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Copy object to new document
by Pedro Blom 31 Jan '05

31 Jan '05

Is there a way to copy an object to new document? Lets say I made a website design and want to save just the logo to a new SVG document. /Pedro

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Re: Re: Misplaced objects with librsvg or EPS
by David Bellot 31 Jan '05

31 Jan '05

>It's not surprising, as your file uses <symbol> elements with viewbox= >attribute. We do not officially support them yet. As you see they >render OK, but obviously they have bugs because they were not tested >up to now. In your file they likely originate from Illustrator. > > Yes, symbols come from Illustrator. Is there any way to correct this by hand as I'd like to deeply test my file with gnome aisleriot before releasing the file ? >Could you please submit this to bug tracker so we would not forget about it? > > OK David

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Gradient Editor design and Macromedia Freehand
by joz mak 31 Jan '05

31 Jan '05

Hi, I have posted some screen shot of Freehand MX's gradient palettes. They can be seen here: http://jozmak.heydo.com/wallpapers/screensavers.htm jozsefmak -- _____________________________________________________________ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. >From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze

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Misplaced objects with librsvg or EPS
by David Bellot 31 Jan '05

31 Jan '05

Hi, here is a challenge for you guys, inkscape users, and a big trouble for me. I created this deck of cards with Illustrator and Inkscape. The final work has been made with Inkscape. Inkscape renders the file perfectly but when I convert my file to EPS (or PS or ai) or regular SVG, I obtain a messy rendering where all my objects are misplaced and rotation as misinterpreted. Do you have any idea ? I want to render that file with librsvg as this file is for aisleriot. Link to my file : http://david.bellot.free.fr/bellot.svg Thanks for your help David

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selection lists behind dialog boxes OS X
by Trevis Martin 30 Jan '05

30 Jan '05

Hi folks, First let me say what a great program inkscape is! I'm really happy to find it! Now on to the problem :-) I compiled inkscape myself according to the instructions on the wiki and it runs fine on OS X 10.3.7. I'm seeing two issues so far. The first one is the most annoying and that is on the stroke menus, when choosing style, the drop down list appears behind the box so you can't see part of it. This is even more true in areas like preferences where you cannot see the drop-down lists for things like "Dialogs On Top" in the "Windows" Tab, at all b/c it is completely concealed behind the window. Did I screw up the compile or do something wrong here? The second thing is that it seems that it refuses to save a file in .ai format. I just save it in svg anyway but when experimenting I found that it always gave an error message that file /Path/name/of/file could not be saved. Any ideas about either of those.? Patches or anything I could apply? Thanks, Trevis

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[survey] export bitmap/batch
by Alexandre Prokoudine 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

Hi, We are planning to do some redesign work on export bitmap palette and export in common. We'd like to know better how you use "export to bitmap" function, what you're missing and what is your way to do export. Basically, we see two ways of exporting: 1. Common "Export.." dialog, where file formats will be listed and option dialog will raise upon choosing of of them. 2. Current "Export to bitmap" palette for those people who do export to some bitmap file format all the time. What we need is decent descriptions (use cases) of your workflow a propos exporting. Another important thing is batch export. If you need batch exporting, please provide us information, what is the best way to do batch export in ian application like Inkscape according to your experience. Thank you in advance. Alexandre

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Text Stability
by Robert C. Smith 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

I typed a page with the same font in 3 different sizes and then deleted one of the titles. In re-doing it, I attempted to move the box which comes down from the Text at the top by clicking on the very top bar, and everything went nuts and I lost everything. I presume I should read the Help section; ...but did I do something really stupid? Robert.

