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Development version crash
by Michael Grosberg 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Should I file bug reports for crashes in development versions? The few latest development versions I downloaded all crash on my computer (Windows XP) when I load a file with linked or embedded images. I'm just not sure whether it's a known bug or not.

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Engraver's Toolbox in Linux (bulia byak)
by Donn 14 Apr '07

14 Apr '07

> Thanks, Donn! > > OK... So I want to map the "Windows" key to "meta" (or something like > that), but what do I map to the Alt key? Does it matter? > You know, I thought it would be easy to tell you how to do it. I use Kubuntu (KDE) and I have just spent 10 minutes going through the kcontrol and I cannot find where I set the Win key. There is such a confusing number of keyboard options (most under Regional and Access.) that your best bet is just to wade in and try stuff. Sorry 'bout that. /d

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NEW: touch selection
by bulia byak 14 Apr '07

14 Apr '07

In Selector tool, a new object selection mode is available: selecting by touch. In this mode, you draw a freehand path across the objects; when you release mouse button, all objects that are touched by this path get selected. This mode is very convenient in situations where you need to select objects so intermingled that selecting them by the rectangular rubberband is too difficult and so numerous that click-selecting them one by one is too tedious. To activate selecting by touch, whenever you are drawing a rubberband rectangle, just press Alt to switch it to the touch mode. The rectangle will disappear and a red touch path will be shown instead. When dragging from an empty space, you can press Alt first and then start to drag to get the touch mode (note that your selection must be empty, otherwise Alt+dragging will move the selected objects instead). To start a touch selection from a point over an object, or to add to existing selection by touching, press Shift+Alt and then start to drag. Comments: I'm not too fond of the name "touch selection"; naming suggestions are welcome. Note however that this is not a "lasso" because you don't need to enclose objects, just touch them; and it is not "magic wand" because it does not try to select similar-styled objects. Some Adobe Illustrator users have requested a support for an AI-like selection mode where any object _touched_ by the selection rectangle is selected. Inkscape's new touch selection mode should satisfy them - it is a superset of AI's functionality because a touch path can be arbitrary and not only a box. Note, however, that AI gets this exactly backwards: in it, a rectangle selection selects by touching, whereas a freehand "lasso tool" needs to enclose objects to select them (although its definition of "enclosing" is rather strange - I was able to get very difficult to explain results with that tool). -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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PC crawling due to apparent complexity -- need tips
by Charles Blaine 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Hi all, I poked into the gristle.org Jabber server for the first time ever but nobody was around. I've got the start of a drawing (much more detail to come in the drawing...) which is already making Inkscape crawwwwwl then quite often crash with some sort of "heap" issue when I push the complexity a bit further. The source of the problem, I suspect, is that I am tile cloning a (probably) complex shape and this is only the first of many I plan to tile clone for this drawing. I assume there is some way to simplify the object in question and I am just not experienced enough to know that technique. Or... perhaps it's a limitation in Inkscape? Anyway, here's a sample file containing 2 of the objects I am tile-cloning. You will find 2 objects (each grouped from many) and 2 "originals" the clones were generated from. http://www.kickflop.net/temp/inkscape-tiles-problem.svg Any help? Jeff B. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Google Summer of Code (raster functionality)
by Tony Vigil 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Why would built-in raster functionality create anything different than what you would get by doing your raster bits inside an external editor (i.e. GIMP) and importing the results into Inkscape? ----- Original Message ---- >> Raster Functionality in Inkscape >> by Christopher Brown, mentored by Theodore J. Gould > >I'm curious about this one because the writeup basically says this >will create things that aren't SVG. Is there a plan to make a new >file extension at some point? It would still be mostly SVG, just >augmented with extra stuff. The Inkscape-specific extension would be >like a warning -- "This is not plain vanilla svg and may not render >correctly as such". Kinda like how .ai files are mostly just regular >.ps files, but if it doesn't look right in your .ps viewer, you know >you should try it in Illustrator. > >--bb

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Raster capabilities and non SVG-ness
by Bill Baxter 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

