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Crash occuring when copying an object with tile fill.
by Lee McLain 11 Sep '04

11 Sep '04

Hi Everyone, I have gotten this crash to occur almost a dozen times, so at least it's consistent! The first step is copying an object from one document to another that contains a tile fill. When the object is pasted, it does not contain the tile fill from the other document. Then, when the fill/stroke dialog is either selected or turned on, Inkscape crashes comletely. Most of the time it will save a work-in-progress(very nice!) I am running Inkscape 0.39 on my HP ze4125 laptop running Suse 9.0, kernel 2.4.21-243 with 256mb RAM. The bug has been logged on the SF bug tracker list. Thanks, Lee

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Fill/Gradient changes since .39?
by Joshua A. Andler 09 Sep '04

09 Sep '04

I have a drawing that I've been working on and it's slowly coming together (done 100% in inkscape baby!), however if I open it in any of the newer builds since .39 (the autobuilds by Daniel) some of the places where I have some gradients and transparency are being "rendered" differently. I don't want to say they're displaying "wrong" (given I don't know what modifications have been made to source and it may have always done it wrong before and now it's fixed), but it's definitely not the same as it used to be... Here's a link showing a comparison of old & new, so perhaps someone can help me to understand what's different. http://scislac.com/ink/inkprob.jpg As you can see, the one on left is the way I intended, and the right is just "rendering" things much differently. The translucent part of her shirt appears to just be mostly clear... the gradient objects I have on the midriff area (skin shading) are also not looking the same... and the biggest change of all is all the stuff with the skirt. There are many objects that are used to achieve the effects needed (lighting/shading mostly), and when it shows them, it displays how truly crude my work is... but hey it's faster & easier. Back on topic... so does anyone know if this is because of a permanent change that was made? Or is it a temporary thing? My main concern at this point is that some of the objects showing through the skirt are at a lower # in the z-order than the actual skirt, and I can't seem to get them "behind" it. So fixing it isn't working too well and it's not worth my time if this is a temporary issue (plus I'm curious as to what causes it). And this is a little OT, and probably belongs in another list... but... Does anyone know if there are plans to have better "node manipulation" tools? Meaning, the current way of being able to add nodes is ok... (a pain to work with for the most part... but can be VERY handy at other times) but are there plans to add a way to directly add nodes wherever you want on a line (versus the "in the middle" method)? I guess something akin to Illustrator's node tools where you directly work with them is what I'm looking for... Thanks! -Josh

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Re : Various publications about Inkscape.
by Gazal, Geraud (MED) 09 Sep '04

09 Sep '04

Hi all, here is the sum up of the article I've read in Linux+ (French edition, Number 2, September/October 2004) Title : Inkscape, où vas-tu ? (Inkscape, where are you going ?) Author : unknown Sum-up : The article presents Inkscape as a drawing application, forked from Sodipodi (due to divergent goals and opinions about development-process) aiming at offering a free & SVG compliant software. The author points out that : Inkscape is undergoing a Gtkmm'ification' and that its development process is very open, allowing fast and efficient integration of new features (interface, booleans, autopackage) and in line with developers and users (even beginners) needs. He also notes that a clear Roadmap is identified. Open clipart is mentionned as a fast evoluting sister project. Apart from a few small mistakes (example Gtkmm'ification' is not finished) it provides a very positive feedback about the application If some of you can have an access to / afford buying another edition (English, German, Spanish, Polish...) it might be intersting to compare the different versions/translations I can scan and mail the French article to anyone asking for it. Regards, Matiphas PS : I've added a link about the linuxgraphix tutorial in the wiki. I can add this small review if you want.

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Re: Printing Oddities
by Crispin Veall 09 Sep '04

09 Sep '04

>I"ll start with a couple of stupid questions: Good idea, I can never think of all the information people might want :-) >* Can you print from other applications? Yes. >* If so, which ones? Gimp, OpenOffice, a2ps (when printing out code, text etc). > * What printing interface are you using (e.g. CUPS, lprng)? CUPS, but in inkscape I just "| lp" >* Can you export to PS / PNG, then import and print from the GIMP[0]? I can export to png, open in gimp and print. Exporting to ps then opening in gimp results in just one layer/object showing - but this could be a transparency issue. I was trying to get further last night, and tried to print a png via a2ps. This was delegated to ImageMagick, which then proceeded to print nothing. I tried opening the png directly into IMageMagick. This showed up, but still wouldn't print (or rather this time printed a blank sheet of paper). I'm not sure if this helps... Thanks for your time, Crispin

