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Donation System Proposal
by Bryce Harrington 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

Hi all, The other day we received another donation to Inkscape ($10, less SourceForge and PayPal fees). :-) For about a year we've talked on and off about donations for Inkscape. The major question is not getting the money, but deciding how to apply the money appropriately. Of course, we've had no shortage of ideas... From bug bounties/contracts, to hardware, to developer support, to sponsoring attendance at conferences. I like all the ideas, although some would be more feasible than others. However, the one idea I think I like the best, to start with, is to fund contract work to enhance file import/export converters. I.e., accumulate enough funding to pay a developer to augment an existing xyz2svg tool for use with Inkscape. Here is my reasoning for this proposal: 1. These extensions are distinct from the main Inkscape codebase, thus eliminating a range of potential conflicts of interests, learning curve issues, and so forth. 2. Users *definitely* want to see the file converters improved. This is often a crucially important need for them, and they will see the benefits of the improvements immediately. 3. File converters haven't tended to attract attention from many developers. Maybe they're not considered 'sexy' enough? Using money as a motivator is worth a shot. 4. These converters will have definite value beyond Inkscape. A lot of programs out there are starting to gain SVG support. If we are able to gain good xyz2svg converters, this could benefit them as well, plus would help build the reputation of SVG as a good format for interoperability, which helps all of us out a lot. 5. I emphasize focus on enhancing _existing_ tools over creating new ones for several reasons. First, the work of creating a basic tool that does the first 80% of the conversion is usually not too hard and actually kind of fun; the hard part is getting that last 20%, and that's where I think funding development will be most effective. Also, it can be harder to track progress for development of a tool being written from scratch. 6. We can allow users to contribute to the specific converter they wish to support; i.e., we establish one pool for the AI extension, another for DXF, another for VSD, etc. and allow people to choose which one their donations will go to. Here are the challenges I see for this proposal, and how we'd be able to deal with them: a. Funds collection/distribution: If we get a large number of donations, there may be an administrative overhead to keep track of them. I'll set up an account that allows us to accumulate the funds via SourceForge, and for now I'll just handle the accounting manually. If it becomes burdensome, myself or someone can script it up better. b. Donation fees: Currently, SF and Paypal impose fees for donations. A $10 donation works out to be $8.48. It'd be nice to preserve a larger proportion, but beggers can't be choosers. If someone less lazy than me wants to set up something better, let me know. c. Deciding the contract terms. This is the point I'm not sure about, but clearly we need to have some way of establishing the minimum goals for the funding. I'm open to suggestions, but sure we can figure something out; contracting developers is nothing particularly new. d. Deciding who is allowed to bid on the work. I'm concerned about random people bidding on the work, and also think that the spirit of the donations is to also help further Inkscape development in general. Thus I would be tempted to limit participation to people who have a track record of doing development work for Inkscape. These people will be "known quantities", and will have a stake in doing a good job. e. Deciding when to close donations and open bidding. In other words, how do we decide how much money to raise? It's often difficult to determine how much time it'd take to implement a feature. My thought is to leave this open ended - we simply post what the expectations are and how much $$ has been collected, and when a developer feels enough has been raised, he submits a bid to do the work. This way, "the market" is left to decide what the rate should be. f. Deciding what file converter features to allow donating to. My feeling is that we should just leave this open to the donors. Any donation target that someone puts money against is worth adding to the list. g. Legal/contractual paperwork and such. I'm blissfully clueless here. Maybe this part is the achilles heel of the whole idea, or maybe it's no big deal, I have no idea. But people have paid other people to do work before, and I'm sure it can be sorted out somehow. Anyway, let me know what y'all think of this proposal. Worth doing? 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export - image slicing
by Michal Žeravík 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

dear developers, latest cvs looks very very good. I'm missing only a few features: 1. Edit with Gimp ... (for images) 2. export in slices (special layer to define slices ? ..) 3. HSL filter to change colour in objects/groups. 4. some nice plugins from skencil, as blend and so on... Michal

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clipart files ???
by Gracia M. Littauer 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Dumb question 101...where are all the clip art files & how do i use them??? Linux SuSE 9.2; inkscape .40 I DLed what I thought was it, but that turned out to be a php file of a few Ks; then i found THE file, (all 44 megs?). But I haven't a clue where it went & how I access it. I hate it when DLs put stuff where they want, rather than where I want!!! & then don't give me a clue how to use them. Yes, the Linux file system is still a bit of a mystery to me. -- Gracia...Cooleemee, NC Registered Linux user #263390 - SuSE 9.2 Pro Choices, life is about choices -- well, part of it is. Shit happens is the other part. Mickey Mouse aka Jari Lynn

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some pdf creation info
by Craig Gotthardt 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

I have found that on xp (0.41.win.exe) CutePDF works to create a basic pdf directly from inkcsape. It installs as a printer. NOTE: ("dependency") needs Ghostscript to convert. I dont know about linux? But Im sure theres something out there to use. http://www.cutepdf.com/products/CutePDF/writer.asp Craig

