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Re: [Inkscape-user] Google Summer of Code (raster functionality)
by Tony Vigil 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Why would built-in raster functionality create anything different than what you would get by doing your raster bits inside an external editor (i.e. GIMP) and importing the results into Inkscape? ----- Original Message ---- >> Raster Functionality in Inkscape >> by Christopher Brown, mentored by Theodore J. Gould > >I'm curious about this one because the writeup basically says this >will create things that aren't SVG. Is there a plan to make a new >file extension at some point? It would still be mostly SVG, just >augmented with extra stuff. The Inkscape-specific extension would be >like a warning -- "This is not plain vanilla svg and may not render >correctly as such". Kinda like how .ai files are mostly just regular >.ps files, but if it doesn't look right in your .ps viewer, you know >you should try it in Illustrator. > >--bb

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Raster capabilities and non SVG-ness
by Bill Baxter 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

On 4/13/07, Tony Vigil <tjvigil66@...12...> wrote: > > Florian, > > I'm completely with you regarding the benefits. I was actually replying to > what someone else said about Inkscape creating something other than true SVG > if raster editing was included. That was my comment. Apparently went to read the actual Summer of Code project proposal that I was referring to, so here it is: """ Inkscape was built purely as a vector editor – a GUI, you might say, for SVG. But the need has arisen for raster capabilities within the Inkscape application. Previous to this capability, the user would have to perform such raster post-production in a different application, such as the GIMP or Photoshop. Often this may not be anything more complicated than a punch/explosion effect or a windswept filter. This can be accomplished by integrating these effects, especially those provided by ImageMagick, directly into the Inkscape interface. The results will not be SVG, unfortunately, but they will be bitmaps, as the user desires. """ It wasn't my idea that raster capabilities would create something that's not SVG, it's right there in the project proposal. Clearly if you just apply transformations to a bitmap and save the result as a bitmap you can have something that's SVG, but I read the above as meaning something more like the filters will be similar to the blur tool. Applied on-the-fly to vector elements to create the effect. But maybe that's not what it meant. I'd also just like to comment that, though ImageMagick is certainly chock full of features, and is a nice command-line tool, I haven't had the best experiences using it as a library. So I'd encourage Christopher Brown to investigate alternatives. Probably more useful and flexible would be the ability to apply GIMP filters. --bb

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Applying transformation matrix.
by Xavier Snelgrove 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Thanks for all the replies, in the end I figured out what the problem was; the paths in question were in groups containing only one element (themselves) as such when I moved them it was transforming the GROUP, not the objects themselves. Xavier

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape-user Digest, Vol 11, Issue 23
by Tony Vigil 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Florian, I'm completely with you regarding the benefits. I was actually replying to what someone else said about Inkscape creating something other than true SVG if raster editing was included. Any addition to Inkscape that makes my design process easier would be very welcome. - Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Florian Ludwig First of all you dont need to fire up an additional program. Editing an image with an integrated editor would be much smother. You could see the complete context your raster images is used in and you dont have to reimport the image after changing it with an external program. I would also prefer if the functionality of using external editors would improve. For example on linux use inotify to get changes of linked images and reload them. If it would be possible to embed the gimp into inkscape it would be a really cool thing :) Or the other way around: have an svg as an layer within an gimp file. Greetings, Florian Ludwig

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Re: [Inkscape-user] PC crawling due to apparent complexity -- need tips
by Tony Vigil 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Jeff, I took a look at your file. WOW... what's with those crazy shapes made up of... even more crazy shapes? :~P Before you do your cloning, you need to simplify the two shapes. I've come up with 3 options that might suit your needs... 1)Simply redraw the outlines of your two shapes using a small number of nodes. 2)Export the two objects as images. Import the images. Run the Trace Bitmap feature. 3) Use the "Paint Bucket" feature on the existing objects. I ran this option on your two objects and the results were pretty good. One of these three options should work well for you. - Tony

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Re: [Inkscape-user] PC crawling due to apparent complexity -- need tips
by Charles Blaine 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

