:1", which displays the image in the actual pixel size. Just click on the magnifying glass, and then you have the option "1:1" in the menu bar at the top (at least up to v 0.39). Claus -- http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/

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script for extracting embedded jpeg images
by Ben Crowell 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

The following is a Perl script I wrote for extracting jpeg images that are embedded in an SVG file. I thought it might be useful to some other people. Adobe Illustrator writes SVG output with jpeg images embedded in it. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAICT Inkscape handles <image> tags just fine if they link to an external jpg, but doesn't handle the case where the jpg is embedded. ====== #!/usr/bin/perl # usage: # extract_jpg_from_svg foo.svg # extracts an embedded jpg to foo.emb.jpg (or foo.emb1.jpg, foo.emb2.jpg, ... # if there is more than one) # SVG files generated by AI may have JPEG images embedded in them that look sorta like # this: # <image width="554" height="412" id="XMLID_13_" xlink:href="data:;base64,/9... # The /9 is guaranteed to be there because the magic number of a JPEG file is ffd8 at # a zero offset into the file. use strict; use MIME::Base64; undef $/; # slurp whole file my $svg = $ARGV[0]; die "input file $svg not found" if ! -e $svg; die "input file $svg not readable" if ! -r $svg; open(FILE,"<$svg") or die "error opening file $svg for input, $!"; my $data = <FILE>; my @jpg; my $n = 0; while ($data=~m/\<image\s+(\w+\=\"[^"]*\"\s+)*xlink\:href=\"data\:\;base64,(([0-9a-zA-Z\+\/]|\s)+\=+)/g) { my $base64 = $2; if ($base64=~m@/9@) { my $binary = decode_base64($base64); if ($binary=~m/^\x{ff}\x{d8}/) { push @jpg,$binary; ++$n; } } } if ($n==0) { print "no embedded jpgs found in file $svg\n"; } else { for (my $i=1; $i<=$n; $i++) { my $jpg_file = $svg; $jpg_file =~ s/\.svg$//; $jpg_file = $jpg_file . '.emb'; if ($n>1) {$jpg_file = $jpg_file . $i}; $jpg_file = $jpg_file . '.jpg'; print "writing $jpg_file\n"; open(JPG,">$jpg_file") or die "error opening file $jpg_file for output, $!"; print JPG $jpg[$i-1]; close JPG; } } close FILE;

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"How do I..." questions
by Andrew Conkling 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

Hi, I just started using Inkscape to help out with an icon theme I've come to like. I just upgraded to 0.40 and found it to be immensely more usable; great job! But I'm no doubt still a noob.... I was wondering if the following hangsup I've run into are possible. Help on any of them would be much appreciated: 1. I made 3 Bezier curves that I want to intersect into a shape, but when I try to change the fill for them, it changes on the outside of the shape. Is there any way to change that, or to have Inkscape recognise the 3 curves as a shape in its own right? 2. I'm in Linux, using librsvg 2.8.1, but one icon that looks fine in Inkscape doesn't render properly in the various applications I have viewed it in (it's an icon). What issues could be at work here? 3. Is it possible (again with the Linux version) to theme the icons on the toolbars? Like I said, I'm working to help an icon theme and it would be supremely cool if we could theme Inkscape. Kind of a hat-tipping to the program that helps us make good icons all around.... :) Thanks in advance, Andrew Conkling

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RE: [Inkscape-user] pixel sizes
by Robert G. Davis 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

I think this is what I was talking about a while back. An imported bitmap sizes in inkscape apparently as SVG points. Bring up a bitmap in gimp and 1:1 it and 1:1 the same bitmap in inkscape. The inkscape bitmap is smaller. It displays correctly if I view the svg in Illustrator. This also affects exporting bitmaps. One way I work around it is to size the SVG width/heigth to the correct size. Not perfect. Robert Davis -----Original Message----- From: inkscape-user-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net on behalf of Michal Žeravík Sent: Sat 12/11/2004 3:05 PM To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] pixel sizes Unfortunately not. See screenshot. michal Claus Cyrny wrote: >Hi, > > > >>I'm very happy with Inkscape's features, but missing one: >>How can I switch view to pixel 1:1? >> >> > >Why, you can use "Zoom 1:1", which displays the image in the >actual pixel size. Just click on the magnifying glass, and >then you have the option "1:1" in the menu bar at the top >(at least up to v 0.39). > >Claus > >

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