April 2008 - Inkscape Users - Inkscape Mailman

New Cairo PDF Export mangles font kerning (OS X)
by Yashka Oreza 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

I have an old map project that I've updated for the new year with Inkscape .46 - I then send it off to the printers as a PDF. However this time the old method for PDF export has been removed and replaced by cairo. It works, but the font kerning is all wrong - the letters seem to be spaced too far apart. This is much worse for small font sizes than for large font sizes - could it be an issue of precision? Here are some pictures of a magnified part of my document. PDF: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2406/pdfdv8.png SVG in Inkscape: http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3523/svgnk5.png I never had this problem with .45's PDF export - can I replicate this behavior in the new version? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-Cairo-PDF-Export-mangles-font-kerning-%28OS-X%29-… Sent from the Inkscape - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Bug triaging help needed
by Bryce Harrington 20 Apr '08

20 Apr '08

Heya all, Have you been enjoying Inkscape and wondering about an easy way to contribute back? Bug triaging may be for you! Bug triaging is basically our first line step in the process of handling bugs. It's like being the host in a restaraunt - you don't fix the bugs, you just make sure the reporter has been greeted and find where they should sit. You can see the problem we're trying to solve by just looking at this plot: http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/project-graphs/inkscape/plots/inkscape-mont… Or, this one is less intimidating since it shows the progress we'd made prior to the release: http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/project-graphs/inkscape/plots/inkscape-half… (There is a friendly navigation web thingee here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Plots/) The job is to keep our total # of New bugs at as close to 0 as possible. We're up towards 200 now, so there's a bit of work to get caught up on, but once that's caught up you can see that there's a rate of about 3 new bugs/day. Triaging is pretty easy; anyone can do it - you just need to sign up for a launchpad bug account. (For extra triaging powers you can also join the Inkscape bug team.) Then you read each bug report that comes in, and make sure it has all the necessary information for developers to troubleshoot it. So for example, this may include asking people to include screenshots, steps to reproduce the issue, backtraces, and/or example files; then you set it to Incomplete state. Then, you also review bugs that are in 'Incomplete with response' and check if they've included the needed info, and move them into Completed state. You can see the bugs still in Incomplete state via the Plots link above. And that's pretty much it. If you are looking for a way to contribute some help to Inkscape that doesn't require an extensive time commitment, this is one of the easiest ways to make a difference. Plus it's addictive! You can track your "karma score" at this link: https://launchpad.net/inkscape/+topcontributors Getting yourself up into the top 5 is a good challenge if you have the interest and time to put into it. Karma degrades over time, so even if you're starting from 0 you have a chance to catch up and pass the long timers! Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-user] pdf files slow to appe
by Stephane Eybert 20 Apr '08

20 Apr '08

I removed the ellipses in the background. I don't know where to file the bug report you talked about. Would you have a url..? I reposted the pdf files still at http://www.thalasoft.com/brochure_en.pdf http://www..thalasoft.com/brochure_fr.pdf http://www.thalasoft.com/brochure_se.pdf The problem now is with the fonts. First the texts don't look so straight, and second some spacing appears within words in the pdf files (see the french http://www.thalasoft.com/brochure_fr.pdf at "Le web est notre langue commune") where there is none in the svg files. Which fonts should I use..? I do not need anything fancy at all, just working fonts to get an okay looking pdf file. Cheers ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ---- Från: Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@...2497...> Till: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Skickat: söndag 20 april 2008 11:33:59 Ämne: Re: [Inkscape-user] pdf files slow to appe Stephane Eybert wrote: > Dear all, > > I installed inkscape 0.46 on Kubuntu 8.04 and can now save as pdf with > pdf files having a very reasonable file size of barely under 100kb. Good! > > But I still have an issue and wonder if there isn't something wrong with > my pdf files. > > I have put them at > > http://www.thalasoft.com/brochure_en.pdf > > http://www.thalasoft..com/brochure_se.pdf > <http://www.thalasoft.com/brochure_se.pdf> > > http://www.thalasoft.com/brochure_fr.pdf > > for you to see. > > They are very slow to load up in the kpdf reader, something like 10 > seconds to appear. The problem is the ellipses in the background are each drawn in the PDF with an soft mask due to the fill/stroke opacity set to less than 100%. This means each individual ellipse is drawn to an image buffer the size of the page, the mask function is drawn to another image buffer the size of the page. The ellipse image is then composited with the mask image back on to the page. With all the ellipses on the page this is not going to be fast. The workaround is to set the master opacity to 100% and instead use the alpha in the stroke paint to control the transparency. This is something that should be optimized in Inkscape. Currently Inkscape calls cairo_paint_with_alpha() when the opacity is less then 100%. This is required to handle the general case of drawing a combined fill and stroke to prevent a translucent stroke compositing with the fill. Calling cairo_paint_with_alpha() results in a soft mask being used in the PDF file. If only a fill or stroke is drawn, Inkscape should instead adjust the alpha value of the fill or stroke and avoid calling cairo_paint_with_alpha(). I suggest filing a bug requesting this optimization and attaching your SVG and PDF files. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2.. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/java… _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user __________________________________________________________ Låna pengar utan säkerhet. Jämför vilkor online hos Yahoo! http://shopping.yahoo.se/c-100390123-lan-utan-sakerhet.html?partnerId=96915…