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OS/X problem: dialogs *above* tool tips and pop-up menus!
by Michel Schinz 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Hi, I have recently installed inkscape on my Mac through Fink, and I have the following problem: the dialogs appear in front of all the other (X11) windows created by Inkscape, including tool tips and pop-up menus. This means that when I open the preferences dialog (for example), the tool-tips for the dialog's buttons appear *behind* the dialog itself, and the same goes for pop-up menus! This makes inkscape pretty hard to use, to say the least :-). I found out that I'm able to cycle through the various values of a pop-up menu using the mouse wheel, and therefore tried to change the value for "dialogs on top" (or something like this) from "None" to "Normal" and then "Aggressive", but this didn't solve my problem. I also tried to disable the "focus follows mouse" policy of my window manager (Apple's WM), without success either. Is there any Mac user out there with the same problem? Does anyone have an idea of how to fix it? (I must say that I have several other X11 applications on my Mac [OpenOffice, Gimp, XEphem and Scribus], and they don't have this problem). Apart from that, thanks to all the developers for the wonderful work on Inkscape! Michel.

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best practices: Inkscape svg to native eps
by Joel Moxley 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Hi yall. I've happily been using Inkscape since the Sodipodi fork without any problems. However, recently I attempted to prepare a few figures for publication as native eps files. I encountered the following issues, and wanted to ask for yalls input on best practices for accomplishing svg to native eps conversion. Simple example figure and inkview rendering: http://ppp250.mit.edu/jfmoxley/www/strainVerificationPCR.svg http://ppp250.mit.edu/jfmoxley/www/inkviewScreenshot.png The batik pretty print comes out a little goofy (the text is improperly placed): http://ppp250.mit.edu/jfmoxley/www/inkviewBatikScreenshot.png The adobesvg seems ok: http://ppp250.mit.edu/jfmoxley/www/adobesvgScreenshot.png But if I take the svg to Illustrator in Windows and save it as eps, it comes out goofy (the text is more slanted). http://ppp250.mit.edu/jfmoxley/www/illustratorepsScreenshot.png Also, after printing in inkscape, I lose the alpha transparency http://ppp250.mit.edu/jfmoxley/www/printedsvgScreenshot.png Anyways, I'd love any input yall had on "best practices" for postscript conversion! I use Inkscape-0.37 on a gentoo linux 2.4 platform. Thanks, J

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Various publications about Inkscape.
by Gazal, Geraud (MED) 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Hi all, www.linuxgraphic.org is a French web site dedicated to graphic creation under linux (strange, isn't it ?). * Yesterday it has published a small tutorial (in French) dedicated to inkscape users (but applicable to any graphic creation app, I think) : how to have a 'mirror effect'. Quite nice. I will ask the site if they are ok if I translate this doc in English and then make it available from the inkscape website. The tutorial is there : http://linuxgraphic.org/section2d/articles/miroir_Inkscape/index.html * They've also announced the release of Open Clipart 0.06 on the main page. Linux+ (http://www.lpmagazine.org/en/modules/news/) European (Polish) magazine translated and published in French, English, German, Spanish and Czech has issued an article on Inkscape too. I have the French version. I'll produce a sum up + translation in English on mailing list. Regards, Matiphas

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Printing Oddities in Inkscape
by Crispin Veall 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Hi All, I seem to be having great difficulties printing anything from inkscape onto my printer (Epson Stylus Photo 870). If I attempt to print anything, it comes out as a large grey square, with the vaguest hint of the darkest parts of the image elongated down the right-hand side. I've tried using print direct, print image as bitmap and piping through lp, and kprinter, to no avail. I can print out to a laser printer at work, but that's a raw PS one. Any suggestions on what to check, how to narrow down the culprit, or how to clarify what's wrong most welcome. I've tried to compile inkscape with --gnome-print, but that completely failed (I've raised a bug). Apart from that, I'm really impressed with Inkscape - a big thankyou to all who've helped with it. Cheers, Crispin

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installing microsoft corefonts
by Jon Phillips 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

An interesting page...if you are seeking that compatiability with windows-world fonts... http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ -- Jon Phillips KOREA.PH.010.3140.7483 USA.PH.858.361.2811 jon@...87... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu/) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu/)

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Line reported to be longer than I expected
by Jasper van de Gronde 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

When I load something like this: <svg width="200mm" height="400mm" viewBox="0 0 200 400" version="1.1"> <g fill="none" stroke="black" stroke-width="2" > <line x1="1" y1="0" x2="1" y2="400" /> </g> </svg> The line is reported to be 2mm longer than I expected (402mm), even though it touches the bottom and top of the page perfectly, the page is reported to be exactly 400mm high. Is this a bug or a feature?

