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I may have found a bug...
by Phil Hendry 31 Dec '06

31 Dec '06

...But I'm not sure - it may just be me not understanding how the package works. I can create new layers (apparently - at least the dialog appears and I can type a new layer name in it), move stuff to other layers and that sort of thing, but I can't open up the layers dialog - CTRL- SHIFT-L does nothing at all as far as I can see. Also, is there any way to lock the contents of a layer? If I go to Global Inkscape Preferences, I can check the 'Select only within current layer' box, but even if I then go to the layers menu and select 'Switch to layer above', the objects on the layer I've just moved from are still selectable. Phil

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Apropos letter spacing
by Michèle Garoche 30 Dec '06

30 Dec '06

Could the alt modifier key not be hardcoded for that function, i.e. customizable as already done for some other functions? Reason: the alt key is used for accented characters on a Mac, hence not usable as a modifier for people with native languages using those accented characters. This leads to impossibility to use the letter spacing function.

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letter spacing
by Hago Ziegler 28 Dec '06

28 Dec '06

Hi, I need letter-spacing a lot. How do you do that in inkscape? For the moment I always have to use other programs for that. Regards, Hago

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please test the proposed perspective extension
by bulia byak 27 Dec '06

27 Dec '06

We have a new Perspective extension in our patch tracker: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1600298&group_id=9… It's very useful potentially, but for some reason, I can't make it work properly, although it reportedly works for the author and another user. I would appreciate if more people could try it out and report their results. Note that to use it, you will need to install Numeric Python: http://numpy.scipy.org (in addition to regular Python). To install the extension, place the inx and py file from perspective_v0.3.tgz into your extensions directory. Please share your experience - thanks! -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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THANK YOU to Inkscape developers!
by John Beale 25 Dec '06

25 Dec '06

Dear Inkscape Developers, THANK YOU so much for creating this amazing program! For a long time I have wanted to have the capabilities of something like Adobe Illustrator but I could never justify the cost for an occasional use. I just discovered Inkscape and within a few hours I was able to do useful work with it (well- creating holiday greeting cards, if that's useful!) I'm running on Windows XP, generating a PS output file and converting that to PDF with Ghostscript for laser and inkjet print. It looks great. All the built-in features I've tried work smoothly and I was particularly impressed by the ease of use, and output quality of the built-in bitmap-to-vector converter. Great stuff- thank you all! season's greetings, John

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yet another stupid animation question
by ilya y. rostovtsev 21 Dec '06

21 Dec '06

On 12/18/06, inkscape-user-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > Inkscape is an SVG-based 2D illustration (and maybe, in the future, animation) package. I've been using Inkscape for animation for quite some time already. I'm psyched about that whole "path morphing" thing, because that really (and I mean REALLY) expands my abilities in the department. However, I'd love to see some "bones" that could alter the paths composing a character... Does anyone know of any FREE software package that would do the trick of providing easy path-modification animation? I haven't had much luck finding much else, though Inkscape is better suited for such than what most give it credit for, especially since varying opacity on full objects is so easily tweakable (multiple frames can be referenced without any pain whatsoever). [If anyone has any "non-Free" packages to recommend, I'd like to know about them, though I can't really promise I'll be able to follow up on each recommendation due to conflict of ideology. :) ] -ilya.

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Qs re Save As - eps, pdf, odg
by Phil Rhoades 20 Dec '06

20 Dec '06

People, Saving as: - eps - produces usable but not great output - odg - does not seem to work? - pdf - produces very rough output? I would like to output directly to PDF or to consolidate pages in Open Office and then export to PDF - is there improvements to these output formats? Thanks for nice software! Regards, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades Pricom Pty Limited (ACN 003 252 275 ABN 91 003 252 275) GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Mobile: +61:(0)411-185-652 Fax: +61:(0)2-8221-9599 E-mail: phil@...2067...

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Inkscape.org down?
by Alberto Simões 19 Dec '06

19 Dec '06

Hi For some days I can't access inkscape.org. Any problem with my network or is the server down? Cheers -- Alberto Simões

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NURBS
by Esben Stien 19 Dec '06

19 Dec '06

SVGs' are not really scalable. Are there any plans to implement NURBS curves and surfaces?. -- Esben Stien is b0ef@...2066... s a http://www. s t n m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@ n n

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Blur Breaks on Export
by Axiom X11 18 Dec '06

18 Dec '06

Ok, so I have this strange tendency to answer my own questions shortly after I post them, but I really needed that image, so I figured out how to alleviate the symptom. I think my last post still showed some kind of rendering bug. The reason why I have the crazy shapes at the edge of the drawing is because when you export the drawing, it cuts things off where it sees that the edge should be, ignoring the blur. This should be fixed. An auto shadow/glow tool would be fun too. Perhaps I should go file some bugs. -Brian

