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Re: [Inkscape-user] spot colour
by Mathew Oakes 06 Jun '09

06 Jun '09

HI Jon, I agree that littleCMS does matter, I just meant for the purpose of outputting separations. Thanks for your insightful links, as usual I am totally impressed with the work of Inkscape community and your input here is clearly very important. The concept of common swatch library format across different programs is really fantastic, and the kind of co-operation that is needed to provide viable alternatives to adobe creative suite. Sorry if my tone was too strong, but I have many reasons to prefer working in inkscape, and this particular point is a terrible difficulty in terms of being able to use my artwork over the full range of media. I'll be looking into your workaround mentioned when I have time! cheers Mat > > > > LittleCMS doesn't matter particularly as the answer to the original > > question from Terry Brown. Printing as SPOT colour, means output > > separations for named colours individually, not mixed as CMYK, RGB, > > LAB or anything else. > > LittleCMS actually does matter. > > It gives support for *previewing* output results, for detecting out > of gamut colors, and even for using named color icc profiles. The > latter is probably the primary way to reliably and portably denote > spot colors, but SVG hasn't integrated direct use of them yet. > > A functional work-around would be to have an icc profile with a > single number input, and that does an effective index into a set of > spot colors. A bit strange, but should work with Inkscape 0.46 as it > was released.

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Re: [Inkscape-user] spot colour
by Mathew Oakes 06 Jun '09

06 Jun '09

The discussion around spot colour largely misses the point as I see it. As a professional graphic artist I think its an important thing to have clearly understood. Colour support has become my #1 problem with using inkscape at work. Well, that mixed with the fact of the difficulty of getting editable artwork to work the same in illustrator (just for setting up separations for output). LittleCMS doesn't matter particularly as the answer to the original question from Terry Brown. Printing as SPOT colour, means output separations for named colours individually, not mixed as CMYK, RGB, LAB or anything else. Example: - Pantone 872C is a gold metallic ink (can't be accurately mixed in other systems). - On spot colour output you want a separation of solid black ink (to make the printing plate), labelled Pantone 872 (for the ink that is applied). - To approximate it on screen you want specific RGB values - To approximate it web-safe you need some other RGB values - To approximate it on desktop printer you need some CMYK values Nasty workaround: ============= I started doing graphics in the beginning of the desktop publishing almost 20 years ago, and there was time like 90-91 where you had to abuse the CMYK separations to get spot separations out of illustrator and freehand: - re-color your artwork before sending to the printer, - so 'Pantone 872C' became cyan (for instance), and - make sure the printer had clear instructions replacing cyan with Pantone 872C Changing applied colours like that in inkscape is laborious for complex artwork. Its probably less work than the suggestion in this thread of setting up layers for the various colours, exporting them individually and manually aligining the separations later in other programs. The problem? ========== I think the reason this is not addressed in inkscape, is the way that colors are stored and used. We can use a palette to apply a color. Later we cannot change the palette - and even if we could, it wouldn't change all instances where that colour is applied. The established solution: ================== Illustrator has an additional concept of swatches - where the colour properties of objects are linked to a swatch object. Swatches can be changed, changing all objects/lines/fills/gradientstops that reference them. This is extremely useful in complex illustrations where you might have several colours that mean things, but need to adjust them later in the process. A spot colour needs to be defined like a swatch, so that the one definition can be used identically across many different objects, and later used as a separation. That also allows artwork to move between colour spaces, as each swatch can have a representation defined in each colour space. That is the real value that the downloadable profiles and swatch libraries provide -- the ability to match output from different devices eg. screen (RGB), web-safe (RGB), inkjet (CMYK),web offset lithography (CMYK with colour profile) and spot colour reproduction.

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Re: [Inkscape-user] SVG Font Editor
by quetim porta 04 Jun '09

04 Jun '09

Hi Olivier. I have been playing a little with the Beta. I believe that the problem is apparently solved. I made the following: I recorded my live playing in Harmony and route the output to Samplitude music studio. So, i recorded in Harmony and the midi output at same time. I exported the Harmony recording and merged them in a same midi file. If you open it in a Piano-roll, you can see some differences. I transpose the samplitude record one step down. So, the note above is the harmony record, and the one down, is the samplitude one. There are some timing differences, but what catch my attention was the velocity differences. The midi file Harmony export has very high values compared with the real input. Hope i expressed myself clear enough. Any question is welcome. Best Regards. --- On Tue, 5/19/09, Alvin Penner <penner@...2467...> wrote: From: Alvin Penner <penner@...2467...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] SVG Font Editor To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 12:25 AM bulia byak wrote: > > Thanks Felipe, I added this to release notes: > thanks for the documentation, this should certainly whet peoples' appetites. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/SVG-Font-Editor-tp23574059p23606454.html Sent from the Inkscape - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

