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Re: [Inkscape-user] Measuring distances and angles
by bulia byak 19 May '06

19 May '06

On 5/18/06, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...1631...> wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 10:13:13AM -0400, bulia byak wrote: > > > You can use the Pen tool for most of this (though not all): > > > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#How_to_measure_distances_and_an… > > That's realy only good for when you actualy create the segments. > After the fact it's not precise enough. But any measure tool would work "after the fact", by clicking on some points in the drawing and measuring them. Is that not so? > A real world example i've had is a letter V and tweaking the hight of > the right end of it. The 2 nodes have to be moved colinear to the sides > of the right arm of the V to keep all angles the same. Ah, that I added it long ago. Try dragging with Ctrl+Alt in Node tool. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org >From MAILER-DAEMON Thu May 18 09:27:58 2006 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 18:27:53 +0200 From: Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...1631...> To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Measuring distances and angles Message-ID: <20060518162753.GD7382@...1906...> References: <20060518112905.GB7382@...1906...> <3c78ff030605180713t7be2d88cte2ea3f862b0e4aba@...156...> <20060518143913.GC7382@...1906...> <3c78ff030605180752t255cbaeajd1d97ab3781cb86d@...156...> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3c78ff030605180752t255cbaeajd1d97ab3781cb86d@...156...> Priority: normal X-Mailer: Mutt User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Warning: 80.138.109.106 is listed at list.dsbl.org X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. Report problems to http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001 1.8 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see <http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?194.97.55.190>] Sender: inkscape-user-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: inkscape-user-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-Reply-To: t_w_@...1631... List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user>, <mailto:inkscape-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Id: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Post: <mailto:inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:inkscape-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user>, <mailto:inkscape-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=inkscape-user> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 11:52:39AM -0300, bulia byak wrote: > > But any measure tool would work "after the fact", by clicking on some > points in the drawing and measuring them. Is that not so? A measure tool in the sense of what the GIMP has, yes. But for precision and numerical entry (very important), you have to select the actual nodes. That is, this should work from the node tool, not be another tool. Select 2 nodes of 1 segment, read the distance (= lenght in case of a straight line), see it's not what you want, enter desired value ... that's the kind of workflow I'm about. Actualy, wether the nodes are the ends of one segment or not isn't important, linear distance could always be measured and changed (moving the nodes in a colinear fashion). There should just be a way to make one node stay in place or to move both by the same amount (could be just likw with Align and Distribute). > Ah, that I added it long ago. Try dragging with Ctrl+Alt in Node tool. Cool, thanks. One has to be carful, otherwise it jumps around, though. --- Thorsten Wilms

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initng-konf is searching for a logo
by Karlos 19 May '06

19 May '06

initng-konf is serching for a logo (that will be used as icon too). If you think you can do it, please send a mail to arroba2puntos@...155... Webpage: http://initng-konf.sourceforge.net/ Thank you. -- /Karlos

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Key bindings (Was: NEW: node sculpting)
by Michael Moore 19 May '06

19 May '06

> > Is anyone using this on Linux? All the windows managers I tried to use > > (Xgl, Metacity, Fluxbox) have <ALT>+mouse bound to move the window. I > > was able to disable moving the windows this way for Metacity and play > > with the feature, but disabling window moving isn't an ideal solution > > for me. > > You should be able to reassign the key for moving the window to the > Super key (the "windows" key). I also run Dapper and it's how I have it > set up. I'm afraid I don't have a Windows key on my keyboard. (IBM Model M) Am I missing a (m)any other features by not having alt+drag. All of a sudden I'm left wondering. Is there an easy way to change the key bindings in Inkscape? -- Michael Moore ------------------------------- www.stuporglue.org -- Donate your used computer to a student that needs it. www.ubuntu-utah.org -- In Utah? Interested in Ubuntu? Come join us.

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Measuring distances and angles
by bulia byak 18 May '06

18 May '06

On 5/18/06, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...1631...> wrote: > A measure tool in the sense of what the GIMP has, yes. But for > precision and numerical entry (very important), you have to select > the actual nodes. That is, this should work from the node tool, not be > another tool. Select 2 nodes of 1 segment, read the distance (= lenght > in case of a straight line), see it's not what you want, enter desired > value ... that's the kind of workflow I'm about. So, what you need is not really a separate tool, but a way to see and enter numeric coords for nodes, first. For that we have an RFE. Then we can build on that to measure distances and angles. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Measuring distances and angles
by bulia byak 18 May '06