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Blur Breaks on Export
by Axiom X11 18 Dec '06

18 Dec '06

I'm not sure how I would report this as a bug, but I have got this SVG in which the blur never exports correctly to bitmap. It always shows an artifact in the blur, and I can't tell exactly what is causing it, becasue it only shows up after the export. I am using Inkscape 0.45+devel, built Dec 14 2006 on WinXP. -Brian

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Postscript fonts not being recognized
by unknown＠example.com 18 Dec '06

18 Dec '06

I'm running Inkscape v0.44.1 on Windows 2000. Recently I installed several adobe postscript fonts and Inkscape is not recognizing them. I have Scribus installed on this machine as well and it recognizes all the new postscript fonts. If I run notepad.exe I can see the postscript fonts as well so I'm pretty sure they're installed correctly but I just can't seem to get Inkscape to see them. Any suggestions? Also by not recognize I mean when I open Inkscape's font selector I don't see the new postscript fonts. Thanks, Kevin

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Bug Hunt for 0.45
by Bryce Harrington 16 Dec '06

16 Dec '06

Hi all, We're ready to move into the bug fixing portion of the release. Traditionally, we specify a point target for us to reach, and award us points based on the severity of the bug: 3, 6, or 9 points for low, medium, and high. But this time, to encourage work on old bugs, lets give double points to fixes for any bugs that have been open for a year or more. Bug Hunt Goal: 300 points Current: 0 points Low: 3 - 6 pts Med: 6 - 12 pts High: 9 - 18 pts We especially need testers (and bug fixers) for Windows and OSX. A lot of bugs have accumulated that only show on those platforms, so they are difficult to test. If you are a Windows or OSX user, you too can be a big help, simply by browsing the bug tracker and see if you can reproduce the bug, and then add a comment on the bug one way or the other. No technical experience required. :-) Thanks, Bryce

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Introduction - and help!
by Phil Hendry 15 Dec '06

15 Dec '06

Hello folks, My name's Phil. I'm a 'house-husband' these days, though until June I was a low-temperature physicist, working in the research labs at Lancaster University. My wife and I had this long-term agreement that when she got promoted to Professor, I would 'retire', run the household, look after the kids, etc. And lo and behold, she did, so I did! Best move I ever made! When I'm not cooking, cleaning, washing or acting as the kids' taxi service, I'm involved in a variety of projects for a variety of people requiring me to produce drawing and lay out pages. Page layout is almost all done in Indesign CS2, but, since switching from PC to Mac I've (thus far) dismally failed to find a drawing package that doesn't try to fight back. I'm a fairly recent (autumn 05) switcher from PC to Mac (dual 2GHz PowerMac). There's only one thing about my PC which I miss, and that's Xara (I used Xara right from it being called 'Xara Studio' up to the name change to 'Xara Xtreme'). Xara Ltd are (or were?) supposed to be sponsoring an open source version of Xtreme to run on the Mac, but there doesn't seem to be any progress - I suspect that the advent of Macs which can run Windows has removed some/most of the impetus behind this. The only thing I don't like about my Mac is the lack of a decent, usable, drawing package. I don't want to change to an Intel Mac (yet), and even if/when I do, I really don't want to run Windows on it - I started using a Mac to get away from Windows (sorry, to any/all the Windows fans here - I just got fed up with it!)! So I want a drawing package that runs under OS X. Illustrator is so clunky it's untrue - I *can* use it, but fighting it to get it to do what I want robs me of all my creativity; Canvas X is a bug-fest; Eazydraw doesn't have enough features and is too 'eazy'; etc; etc. I've just downloaded the X11 version of Inkscape. So far so good but... The text on things like rulers is so tiny that I can't read it. Is there any way to make it bigger? I've trawled through the document setup and preferences and can't find a way to do it. At the moment it makes using it *almost* impossible. My screen isn't exactly huge, but neither is it tiny - it's an Apple 20" Cinema Display. The 'tooltips' appear under the Dock (which I usually keep on the LHS of the screen), unless I undock the toolbar, in which case the tooltips appear *under* the toolbar: AARRGGHH!!! Either way, they're unreadable. Probably won't matter once I get the hang of the package, but for a newbie, it's a PITA! The size of objects seem to change as one changes the thickness of their outline - seems odd to me - it makes aligning things a bit 'hit and miss' if you then go back and edit them later. Admittedly, Xara had a similar (but not identical) issue - it's the one and only area where I think Illustrator is superior. Thanks, Phil I used to earn a living, now I have a life!

