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[Inkscape-devel] 0.39pre2 (fwd)
by Bryce Harrington 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:05:14 -0700 From: Ted Gould <ted@...10...> To: Inkscape Devel List <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: [Inkscape-devel] 0.39pre2 https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438&package_id=991… It exists, it is alive! It will most definitely not be the final release, but it is a good point to start beating up Inkscape. This is not for general use, but more for people who follow the development of Inkscape (being subscribed to this e-mail list is a good start :) I went ahead and put it in the SF file area with a big nasty note to scare away casual users. I think that it is as good of place as any... thoughts are welcome. --Ted

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experimental CVS ?
by Florent 28 Jun '04

28 Jun '04

Hi, What is the CVS's command for the experimental inkscape ? Sorry, I don't find it... Florent

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Locked objects
by Adam Pearson 26 Jun '04

26 Jun '04

Hi all I discovered today that you can edit a locked object - size, shape, position colour of fill and stroke, alpha value (but not position), copy ... maybe other things ... while keeping it locked. Just TAB to the object and do the adjustments. Maybe everyone knows this if so my apologies. Regards, Adam

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Pango testing - help needed!
by bulia byak 26 Jun '04

26 Jun '04

As you know, we recently switched our text system to a new library called Pango. Now that some of the worst bugs and regressions are fixed (definitely not all), and we need your help in testing it thoroughly. 1. Here are the confirmed Pango niceties so far (i.e. what is tested and works): - Text is much smoother. No more ugly autohinting gaps between letters in small sizes. Letters move smoothly when you change letterspacing by Alt+< and Alt+>. - Auto kerning pairs (from the font) now work. For example "AV" will now be kerned together automatically in most decent fonts. - On Windows, non-ASCII text works (tested with Cyrillic). Localized font face names (such as "italic" translated into a local language for Windows fonts such as Arial) are no longer a problem. 2. Here is what SHOULD work now but is not yet tested because we don't speak these languages. This is where we need your help: - Right-To-Left text (Hebrew, Arabic) and BIDI (bidirectional mixed text) seems to work but I'm not sure. - Contextual letterforms that depend on the position in a word and script-specific ligatures (Devanagari) should work. - Chinese and Japanese need testing, especially for how good vertical text works (it is enabled by a button in the Text and Font dialog). 3. And finally the things that don't work (yet): - Symbol fonts seem to have problems, at least the symbol.ttf from Windows. Any help or insights is appreciated. - Fuzzy font matching that worked in 0.38 is not reenabled yet. (No warnings on font substitutions, etc.) Only Italic and Bold faces within a family work so far. This is being worked on. So, grab the latest CVS and play with text as much as you can. We're interested to hear any reports, positive as well as negative. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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compile error: strcasestr undeclared
by Albert 25 Jun '04

25 Jun '04

Hi everyone When compiling inkscape 0.38.1 in macosx I get this error: nr-type-directory.cpp: In function `bool ink_strstr(const char*, const char*)': nr-type-directory.cpp:302: `strcasestr' undeclared (first use this function) nr-type-directory.cpp:302: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) I'm lost here. If anyone has got through a similar error, please provide hints on how to go through. Thank you. Albert

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Opacity
by ttyS0 25 Jun '04

25 Jun '04

Why default fill-opacity value is 0.75? In W3C SVG Specification default value is 1.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/painting.html#OpacityFillOpacityProperty --------------------------------------------------- http://spalah.souceforge.net

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Exporting question
by Daniel Klein 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