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London Linux Expo 6-7 October 2004
by Plinnell 06 Sep '04

06 Sep '04

Hi all, Correction, the date is 6-7 October 2004. Cheers, Peter

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Re: [Clipart] Logo vote
by Jon Phillips 04 Sep '04

04 Sep '04

I'm tallying up now, if you are trying to get a vote in, then get it in within the next few minutes!!! Jon On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 05:27, Alberto Simões wrote: > How are we on votes? Too far from a winner? > > Cheers, > ALb > > > On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 21:12:02 +0200, bvirlet <bvirlet@...155...> wrote: > > Hello, here is my vote : > > > > http://openclipart.org/clipart//OCALLogos/ocal_logo_0.5_01.svg > > without the little problems in the text (i don't know, maybe is it my viewer) > > > > Bruno > > _______________________________________________ > > clipart mailing list > > clipart@...91... > > http://freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/clipart > > -- Jon Phillips KOREA.PH.010.3140.7483 USA.PH.858.361.2811 jon@...87... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu/) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu/)

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Scale Journal 8/9 Call For Participation + Guest Editor Joel Swanson + http://scale.ucsd.edu/
by Jon Phillips 04 Sep '04

04 Sep '04

Greetings, + please forward + This email is a call for submissions from theorists and practitioners in the following fields: Art, Architecture, Communication, Comparative Philosophy, Computation, Computer Audio, Critical Theory, Design, Literature, Media (New and Old), Music, Performance, and Software Design. SCALE (http://scale.ucsd.edu) would like to encourage you to submit "work" for its upcoming online-only August & September issue. SCALE is a non-profit journal that explores new modes of production and dissemination based on open-source and networked communities. The theme for the August/September SCALE is APOCALYPSE. As we look forward to the coming election in November, it seems prudent to reinvest ourselves in exploring the possibilities of our own self-destruction. Often rooted in religious and science-fiction genres, apocalyptic themes have proven fruitful as a framework from which to question our collective hopes, fears, and concerns, on a local and universal scale. In your submissions, feel free to explore and exploit your personal imaginations of APOCALYPSE as a loose starting point for your submission. Please keep in mind that SCALE likes to abide by terms obliquely, and as such encourages all types of submissions, from dirty sketches and musings, to polished images and essays. Initially formulated within the graduate programs of the Visual Arts at the University of California, San Diego, SCALE was created by Jon Phillips (http://www.rejon.org) and Patrick W. Deegan (http://www.pwdeegan.org) as a strategy of response to a growing interest in developing Open Source communities across the globe. SCALE is a monthly publication living in both PDF print and online PDF/WIKI format. +++++++++++++ SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: + Additional instructions for submission can be found at http://scale.ucsd.edu under “Read the File and Style Guidelines.” + Text or Image submissions must be in PDF format NOT exceeding 10MB and 8.5” x 11”in dimension. Because this month is ONLINE-ONLY, color submissions are encouraged. Images must be 300dpi. + Multimedia submissions will be hyperlinked for download from a page within in the compiled PDF publication. If submitting a file for linkage, it is recommended you also submit some type of graphic image in consideration of how your piece will be represented in the layout. By doing so, we can include the URL to your file within the image provided by you. If other circumstances are desired, please let us know. + For Multimedia submissions, please upload the actual file and NOT the URL to where it is located on behalf of your own site. WE WILL BE HOSTING THESE FILES ON THE SCALE SERVER. However, mentions of your respective websites are allowed. + All work submitted will be initially accredited to you unless suggested otherwise, however, in its online format the work will be deemed Open Content (as defined by http://www.creativecommons.org) and could possibly be subject to artistic reinterpretation (at a later date) on behalf of SCALE’s community of readers. +++++++++++++ DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSIONS: + The submission process begins now and ends effectively on Monday, September 20, 2004. + In the week to follow, we will be compiling and publishing the online-only August/September issue. + Submissions, progress, and status can be immediately checked online. +++++++++++++ If you have any questions, please contact any of us directly. Thank you. We look forward to your submissions . . . The September & August SCALE team: Joel Swanson | Guest Editor, August & September Issue SCALE. | jeswanson@...221... | http://hippocrit.com Patrick Deegan | Co-founder of SCALE | pdeegan@...221... | http://www.pwdeegan.org Jon Phillips | Co-founder of SCALE | jon@...87... | http://www.rejon.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Select Under
by bulia byak 02 Sep '04

