March 2008 - Inkscape Users - Inkscape Mailman

Extended input and "keys"
by Jon A. Cruz 09 Mar '08

09 Mar '08

Hi, I'm trying to find out if anyone has successfully gotten the "keys" settings under the "Input Devices..." dialog to actually do anything. So far on Ubuntu 7.10 I've been unable to get them reacting with my Wacom. I'm very interested in anyone getting them to work, since I'm doing a replacement for that dialog and am almost ready to check in the first round. Thanks for any feedback.

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Scripting - retrieving rendered bounding box
by simonecesano＠libero.it 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

Hi all, is it possible to retrieve information about the rendered elements of a drawing via scripting Inkscape? For example, to retrieve the bounding box of an element which has been scaled and traslated? And is it possible to execute commands - like generating a shape which is the union of two shapes - via scripting Inlscape? Thanks in advance, Simone

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computer modern (cmr10) font
by Ian Malone 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hi, I'm using inkscape 0.45 on Fedora 8 and I've got a .svg that I want to convert into pdf. Previously I used the -E option to export to .eps then applied epstopdf. However the hyphen in the computer modern font (cmr10) that I'm using disappears in this process (Evince doesn't show it in the .eps). Export to pdf directly or using the -T option both work, but can anyone suggest what's going on with eps export? (While -A works I'm curious as to why -E doesn't, also -A produces a 334KB file rather than the 13K one I get with -E and epstopdf.) -- imalone

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Selection and dragging problems with a tablet
by Denís Fernández Cabrera 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hello, everyone. I have just recently compiled Inkscape CVS snapshot 17530. It works perfectly, save for the fact that I have real problems selecting and dragging objects with my Wacom Graphire 4: I have to tap several times with the stylus (and sometimes, to apply real force on the tapping) for the program to recognize what I am trying to do. The calligraphic tool, though, or the pen tool, work perfectly. I think it is only an issue with the selection tool. I never had this problem before with other versions of Inkscape. I didn't do any changes to the tablet configuration nor to my X server, and I have tried using different desktop environments to see wether it made a difference --- it didn't. Is anyone experiencing this issue? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Denís. -- Denís Fernández Cabrera mailto://denis@...2126... http://gatonegro.ceibes.org

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SVG Tiny
by Denís Fernández Cabrera 04 Mar '08

04 Mar '08

Hello, I have a friend working on mobile devices, and he needs to use the SVG Tiny specification. He was asking me wether Inkscape could produce that kind of files, and when it would reach version 0.5. Of course I know that trying to predict when 0.5 will come out is pretty much impossible, but (keeping in mind that I don't know anything about the SVG Tiny spec) I was thinking that one could possibly create SVGs with Inkscape (avoiding the effects or resources not contained in the Tiny spec) and then use a small script to strip out whatever doesn't match the spec. Does anyone know if this is feasible? And what differences are exactly between the SVG and the SVG Tiny? Denís. -- Denís Fernández Cabrera mailto://denis@...2126... http://gatonegro.ceibes.org

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Inkscape / GSoC '08 proposal
by Bryce Harrington 04 Mar '08

04 Mar '08

Hi all, I'm hearing some rumblings that Google will be running their Summer of Code project again this year, and want to put out a proposal for discussion about how we should handle it this year. SoC has been great for bringing new ideas to Inkscape from a number of sources, yet often the newly written code needs follow up work to sand rough corners or to make it fit more correctly within our architecture. However, between SoC mentoring during the summers, and release work at other parts of the year, core developers haven't really had a good solid amount of time to focus on this digestion. There is concern that another summer's worth of code would put us further behind in this regard. Of course, given the major benefits that have accrued from our past involvement, it would be a shame to have to sit it out! But I think there is a compromise which will solve this, if we set two criteria for this year's involvement: 1. All Inkscape GSoC projects this year must be implemented as extensions, with no changes required to Inkscape's core 2. All mentoring be done by developers who will not be focusing on the 0.47 codebase refactoring efforts. (In particular, developers with good extension development experience.) We will limit the number of candidates we accept to the number of mentors available. I think this approach will prove valuable in a few different ways. First, extension writing is likely going to be a much easier learning curve for students than learning to build and work within inkscape's codebase. Second, it keeps their code distinct and discrete from inkscape's codebase, avoiding any increase in 'entropy' in our core code. Third, it will help add value to our extension community, and give them resources to do achieve things that would have had trouble competing against core codebase feature priorities. Please let me know what are your thoughts on this proposal? If you support it and have written extensions before, would you also be willing to be a mentor? Bryce