18 May '06

On 5/18/06, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...1631...> wrote: > Now CAD style dimensioning would be a bit much to ask ;) > But the following should be relatively straightforward and good > enough: > - Display of the distance between 2 selected nodes > - Display of the angle of a line segment relative to a vertical > line (just like happens now in the statusbar if you hold ctrl > while using the beziere tool) > - Display of the angle between 2 adjacent line segments defined > by 3 selected nodes. > - The same for curves, based on a "virtual" straight line > between the nodes. > - Numerical entry for all these cases You can use the Pen tool for most of this (though not all): http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#How_to_measure_distances_and_an… > Being able to move a node while keeping the angle of one of its > segments fixed (you could say: keeping the node congruent to the > original segment, I guess) would also be nice. The only sensible > way ui-wise I can think of, would be having a "Keep angle" toggle > per segment, though. But keeping angles at a node fixed will in most cases turn straight line segments into curves as you drag it. Is this what you want? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org >From MAILER-DAEMON Thu May 18 07:39:22 2006 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 16:39:13 +0200 From: Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...1631...> To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Measuring distances and angles Message-ID: <20060518143913.GC7382@...1906...> References: <20060518112905.GB7382@...1906...> <3c78ff030605180713t7be2d88cte2ea3f862b0e4aba@...156...> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3c78ff030605180713t7be2d88cte2ea3f862b0e4aba@...156...> Priority: normal X-Mailer: Mutt User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Warning: 80.138.109.106 is listed at list.dsbl.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. Report problems to http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001 Sender: inkscape-user-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: inkscape-user-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-Reply-To: t_w_@...1631... List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user>, <mailto:inkscape-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Id: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Post: <mailto:inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:inkscape-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user>, <mailto:inkscape-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=inkscape-user> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 10:13:13AM -0400, bulia byak wrote: > You can use the Pen tool for most of this (though not all): > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#How_to_measure_distances_and_an… That's realy only good for when you actualy create the segments. After the fact it's not precise enough. > >Being able to move a node while keeping the angle of one of its > >segments fixed (you could say: keeping the node congruent to the > >original segment, I guess) would also be nice. The only sensible > >way ui-wise I can think of, would be having a "Keep angle" toggle > >per segment, though. > > But keeping angles at a node fixed will in most cases turn straight > line segments into curves as you drag it. Is this what you want? Nope. Say you have a parallelogram and want to keep the angle of the left side, but don't care about the angle of the upper line. With this option (however triggered ui-wise), you could move the upper left node only colinear (congruent was the wrong term) to the left segment. A real world example i've had is a letter V and tweaking the hight of the right end of it. The 2 nodes have to be moved colinear to the sides of the right arm of the V to keep all angles the same. --- Thorsten Wilms

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] NEW: node sculpting
by bulia byak 18 May '06

18 May '06

I forgot to mention one important application of node sculpting: Twisting text. Just convert your text to path, select all or some of the nodes and Alt+drag one of them. I have updated the screenshot to demonstrate that: http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.44-nodesculpting.png -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Bug Organizer person needed
by Bryce Harrington 18 May '06

18 May '06

For the 0.44 release, we will be making an attempt to close critical bugs in the bug tracker. However, first those bugs need to be prioritized. We have a system for prioritizing bugs, and it's pretty straightforward to do, even by someone with minimal technical experience. Thus this makes an excellent task for someone who wants to contribute to Inkscape but haven't found other tasks they're comfortable doing. Basically, you go through the bug tracker and review bugs set to priority 5 (the default). If it involves a crash, data loss, or other serious issues, mark it critical (9). Otherwise, mark it 6 if it looks important, or 3 if it looks like a lower priority issue. If you're interested in helping in this area, contact me either on IRC or by email, and I can set up your access and help you get started! Thanks, Bryce

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layer icons
by Jakub Steiner 17 May '06

17 May '06

Howdy. I'm very pleased by the introduction of a layer window. Will help greatly to manage more complex artwork. I noticed however the button icons are quite poor in doing what they should - being easier to distinguish than text labels. They all include the rectangle signifying "layer". But the fact that this element appears on evey single one of them makes it nothing but visual noise. I suggest simplifying those icons to the core of what they are trying to say. Use distinguishable silhouettes, color. An image is worth more than my poor writing: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/visual-noise.png Having said all that, I don't think the metaphor for delete you see on the mockup is particularly strong. cheers -- Jakub Steiner <jimmac@...469...>

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Fwd: [Inkscape-user] layer icons
by Roberto Winter 16 May '06

16 May '06

On 5/16/06, Erik Halbert <kaver@...45...> wrote: > > Jakub Steiner wrote: > > > I suggest simplifying those icons to the core of what they are trying to > > say. Use distinguishable silhouettes, color. An image is worth more than > my poor writing: > > > > http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/visual-noise.png > > > > Having said all that, I don't think the metaphor for delete you see on > > the mockup is particularly strong. > > I agree with the above and that your suggestions are clearer and cleaner. me too! and i'm also in favour of a trash can. Erik > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >

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scripting with inkscape
by Cornel Ghiban 15 May '06

15 May '06

Hi, Is there a manual for scripting inkscape with python? Tried to find it but nothing so far. Also can this be done: Having a lot of (small) eps files, open each one in turn, copy/extract all objects to a master document at a certain position, close file etc, and finaly save master document? Thanks, -- Cornel

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