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Inkscape and GPU
by Karol Krenski 14 Dec '06

14 Dec '06

Hi list, Does inkscape depend of how fast my GPU is? From what I understand GPU allows for hardware matrix/vector calculations and vector graphics is all about those. But does inkscape use the GPU or does it use CPU rather? I heard Macromedia Flash depends on GPU. Karol

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Questionnaire on Inkscape and Gimp
by ilya y. rostovtsev 13 Dec '06

13 Dec '06

> Hmmm... if his perspective really is anti-oss, well it sucks for him > that I didn't read that paragraph. I could care less when it comes to > anonymous surveys and what they use them for... so I skipped all the > "wordy" junk at the beginning and just filled it out truthfully. > > Honestly, if he is anti-OSS, I find this to be a bizarre place to ask. > It's almost like going to a church and asking people if they believe in > God or not. They're probably there for a reason. :) > > -Josh It would be more accurate to say that he went into a church, and asked people to fill out a survey that hopes to prove that there is no God. The survey is terribly written: it doesn't account for individual graphic artist work against a set team of graphical developers. I do not know of an Open-Source equivalent to Adobe bridge (which I haven't used in a multi-user environment), so I suppose a point can be made against OSS provisions for large-scale work (e.g. vector design -> color/texture providers -> layout implementation -> content management of some sort) at present. However, for single-man jobs, it has been me experience with OSS user base that they are, quite simply, more aware of extended abilities of the software toolset in their disposal than most users of "well locked up" proprietary stuff. Naturally, the preceeding argument is made about college kids doing web-design. When it comes to digital artists of highest caliber, there is no question that their experitise would be honorable regardless of which package they choose for themselves. I'm definitely interested in seeing the results of the survey, mostly due to the fact that no single good conclusion can come out of it. The "practical exercise" section of the questionaire is a complete joke that ought to take less than 30 seconds to finish INCLUDING the loading times of GIMP splash screen and initial "deep thought" phase of Inkscape. Last question: am I the only one of the opinion that most if not all OSS, graphic or not, has better documentation given out for free than most of the fancy (read: expensive) packages provide for extra dough? -ilya.

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Questionnaire on Inkscape and Gimp
by Flachland Tapir 13 Dec '06

13 Dec '06

I am trying to answer some severe critics from bryce and mental on my questionnaire: 1. For getting a larger sample size, be sure that I am posting my questionnaire not only on an Inkscape mailing list but also eg in an Adobe forum. 2. I didn't take Scribus, because its targeting mostly people active in print 3. its "just" a survey for my master thesis and it would go beyond the scope to consider all proprietary and OS packages available. 4. science is always distorted and subjective! 5. the questionnaire is only a part for verifying my thesis, I will also use other research methods for getting answers. 6. I am further using ISO 9126, the standard for software testing 7. I am not changing my hypothesis, I am changing the text on the website to sound more neutral! fltp -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Questionnaire on Inkscape and Gimp
by Flachland Tapir 13 Dec '06

13 Dec '06

Hi volks, Where else should I go if not here? To find out about the professionalism of Inkscape and Gimp I have started a research project called "OpenSource graphics software in the creative media sector". It would make me happy if you spend a few moments to fill in the questionnaire. You find all you need to know at: members.kabsi.at/amiga tanks a lot fltp -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Questionnaire on Inkscape and Gimp
by Flachland Tapir 13 Dec '06

13 Dec '06

A research under a scientific aspect has to set up a hypothesis and verify it. I don't know if the answer to my hypothesis will be yes or no, so one shouldn't derive that I am for or against OS. To let you know, I am a great supporter of OS and so it came to my mind as a professional user of graphics software why programs like Inkscape and Gimp are not widely in use compared to e.g. Photoshop or Illustrator! So how would it sound to you if the hypothesis claims: "Inkscape is mature for a professional workflow, so it isn't widespread and this is because it's free"! Anyway, I am glad to get feedback!!! It is hard to stay neutral on that matter, and I'll try to rephrase my question in the survey. My opinion is that this is because the software isn't mature, what doesn't mean that I am against Open Source. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary <pajer@...1943...> > To: "Inkscape User Community" <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Questionnaire on Inkscape and Gimp > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:27:43 -0500 > > > Bryce Harrington wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:59:16PM +0100, Flachland Tapir wrote: > > > >> Hi volks, Where else should I go if not here? To find out about > >> the professionalism of Inkscape and Gimp I have started a > >> research project called "OpenSource graphics software in the > >> creative media sector". It would make me happy if you spend a > >> few moments to fill in the questionnaire. You find all you need > >> to know at: > > > > On your webpage you state the purpose of this survey is to prove: "I > > claim that the application in a professional workflow isn't mature > > compared to proprietary software used in the CMS. The effort for > > maintaining OSGS exceeds the costs & benefits you could save when using > > free software." > > > > Since your purpose is anti-Open Source, there seems little reason to > > help you. > > > That's not how I read it. He might be supportive of OS software, and is > trying to find out why its not more pervasive. In any event, wouldn't > you(we) want to know where and why our OS initiatives fall short? I > admit I'd feel more comfortable if I had some assurance that he's making > at least an attempt at being neutral. > > Bryce > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-user mailing list > > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Inkscape-user] [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape site slow?
by Bryce Harrington 12 Dec '06

