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Fwd: Next Release Codename + Mascot Competition
by Robert Crosbie 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

Forwarding this from the ubuntu-announce list since they speficically mention inkscape and people on this list probably have mastered a bit of the inkscape-fu. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jeff Waugh <jeff.waugh@...535...> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:26:10 +1100 Subject: Next Release Codename + Mascot Competition To: Ubuntu Announce <ubuntu-announce@...536...> Good morning freedom lovers! Today I'm very pleased to announce the codename for the next Ubuntu release, due in October 2005... It will be known as Ubuntu 5.10, the Breezy Badger! Ah, the SABDFL gives us another quizzical name to figure out... What could it mean this time? Warty Warthog was meant to be a bit warty, being our first release - but out turned out to be wonderful! Hoary Hedgehog is the wiser, more mature Ubuntu, being our second release. But "breezy"? Will the next release be... windy? Hmm... Using the handy dictionary in my Ubuntu menus, I found out that breezy also means "fresh, brisk and full of life". Is this what the SABDFL intended? I do not know, for he is ever mysterious... but it sounds very much like the Ubuntu we know and love! * Fresh - with supported releases every six months, Ubuntu gives you the latest and greatest of the Open Source world, tested and tamed by the Ubuntu development team... and it's so easy to upgrade! * Brisk - whether you're looking for a zippy desktop or a supercharged server, Ubuntu is swift and sturdy. With a brand new LiveCD on every architecture, or our simple and speedy installer, Ubuntu is ready for action... fast! * Full of life - the Ubuntu community has blossomed in the six months since our first public release, with users and developers participating in our mailing lists, forums, wikis, local community teams, package maintenance, and international commercial support through our Ubuntu Marketplace. Over 10,000 users have registered to participate on the forums alone! It's an incredible community to be part of - get involved today! Breezy Badger - fresh, brisk and full of life! The Ubuntu developer team will begin work on Breezy Badger in April, driving towards its final release in October 2005. In the mean time, look forward to the final release of Ubuntu 5.04 - the Hoary Hedgehog - in very early April. Mascot Competition ------------------ Have you mastered the art of Inkscape-fu? We're looking for a Breezy Badger developer mascot, and great artists to show us who the Breezy Badger really is! Here's the vital details: * Submissions should be scalable vector illustrations, in SVG format. * The Breezy Badger is an extremely rare South American breed, not a friend of colder climates. ;-) Obviously, submissions should depict a badger! * Please send submissions or questions to <jeff.waugh@...535...>. * Competition closes on Monday, April 25th - the first day of Ubuntu Down Under <http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuDownUnder>. * A winner will be announced on Saturday, April 30th - the last day of Ubuntu Down Under. The winning mascot will appear in the Breezy Badger development artwork, to cheer on Ubuntu developers and testers over the next six months... and may even sneak into the final Breezy Badger release... somewhere. ;-) Rock and roll! - Jeff -- UbuntuDownUnder: April 25th-30th http://www.ubuntu.com/ "It's not sufficient to 'use simple words to explain things'. Things must actually *be* simple, which is much harder." - Martin Pool -- ubuntu-announce mailing list ubuntu-announce@...536... http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce

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xml editor has disappeared
by Paul Bolger 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

Pardon me if this has come up before, but my XML edit mode seems to have gone... inkscape win2k latest build, and a couple of others I downloaded to see if it makes difference... When I click the XML edit button, or select it from a menu... nothing.

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SVG animation - Query
by Paul Jensen 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

Hi, I remember reading somewhere that Inkscape would be adding SVG animation features to the software, similar to what Macromedia Flash does. Is this true, and if so, when will the features be available? Regards, Mr Spanky, the erotic goldfish

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Saved SVG doesn't match GUI
by Lou Quillio 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

[No luck searching archives on this.] The Inkscape document I've been working on for a few hours does not save what's on my display, either in Inkscape or plain SVG. It's instead saving-off a mystery document with artifacts from prior versions of my document. Bitmaps export fine. I've also copied over my visible elements to a fresh doc, but it suffers the same problem. Saving worked properly for awhile, but at some point it got confused -- perhaps when I briefly opened a second instance of Inkscape. This doc is naturally intended to be my master, so I'm worried. Does anyone know a way to recover from this? I'm gonna keep this doc open until I find a solution, unless Inkscape crashes first. [Ubuntu Debian, Linux 2.6.8, i386, Inkscape .40] Thanks. LQ -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Lou Quillio Box 459, Cambridge, NY USA 12816-1143 http://quillio.com/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Introduction
by Christopher B. Wright 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

I just signed up to the list today. I've been testing Inkscape privately and am impressed enough with it that I plan to be using it heavily. This is described as the "User's List" on Sourceforge, as opposed to the "Developer's List," and since I'm not a developer this seems like the right one for me. But I have a question: what is appropriate Inkscape discussion here, and what is not? What I mean is: it may be entirely appropriate to ask questions about how to use the program, the best way to optimize it, sharing tricks and tips... and it may *not* be appropriate to request features or critique how some features are implemented. I'd like to participate responsibly and can't find any guidelines that outline what the limits of conversation on this list are (there were not that were immediately obvious to me, at any rate -- I may have overlooked them). At any rate, I plan on using Inkscape (on a Mepis partition) quite heavily and am moving from CorelDraw (on a Windows partition), which is what I've been using for the last four years or so. That's all for now. Just testing the waters... Christopher B. Wright (wrightc@...537...)