I am not a visual person. I am not a designer, not a drawer, not a painter, not a photographer. I'm a man of words, really, if I need to be creative, it's words. Having said that, can I sue you for the time I've lost playing with Inkscape? No? Goddamnit. It's wonderful. Intuitive. The 'everything should be keyboard accessible' philosophy rocks. It has everything. Yesterday I tried, to amuse myself, making a mockup panelling for a comic that I'm working on with a visual artist (you guessed it - I mostly do the words :P).. it's incredible how painful proper layout with CSS can be. As these things go, 'to amuse myself' turned into a holy crusade and I would not rest until I could churn out professional layout mockups by the dozen. So I got Inkscape. The next 2 hours were spent rotating and resizing stars and occasionally saying 'wow'. I shake my angry fist at you all. Now I don't ONLY write here to stroke all of your egos. I have a little problem. Actually I feel ashamed to ask, because I'm sure newbies have stumbled over this a hundred times, but I could find nothing in either the archives nor the Wiki, so I'll ask here and add it to the archives: When exporting my wonderful drawing, I get a certain problem: First couple of attempts, all was black in the png. Now, after making a somewhat more complex .svg, PART of it shows up in the export. Please refer to http://ubermutant.de/~bringa/page1.svg (16k). In this mockup, only the mocked magazine cover on the right hand side shows up in an export. (I needn't mention that you shouldn't look at the content.. this is a mock-up only :P). If anyone could clear this up for me, that'd be great. One could also have some sort of Usage-related FAQ in the Wiki, and this would be a good first item to start with, I think. Daniel

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some ideas...
by Florent 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

Hi all, I think that it could be a good idea to have a "pot of painting" tool. (I would say a tool to create a new object compared to the layouts which surrounds it) I think that the booleans operation should be able to apply on a group of object. And a really thanks to the Inkscape's team to make possible this great SVG editor (and sorry about my wrong english :-) ) A sensitive-all option About the "Gradient Editor", sometime, when I modifie a parameter, it's directly apply to my gradation, and sometime not... Florent http://www.florentgabriel.ouvaton.org/GalerieSVG/Galerie.html

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bezier tool settings
by Albert 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

Hi all Is there any way to adjust Bezier curve helper points so that they remain aligned, i.e. they remain on a straigth line that runs over the central point? In this way, curves don't make sharp turns unless helper points are over the central point. If this is not implemented, I could help with it if someone could point me to the file. I have already done this in a java plugin for ImageJ. Albert

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Sizing :)
by Milen Dzhumerov 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

Hello people :) I have made a logo of a project and now want to use it. But I want it to be 90x90 px and the borders to be a square. The logo now is very big and the size of the document is very big. Is there a way to automatically reduce the size to 90x90 or something near this and to place the object in the center vertically and horizontally.

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compiling Inkscape in MACOSX : success!
by Albert 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

This is my story on compiling and running Inkscape in macosx 10.2.8 with XDarwin and a gnome installation. Thank you to Colin in this mailing list for sharing his experience on similar compiling problems in Solaris. Albert ============= OS: macosx 10.2.8 Need a gnome installation. May get that through fink. Install xml-parser-pm560 in finkcommander (the xml perl parser) Set a few environmental variables: setenv CPATH "/sw/include" setenv LIBRARY_PATH "/usr/X11R6/lib:/sw/lib" setenv LIBS "-L/sw/lib -lintl " Error: No package 'sigc++-1.2' found ---------> Install libsigc++-shlibs in finkcommander Same error: installed libsigc is version 1.0.4 ---------> Installing libsigc 1.2.5 from source, from sourceforge. Same error. setenv PKG_CONFIG_PATH "/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig" (where the sigc++-1.2.pc file is) ok output: ======= Configuration: Source code location: . Compiler: g++ CPPFLAGS: CXXFLAGS: -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter -g -O2 LDFLAGS: Use POPT argument parser: yes Use Xft font database: yes Use gnome-print: no Use openoffice files: yes Use MMX optimizations: no make ==== Fails at: nr-type-directory.cpp: In function `bool ink_strstr(const char*, const char*)': nr-type-directory.cpp:302: `strcasestr' undeclared (first use this function) nr-type-directory.cpp:302: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) Colin from inkscape-users mailing list suggested commenting out the #ifndef WIN32 ... #else .. #endif, so that a strcasestr function is provided by the nr-type-directry.cpp file itself. WORKS Now fails at: In file included from /usr/include/dirent.h:64, from init.cpp:15: /usr/include/sys/dirent.h:73: 'u_int32_t' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/sys/dirent.h:74: 'u_int16_t' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/sys/dirent.h:75: 'u_int8_t' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. /usr/include/sys/dirent.h:76: 'u_int8_t' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. On the web I've found dirent.h needs the declarations from types.h rigth before it, or won't compile. Let's try. In file ./src/extension/init.cpp ... #include <types.h> -----> FAILS #include "/usr/include/ppc/types.h" ----> WORKS Developers could introduce a #ifdef darwin #include "/usr/include/ppc/types.h" #endif COMPILED ! Now, ./inkscape in src folder works, but prints many critical problems. It all has to do with hard-wired links to /usr/local/share/... folders, non-existant when not installed. make install WORKS without printing errors. Good.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] rounded stars fun
by Bryce Harrington 23 Jun '04