02 Sep '04

> But how to `modifie with the mouse` the object below ? > For example : > I select an object that is below an other, > and after this want to move it; a click-drag on this selected area > select and move the object at the top. You can resize/rotate/skew the object that you selected by alt-click as usual with handles, and you can move it with arrow keys (I always use arrows for moving). However you are right that dragging such object with mouse won't work because it will switch the selection to the topmost object again. I think what we need is a new Alt+drag mode which would mean "drag what is selected now, without selecting anything else no matter where I start the drag." I will think about it some more and if I don't find any problems with this idea I'll implement it.

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OCAL logos
by Felix Rabe 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

Hi Jon, Am I mistaken or is none of the logos at http://www.openclipart.org/cgi-bin/navigate/OCALLogos complying to the GNOME HIG at http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/? Greetings, - Felix

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logo vote for OCAL
by Jon Phillips 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

Hello Inkscapers, We are voting on the OCAL logo right now. Please submit your top 3 logo choices from here: http://www.openclipart.org/cgi-bin/navigate/OCALLogos to the Open Clip Art Library list. We need more eyes on the logos and have had few votes. The vote cutoff time is FRIDAY afternoon 5 PM PST. If you are not on the mailing list, then now is a good time to jump on the project and pick up a shovel by voting and submitting your metadata rich graphics! Jon PS: You can also submit your logo votes to my email address... -- Jon Phillips KOREA.PH.010.3140.7483 USA.PH.858.361.2811 jon@...87... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu/) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu/)

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Re: Producing SVG input for Inkscape
by Bob Jamison 01 Sep '04

01 Sep '04

Bill Peel wrote: >Perhaps everyone knows about this already but I have found the free potrace program very >useful for tracing bitmap line-art into svg format. The resulting svg file can then be >imported into Inkscape for further manipulation. I have also produced diagrams using >various LaTeX drawing macro packages in eps format, converted them to pbm format using >Ghostscript and then to svg using potrace. This could be a way of converting suitable >public domain clipart from bitmap format into svg format for use with Inkscape. > > This is a very good suggestion! So good (and so easy to hook up to Inkscape) that we added Potrace to Inkscape this weekend. :) It is in CVS now, in a limited fashion. Just select the image, and choose the "Trace bitmap" menu item. A dialog for adjusting parameters will be added later. But this simple implementation, with a hardcoded 50% brightness threshold seems to work fairly well. Thanks for the idea! Bob

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moving forward (Was: Re: cause of crashes)
by MenTaLguY 29 Aug '04

29 Aug '04

Ok, so it appears we're currently waiting on someone to test with a build of libgc that we know to have been compiled with the appropriate options (this means C++ support, but nothing else -- particularly no malloc replacement). So, is someone willing to assume responsibility for making a new build of libgc to test with, and documenting what steps they took when building it? -mental

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ANNOUNCE Scribus 1.2 Released
by Atlantic Tech Solutions 29 Aug '04

29 Aug '04

The Scribus Team is pleased to announce the release of Scribus 1.2 - Open Source Desktop Publishing. The 1.2 release is the culmination of over 1 year of hard work since last year's 1.0 release. The Scribus team urges all users and distros to use this latest release. The Scribus Team is also proud to announce the first commercial implementation of Scribus for commercial newspaper production. Last month, the premier issue of Twin Tier Times, a US weekly newspaper was launched using a production workflow centered on Scribus and other Open Source applications including GIMP 2.0, Inkscape and others. Among the major changes and features in 1.2 since the release of Version 1.0: * A new EPS/PS importer, which can import EPS and PS files as vector or postscript outlines, which can then be edited as native Scribus objects. * A dedicated documentation site, http://docs.scribus.net has been implemented. There are French and German translations in progress. * Over 800 bug reports and user feature requests have been squashed. * Scribus now features a New from/ Save as Template plug-in, which enables end users to quickly generate preformatted documents. This is useful for both first time users, as well as experts. * The Scribus GUI is now translated into 27 languages. * Scribus 1.2 features new print previewer which has the ability to render CMYK separations on screen, transparency, UCR (Under Color Removal) to give users a true postscript generated preview of the page. * A new table feature to create basic tables within Scribus. * Many enhancements to text frames including multi-columned text, baseline grids, new contour options, tabs and drop caps. * Several new plug-ins for exporting documents as images, as well as special typography plug-ins for Czech, French and other languages. Scribus was chosen by Trolltech as one of their "Cool Applications". We on the Scribus Team are honored to be recognized as such and appreciate the recognition. The Scribus Team will present the first public demo at KDE Community World Summit 2004 "aKademy" 21-29 August, 2004 Ludwigsburg (Stuttgart Region), Germany. Enjoy!

