August 2010 - Inkscape Users - Inkscape Mailman

SVG 2.0: Update want list
by Tavmjong Bah 03 Sep '10

03 Sep '10

Hi, Thanks for all the replies. We're getting quite a list. Here is the latest version: 1. Markers that can inherit parent attributes (e.g. marker fill takes parent stroke color so arrow heads are same color as path). 2. New gradients: A. Conical (special case of mesh?) B. Mesh: (should match PDF types) C. Diffusion curves. 3. Vector effects (see: http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/vectoreffects/master/SVGVectorEffectsPrimer.h… ) 4. Multipage SVG's. 5. Multiline text entry. 6. Perspective transforms. 7. Paths constructed of sub-paths with different attributes. Objects that share paths. (Maybe included as part of vector effects.) 8. Control over stroke positioning (amount inside/outside path). 9. Vector fills. 10. Pattern filter: Variable pattern fills (e.g. size/density of dots as function of color/alpha). 11. Embedded fonts. -- Tavmjong Bah Inkscape, Guide to Vector Drawing Program http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/

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Using command line interface with inkscape.com 0.48 and Windows 7
by Paul A. Bristow 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

I have installed Inkscape 0.48 and it runs OK in Windows 7 32 bit as a windows program. I have got the inkscape.com version from the .7z distro (wasn't in the win installer package - an omission?). But when I try to run the inkscape.com from a command window I don't get a c:\users\paul> prompt just a blank DOS window with the expected. If I type commands like --version or --help or -h they are just echoed and available with the uparrow command recall. I get the Inkscape window up that shows I have Inkscape 0.48.0 r9654. What am I doing wrong? Thanks Paul PS I have run the SVG converter GUI utility but it produces .pngs that don't view right with MS Photo viewer. So I am hoping to run a command file instead - as I did with previous versions. Paul A. Bristow, pbristow@...2746...

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Inkscape 4.8 outset/inset behavior
by Susan Spencer 31 Aug '10

31 Aug '10

In trying to add a 1cm seam allowance outside a pattern drawn with Inkscape 4.8, : 1. the Outset is shaped properly, has the correct width, but it is positioned *over* the path, half in and half out, instead of being placed 100% outside of the path. Is this the intended behavior? 2. The outset doesn't inherit the properties of the path selected, it has a 'fill' by default. I have to select the edit object icon, and set fill to 'x' and stroke to solid. Is there a way to cause the 'Outset' path to inherit the selected path's properties? 3. When I select 'Inset' on the same path,just as a test to see what happens, I get a very small tight grouping of points that have no apparent relationship to my pattern shape. I don't really need 'Inset' at the moment, just thought I'd mention it. I'm new to Inkscape, so perhaps there is something that I am missing. Any suggestions? Thanks, Susan

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Latest svn
by John Culleton 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

I downloaded and installed an svn version. Is this 0.48? Post 0.48? Prior to 0.48? The splash screen still says 0.47 but this may be spurious. Source forge says it is version 22759 -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html

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Inkscape for Debian
by John Culleton 30 Aug '10

30 Aug '10

What repository will Inkscape 0.48 be loaded to? When can we expect it to be available? -- John Culleton Wexford Press "Create Book Covers with Scribus" Printable E-book 38 pages $5.95 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape 4.8 outset/inset behavior
by Susan Spencer 29 Aug '10

29 Aug '10

Attached is Outset_Test.svg The path was created with Ctrl-K. Inkscape step parameter has been set to 56.25px (5/8") The Outset results are very strange. Any info would be appreciated. - Susan > Can you attach the SVG file that originally exposed the unexpected > behavior of the 'Path > Outset' command? > > ~suv > > > >

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Re: [Inkscape-user] is one svg document per document enough?
by Shawn H Corey 29 Aug '10

29 Aug '10

On 10-08-28 11:13 PM, Kyle Reynolds wrote: > I always felt that svg, with multiple pages would be great as a > replacement for other multi page layout formats (more secure than pdf, > more easily manipulatable than doc), but I'm sure there are many > implementation details of both of those formats that I am neglecting > that are irreplaceable to the academic and business applications that > may have special uses for them. > > Inkscape's broader purpose is as a drawing program, so mixing both > drawing and text document editing into a single application would muddle > the interface and functionality. > That would be docBook, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DocBook>, an XML way of laying out documents. I don't think Inkscape should do this too. -- Just my 0.00000002 million dollars worth, Shawn Programming is as much about organization and communication as it is about coding. The secret to great software: Fail early & often. Eliminate software piracy: use only FLOSS.