23 Jun '04

Whoa, that's extremely cool bulia... http://www.bryceharrington.com/round_stars.png Bryce On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, bulia byak wrote: > Today I was in a mood to do something funny... > > * A wild variety of central-symmetric curvilinear shapes, including > softly rounded stars and polygons, can be created using the new > Roundedness control on the options panel for the Star tool. > > The value is a ratio of the length of Bezier control handle to the > length of the corresponding polygon side. Values of 0.2 to 0.3 give > normal smooth rounded corners. Most other values (negatives are > permitted too) deliver tons of sheer excitement. > > Enjoy! > > P.S. Following which I'm going to be absent for a few days, as I have > an urgent paid job to do. If you need me for something, please try to > not forget what you need me for until I'm back :) > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > >

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Menu font size
by Maur 22 Jun '04

22 Jun '04

I was wondering how I can could the menu fonts in Inkspace; it displays display significantly larger than other GTK applications. I found that by modifying the gtkrc files in \Inkscape\etc\gtk-2.0\, I could get the size I wanted by replacing this line: # gtk-font-name="tahoma 12" with this one: gtk-font-name="verdana 6.5"

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Inkscape is spectacular -- feature requests?
by Eric Jonas 22 Jun '04

22 Jun '04

Hello! Inkscape is really spectacular, and may once and for all rid me of my chronic dependence on Illustrator. The 0.39 sources compiled on my debian box with minimal hassle, and I'm quite happily using clones right now. But what I'd really like : ) would be some way of storing the original source for a clone in a file. I use Illustrator / will use inkscrape almost exclusively to diagram the internal guts of digital systems, with lots of symbols for flip-flops and the like. Thus it would be great to have a system-wide "register.svg" file that I could use as a base for the clone objects. I'm somewhat familiar with SVG and XML, and realize that this might not be possible. Has anyone else wanted this sort of feature, and if so, has there been any thought as to how to implement it? I'd be willing to try and hack on it (I've got some gtkmm background) if I wouldn't be stepping on anyones' toes ,and someone could point me in the right direction. Thanks again for making such a spectacular piece of free software! ...Eric Jonas

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Sensitive an object ?
by Florent 21 Jun '04

21 Jun '04

Hi all, My object is unsensitive...so now, I can't select it So, how to sensitive an object ? Sorry, i really don't find it... Florent

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Re: [Inkscape-user] terminology - help needed
by bulia byak 21 Jun '04

21 Jun '04

>I'm sorry to come nagging right now, but i started sodipodi recently, and >discovered, that i like the zoom tool options floating around all the time. >woul�d >it be a big conceptual problem, for all this toolbars to be individualy >dispacheble? Generally leaving a tool options panel on when the tool is not active would be a problem. But most zoom panel buttons are not really tool specific, they're global verbs, and they're in that panel simply because we did not have another. When I add a Commands panel at the top we can move some of the most commonly used zoom buttons to it. Which ones you use the most? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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timetable2svg
by Trent Buck 21 Jun '04

21 Jun '04

Last year I kluged together a C program that makes my school timetable in SVG for me out of a plain text definition. I kluged further to make it do generic tables to help my old one-banana job at Coles. This year I rewrote it from the ground up. It's still very messy, but it does: * Notice when you put one box on top of another * Put cute little pointy bits on all the corners. If you're still reading after fully two paragraphs, here are the links: example input & output: http://yoyo.its.monash.edu.au/~trent/src/src/examples/ sources: http://yoyo.its.monash.edu.au/~trent/src/src/mktable.c http://yoyo.its.monash.edu.au/~trent/src/src/convenience.h http://yoyo.its.monash.edu.au/~trent/src/src/convenience.c instructions: cc *.c -o mktable ./mktable < foo.table > foo.svg HAND -trent -- If it wasn't for C, we'd be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL.