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Re: [Inkscape-user] 0.41 autopackage - missing dependencies
by Christopher B. Wright 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Just wanted to add that I get the same error messages. Running Mepis Linux (also Debian based). It doesn't affect anything I actually do in Inkscape... not so far, anyway. Christopher B. Wright (wrightc@...537...) --- Claus Cyrny <claus.cyrny@...22...> wrote: > Hi, > > after installing the 0.41 autopackage, I got the > following > error messages in the log: > > --- begin --- > > description: In order to import Dia files, Dia > itself must be installed. > You can get Dia at http://somesite.com > > Extension "Grid" failed to load because a dependency > was not met. > Dependency:: > type: plugin > location: path > string: grid > > Extension "Postscript Input" failed to load because > a dependency was not > met. > Dependency:: > type: executable > location: path > string: pstoedit > > Extension "AI Output" failed to load because a > dependency was not met. > Dependency:: > type: executable > location: path > string: pstoedit > > Extension "EPS Input" failed to load because a > dependency was not met. > Dependency:: > type: extension > location: path > string: org.inkscape.input.ps > > Extension "Sketch Input" failed to load because a > dependency was not met. > Dependency:: > type: executable > location: path > string: skconvert > > Extension "Windows Metafile Input" failed to load > because a dependency > was not met. > Dependency:: > type: executable > location: path > string: wmf2svg > > Extension "GIMP Gradients" failed to load because a > dependency was not met. > Dependency:: > type: plugin > location: path > string: gimpgrad > > --- end --- > > The first one ("Dia") is clear because I haven't > installed Dia, but what > about the other ones? I'm particularly concerned > about the option to > save as Adobe .AI. What do I need to do? I am > working under the > Debian-based Ubuntu Linux. > > But besides: There are visible improvements from > 0.39, which I was using > until now! > > TIA, > > Claus > -- > Profile: http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/profil/en/ (in > English) > Djangology: http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/djangology/ > (deutsch) > Glossar "Computergrafik": > http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/glossar/ (deutsch) > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > > >

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icon theming
by Jakub Steiner 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Hi folks, I tried to start tweaking inkscape icons so it's less of a blur but stumbled on some obstacles. As per some discussion on the #inkscape channel I was convinced I could use ~/.inkscape/icons/ to store PNG icons with filenames corresponding to the icons.svg object ids or the old XPM icon set. However this doesn't appear to have any effect. Failing that, I tried doing them in vector. While ~/.inkscape/icons/icons.svg does seem to override the global icons, I'm puzzled about the size. The icons in the toolbar, nor the icons in the menus seem to match the 1:1 zoom of icons.svg thus any effort trying to position elements to the raster grid are useless. My 16x16px icon got scaled down to about 10px in the toolbar. What's the magic here? I'm still convinced that for small resolutions such as the toolbar and definitely menu icons, bitmap icons will take less effort to draw. Even if you do them in vector, you still need to make sure the objects align well to the grid to render sharp. That means either having menu and toolbar render at the same size or doing every icon twice anyway. [1] I see the usefulness of SVG icons, phasing them in gnome icon theme, but for tiny resolutions they don't work without pixel-perfect positioning. [1] - More on this here: http://primates.ximian.com/~jimmac/blog/Artwork/SVG-NG/ cheers -- Jakub Steiner <jimmac@...446...> Novell, Inc.

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0.41 autopackage - missing dependencies
by Brandon Blackmoor 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

> From: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...69...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] 0.41 autopackage - missing dependencies > > I think it would be invaluable for 0.42 that this > whole approach should be rethought and reimplemented > in a clearer way. All that's really needed, I think, is to have some instructions on how to correct the errors. -- Brandon Blackmoor bblackmoor@...477... 2005-04-06

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Re: [Inkscape-user] 0.41 autopackage - missing dependencies
by Christopher B. Wright 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

How does one download the missing dependencies? The download section says that "everything is available in Debian's unstable apt repositories," but there's no mention of what they *are*... Christopher B. Wright (wrightc@...537...)

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Scripting
by unknown＠example.com 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

I have started to post my experience with learning about writing inkscape extensions in python, in case there are others who are as clueless as I am and could benefit even from bad examples. http://www.ekips.org/comp/inkscape/extending.php I will continue adding extension examples as I write them. Those of you who are in the know, please take it easy on me. I'm a complete neophite. Aaron Spike

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0.41 autopackage - missing dependencies
by Claus Cyrny 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

Hi, after installing the 0.41 autopackage, I got the following error messages in the log: --- begin --- description: In order to import Dia files, Dia itself must be installed. You can get Dia at http://somesite.com Extension "Grid" failed to load because a dependency was not met. Dependency:: type: plugin location: path string: grid Extension "Postscript Input" failed to load because a dependency was not met. Dependency:: type: executable location: path string: pstoedit Extension "AI Output" failed to load because a dependency was not met. Dependency:: type: executable location: path string: pstoedit Extension "EPS Input" failed to load because a dependency was not met. Dependency:: type: extension location: path string: org.inkscape.input.ps Extension "Sketch Input" failed to load because a dependency was not met. Dependency:: type: executable location: path string: skconvert Extension "Windows Metafile Input" failed to load because a dependency was not met. Dependency:: type: executable location: path string: wmf2svg Extension "GIMP Gradients" failed to load because a dependency was not met. Dependency:: type: plugin location: path string: gimpgrad --- end --- The first one ("Dia") is clear because I haven't installed Dia, but what about the other ones? I'm particularly concerned about the option to save as Adobe .AI. What do I need to do? I am working under the Debian-based Ubuntu Linux. But besides: There are visible improvements from 0.39, which I was using until now! TIA, Claus -- Profile: http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/profil/en/ (in English) Djangology: http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/djangology/ (deutsch) Glossar "Computergrafik": http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/glossar/ (deutsch)

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