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Re: [Inkscape-user] Layers dropdown, was: Baffling UI
by Alan Horkan 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:13:34 +0100 > From: Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...1631...> > To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Inkscape-user] Layers dropdown, was: Baffling UI > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 12:43:00PM +0000, Alan Horkan wrote: > > Not the best point to step in, but I deleted most of this > thread to not get angry ;) Hopefully we can come to some conclusion without anyone getting too heated. Everyone is keepings polite but persistant and it isn't what you'd call a flamewar. > > Why not give it a try for a release, or for a while during the unstable > > time between releases? > With trying you mean removing the layer dropdown? Yes. > I use it all the time. I often have a number of layers, but work > in one layer for a while and don't switch layers that often. > If is elect something on another layer, I look down there to > see 'where' I am. The layer palette is only allowd to eat Good to know even if it backs up bulias point ;P FYI Adobe Photoshop includes this information in the titlebar of the form Filename @ Layername - Adobe Photoshop (roughly, I just saying from memory) If you are only using it for status and not making much use of the hiding or locking buttons do you think an indication in the title bar would be helpful? > So: > - Layer dropdown takes space that could be used for something > else. > - for what? this started because the status bar messages were unclear and abbreviated. one idea I've seen elsewhere is that clicking on the status bar pops a message dialog so that even if you have a small status bar you do have a way to see the full status bar message. I'll file a request if asked but I should nearly file one against GTK ... > - Dropdow could mislead new users to think its all there is. > - it's in the menus and the documentation. Users are new > to an app only once ... You'd think people are only beginners once but unfortunately many people stay there, I for example dont use Blender often enough to retain what little I have learnt and I'm effectively a beginner everytime. If you have worked in technical support you find many more users are like this when it comes to their computer. without really trying inkscape has been successful in attracting artistic users who want inkscape for their various kidns of crafts work it will help if things can be kept simple with one right way to do things and not too many assumptions made about inkscape users being experts at technical drawing and wanting many different possibilities to achieve the same end results, as it is the results that matter. > - My claim of different scenarios for drodown and palette > (see above) Hope you will consider my counter suggestion and perhaps further describe how and why you use the dropdown. Might be interesting to know if anyone actually uses the menus for switching layers. -- Alan

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scaling geometry but not Stroke
by Lucas Jordan 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

I find it hard to create a collection of shapes that are different sizes, yet have the same thickness of line. Currently I create shapes with the tools on the left, such as a circle. when I am done creating a circle I find that if I want to make it a little smaller (reduce diameter), the thickness of the line is also reduced when the circle is modified by the provided handles. Is there a UI feature I am missing that will allow me to change the size and shape of a object, without changing it's line size? thanks for fun app. I apprieciate any help! -Lucas

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Setting locale
by Michael Grosberg 28 Jan '07

28 Jan '07

I'm using Inkscape on a Windows XP with the locale set to hebrew (israel). I've had no problems until now but I just downloaded a development snapshot (the new gradient tool rock! and windows stay on top!) and now the entire UI has switched to a right-to-left UI with bits and pieces of hebrew stuck here and there. I remember GTK was supposed to respect a language setting in the enviroment variables - if you added LANG=en it would ignore the system setting on Gimp. But this didn't work for Inkscape when I tried it. So, is there any way to make inkscape ignore the windows set locale?

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26 Jan '07

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"union" for single shapes?
by Matthew Woehlke 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Is there a command to eliminate overlaps in paths (especially calligraphy paths), i.e. to create a path that is just the outside of a particular path? I can sort-of achieve this effect by drawing an overlapping path and unioning the two, but I would like to be able to do this without the extra 'helper' path. -- Mathew (sorry, .sig file is on the other computer)

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version `GCC_3.4' not found
by Karol Krenski 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hi, Just tried the new inkscape-0.45pre1.x86.package that is advertised on www.inkscape.org. I am getting these errors when trying to launch: [mimooh@...1459... ~]$ inkscape inkscape: /lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not found (required by inkscape) inkscape: /usr/bin/../lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by inkscape) The GCC_3.4 one seems to be fatal - inkscape won't launch. This is my configuration: [root@...1459... ~]# rpm -qa | grep gcc libgcc-3.3.6-4 gcc-dirs-1.0-2 gcc-3.3.6-4 gcc-c++-3.3.6-4 [root@...1459... ~]# rpm -ql libgcc /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 I would say I use a rather fresh distro (PLD Linux) and I just upgraded libgcc package. What is the problem then? Karol

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keeping document properties as default
by Albert Wagner 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

How can I save document properties rather than re-do them each time I start inkscape?

