Re: [Inkscape-user] First Inkscope Video Podcast is live!
by C R
>
>
> > >> At first I thought the sound is bad, the video is bad, and
> > >> there's no focus.
> > >
> > >
> > > At first I thought... Well, he's right about the sound, but the video
> > > isn't bad, and podcasts are all nattering on about something of
> interest to
> > > a niche target audience.
> > >
>
> You say "All podcasts are like this," but please! -- they don't
> have to be.
>
I think what you want is a documentary... we could do that, if we had the
time/money/resources. But obviously no one wants to hear about that again.
;)
It's important to know what podcasts are like, lest we order the vegan
platter and bemoan its lack of meat.
> Yes, indeed, I thought these guys have a terrific amount of experience
> with Inks, designing, implementing, debugging. They will now impart
> some gems of wisdom.
>
> Nyet.
>
The title of this initial introductory podcast is "Casual Inkscape Chat",
not "Everything You Might Want to Know about Inkscape at Any Level of
Monotonous and Very Specific Detail".
That's the NEXT episode. ;)
They talk about everything except. Jeepers.
>
Chastisement accepted. I feel we've somehow wasted your valuable time here.
;)
> > > I think that last bit should be the title of our next podcast. Inside
> > > jokes are often part of what makes FLOSS grouo projects fun after all.
> > >
>
> I have mixed feelings about inside jokes. They're fun sometimes,
> but they do tend to exclude people . . .
>
That would be true if we didn't explain the jokes to anyone who asked, or
somehow limited people from joining to be in on them. That was explained in
the nattering, by the way, including ways to join in the fun, keep the
community friendly and active, and gain a reputation for being absurdly
resillient to major problems like funding issues.
> > >> It left a lot of questions unanswered: What's a hackfest?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Good idea for a podcast. I had the same question from my mum. "Is it
> where
> > > you learn to hack?" XD
> > >
> > > I have abundant footage to clip together to help explain. Esp of the
> one
> > > in Kiel.
>
> Awwww, don't dodge the question. Tell me in less than 50 words.
>
I get the feeling that podcasts are not a format you enjoy...
Maybe one of the many tutorials about hackfests, or some googling around
for articles would be better.
Podcasts are mostly freeform Q&A, and can be 30minutes to many hours.
They are a good platform to discuss things on-camera with little editing
needed.
The idea is that since we don't have time for a documentary, let's just
talk with eachother on camera and see where it goes.
Podcasts let you listen in on a regular unscripted conversation with people
in the project on particular topics. They are a great community building
tool because unlike a documentary or tutorial, you get to know what people
in the project are like. You get to be in on those jokes, and the more you
watch, the more you feel like part of the community. It's not a format for
50-words or less people. Gotta have more patience to get the payoff of
podcasts.
> I would have guessed that it's basically a social occasion, but
> the podcast exclaims loudly that everyone worked very hard.
>
When people in our community (and sometimes outside) do great things, in
this case, fly potentially thousands of miles to work all week full time on
Inkscape together, we tend to shout their praise from the rooftops. We also
release summary articles in our newsfeed about exactly what happens at the
hackfests, including what was acomplished.
If the loud exclaiming is getting to you, I recommend spending time
elsewhere. We congratulate eachother a lot. Not just because it's richly
deserved, but also because it's motivating and encouraging to hear it from
your friends and community members.
> OK, what were you doing?
>
I hope this level of detail satisfies:
https://inkscape.org/news/2018/09/20/inkscape-hackfest-kiel-2018-what-hap...
I spent quite a bit of time making stickers, taking/editing photos, writing
the article and also capturing video for later use (part of my own hackfest
activities prior to, during and after the event).
The pictures are nice, but video can be much better to relate the feeling
of what it's like to work together face to face with people you work and
chat with over the internet every day to make Inkscape better, support
eachother and yes, have a bit of fun too. You can, for example see people
writing extensions to use Inkscape for 3D printing, and making projects
with it. You can see the joy and excitement of getting something to work
which didn't before, and the further thrill of releasing it to millions of
users so they can experience the same joy of using it. You can also see the
kinds of machines people work on, and collections of stickers and totems
folks have.
> > >
> > > What's multi-page support supposed to do?
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, it's one of our most requested features apart from CMYK. Maybe it
> > > would be good to do an episode on most requested features, what they
> do for
> > > the non technical among us, snd what it would take to get them
> implemented.
> > >
>
> Shucks.
>
> You dodged this question too.
>
Did I? I said it's one of the most requested features. However, let's
ignore convention and assume that a quick internet search would not turn up
a wealth of information on a "most requested feature"...
Multi-page support basically boils down to having a mechanism for
creating/exporting multi-page documents. People have written extensions to
use the layers dialog for this, however it really should be in Inkscape
proper, and have it's own dockable dialog for determining things like
whether the pages are facing (organised into spreads), or just appended one
after another. This is useful for, well creating multi-page documents...
yea.
Hey! Great!
>
>
I know right? Mesh gradients have been there for... years actually, thanks
to the hard work of Tavmjong. These are the sorts of announcements we could
put into a podcast, for those patient enough to listen to them. There's
also our news feed which is getting a lot more love recently due to our
outreach efforts, and formation of the Inkscape Vectors team (which was
also nattered about).
> > > Nope. No one has time to do a complete overhaul of anything right now.
> A
> > > stable and improved Inkscape is what will be delivered. Overhauls will
> need
> > > to wait past 1.0 realease.
>
> Well, this is how people get dragged in. I suppose if I want it
> changed I'll have to write it myself.
>
Possibly. That, of course will take patience as well.