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Firefox 3 T-Shirt Contest - (Submissions in SVG)
by ryan lerch 03 Mar '08

03 Mar '08

Just thought i would post about the firefox 3 T-Shirt contest, where the accepted format is SVG... Wouldn't mind see a member of the inkscape community winning... :P link: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/tcontest cheers, ryanlerch

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Re: [Inkscape-user] 0.46, 0.45 startup problems on Leopard
by jiho 02 Mar '08

02 Mar '08

Hi again, On 2008-February-24 , at 22:40 , Stuart Edwards wrote: > On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:27 PM, jiho wrote: >>> 2/24/08 10:22:31 AM [0x0-0x2e02e].org.inkscape.Inkscape[685] >>> (inkscape- >>> bin:686): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. >>> 2/24/08 10:22:31 AM [0x0-0x2e02e].org.inkscape.Inkscape[685] Using >>> the fallback 'C' locale. >> >> This is OK. > Not getting this now with xquartz >> >>> 2/24/08 10:22:32 AM [0x0-0x2e02e].org.inkscape.Inkscape[685] ** >>> (inkscape-bin:686): WARNING **: Unknown verb name: FullScreen >> >> This is just a warning but we are having it a lot. This is related to >> the new version of X11 but I don't know where it comes from on >> Inkscape's side. > Nor this >> >>> 2/24/08 10:22:34 AM [0x0-0x2e02e].org.inkscape.Inkscape[685] >>> (inkscape- >>> [...] >>> (inkscape- >>> bin:686): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GSUB table 85 >> >> These are regular warnings too. > ok, but they are gone too. Glad to know these warnings are gone. But actually this makes me think there's an other problem. Indeed, they should be there actually... read on. >>> This may shed some light on the X11 problem >> >> The X11 problem is the following: on Panther+Tiger X11 must be >> started >> to run X11 applications so we started it manually in Inkscape >> launcher, on Leopard, X11 is automatically launched when an >> applications queries the DISPLAY variable (and X11 thing). So we just >> had to surround the code which started X11 in the launcher by an if >> condition ( if version is < 10.5 then start X11, else just skip it ). >> This has been included in all recent devel versions of Inkscape (all >> those compiled on Leopard at least) and has been "backported" to >> 0.45.1. So all those should work on Leopard. > So this definitely doesn't seem to be happening with Leopard or > 0.45.1 (see below) It does work and has worked on several systems already so that makes me think the problem is elsewhere. >> [...] >> - get the latest X11 from Xquartz (*much* better than the default one >> on Leopard, and kind of official >> >> http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/xquartz/wiki/X112.1.4 > done - unfortunately the net result is no change as far as 0.46 is > concerned. I downloaded 0.45.1 and it opens briefly, triggers X11 > which opens and then Inkscape is gone. There are no Inkscape > related console messages. What log are you watching? By default when you open Console.app on Leopard you're on a sort of table view in which messages come in from several places. Just switch to LOG FILES > System log in the side bar. Here's what I get when I start Inkscape devel (latest on modevia), with X11 not yet running, on OS X 10.5.2, Xquartz 2.1.4. I've inserted markers where appropriate: >>>>>> Monday, 2008 February 25 00:07:09,652Europe/Paris ----> Starting Inkscape Feb 25 00:07:13 jiho-ibook [0x0-0x388388].org.inkscape.Inkscape[15189]: (inkscape-bin:15190): Gtk- WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Feb 25 00:07:13 jiho-ibook [0x0-0x388388].org.inkscape.Inkscape[15189]: Using the fallback 'C' locale. Feb 25 00:07:13 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: xauth: creating new authority file /Users/jiho/.serverauth.15224 Feb 25 00:07:13 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: xinit: Detected Xquartz startup, setting file=X, argv[0]=/Applications/Utilities/X11.app/ Contents/MacOS/X11 Feb 25 00:07:13 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: XQuartz starting: Feb 25 00:07:13 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: X.org Release 