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape 4.8 outset/inset behavior
by Susan Spencer 29 Aug '10

29 Aug '10

The problem has been corrected for my drawing, but not sure about what was corrected: I selected my segments and converted them to a path with Ctrl-K, then applied Outset, with the results of an inside and outside line, both deviating from the original path in strange ways. I did more experimentation, selecting segments then converting to path, then Simplifying the path before adding Outset resulted with same inside & outside offset lines. More experimenting in this vein had similar results. Only after the object was initially created as one single path, with 'z' connector at the end, did the Outset become a proper exact copy 36px (~1cm) outside of the object. Not sure about all the issues involved here, it's just nice to know for the moment which hammer was required to achieve the desired result. Later maybe a smaller hammer will do. - Susan Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:37:33 -0500 > From: Susan Spencer <susan.spencer@...155...> > Subject: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape 4.8 outset/inset behavior > To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <AANLkTi=+owBm1Ka_jN1ZHMRfRHKGMOD2P4anDqev-kWk@...156...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > In trying to add a 1cm seam allowance outside a pattern drawn with > Inkscape > 4.8, : > 1. the Outset is shaped properly, has the correct width, but it is > positioned *over* the path, half in and half out, instead of being placed > 100% outside of the path. Is this the intended behavior? > 2. The outset doesn't inherit the properties of the path selected, it has a > 'fill' by default. I have to select the edit object icon, and set fill to > 'x' and stroke to solid. Is there a way to cause the 'Outset' path to > inherit the selected path's properties? > 3. When I select 'Inset' on the same path,just as a test to see what > happens, I get a very small tight grouping of points that have no apparent > relationship to my pattern shape. I don't really need 'Inset' at the > moment, > just thought I'd mention it. > > I'm new to Inkscape, so perhaps there is something that I am missing. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Susan >

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Re: [Inkscape-user] is one svg document per document enough?
by unknown＠example.com 29 Aug '10

29 Aug '10

On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 23:13:07 -0400 "Kyle Reynolds" <kyle@...2740...> wrote: Inkscape's broader purpose is as a drawing program, so mixing both > drawing and text document editing into a single application would > muddle the interface and functionality. i would have agreed to this some years ago. but today i'd rather go with this hands-on approach inkscape provides than with the nutshell approach of abiword or the like. i'd actually drop all those office tools, except of gnumeric, for a tool like inkscape that at least provided a bit of PageMaker. i don't expect QuarkExpress, really not! the reason is that the inkscape-way is, from my point of view, like the excel-way, the more generic and thus the more powerful way of doing things. if this generic way is restricted because of the specialized interface, this forces me to search for a second tool that is to 90% like inkscape. it will be the same fat and slow to compile, the same complex and it will mainly solve the same technical problems internally. should only the interface enforce several implementations? i question this. another way is to separate the masks from the core so that a PageMaker could settle on it. but, two different projects will lead to two incompatible file formats, i guess. well, you decide. maledetto <maledetto@...2748...>

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is one svg document per document enough?
by unknown＠example.com 29 Aug '10

29 Aug '10

hello sorry if you already discussed this... i was thinking about how to simulate pages with svg capabilities and inkscape features. i am also in the need to create text forms that are empty by default and don't shrink to the size of the input. i also understand that svg has no rules to solve these problems and probably never will, but... is svg meant to solve higher order layout problems or is a tool like inkscape wrong if it only bases on one svg document per document/file? what would w3c say to this? do they think that multiple pages in a document are to be defined as multiple svg documents in one xml document? are text forms to be programmed with python or javascript or should one integrate other standards like xhtml or xforms? what do you think? maledetto <maledetto@...2748...>

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