I'm not sure I can fully explain the chronology of how I "achieved" that effect (ha!). There is no good reason for it on my end. It is an artifact of working with OpenOffice Draw, a friend of mine using Illustrator (he did all of the bitmap tracing and exported an SVG for each of these strange shapes I am working with), and Inkscape. Can you tell me how to determine the # of paths in an SVG with Inkscape? If I know how to do that I can examine the SVGs he sent me and see if they are the problem. If they're fine, then the problem was some clueless butchery on my end and I will try again. Jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: bulia byak <buliabyak@...155...> To: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:46:42 PM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] PC crawling due to apparent complexity -- need tips On 4/12/07, Charles Blaine <kickslop@...12...> wrote: > http://www.kickflop.net/temp/inkscape-tiles-problem.svg Wow. Your originals look simple but are anything but. They have stroke converted to path and then broken into microscopic segments, each being a separate path. So one of the originals for example consists of 547 paths! I'm just curious, how you achieved this effect, and what for? Then, you're saying you're cloning them. But there are no clones in your image. Each object is just a copy. So you have 547 paths multiplied by the number of these copies in the circle. No wonder your file is 5Mb and Inkscape is getting slow on it :) -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php

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Re: [Inkscape-user] PC crawling due to apparent complexity -- need tips
by Charles Blaine 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Well, that was the problem. My butchery got them in that state. The SVGs provided by my friend are compact and simple. Thanks for the help! ----- Original Message ---- From: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...983...> To: Inkscape User Community <inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:27:00 PM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] PC crawling due to apparent complexity -- need tips On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 11:03:37AM -0700, Charles Blaine wrote: > I'm not sure I can fully explain the chronology of how I "achieved" that > effect (ha!). There is no good reason for it on my end. It is an artifact > of working with OpenOffice Draw, a friend of mine using Illustrator > (he did all of the bitmap tracing and exported an SVG for each of these > strange shapes I am working with), and Inkscape. > > Can you tell me how to determine the # of paths in an SVG with > Inkscape? If I know how to do that I can examine the SVGs he > sent me and see if they are the problem. If they're fine, then the > problem was some clueless butchery on my end and I will try > again. If you load the SVG in any text editor, you can get a pretty good idea by just looking at how many times <path... appears. Bryce ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL

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Google Summer of Code projects for Inkscape
by Bryce Harrington 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Google has just announced the project's for this year's summer of code: http://code.google.com/soc/inkscape/about.html Text Improvements by Gail Banaszkiewicz, mentored by Richard Hughes Native PDF import capability based on libpoppler by Miklos Erdelyi, mentored by Jon Cruz Live path effects in Inkscape by Johan Engelen, mentored by Aaron Spike 3D box tool for Inkscape by Maximilian Albert, mentored by bulia byak UI for SVG Filter Effects by Nicholas Bishop, mentored by MenTaLguY Raster Functionality in Inkscape by Christopher Brown, mentored by Theodore J. Gould Importing from, and Exporting to, a remote ccHost instance by Bruno Lu Gon-alves Dilly, mentored by Bryce Harrington Since the full text of the applications don't seem to be made public by google, could each of you post your proposal either to Inkscape's wiki or your own website, add a link to it from the Inkscape Summer of code wiki page, and report it here? I'm sure everyone is curious. :-) Thank you to all the students who applied, and congratulations to those whose applications were selected. We will all look forward to working with you over the summer! Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-user] [Inkscape-devel] NEW: touch selection
by Jon Phillips 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Agree, it sounds cool and is mega useful. Jon -----Original Message----- From: "kaver" <kaver@...45...> To: "bulia byak" <buliabyak@...155...>; "inkscape-devel" <inkscape-devel@...937...sts.sourceforge.net>; "Inkscape User Community" <inkscape-user@...1648...forge.net> Sent: 4/12/2007 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] [Inkscape-devel] NEW: touch selection I am happy with touch selection. It describes what it does and has already been used half a dozen times :-) Erik Erik Halbert kaver@...45... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

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Applying transformation matrix.
by Xavier Snelgrove 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Hey all, If I have an object that is currently transformed using a transformation matrix, and I want to remove the matrix, instead changing the co-ordinates of each point to be transformed is there some way to do that? The reason for this is that I made an image for Wikipedia ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:ClosedCylinderResonance.svg ) and it displays differently on their (and Firefox's) svg renderer than in Inkscape, specifically the sin waves appear thinner at the peaks than in the middle. I've worked out that this is due to the fact that they were stretched using a transformation matrix, and Firefox and Wikipedia apply that stretch to the strokes as well. Of course I could just redo the sine waves, but since my "Plot equation" effect isn't working it would be a hassle. Thanks Xavier

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