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pdf files slow to appe
by Stephane Eybert 20 Apr '08

20 Apr '08

Dear all, I installed inkscape 0.46 on Kubuntu 8.04 and can now save as pdf with pdf files having a very reasonable file size of barely under 100kb. Good! But I still have an issue and wonder if there isn't something wrong with my pdf files. I have put them at http://www.thalasoft.com/brochure_en.pdf http://www.thalasoft.com/brochure_se.pdf http://www.thalasoft.com/brochure_fr.pdf for you to see. They are very slow to load up in the kpdf reader, something like 10 seconds to appear.. Are you having the same time delay when opening these pdf files..? Cheers __________________________________________________________ Låna pengar utan säkerhet. Jämför vilkor online hos Yahoo! http://shopping.yahoo.se/c-100390123-lan-utan-sakerhet.html?partnerId=96915…

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Re: [Inkscape-user] [Inkscape-devel] Bug triaging help needed
by Bryce Harrington 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

There is an option for this on the Advanced Search page (via the advanced link next to the search button.) There's several other useful search modifiers there. I like "sort by most recently changed" and "has patch attached". Bryce On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:57:54PM -0500, Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: > Quick question: > > how do you look at "Incomplete with Response" bugs? I'm sure it's easy, > but I'm just not figuring out how. > > JF > > Bryce Harrington wrote: > > Heya all, > > > > Have you been enjoying Inkscape and wondering about an easy way to > > contribute back? Bug triaging may be for you! > > > > Bug triaging is basically our first line step in the process of handling > > bugs. It's like being the host in a restaraunt - you don't fix the > > bugs, you just make sure the reporter has been greeted and find where > > they should sit. > > > > You can see the problem we're trying to solve by just looking at this > > plot: > > > > http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/project-graphs/inkscape/plots/inkscape-mont… > > > > Or, this one is less intimidating since it shows the progress we'd made > > prior to the release: > > > > http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/project-graphs/inkscape/plots/inkscape-half… > > > > (There is a friendly navigation web thingee here: > > http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Plots/) > > > > The job is to keep our total # of New bugs at as close to 0 as > > possible. We're up towards 200 now, so there's a bit of work to get > > caught up on, but once that's caught up you can see that there's a rate > > of about 3 new bugs/day. > > > > Triaging is pretty easy; anyone can do it - you just need to sign up for > > a launchpad bug account. (For extra triaging powers you can also join > > the Inkscape bug team.) Then you read each bug report that comes in, > > and make sure it has all the necessary information for developers to > > troubleshoot it. > > > > So for example, this may include asking people to include screenshots, > > steps to reproduce the issue, backtraces, and/or example files; then you > > set it to Incomplete state. > > > > Then, you also review bugs that are in 'Incomplete with response' and > > check if they've included the needed info, and move them into Completed > > state. You can see the bugs still in Incomplete state via the Plots > > link above. > > > > And that's pretty much it. If you are looking for a way to contribute > > some help to Inkscape that doesn't require an extensive time commitment, > > this is one of the easiest ways to make a difference. Plus it's > > addictive! You can track your "karma score" at this link: > > > > https://launchpad.net/inkscape/+topcontributors > > > > Getting yourself up into the top 5 is a good challenge if you have the > > interest and time to put into it. Karma degrades over time, so even if > > you're starting from 0 you have a chance to catch up and pass the long > > timers! > > > > Bryce > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/java… > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > >

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Saving as PDF creates a very large file
by Stephane Eybert 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

Okay. Then how to get these fonts into inkscape..? They must be bought somewhere and install..? Isn't there any font in inkscape that is present by default in pdf..? Thanks ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ---- Från: Mr. Shawn H. Corey <shawnhcorey@...1487...> Till: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Skickat: lördag 19 april 2008 2:02:05 Ämne: Re: [Inkscape-user] Saving as PDF creates a very large file On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 23:24 +0000, Stephane Eybert wrote: > I cannot see these fonts in my inkscape. > > Times－Roman Helvetica Courier > Symbol > Times－Bold Helvetica－Bold Courier－Bold > ZapfDingbats > Times－Italic Helvetica-Oblique Courier－Oblique > Times-BoldItalic Helvetica－BoldOblique Courier－BoldOblique > > There are lots of fonts but not these above. Sorry, these are the standard fonts that are available in PDF. That is a flaw in Inkscape: if they have an export as PDF, then they should also have the PDF standard fonts available. -- Just my 0.00000002 million dollars worth, Shawn When I was in college, my Karate instructor said, "The first hundred are easy." Since then, I discovered he'd lied. Life's too big to describe in hundreds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/java… _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user ___________________________________________________ Sök efter kärleken! Hitta din tvillingsjäl på Yahoo! Dejting: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;185753627;24584539;x?http://se.meetic.yahoo.n…