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Introduction
by Christopher B. Wright 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

--- bulia byak <buliabyak@...155...> wrote: > > Yes, I think feature requests and critique are best > discussed on the devel list. > So are non-developers welcome on that list? I know some projects prefer that only the people actively designing and coding the application use those lists, in order to keep communication as uncluttered as possible. Christopher B. Wright (wrightc@...537...)

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export custom doc size to pdf
by Michal Žeravík 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

Hi all, I have custom (320x260mm) document size and want to save it to pdf 1.3. How can I do that? Are you planning to make nicer print/export dialog? thanks michal

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view/export oversampling stills
by Michal Žeravík 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

Hi, I can't switch off oversampling, there is still 2x2. Well, it is used for export. Would you use it for viewing as well? Maybe some button... Michal

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NEW: Unsetting paint and painting clones
by bulia byak 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

New in CVS: * Unsetting paint and painting clones: Both Fill and Stroke tabs of the Fill&Stroke dialog have a new mode button, "Unset paint" (with a question mark icon). Pressing this button removes the fill or stroke property from the style of selected objects, which has the visible effect of painting them black. The usefulness of this is that clones of such an object can redefine the unset fill or stroke, which means you can have clones painted differently from their original and from each other. Just use the Fill&Stroke dialog on a clone to assign it any kind of fill or stroke paint (flat color, gradient, etc.). Moreover, you can unset paint on some of the objects in a group, clone the group, and paint the clone; only those objects with unset paint will accept the paint, while others will retain their original paint.

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Inkscape for AI users: a revert war :)
by bulia byak 15 Mar '05

15 Mar '05

Recently the wiki user Kwixson has significantly expanded and rewritten the "Inkscape for AI users" document on our wiki. Some of his edits seemed strange to me, and I proposed my variants. Unfortunately we could not reach a consensus, so after several mutual reverts we decided to post here and ask for the help and judgement from the community. The latest revision with our extensive comments is here: http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?IllustratorUsers Below I briefly list the things I disagree with. 0. To begin, I really appreciate the input on this document from the user who obviously knows AI well. This is some kind of expertise which I personally lack, so I would not be able to write such a document all by myself. Obviously it must be written from an AI user's point of view and use AI terminology and concepts. 1. However, Kwixson's approach seems to go further than that. He apparently wants this document to describe _only_ those things which you can do in Illustrator, and describe them exactly _the same way_ as one would do them in Illustrator, even if Inkscape offers more convenient methods. I think this is wrong. 2. With Kwixson's approach, Inkscape would always seem inferior to AI, because you can't win just by copying. You can't be a better Illustrator than Illustrator, you need to be different to be better. And indeed Kwixson's text has a generally condescending tone and phrases like "is much less responsive", "is not as intuitive" etc. We need to be honest about Inkscape's weaknesses, but these judgements were often not based on any real weaknesses. 3. After all, who is this document for? Those who like AI the way it is will never switch, so it seems stupid to target them in such a document. I think we need to target those who are used to AI but are looking for something different and better. And therefore we must stress our strengths and differences, explaining them in a way which is easy to understand for AI users. Now on to specific examples. A. Kwixson has removed my mention of keyboard accessibility, in particular keys for screen-pixel-sized transformations, claiming this is not important. I've seen this attitude before from other AI users; they tend to dismiss this because they don't have it. Those who are really using Inkscape (or Xara, where I got the idea from, though by now Inkscape's keyboard is superior even to Xara) will disagree. B. In the section on shapes, Kwixson has removed my explanation of the difference between a shape and a path and the unique features that shapes offer. Instead he inserted an advice to do Ctrl+Shift+C (convert to path) as soon as you created a shape, to be able to node-edit it! This is because AI does not have shapes as such, treating everything as paths. I think this is plain stupid. Inkscape's shapes are clearly superior to those of any other program I know, and we must present them as such. C. In the section on Node tool, Kwixson provided some very cumbersome descriptions of how to convert a segment from curve to straight line and how to continue a path. When I proposed much simpler and more straightforward ways to do the same, he insisted that his descriptions closely match the way AI does this and therefore must stay. Once again, I don't see why one should go through all this when there's a much simpler way. Disclaimer on this point: I cannot even claim to completely understand Kwixson's descriptions, so I may have missed something important in them. Please anyone who knows AI's path editing, review these paragraphs and let us know what you think. Any feedback will be appreciated. I'm crossposting this to the user list too.

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