7.2 Feb 25 00:07:13 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: X.Org X Server 1.3.0- apple10 Feb 25 00:07:13 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: Build Date: 20080213 Feb 25 00:07:13 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: TransformProcessType: Success Feb 25 00:07:13 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: Xquartz: run by launchd for fd 0 >>>>>> Monday, 2008 February 25 00:07:23,286Europe/Paris ---> Inkscape window appears Feb 25 00:07:14 jiho-ibook [0x0-0x388388].org.inkscape.Inkscape[15189]: (inkscape-bin:15190): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GDEF table 28333 Feb 25 00:07:14 jiho-ibook [0x0-0x388388].org.inkscape.Inkscape[15189]: (inkscape-bin:15190): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GSUB table 28333 Feb 25 00:07:14 jiho-ibook [0x0-0x388388].org.inkscape.Inkscape[15189]: (inkscape-bin:15190): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 28333 Feb 25 00:07:17 jiho-ibook [0x0-0x388388].org.inkscape.Inkscape[15189]: (inkscape-bin:15190): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GDEF table 28333 Feb 25 00:07:17 jiho-ibook [0x0-0x388388].org.inkscape.Inkscape[15189]: (inkscape-bin:15190): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GSUB table 28333 Feb 25 00:07:17 jiho-ibook [0x0-0x388388].org.inkscape.Inkscape[15189]: (inkscape-bin:15190): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 28333 Feb 25 00:07:34 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: rlCopy.c:59: null pointer >>>>>> Monday, 2008 February 25 00:08:07,286Europe/Paris ---> Quitting X11 Feb 25 00:08:23: --- last message repeated 1 time --- Feb 25 00:08:11 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: Quitting XQuartz... Feb 25 00:08:11 jiho-ibook org.x.X11[15224]: xinit: connection to X server lost. The locale issue has been here for ever, I guess it's something in our starting script but it is harmless. Then come messages from Xquartz The Pango errors take some tim to appear and are, in my experience, associated at least in part with the use of Lucida Grande as Inkscape's UI font. Once again, the font is still displayed fine. This is harmless Then again messages from Xquartz when quitting. So basically, if you get any of these messages, don't worry, it's the normal behavior (not perfect but it works). We'll try something else now: do you have any custom templates or the like in ~/.inkscape? Could you try moving away those and your preferences. In aTerminal: mkdir -p inkscape-bkp mv ~/.inkscape* inkscape-bkp Then start Inkscape. To put them back in place: mv inkscape-bkp/.ink* ~ rmdir inkscape-bkp If this is indeed the problem, please try to find which file causes it (by moving back only part of your customizations. Are comfortable enough with a terminal?) and then submit a bug report with it on Launchpad. > From: rygle <pittos@...2434...> > Jiho (and others), > > If any of these issues are common enough, can you please contribute > some > wisdom to the http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/InstallHelp > InstallHelp section on the wiki? > > I'm not a Mac user, but after some frustration helping my brother > install > decided I could make a meaningful contribution for Mac users that > could help > them navigate the X11 version nightmare. But this stuff I have no idea > about. Well I would if I could. These different versions of X11 are a mess. The bug reports open on this are usually still lacking information while precise steps were given. I've never had a single problem with it so I don't have first hand experience. The information currently in the wiki is excellent IMHO. You did a great job. And if everyone followed these I think we would have had much less bug reports in the Panther-Tiger transition. As for Leopard, I personally use Xquartz but would not recommend it to people unless they have problems (like Stuart here). As usual: "Don't fix what ain't broken". The update Apple shipped with 10.5.2 should have improved the matter enough anyway. Cheers, JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

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