> . . . although, you know, I'd like to get some assurance that my
> version will get into the source tree. How to get that?
>
Recommend using gitlab to create your own branch with the code
modifications. Once you've tested it and it's reliably working, you can
submit a merge request. The code will then be reviewed, and modificaitons
suggested.
As far as "assurances", absolutely not. This is a project where we work
together. It takes time, effort and patience on everyone's part to get
stuff stable and make sure everything works together.
No project will promise to patch in arbitrary code before it's made.
You could, of course make it for yourself, submit patches, and consider
eventually making it into trunk a bonus. That may be worth it to you at the
very least. Indeed, that's how a lot of folks get interested in Inkscape
development. They want it, they make it, and they decide to share the
results.
Well, of course, it /is/ a labor of love. It's good of you not to
> be (too) offended. But, it isn't that much harder to do a good job:
> more succinct, more focused.
>
Podcasts are unscripted. If you want something scripted, podcasts are
likely not the format for you.
We figure a podcast was a good format for reasons previously stated in this
reply but also it's better than waiting until we have time to reherse,
script and produce the masterpiece you're after. Something is better than
nothing.
>
> Good journalism. Did you take journalism in high school?
>
Nope. Just 15 years of experience creating content for an obscene quantity
of commercial products, websites, and yes, Inkscape too. :)
If you want the original 2 hour video clip which I've trimmed down, that
can be arranged. Maybe then you'll appreciate more the work that went into
just this first episode.
I don't expect an improvement in the sound, actually, as long as
> people are using their own mics at home. Oh, well.
>
Martin's mic was hitting the sound ceiling excessively. That's probably
fixable in the mic settings of Ubuntu, so the bar is low to make at least
that improvement. I did normalise the sound from the entire video so it
wasn't blowing your ears or speakers out each and every time Doc said
something. So even there, there's something to be greatful for. ;) Nothing
I can to about the sound ceiling in post, though. Just need to reduce mic
sensitivity for the next one. That was actually the least of the technical
problems Ryan, Tim and Martin ran into recording this. Seriously, if you
saw the original, it's clear there was a LOT of patience involved in just
recording it.
> PS, the bad quality video was edited down a ton by some maniac, to exclude
> > all the technical difficulties which the audience would otherwise have to
> > sit through. So one could simply be happy about that fact, and enjoy
> > listening to largely off
> > -the-cuff banter from our intrepid team of strangeoids on this their very
> > first podcast attempt.
> >
> > Can I get a huzzah?
> >
> > -C
>
> Hurrah! (I hope it's the same thing.)
>
Works for me. :)
-C
4 years, 4 months
Re: [Inkscape-user] [Inkscape-devel] Vectors Meeting - Tomorrow - Possible Postponement
by C R
We are heavily using this chat across all parts of the project at the
moment. Do we need to worry about stability? Thanks for any advice.
-C
On Sun, 5 May 2019, 20:04 Manuel Jesús Recena Soto, <recena@...155...>
wrote:
> Hello Ryan,
>
> If you believe this chat service is critical, I suggest you to schedule a
> meeting with infrastructure team in order to find a better solution.
>
> Regards,
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 2:02 AM Ryan Gorley via Inkscape-devel <
> inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>> Due to the certificate error on chat.inkscape.org, some individuals may
>> be scared away from participating in our meeting tomorrow. I'm going to
>> keep an eye on it, but if the error isn't resolved in the next couple hours
>> I'm going to suggest we postpone our meeting one week. I'll update everyone
>> on the status a little later.
>>
>> - Ryan
>>
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4 years, 4 months
Set font for whole file without losing other formatting (in SVG?)
by BPJ
It seems I cannot change the font family globally in all text
objects in the GUI using the font dialog. It also seems that when
I change the font family for an individual object through the font
dialog subscript and size formatting for parts of the text is
lost. Thus I'm looking to change the font by editing the SVG
produced by Inkscape in a text editor, but that seems to be more
complicated than I expected. Upon inspecting the SVG produced by
Inkscape I see that each `<text>` *and* `<tspan>` element has a
`style` attribute with comprehensive font style info ---
essentially all the font formatting properties. This seems a bit
wasteful since I use the same font at the same size throughout the
drawing, only adding the occasional bold weight and some
subscripts here and there. It may make little difference given
the (many) paths in the drawing, but is there any way to set
things up so that most font properties are inherited from/set once
in as high a node as possible? I'm looking to change the font face
used and changing it by search&replace in lots of places --- the
font name appears twice in each `<text>` or `<tspan>` `style`
attribute! --- seems like a heavy-handed way to do it.
/bpj
4 years, 4 months
Vectors Meeting - Tomorrow - Possible Postponement
by Ryan Gorley
Hello All,
Due to the certificate error on chat.inkscape.org, some individuals may
be scared away from participating in our meeting tomorrow. I'm going to
keep an eye on it, but if the error isn't resolved in the next couple
hours I'm going to suggest we postpone our meeting one week. I'll update
everyone on the status a little later.
- Ryan
4 years, 4 months
How to know viewbox parameters on save
by Ole Ersoy
Trying to figure out whether there is a deterministic way to save an optimized SVG such that we can match the viewbox parameters perfectly with the containing HTML elements width and height parameters. For example if we have a div element like this:
<div style="width: 100px; height:100px"> <svg> ...</svg></div>
How do we save an SVG so that it gets a viewbox that will fit perfectly inside the div when we inline it as shown above? Also asked the question on SO, but I'm hoping there is a more straight forward way to do this.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55958117/setting-the-viewbox-so-that-...
TIA,
Ole
4 years, 4 months
