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loading large files
by MenTaLguY 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

I've finally had an opportunity to spend some time analyzing the problem you had loading that large SVG. Your file did eventually load, although I think it may have taken as much as half an hour to do so on my machine. In Inkscape, sibling XML nodes are currently kept in singly-linked lists, which are not an efficient data structure when dealing with large numbers of siblings (in this case, more than 87000). It is possible to use faster data structures, but they would come at the cost of using extra memory. As it was, once the document loaded my machine ran out of memory when the renderer kicked in. So, I'm not really sure what the best course of action would be. I do think we have a problem dealing with large documents in general. I am CCing the development list for their suggestions. -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: [Inkscape-user] loading large files
by unknown＠example.com 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

Hi, Thanks very much for looking into this further. I re-emerged inkscape and tried loading the file again but, I'm afraid, gave up after 12 minutes or so. <snip> > > Your file did eventually load, although I think it may have taken as > > > much as half an hour to do so on my machine. > > > > Wow, it was under 2 minutes on mine :) (I'm speaking about > > 1236745up.svg, is this what you tried?) > > Yep. I was also starting to swap a bit towards the end, which may have > contributed. > > Mine didn't get to the point of swapping, instead (watching top) I see that it rapidly uses up 55.5% or so of memory and then stops using any more (at least until I killed it). What machines you are running on? Mine is a 1700MHz Pentium M, 512Mb ram. <snip> > > Just FYI, Batik ran out of memory on that document, and Adobe never > > loaded it either (maybe it would if I waited long enough, but I doubt > > that). So Inkscape was the only software capable of loading and even > > editing it. > > Yes, Batik failed for me as well. I didn't have Adobe handy. > > w.r.t singly-linked-lists, does Sodipodi store these structures differently? Sodipodi opens this file in about 30 seconds on my machine. However, both sodipodi and my colleague's copy of Adobe, which also loads the file, seem to chop off the image (which is very wide) at its left and right extents - so perhaps they don't really load the whole file. Perhaps I'm just asking too much & should make my files smaller? Thanks again, gav. P.S. Incidentally, Adobe has a nice feature - a progress bar while it's loading... ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/

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Head's up on 0.41 release
by Bryce Harrington 27 Jan '05

27 Jan '05

Hi guys, This is just an fyi that we're entering the run-up to the 0.41 release today, and have entered feature-freeze mode. I guestimate we'll have the official 0.41 release out in about 10 days. Meantime, this would be an opportune time to be downloading and testing the nightly snapshots. We'll probably be announcing release candidates starting in a week or so. At this point we're looking for crash bugs, data loss, and build failures, that have not yet been reported. 0.41 is primarily a bug fix release; there's a few new features but no major changes. The main motivation for this release is that 0.42 is going to have major changes going in, and want to get a good stable release out before we delve into this work. Bryce

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Re: German Tutorials
by Robin Pfeifer 26 Jan '05

26 Jan '05

Ted Gould: > I don't know what you schedule looks like, but we're probably going to > have a release in the next week or two, so if you hurry we could > probably get a few into this release. Bryce Harrington: > Yes, that'd be a great addition. Translation of the tutorials should be > straightforward, but please ask questions if you run into any trouble. Thanks for the welcome. I doubt that I can be *that* fast, though. Especially as I keep running into a strange problem I haven't yet found a solution for (and it appears not to be in the list of known bugs either). I have started out by taking the basic tutorial, copying it, and replacing the English paragraphs one at a time with German ones. In order to keep the formatting (bold face for keys to be pressed) I have tried to write my text around the bold parts so I could simply re-use them, but in some cases I have had to do that formatting myself in the XML editor, and that's my first encounter with direct XML formatting ever (there's a really loud and pleading, almost whining FEATURE REQUEST coming up here: decent text formatting!). Anyway, here's the problem: maybe I have done something wrong during my dabbling with the editor, but now whenever I write or delete something in those paragraphs, the amount of used RAM is stepped up by as much as 2 MB per keystroke. Add a letter, +2MB. Delete it again, +2 MB. That goes un until most free RAM is used (some 205 MB of 218 MB free RAM), then the same goes on in swap, 2 MB at a time, until both RAM and swap are full. After which the hard disk unsurprisingly begins to work like hell, the system becomes unresponsive and after a quarter of an hour or so, during which the system only staggeringly accepts mouse movement and the clock only counts every ten seconds or even more rarely, Inkscape disappears. I can work around this problem by saving and closing before RAM and swap are full, then closing Inkscape and opening it again. RAM won't be freed unless I close the program. That way I'm unable to edit more than a paragraph, most of the time even less, before I have to restart the program. I haven't been able to get the same error in a fresh file, even with using the XML editor and entering substantially more text than I've already translated. It doesn't appear in a Tutorial file I start editing anew, at least not immediately (though I haven't tried to get as far as I got with my first file), but it does get inherited if I copy the paragraphs I've already done over into a new file. If anyone is interested in taking a look at that file I can send out the unfinished translation file by e-mail. And then there's one other thing I've found out so far: using ` to cycle through zoom views does not work with a German keyboard layout, as you need the Shift key to even get this symbol (the Shift-less symbol on the same key is '). These symbols are used to make accented letters (é, è) unless the so-called 'dead keys' are disabled, but even then it seems you can't use them for cycling through zoom settings; at least I can't. Robin

