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Manipulate nodes from two objects
by marc0047 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

Is there a way to manipulate nodes from multiple objects simultaneously? Excuse my use of Illustrator, but it's the only way I know how to express this in Illustrator! http://www.nabble.com/file/6220/Picture%201.png -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Manipulate-nodes-from-two-objects-tf3163901.html#a877… Sent from the Inkscape - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Definition of divergence in sprial tool?
by David Chandler 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

I am trying to create logarithmic spirals for illustrating many of the spirals in nature, but I am having a hard time translating from the "divergence" to any meaningful factor used to specify the spiral. If Divergence =1 it expands in equal increments, but what is the definition of Divergence = 2 or any other amount? I was hoping it would produce a logarithmic spiral (increasing by the same factor for each turn), but from measurements this does not appear to be the case. Any insight on this? By the way, if the spiral with divergence >1 is NOT a logarithmic spiral, that feature should be added. In a logarithmic spiral the angle between the radius and the tangent line at any point on the spiral is a constant. It can be specified mathematically as r = a*e^(k*theta). (It could probably be more correctly described as an exponential spiral.) --David Chandler -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Definition-of-divergence-in-sprial-tool--tf3164533.ht… Sent from the Inkscape - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Inkscape-user] [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape 0.45-pre3 released
by Bryce Harrington 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 01:49:15PM +1100, Michael Wybrow wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, bulia byak wrote: > > > >Unfortunately Mental didn't publish the patch for calligraphic tool > >sensitivity that he and I worked on. He needs to test it and was going > >to publish it tonight. I dunno if we must release pre4 with this patch, > >but at any rate please do not make the final release without it! > > > If there is going to be another prerelease... I've fixed two connector > related crashbugs in the last couple of days. These should also be added > to the release branch, either for 0.45 or for 0.45.1. They were both > pretty trivial fixes so should be safe for 0.45. > > The bugs were #1633685 and #1630101. > > They are fixed by the changes in these three revisions: > r13962, r13963 and r13971. > > Not sure who the current right person to be telling this too is? I can > add this information to the patch tracker if that is preferred. Thanks, yes I spotted one of these fixes earlier, thanks. It would be very helpful if you could post the changes as patches to the patch tracker, and either Aaron or I can take it from there. Thanks, Bryce

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Linux Questions' Graphics App of the Year - Vote
by Joshua A. Andler 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

If Inkscape is your favorite linux graphics app, go hit up the vote. :) http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=514972 Votes for all categories (distro, database, text editor, etc.) can be found at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/awards -Josh

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Layers dropdown, was: Baffling UI
by rain 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

On 1/30/07, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...1631...> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 04:24:00PM +0000, Alan Horkan wrote: > > > > If you are only using it for status and not making much use of the > hiding > > or locking buttons do you think an indication in the title bar would be > > helpful? > > No no no, I do use it for switching, locking and hiding, too. > It give status infomation, and sits in the status bar. > It offers means to change all it informs about with only > taking a tiny bit more space for that. > > > this started because the status bar messages were unclear and > abbreviated. > > Hmm. They have tooltips. The only one that made me wonder was the O for > Opacity (I'm looking at a not too recent 0.44+devel version). > > Fills, Stroke and Zoom could use icons. > > The N/A ... I would just write nothing. no word, empty space. > Note even F: and S: needs to stay there. > > The foo "in layer bar" message is really redundant. > > The palette bar could hide the scrollbar if it fits in. > > > > You'd think people are only beginners once but unfortunately many people > > stay there, I for example dont use Blender often enough to retain what > > little I have learnt and I'm effectively a beginner everytime. If you > > have worked in technical support you find many more users are like this > > when it comes to their computer. without really trying inkscape has > been > > successful in attracting artistic users who want inkscape for their > > various kidns of crafts work it will help if things can be kept simple > > with one right way to do things and not too many assumptions made about > > inkscape users being experts at technical drawing and wanting many > > different possibilities to achieve the same end results, as it is the > > results that matter. Unfortunately, no matter how many people come to a consensus, the "one right thing" will not appeal to everyone, and assuming that there is any one way to go about a task makes the inkscape UI seem a little authoritarian. The effect is an arrogant sort of "This way is better, and you need to adjust the way you do things from however you did it before, because THIS is how it is in inkscape." This does not strike me as typical FLOSS behaviour, and even if the motive behind the above quoted notion isn't arrogance, it comes off as such. IMHO, idea that "having many ways of doing the same tasks" is for experts is flawed. An expert would have worked out the most efficient way to carry out a task and then stuck to that. The point of having many ways to do something would be to cater to users at every level. Of course the inkscape community would want to push users to develop instead of staying at the beginner level, but it seems to me that it would be better to try to encourage the user away from the inefficient way they have been doing things in AI/Freehand/whatever instead of insisting that they quit cold turkey and "Do it the right way!". my 2c I still think most users make it to some intermediate level. > If you look at hours spent with a software, users that only > touch it once in a while don't count. > > > -- > Thorsten Wilms > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > -- -- Meshach Mitchell

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effects don't work in 0.45pre2
by Arthur Bueno 02 Feb '07