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Producing SVG input for Inkscape
by Bill Peel 28 Aug '04

28 Aug '04

Perhaps everyone knows about this already but I have found the free potrace program very useful for tracing bitmap line-art into svg format. The resulting svg file can then be imported into Inkscape for further manipulation. I have also produced diagrams using various LaTeX drawing macro packages in eps format, converted them to pbm format using Ghostscript and then to svg using potrace. This could be a way of converting suitable public domain clipart from bitmap format into svg format for use with Inkscape. Thanks Bill Peel

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wireframe view
by Aewyn 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

Hello, Working with lot's of semi transparent objects I ran a serious problem. I can't select an object underlaying objects, bacause at this moment the object upper is selected. I can use tab to switch objects, but working with 100 object, it is impossible. So it would be nice a view "wireframe", with possibility border selecting. It is useful anyhow, because finding a trasparent object can be a challenge sometimes. --- Draft view would be nice too, because the work very-very slow with lots of semi-transparent / gradient objects. --- And layers. It is absolut necessary. I know U are working on it, so it is just a sign on it. Thanks, Aewyn

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Linux Format UK Article
by Plinnell 18 Aug '04

18 Aug '04

Hi all, I wanted to let you know the Sept issue Linux Format UK has published a very nice review of Linux drawing applications, as well as a short tutorial for both Inkscape and Scribus. Inkscape 0.38 got 8/10 overall and tied with OO draw to top honors. Overall a very positive review. Ease of use got 9/10. Many of the comments on missing features are already in 0.39 or are on the 0.40 roadmap. Summing up, they said: "The future of Inkscape looks bright, especially if planned cooperation with Scribus and the GIMP comes to fruition, which would finally realise the concept of a full-spec graphics suite to Linux....The crucial omissions are support for PDF and EPS formats, though getting around this is not too onerous with a little help from Scribus." If it is available locally it might be worth getting. Enjoy, Peter

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No fonts
by John Mellor 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

After much struggle with freetype problems I have inkscape appearing to work apart from nothing in the font dialog and nothing when I type text. Here is the error: mellor@...189...:~$ inkscape ** (inkscape:10799): CRITICAL **: file pango-fontmap.c: line 102 (pango_font_map_list_families): assertion `fontmap != NULL' failed ** (inkscape:10799): CRITICAL **: file pango-fontmap.c: line 83 (pango_font_map_load_font): assertion `fontmap != NULL' failed ** (inkscape:10799): CRITICAL **: file pango-fontmap.c: line 83 (pango_font_map_load_font): assertion `fontmap != NULL' failed I cannot find the file pango-fontmap.c. Sodipodi appears to use gnome-fontface.c for the fonts. I have pango installed, but I have a vague feeling this might be a gtk2 problem. I am using gtk+2-2.2.4 in Slackware 9.1. Can anyone help please?

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Preserving transparency
by Adam Pearson 15 Aug '04

15 Aug '04

Hi all Showing my ignorance here, but what is the best way of obtaining a .jpg file from a .svg file done in Inkcape, while preserving transparencies and true colours? I am having a bit of a bother doing this - saving as .svg or .png then opening in Illustrator, Photoshop, Fireworks ... doesn't preserve the integrity of the original. I want a .jpg for web use - not everyone can read .svg, can they? And .png files are rather large? Any comments will be very welcome ... Regards from Adam in Oz

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textFlow Example
by Jon Phillips 13 Aug '04

13 Aug '04

I made a full page letter overview of inkscape using the new textFlow features. I wrote it in a text editor. Once a UI is done for this feature, the usefulness of inkscape is going to scale incredibly!!! http://www.inkscape.org/doc/index.php I also split the documentation into user and developer on the website and updated the news. Jon -- Jon Phillips USA.PH.858.361.2811 jon@...87... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu/) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu/)

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