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German Tutorials
by Robin Pfeifer 25 Jan '05

25 Jan '05

Hi, I'm Robin, new on the list as of today. I'm German, and I really like Inkscape. In a German Linux forum I saw a post this morning asking for German versions of the Inkscape tutorials, and it appears there are none - at least none that I could find. So if there are no objections, I'd like to do those translations myself, and of course make them available to the public, as a way of repaying the inkscape community for providing such a valuable program. Robin >From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jan 24 13:20:10 2005 Message-ID: <1106601585.41f566719bc05@...32...> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:19:45 -0500 From: mental@...438... To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Hi, I'm a beginner References: <200501222208.01955.valc@...389...> <200501242145.08964.valc@...389...> <41F40914.50107@...355...> <200501251421.22668.valc@...389...> In-Reply-To: <200501251421.22668.valc@...389...> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 208.20.220.69 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 at rydia.net X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. Report problems to http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001 0.2 NO_REAL_NAME From: does not include a real name Sender: inkscape-user-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: inkscape-user-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user>, <mailto:inkscape-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Id: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Post: <mailto:inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:inkscape-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user>, <mailto:inkscape-user-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=inkscape-user> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Valentin Cristescu <valc@...389...>: > Thank you, it's ok now. The XML Editor still doesn't work, but I don't kn= ow > if I need him. It's to technical for me. What is the problem with the XML editor? > So, the tab advise it's working. Right now I have one question: where can= I > find the wireframe view? It's not been implemented yet. -mental

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OSDL Desktop Linux Capabilities
by Bryce Harrington 25 Jan '05

25 Jan '05

For those interested in desktop linux in general, OSDL put out a first public draft (v0.9)of its DTL Capabilities document, for community review and comment. http://osdl.org/lab_activities/desktop_linux/DTL09/ Please feel free to send comment through myself or the mailing list on that page. (List subscription info is at lists.osdl.org.) Bryce

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converting svg to eps via commandline
by Steffen Glückselig 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

Hello, I'd like to convert a bunch of my svgs to eps-format automatically via the commandline. I noticed that there is no option like the one for exporting png but I found ------ -p PRINTER, --print=PRINTER Print document(s) to the specified printer using `lpr -P PRINTER'. Alternatively, use `| COMMAND' to specify a different command to pipe to, or use `> FILENAME' to write the PostScript output to a file instead of printing. Remember to do appropriate quoting for your shell, e.g. inkscape --print='| ps2pdf - mydoc.pdf' mydoc.svg ------ in the man-page which seems to come close. What do I have to do to get eps on a windows-system? thanks and best regards, Steffen

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Hi, I'm a beginner
by bulia byak 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:19:45 -0500, mental@...439... <mental@...439...> wrote: > Quoting Valentin Cristescu <valc@...389...>: > > > Thank you, it's ok now. The XML Editor still doesn't work, but I don't know > > if I need him. It's to technical for me. > > What is the problem with the XML editor? Probably http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1107866&group_id=9…

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Opening large files
by unknown＠example.com 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 18:53 -0500, MenTaLguY wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 gavinband@...418... wrote: > > > Hi, > > Sorry if this has already been dealt with but: > > I have a large svg file which I cannot open in Inkscape (v.0.40). > > My file is a large graph produced with graphviz (http://www.graphviz.org/), > > but inkscape seems to hang using 99% of the cpu when I try to open it. > > The same file opens in sodipodi 0.34, though admittedly it takes about 10s > > to open. After opening sodipodi is using about 68% of memory, on my 512Mb > > machine. Inkscape seems to stop using more memory after 55%, but it never > > opens. The svg file is about 5.1Mb. > > What platform are you on? > > -mental > Oh - sorry - Gentoo Linux, kernel 2.6.3, Gnome 2.8. gav. ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/

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How to cite Inkscape properly in a scientific paper?
by Albert 23 Jan '05

23 Jan '05

Dear all, A paper about to be submitted contains Inkscape schematic drawings. It is a must for the materials and methods section to cite all resources, such as the programs used to process and present the data. For ImageJ, I use a reference such as this: Rasband, W. (1997-2005). ImageJ. http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/. What would be a suitable way of citing Inkscape? Thank you. Albert Cardona Department of Genetics University of Barcelona C/ Diagonal 645 08080 Barcelona, Spain. ======++++++++====== http://www.pensament.net/java/ Tel: +34 934 021 500 Fax: +34 934 034 420 ======++++++++====== >From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 19 10:11:52 2005 Date: 19 Jan 2005 18:11:43 -0000 From: MAILER-DAEMON@...428... To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <E1CrKJ4-00062O-Gl@...270...> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 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