On 4/13/07, Tony Vigil <tjvigil66@...12...> wrote: > > Florian, > > I'm completely with you regarding the benefits. I was actually replying to > what someone else said about Inkscape creating something other than true SVG > if raster editing was included. That was my comment. Apparently went to read the actual Summer of Code project proposal that I was referring to, so here it is: """ Inkscape was built purely as a vector editor – a GUI, you might say, for SVG. But the need has arisen for raster capabilities within the Inkscape application. Previous to this capability, the user would have to perform such raster post-production in a different application, such as the GIMP or Photoshop. Often this may not be anything more complicated than a punch/explosion effect or a windswept filter. This can be accomplished by integrating these effects, especially those provided by ImageMagick, directly into the Inkscape interface. The results will not be SVG, unfortunately, but they will be bitmaps, as the user desires. """ It wasn't my idea that raster capabilities would create something that's not SVG, it's right there in the project proposal. Clearly if you just apply transformations to a bitmap and save the result as a bitmap you can have something that's SVG, but I read the above as meaning something more like the filters will be similar to the blur tool. Applied on-the-fly to vector elements to create the effect. But maybe that's not what it meant. I'd also just like to comment that, though ImageMagick is certainly chock full of features, and is a nice command-line tool, I haven't had the best experiences using it as a library. So I'd encourage Christopher Brown to investigate alternatives. Probably more useful and flexible would be the ability to apply GIMP filters. --bb

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Applying transformation matrix.
by Xavier Snelgrove 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Thanks for all the replies, in the end I figured out what the problem was; the paths in question were in groups containing only one element (themselves) as such when I moved them it was transforming the GROUP, not the objects themselves. Xavier

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape-user Digest, Vol 11, Issue 23
by Tony Vigil 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Florian, I'm completely with you regarding the benefits. I was actually replying to what someone else said about Inkscape creating something other than true SVG if raster editing was included. Any addition to Inkscape that makes my design process easier would be very welcome. - Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Florian Ludwig First of all you dont need to fire up an additional program. Editing an image with an integrated editor would be much smother. You could see the complete context your raster images is used in and you dont have to reimport the image after changing it with an external program. I would also prefer if the functionality of using external editors would improve. For example on linux use inotify to get changes of linked images and reload them. If it would be possible to embed the gimp into inkscape it would be a really cool thing :) Or the other way around: have an svg as an layer within an gimp file. Greetings, Florian Ludwig

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Re: [Inkscape-user] PC crawling due to apparent complexity -- need tips
by Tony Vigil 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Jeff, I took a look at your file. WOW... what's with those crazy shapes made up of... even more crazy shapes? :~P Before you do your cloning, you need to simplify the two shapes. I've come up with 3 options that might suit your needs... 1)Simply redraw the outlines of your two shapes using a small number of nodes. 2)Export the two objects as images. Import the images. Run the Trace Bitmap feature. 3) Use the "Paint Bucket" feature on the existing objects. I ran this option on your two objects and the results were pretty good. One of these three options should work well for you. - Tony

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Re: [Inkscape-user] PC crawling due to apparent complexity -- need tips
by Charles Blaine 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

I'm not sure I can fully explain the chronology of how I "achieved" that effect (ha!). There is no good reason for it on my end. It is an artifact of working with OpenOffice Draw, a friend of mine using Illustrator (he did all of the bitmap tracing and exported an SVG for each of these strange shapes I am working with), and Inkscape. Can you tell me how to determine the # of paths in an SVG with Inkscape? If I know how to do that I can examine the SVGs he sent me and see if they are the problem. If they're fine, then the problem was some clueless butchery on my end and I will try again. Jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: bulia byak <buliabyak@...155...> To: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:46:42 PM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] PC crawling due to apparent complexity -- need tips On 4/12/07, Charles Blaine <kickslop@...12...> wrote: > http://www.kickflop.net/temp/inkscape-tiles-problem.svg Wow. Your originals look simple but are anything but. They have stroke converted to path and then broken into microscopic segments, each being a separate path. So one of the originals for example consists of 547 paths! I'm just curious, how you achieved this effect, and what for? Then, you're saying you're cloning them. But there are no clones in your image. Each object is just a copy. So you have 547 paths multiplied by the number of these copies in the circle. No wonder your file is 5Mb and Inkscape is getting slow on it :) -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php

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