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Re: [Inkscape-user] color print
by Guillermo Espertino 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

I do a lot of print in my design studio using Inkscape and free software. If I need to send the whole image as a single tiff to the print shop, I do the following: - Export the Inkscape artwork as 300 dpi PNG. - Open in GIMP and use the separate+ plugin using the desired profile - Save as CMYK tiff from the separate+ menu. - Send to print shop as tiff, or embed the cmyk tiff in a PDF using Scribus. The profiles I use depend on the print shop where I'll send the artwork to. I use adobe profiles (euroscale coated v2, for instance) if I don't know what profile my printshop uses. People from USA might want to use swop instead. If the printer provides a profile, then I use that. Since almost everybody uses adobe software and it's quite common that they don't use custom rgb profiles, I use AdobeRGB for my RGB profile. I've never had important problems so far. Gez.

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Calligraphic pens and paths
by Benct Philip Jonsson 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Is there any hope that Inkscape will ever allow to apply calligraphic pens to paths the way Illustrator does? Is it hard to implement? Are the Adobe guys sitting on some patent there? Is it only I who want it? It would create a dedicated Linux user as it would remove my last incentive to ever use Windows... /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "C'est en vain que nos Josués littéraires crient à la langue de s'arrêter; les langues ni le soleil ne s'arrêtent plus. Le jour où elles se *fixent*, c'est qu'elles meurent." (Victor Hugo)

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10 awesome inkscape tutorials.
by ryan lerch 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Hi all, I case you haven't seen it yet, the inkscape tutorials blog recently posted a top 10 tutorials list. be sure to check it out! http://inkscapetutorials.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/10-of-the-best-inkscape-t… cheers, ryanlerch

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Landscape printing
by Abrolag 29 May '09

29 May '09

I'm a bit out of the loop here lately. Did the problems of landscape printing get resolved? Currently (with V 0.46) I have to save the file as a PDF via cairo then load this into evince and print from there. -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk

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[OS X] X11 clipboard vs. OS X pasteboard
by ~suv 29 May '09

29 May '09

X11 (Xquartz) v.2.3.x has several preferences to sync between OS X Pasteboard and X11 CLIPBOARD and PRIMARY buffers. While testing 0.46+devel rev21339 I noticed that in Inkscape copying/pasting to/from the clipboard always resulted in bitmaps with all vector information lost (no Paste Style, Paste Size possible) - restoring default Inkscape preferences didn't help. It seems that the X11 preference 'Update Pasteboard when CLIPBOARD changes' somehow prevents Inkscape from keeping vector information in the clipboard even when ^C/^V objects/shapes in one drawing or between 2 windows. Unchecking said option in X11 disables clipboard xfer from Inkscape to native OS X applications and restores full Inkscape functionality. Can someone verify on a updated system (10.5.6 with X11 2.3.2 or 10.5.7 with X11 2.3.3) if the 'out-of-the-box' installation disables Inkscapes native clipboard functions? I could not find related infos in Inkscape Wiki or launchpad answers/bugs.

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Openclipart.org import defaults to png
by Richard Querin 29 May '09

29 May '09

Why is it that when an entry on openclipart.org has both png and svg versions, Inkscape imports the png? Shouldn't it import the svg by default if there is more than one choice? RQ

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Presidential candidate poster - chance to advertise Inkscape
by Ocetalo 28 May '09

28 May '09

Hi there! I've got news. Gustavo Petro <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavo_Petro> is a candidate running for presidential elections in Colombia. His campaign is preparing a different, innovative, ludic, alternative campaign. An artist is in charge of his campaign advertising but they've called volunteers to design the official poster. Please check this draft version<http://www.colombiasinguerra.com/profiles/blogs/con-gustavo-petro-acordemos…>someone here made and give opinions. I think it is raw tracing, something better could be done. It would be great to have it designed in Inkscape but I'm not that skilled. I'm summoning your skills!

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