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Saving as PDF creates a very large file
by Stephane Eybert 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

On my Kubuntu Linux the libcairo is the following: Package libcairo is a virtual package provided by: libcairo2 1.4.10-1ubuntu4.4 I went to the libcairo website at https://launchpad.net/libcairo and apparently the latest release is cairo-1.5.20.tar.gz Cheers ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ---- Från: Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@...2497...> Till: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Skickat: lördag 19 april 2008 12:17:32 Ämne: Re: [Inkscape-user] Saving as PDF creates a very large file Stephane Eybert wrote: > So I reinstalled inkscape and now have the 0.46 build April 8 2008 with > Cairo. > > I did a save as pdf, I did not check the convert text to path checkbox, > and the pdf file is still 1.5mb. > > How to check for the version of cairo...? If you open the PDF and look in the document properties of your PDF viewer it will tell you the version of cairo that created the PDF. You can also check your distro package installer to see what version of libcairo is installed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/java… _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user ___________________________________________________ Sök efter kärleken! Hitta din tvillingsjäl på Yahoo! Dejting: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;185753627;24584539;x?http://se.meetic.yahoo.n…

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Pressure sensitivity using Tablet Laptop
by Manuel Alexandre Pouchon 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

Dear Group, I have installed the latest Inkscape (0.46) onto my tablet laptop "Lenovo X61 Tablet" under Vista SP1. I try to use the pressure sensitive features of the pen, but Inkscape does not show the tablet/pen under the external input devices (of course not, it is internal). Does anyone know a trick how I can trigger Inkscape to recognize the pressure sensitivity of the pen? (First I thought that the pen was not pressure sensitive, but using the M$ Office "Ink Annotations"-tool, it is). Thanks a lot for your help! Manuel

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Saving as PDF creates a very large file
by Stephane Eybert 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

So I reinstalled inkscape and now have the 0.46 build April 8 2008 with Cairo. I did a save as pdf, I did not check the convert text to path checkbox, and the pdf file is still 1.5mb. How to check for the version of cairo...? ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ---- Från: Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@...2497...> Till: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Skickat: lördag 19 april 2008 11:56:22 Ämne: Re: [Inkscape-user] Saving as PDF creates a very large file Stephane Eybert wrote: > Okay. Then how to get these fonts into inkscape..? > > They must be bought somewhere and install..? > > Isn't there any font in inkscape that is present by default in pdf..? > > Thanks > > > > ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ---- > Från: Mr. Shawn H. Corey <shawnhcorey@...1487...> > Till: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Skickat: lördag 19 april 2008 2:02:05 > Ämne: Re: [Inkscape-user] Saving as PDF creates a very large file > > On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 23:24 +0000, Stephane Eybert wrote: > > I cannot see these fonts in my inkscape. > > > > Times－Roman Helvetica Courier > > Symbol > > Times－Bold Helvetica－Bold Courier－Bold > > ZapfDingbats > > Times－Italic Helvetica-Oblique Courier－Oblique > > Times-BoldItalic Helvetica－BoldOblique Courier－BoldOblique > > > > There are lots of fonts but not these above. > > Sorry, these are the standard fonts that are available in PDF. That is > a flaw in Inkscape: if they have an export as PDF, then they should > also have the PDF standard fonts available. The cairo PDF exporter in Inkscape 0.46 does not support creating PDF files that uses, but does not embed, the 14 standard PostScript fonts. Cairo subsets the fonts it embeds so the embedded fonts do not take up much space. The standard fonts feature has been deprecated since PDF 1.5 and it is now recommended that all fonts used in the PDF are embdeded. If you are having problems with large PDF files sizes I recommend ensuring that Inkscape is using version 1.6 or later of cairo and the "Convert text to paths" option is not set. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event.. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/java… _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user ___________________________________________________ Sök efter kärleken! Hitta din tvillingsjäl på Yahoo! Dejting: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;185753627;24584539;x?http://se.meetic.yahoo.n…

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Saving as PDF creates a very large file
by Stephane Eybert 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

Hello, I have a brochure in an svg file. I tried to save it as PDF using inkscape 0.46 on Linux Kubuntu. But the PDF file size is in the megabytes... when my svg file is very small. How come it gets to big in PDF..? What can I do to have a normal size PDF file..? Cheers -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Saving-as-PDF-creates-a-very-large-file-tp16762340p16… Sent from the Inkscape - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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