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terminology - help needed
by bulia byak 21 Jun '04

21 Jun '04

>1. One >2. Two >3. Three ALmost perfect, but unfortunately only works by referring to the original mailing list thread :) >Lose the plurality: command bar, tool control bar, toolbox. I think losing the plurality only makes sense if we combine words into one, e.g. "commandbar", otherwise it's confusing (which command? which tool control?) >1 Main Bar It's not "main" in any reasonable sense imho. >2 Tweak Bar ([Fine] Tuning? Not descriptive enough. >2 [Tool] Options? They're not exactly options; they're controls that make sense for the tool and let you use it. >3. Tool Options bar And 3 is not options either, it has tools themselves. >Calling it the `toolbox' is a bit of a misnomer, since it's not a box >anymore. `Tool Bar' is worse, unfortunately. Yes. >1. "Application Toolbar" (for generally-applicable actions) Maybe, but kinda vague. Don't other bars belong to the same application? > 2. "Modal Toolbar" (the horizontal modal action/option bar) Correct technically, but confusing. A modal dialog is the one which freezes the app; what does a modal toolbar freeze? >3. "Tool Selector" (the vertical tool selector bar) Hmm. "Please select the Selector tool on the Tool Selector." Not gonna work :) >1. "Function Bar" Function or Functions? Anyway this seems to be a close equivalent to "Commands bar". _________________________________________________________________ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-user] autosave ?
by bulia byak 20 Jun '04

20 Jun '04

>** ERROR **: file xml/repr-util.cpp: line 382 (int >sp_repr_compare_position(SPRepr*, SPRepr*)): assertion failed: >(sp_repr_parent(first) == sp_repr_parent(second)) >aborting... >Aborted Please try to reproduce it and mark what you were doing for it to crash. At least, which boolean op caused this? >So I'm appealing to anyone who can create an autosave :-) We do have an autosave, it just does not always work :) _________________________________________________________________ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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terminology - help needed
by bulia byak 20 Jun '04

20 Jun '04

There are going to be three "toolbars" in Inkscape: 1. Under the menu, horizontal, with buttons for common non-tool-specific operations such as Open, Save, etc. 2. Below 1, horizontal, with too-specific buttons and controls (exists now and is called "top panel" or "aux toolbar"). 3. Vertical at the left, with tool buttons. The question is: How to call them? They are all "toolbars" technically but using the word "toolbar" without distinction is going to be very confusing. Even using "toolbar" for 3 only is going to be confusing because people are used to calling "toolbars" any horizontal rows of buttons. So the names need to be unique but at the same time descriptive and short. Most importantly, they must stick. "Top panel" for 2 did not stick, somehow. Here is the best I could think of: 1. Commands bar 2. Tool controls bar 3. Toolbox Any other ideas? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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autosave ?
by Florent 20 Jun '04

20 Jun '04

hello, I've just got a problem, I worked on a Tux ... just using a boolean operation when ...arg... a bug closed my inkscape window...:-( ** ERROR **: file xml/repr-util.cpp: line 382 (int sp_repr_compare_position(SPRepr*, SPRepr*)): assertion failed: (sp_repr_parent(first) == sp_repr_parent(second)) aborting... Aborted I used the latest version CVS (0.39) and I know ... I use it at my own risk So I'm appealing to anyone who can create an autosave :-) Thanks, Florent

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Easy testing of Inkscape builds on Linux with Autopackage
by Bryce Harrington 19 Jun '04