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My impressions on Inkscape
by Jozsef Mak 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

As a long time Macromedia Freehand user I was curious about the latest release of Inkscape, which I have been testing for about a week. These are my observations. Inkscape's interface is so unintuitive that it almost hurts. The layout and the look and feel of the various panels and dialog boxes are awful. They lack coherence, functionality and are badly implemented. Examples: the Object properties palette is a puzzle; I expected that this would be one of the most important panels where the essential parameters of the selected object can be found and edited. I've found nothing to edit there. The font palette looks like it was borrowed from an office suite. The implementation of gradients are so weird that hard to describe. The Export Bitmap dialog box is poorly designed, the window wouldn't even close after saving files. The program lacks the tool to group panels into different panel groups. In addition, most of the features are incomplete. The new text on path is nice but, if you design a circular logo, most of the time, you would want to put text on the top and on the bottom of the circle. Can you do this in Inkscape? I couldn't figure out. Also when export text on path, it exports the path as well, which is unacceptable. Another example: the implementation of patterns. It is nice to have it but it is basic to have the tool to edit it after applied to a shape (moving, scaling and so on). Without this the feature has limited use. I also couldn't rename pattens but stuck with the generic names. I missed the preset zoom settings at the left bottom corner, as well. A word on priorities. In my view adding features should proceed from the most essential toward the less important. At the hart of a vector drawing program one expect to find tools, such as swatches, gradients, tints and pattern palettes and the capacity to to export and import them from one document to the other. Symbols are also essential to work efficiently. Until they are implemented pointless adding less commonly used ones like bitmap tracing, for instance. Any graphic artist can tell that this is a relatively seldom used tool in the actual work environment. By the way, I liked the Tracing Bitmap tool. What impressed me in Inkscape is the ingenious and interactive ways it allows to edit shapes. Also the fact that I could stroke path with gradient without first expanding it. I found great that I could export a selection rather than the entire ardboard; this feature dearly missed even in adobe illustrator. I also liked the options on the upper menu bar. This helps setting parameters effortlessly and it eliminates the need of dealing with additional dialog boxes which are always nuisances. I liked the layers and the fact that they are collapsible�-one more thing less cluttering the work environment. Would be nice if I could move object from one layer to the other with a click of a mouse. My conclusion: before adding additional features polish up and complete the existing ones. Also before go on adding more tools implement the fundamentals (swatches, tints, gradients, patterns, symbols and so on) and redo the interface from scratch. jozsefmak

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loading large files
by MenTaLguY 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

I've finally had an opportunity to spend some time analyzing the problem you had loading that large SVG. Your file did eventually load, although I think it may have taken as much as half an hour to do so on my machine. In Inkscape, sibling XML nodes are currently kept in singly-linked lists, which are not an efficient data structure when dealing with large numbers of siblings (in this case, more than 87000). It is possible to use faster data structures, but they would come at the cost of using extra memory. As it was, once the document loaded my machine ran out of memory when the renderer kicked in. So, I'm not really sure what the best course of action would be. I do think we have a problem dealing with large documents in general. I am CCing the development list for their suggestions. -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: [Inkscape-user] loading large files
by unknown＠example.com 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

Hi, Thanks very much for looking into this further. I re-emerged inkscape and tried loading the file again but, I'm afraid, gave up after 12 minutes or so. <snip> > > Your file did eventually load, although I think it may have taken as > > > much as half an hour to do so on my machine. > > > > Wow, it was under 2 minutes on mine :) (I'm speaking about > > 1236745up.svg, is this what you tried?) > > Yep. I was also starting to swap a bit towards the end, which may have > contributed. > > Mine didn't get to the point of swapping, instead (watching top) I see that it rapidly uses up 55.5% or so of memory and then stops using any more (at least until I killed it). What machines you are running on? Mine is a 1700MHz Pentium M, 512Mb ram. <snip> > > Just FYI, Batik ran out of memory on that document, and Adobe never > > loaded it either (maybe it would if I waited long enough, but I doubt > > that). So Inkscape was the only software capable of loading and even > > editing it. > > Yes, Batik failed for me as well. I didn't have Adobe handy. > > w.r.t singly-linked-lists, does Sodipodi store these structures differently? Sodipodi opens this file in about 30 seconds on my machine. However, both sodipodi and my colleague's copy of Adobe, which also loads the file, seem to chop off the image (which is very wide) at its left and right extents - so perhaps they don't really load the whole file. Perhaps I'm just asking too much & should make my files smaller? Thanks again, gav. P.S. Incidentally, Adobe has a nice feature - a progress bar while it's loading... ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/

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