12 Dec '06

On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 12:26:44PM -0800, John Bintz wrote: > Bryce Harrington said: > > Thanks. Next let's try upgrading apache. I notice some issues with > > non-exiting child processes, which seems weird and is probably what's > > resulting in the slowness. Should take a couple hours; I'll let you > > know when the upgrade is complete. > > I don't know much about the config for the Inkscape server, but are you > using Alternative PHP Cache along with PHP 5.1.4? I've managed to kill > APC on really busy servers in such a way that the child processes never > exit, eventually using up all of the MaxServers. I don't think we're using that cache (how would you tell?), but we do have php 5.1.4 installed. I'll try upgrading it to 5.1.8. Thanks, Bryce

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Inkscape web site still slow
by Lars Behrens 12 Dec '06

12 Dec '06

Hi Bryce, the Inkscape site is still or again slow/unreachable. Just wanted to let you know, as you requested. Cheerz Lars

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Inkscape site slow?
by Jasper van de Gronde 12 Dec '06

12 Dec '06

Is it just me or do other people also experience rediculous load times for the Inkscape site? (homepage and Wiki main page, I didn't dare go any further) With rediculous I mean something like a minute, or even several minutes.

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Boolean intersection of bitmap and vector shape?
by Richard Querin 12 Dec '06

12 Dec '06

Is there some way to import a bitmap into Inkscape and then trim the bitmap to match some arbitrarily drawn shape? I've tried doing a boolean 'intersection' between an imported bitmap and a closed curve object I've created to no avail. Do I have to trace the bitmap first? Any hints or tips how best to do it would be greatly appreciated. BTW, I'm experimenting with screencasting and have created a quick Inkscape screencast to try it out: ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfMDIK4uvV8)

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Mask/Clip is kinda hard to use
by Donn 12 Dec '06

12 Dec '06

On Tuesday 05 December 2006 11:17, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Paste Inside sounds like a very nice concept. Provided you can paste inside > and In Place. It was nice. Very nice. It had the superb quality of being entirely intuitive. You draw some larger shape. You select a bunch of any other stuff. You select the big shape and Paste Inside. Bang! Your stuff now lives inside the big shape - as if in a new world - like a new canvas almost! You could select the stuff inside, move-it, node-edit it, fill it, etc. Anytime you wanted stuff out, you sub-select it and Cut it. Bang! > An Outliner that lists objects and shows clipping/masking/cloning > relations would be helpful :) It would only be useful if the user-interface of mask/clip remains so hard for humans to actually use. Thanks for you other info! /d

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Re: [Inkscape-user] pattern mismatch - the reason for it
by Henning Lorenz 09 Dec '06

09 Dec '06

I discovered now the reason for the mismatch: The problem is that inkscape takes the path AND its stroke width into account when processing a tile clone, i.e. the offset of the new rows and columns is not based on the centre of the line but on the outline of it which depends on the stroke width (see attached screen shot). However, to produce a pattern which is good for a patternfill it is necessary that this process is based only on the centre of the line, i.e. the offset of the new rows and columns is independent from stroke-width. (Screenshot: thin line results in small offset, thick line results in larger offset - take the grid as a reference; to make the pattern suitable for a fill pattern each line has to be place on the grid without offset) A solution is to diminish stroke width to 0, do the tile-clone, and then adjust the stroke width to the wished value. However, the problem reoccurs when this pattern is used as a fill pattern! Even there the stroke width is taken into account! This could be easily fixed with a clipping mask. But the latter does not work with the command "objects to pattern", it results in an empty pattern. Henning On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:37:39 -0500, bulia byak wrote: > On 11/29/06, Henning Lorenz <henning.lorenz-wmbx2sCzPmCzQB+pC5nmwQ@...2053...> wrote: >> Then I changed the colour in the source, but there is a principal >> question: Is something wrong and if so, what? And why doesn't this affect >> the "pattern-pinstripes-diagonal" pattern? >> Maybe I just missed an important point in constructing patterns in >> inkscape? > > It's hard to visualize what you're talking about without a sample or > screenshot. However one thing you should be aware of is this: "Object > to pattern" creates a rectangular pattern with its sides parallel to > x/y axes. Only after that can you rotate or skew it. So if your > existing pattern is rotated or skewed, then converting it to objects > and then back to pattern will not give the same result. If you want to > edit it, first rotate the pattern so it's rectangular, convert to > objects, edit, convert to pattern, and rotate back to the original > angle.

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