19 Jun '04

Hi Guys, One of the cool new features for this upcoming release is something called 'autopackage', which if it works, promises to make it very easy to install Inkscape on Linux, especially if you're using an RPM-based system. But to make sure this works we need folks to test it out. It's easy to do so. Here are some screenshots so you can see what it'll look like: http://autopackage.org/gallery.html First, download this file: http://navi.cx/~mike/inkscape/inkscape-0.39cvs.package Next, follow the four steps on this page: http://autopackage.org/docs/howto-install/index.html Finally, write down anything that you find confusing or have problems with during the installation or while using the program, and put your feedback into the bug tracker for Inkscape. (See Report Bugs on the Inkscape website.) Note that each day you can re-run the .package file to update to the latest and greatest inkscape code. Thanks, Bryce

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Re: [Clipart] [Fwd: SVG Open 2004 - Paper Acceptance]
by Bryce Harrington 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

Congrats Jon, sounds like it's going to be a very interesting paper. :-) Bryce On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Jon Phillips wrote: > Arg...I though I'd be online all the time once in Korea, but just have > now found a place to get wireless. I'm forwarding my acceptance to > SVGOPEN (its at the bottom of the email). > > Here are the comments from the reviewers: > > > It sounds great to have a paper about content generation. Many SVG > papers are about applications, not art. It would be good to hear about > any other artwork collections and how their communities contribute and > describe the experience with the SVG community so far. Suggestions for > increasing knowledged about this project would be good too. > > > > SVG is a lot about sharing kowledge and artwork. The Open Clip Art > Library, as the abstract suggested, a combination of high quality > artwork and RDF metadata, is a very welcome contribution for both the > Open Source and SVG community. I am myself a regular user of Open Source > software and appreciate the steady progress of Open source graphics > applications. Keep up the good work and looking forward to your > presentation in Tokyo! > > > I will start working on this paper later in the summer, but it is good > to know that we have promotion for our coming work... > > Jon > > > -----Forwarded Message----- > > From: Jun Fujisawa <fujisawa.jun@...150...> > > To: jon@...87... > > Subject: SVG Open 2004 - Paper Acceptance > > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:00:57 +0900 > > > > Hello Jonathan, > > > > SVG Open 2004 Reviewing Committee is happy to inform you that your > > abstract has been accepted for the presentation. > > > > "Introduction to the Open Clip Art Library" > > > > Please login with your account to see the feedback from the reviewers. > > Our apologies for the delay of notification. > > > > <http://www.svgopen.org/2004/login.do> > > > > For the preparation and submission of final paper, please follow the > > instruction on the Presenter Instructions page. > > > > <http://www.svgopen.org/2004/presenter_en.html> > > > > Thanks and looking forward to meet you at the conference. >

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Docking
by Adam Pearson 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

Hi all Using Gimp 2 on Windows XP, I "undocked" the tool options palette by mistake - how can I re-dock this? Note that on my (XP) display, there is no double line at the supposed docking position at the foot of the box (if you follow me!). I would send a screen shot but I think attachments are stripped by the list server? Adam

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svg_annotate (and announcing SVG::Metadata 0.05)
by Bryce Harrington 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

Since adding metadata to your SVG files is cumbersome, especially when you have a lot of files, I've written a script 'svg_annotate' to perform this work. This script is now included within SVG::Metadata, and takes advantage of its data structure. You can download it from CPAN, here: http://search.cpan.org/~bryce/SVG-Metadata-0.05/ The README has instructions for installing it. Briefly: $ perl Makefile.PL $ make $ su # make install You will probably also need to install XML::Twig. You can also get this from CPAN and install it the same way as above: http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/MI/MIROD/XML-Twig-3.15.tar.gz Then, to use svg_annotate to add metadata to all files under directory 'my_art': $ svg_annotate -a "My Name" my_art/ This will add metadata to any files that don't already have it, including setting the license to Public Domain and the title to "My Name - <filename>". (You can override this if you want; see the manual page for svg_annotate on CPAN). Let me know if you run into issues. Bryce

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