02 Feb '07

I installed inkscape 0.45pre2 using the Windows installer. Some of the effects don't work. Most useful to me would be the "export/groups to pngs" script. If I run it I get an error message (see below). Does anybody have an idea how to get it working? the error message is: Traceback (most recent call last): File "share\extensions\g2pngs.py", line 81, in ? e.affect() File "C:\Program Files\Inkscape\share\extensions\inkex.py", line 153, in affect self.parse() File "C:\Program Files\Inkscape\share\extensions\inkex.py", line 114, in parse self.document = reader.fromStream(stream) File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\_xmlplus\dom\ext\reader\Sax2.py", line 372, in fromStream File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\_xmlplus\sax\expatreader.py", line 109, in parse File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\_xmlplus\sax\xmlreader.py", line 121, in parse IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 01-Feb-07

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Installation help
by John R. Culleton 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

On a Slackware Linux 11 system when I do ./configure I get the following errors: checking for INKSCAPE... configure: error: Package requirements (gdkmm-2.4 glibmm-2.4 gtkmm-2.4 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.8.0 libxml-2.0 >= 2.6.11 libxslt >= 1.0.15 cairo sigc++-2.0 >= 2.0.11 gthread-2.0 >= 2.0 libpng >= 1.2) were not met: No package 'gdkmm-2.4' found No package 'glibmm-2.4' found No package 'gtkmm-2.4' found No package 'sigc++-2.0' found Is there a bundle for Inkscape users that has these packages? Or must I chase them down individually? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com

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what direction for UI
by Daniel Culver 31 Jan '07

31 Jan '07

I hope that I am not out of place adding my thoughts on the UI. I started using CAD/CAM almost thirty years ago, when my father was an early developer of training programs. I am an accomplished draftsman, but, I can go for long periods without using a program (I still use hand drawing a lot), and find I need to reacquaint myself with the UI. JiHO, I think has a very good idea, with the ability to select from user profiles. Bulia's ideas about templates are also very excellent, I wish I was able to work on that one, but I can't. This may be out of place, but, my 'best of wish' would be specific to Mac; I would love to see a multiple user profiles (prewritten and customised) along with a start-up script available from a dashboard widget. Daniel Culver danielculver@...107...

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Layers dropdown
by Bryce Harrington 31 Jan '07

31 Jan '07

On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 06:06:49PM +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > this started because the status bar messages were unclear and abbreviated. > > > You'd think people are only beginners once but unfortunately many people > > stay there, I for example dont use Blender often enough to retain what > > little I have learnt and I'm effectively a beginner everytime. If you > > have worked in technical support you find many more users are like this > > when it comes to their computer. without really trying inkscape has been > > successful in attracting artistic users who want inkscape for their > > various kidns of crafts work it will help if things can be kept simple > > with one right way to do things and not too many assumptions made about > > inkscape users being experts at technical drawing and wanting many > > different possibilities to achieve the same end results, as it is the > > results that matter. You know, it occurs to me that the status messages and the layer dropdown may cater to different crowds. Being able to read the status messages clearly is something novice users need the most. The layer dropdown is something experienced users are after. Of course, there is some overlap (novice users needing layers will spot the layer dropdown first, and even experienced users will find info in the status bar of use from time to time). But this makes me wonder if the status bar could benefit from some sort of adaptive ui behavior or perhaps just a configuration setting? For new users, the layer dropdown (among other things) could initially just be scary clutter, so clearing off the status bar in favor of status messages could make the application >look< a lot more approachable. Then, later once they've gotten more comfortable, they could graduate into expert mode and have these extra accessories turned on. This may also fit in with a more mode-oriented usage model that we've discussed previously in the context of technical drawing vs. artistic drawing needs, which shows up in areas like snapping and so forth. The layer dropdown is not a good example here since both technical and artistic drawers need that, but a better example might be a symbol pallete (very important for tech drawing, but not so much for artists), vs. the color pallete (important for art, less so for tech). A framework that allowed the UI to adapt to different user modes could prove handy for a lot of different purposes. Another example would be a "child-oriented mode" where the UI is simplified to basic drawing options. Ideally, we would be able to come up with a single design that suits all needs (e.g. moving it into the canvas), and it is very wise to always make that the top goal, since the fewer configuration options, the easier the software will be to test and maintain. In practice, though, as Inkscape's usage grows and fills in more and more niches, the need for usage-mode-specific UI layouts is going to grow. > I still think most users make it to some intermediate level. > If you look at hours spent with a software, users that only > touch it once in a while don't count. Well, it depends on how you look at the project's goals. Certainly, our most important audience is users who contribute back to the project, and as such it's true that these users will be spending enough time with the project to get over small usability issues such as UI clutter. (Remember, every Inkscape user was a novice at one time.) However, Inkscape also has the goal of being a member of the larger open source community, and I think this involves embracing some of the more occasional style usages, such as if someone just needs to knock out a quick flyer for their club, or make a gift card for a relative. It would be a great sign of success if Inkscape were the only 2D drawing program required to be on the open source desktop. Bryce

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bug with create tiled clones
by unknown＠example.com 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

create an object than go to edit/clone/create tiled clones type a negative entry ( like: -10,00%) in the tab "scale" and click on create to see the crash. inkscape 0.45pre2-1! thanks Kirk --------------------------------- Vinci i biglietti per FIFA World Cup in Germania!

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