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Embed objects as links?
by Tim Holy 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

Hi, First, I'm a new and very impressed user of Inkscape. I'm no drawing application expert (far from it), but to me it seems that a lot of careful and creative thinking has gone into designing the user interface, and the result is very enabling. An issue has arisen that I bet has been asked before; if so, my apologies (I did search for it). My daughter and I are are using Inkscape to try drawing a new set of icons for an open-source educational game (Tuxmath). These icons contain a number of distinct objects (penguins, igloos) that can be mixed-and-matched, and the individual ingredients can change (the penguin can flap its wings, part of the igloo can melt, etc.) We're now to the stage where we're trying to combine these ingredients into whole icons; however, we're noticing that as we improve as artists we'd like to, for example, go back and fix up our igloo a bit more---but then we find ourselves making the same changes (or delete, copy, paste) in all the "derived" files that use the igloo + other ingredients. I'd like to find out if there's a way that these improvements can be propagated to all of our combined icons without having to manually copy-and-paste. Basically, is there a way to embed an object as a link? And then have future edits build from there? Thanks for taking the time to read and answer this, and, most importantly, for a terrific application! --Tim

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Text is lost after saving as odg
by Paul Smith 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

Dear All When I save the attached file to odg (OpenOffice drawing format), the text is lost. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paul

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error dz.po, compile ink.45 svn revision 13822.
by ValessioBrito 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

valessio@...2088...:~/Desenvolvimento/inkscape/inkscape-0.45$ svn update Na revisão 13822. valessio@...2088...:~/Desenvolvimento/inkscape/inkscape-0.45$ dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot . . . . . . make[3]: Entrando no diretório `/home/valessio/Desenvolvimento/inkscape/inkscape-0.45/builddir/po' cd .. \ && CONFIG_FILES=po/Makefile.in CONFIG_HEADERS= CONFIG_LINKS= \ /bin/sh ./config.status config.status: creating po/Makefile.in config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing intltool commands config.status: executing default-1 commands config.status: executing po/stamp-it commands make[3]: Saindo do diretório `/home/valessio/Desenvolvimento/inkscape/inkscape-0.45/builddir/po' make[3]: Entrando no diretório `/home/valessio/Desenvolvimento/inkscape/inkscape-0.45/builddir/po' file=`echo am | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file ../../po/am.po file=`echo az | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file ../../po/az.po file=`echo be | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file ../../po/be.po file=`echo bg | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file ../../po/bg.po file=`echo ca | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file ../../po/ca.po file=`echo cs | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file ../../po/cs.po file=`echo da | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file ../../po/da.po file=`echo de | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file ../../po/de.po file=`echo dz | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file ../../po/dz.po ../../po/dz.po:4865:2: parse error ../../po/dz.po:4865: palavra chave "mine" desconhecida ../../po/dz.po:4871:2: parse error ../../po/dz.po:4874: palavra chave "r13821" desconhecida ../../po/dz.po:4886:2: parse error ../../po/dz.po:4886: palavra chave "mine" desconhecida ../../po/dz.po:4891: palavra chave "r13821" desconhecida ../../po/dz.po:4895:2: parse error ../../po/dz.po:4895: palavra chave "mine" desconhecida ../../po/dz.po:4900: palavra chave "r13821" desconhecida ../../po/dz.po:4904:2: parse error ../../po/dz.po:4904: palavra chave "mine" desconhecida ../../po/dz.po:4909: palavra chave "r13821" desconhecida ../../po/dz.po:6925:2: parse error ../../po/dz.po:6925: palavra chave "mine" desconhecida ../../po/dz.po:6933:2: parse error ../../po/dz.po:6936:2: parse error ../../po/dz.po:6936: palavra chave "r13821" desconhecida /usr/bin/msgfmt: encontrados 18 erros fatais make[3]: ** [dz.gmo] Erro 1 make[3]: Saindo do diretório `/home/valessio/Desenvolvimento/inkscape/inkscape-0.45/builddir/po' make[2]: ** [all-recursive] Erro 1 make[2]: Saindo do diretório `/home/valessio/Desenvolvimento/inkscape/inkscape-0.45/builddir' make[1]: ** [all] Erro 2 make[1]: Saindo do diretório `/home/valessio/Desenvolvimento/inkscape/inkscape-0.45/builddir' make: ** [build] Erro 2 ---- Error in dz.po -- .ValessioBrito ://valessio.ul-jb.org/

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