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Please remove from mailing list
by Rod Taylor 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Could you please remove my name from the mailing list. Thanks.

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printing partially opaque objects
by David L 16 Jun '07

16 Jun '07

When I try to print objects with alpha values <255, they print as if alpha was 255. If I export them to pdf and then convert them to postscript using pdf2ps, they seem to print with the intended alpha value. I don't know if this is a printer driver problem or what. Clearly inkscape is exporting alpha information that can be used to print correctly (or else it wouldn't print correctly after converting to postscript). However, it's inconvenient to not be able to print directly from inkscape. Does anybody know what might be going on or how I can work around it in inkscape? Thanks, David _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! http://mobile.msn.com

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Re : Layers Dialog Mockup.
by Cedric Sagne 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

The mockup seems an excellent GUI feature perfectly adapted to what I also believe to be a problem of usability in Inkscape... wow I wish I could code I would start this moment. It is the first idea in a long time where so many people on the list are clearly on the same wavelength, and the implementation suggestion is simple and clever... hey! just like Inkscape itself! Cedric

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forum?
by Dave Niezabitowski 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

Are there any forums for support or is it only this mailing list. Mailing lists are sooooo hard to follow and messages are all over the place.

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Re: [Inkscape-user] How to add color to complex drawings
by microUgly 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

chacmool wrote: > > I have created a drawing of a dragon that consists obviously of multiple > line odd shapes etc. What is the best tool to use to fill the spaces that > I want with color? I am asking about a similar tool to a paint brush for > example which is found in Adobe Illustrator. > Look at that, I didn't even know that feature was in Illustrator. Ok, you can do the same in Inkscape if you use the latest development version (http://www.inkscape.org/download/?lang=en). You can see an example of the tool in use here - http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/index.php?lang=en -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-to-add-color-to-complex-drawings-tf3892474.html#a… Sent from the Inkscape - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Is this a bug?
by izak marais 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

I posted on launchpad; apparently this is no longer an issue with Inkscape 0.45 under Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon. --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.

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Is this a bug?
by izak marais 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Hi all Ok, I've a very strange Inkscape behaviour in Ubuntu 6.06, so I'm going to describe it in some detail: I've created a graph in python using matplotlib and saved it as an svg. However, when I open it in inkscape only the axes of the graph are displayed and not the data. Both the axes and the data points should be black. However, when I ungroup everything, I can see the bounding boxes of the data points, but I can't see the ellipses that make up of the data points (it's as if they have no fill). I can select one, try to fill it, shift it to the front, make sure the opacity is set, but it remains stubbornly invisible. If I select one it says "Ellipse 26" on the status bar, but it has no visible nodes when I try to edit it with the node tool. Now here's the weird part: If I open the same file with the windows version of Inkscape, everything is visible as it should be. Also if I export the file to EPS (using Ubuntu inkscape) the graph data points become visible again. Can anyone help me? Please! Or is this just a bug --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.

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Preventing spam on the Wiki
by Christoph Schäfer 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Hi, I noticed that the Inkscape Wiki has been flooded with spam recently. We had the same issue on the Scribus Wiki and found a simple, but effective way to handle it. We disabled the automatic creation of accounts and put a request mechanism in place. Everyone who wants an account has to ask for it via email to one of the SysOps or to the mailing list. We haven't had a single issue with spam since then. Maybe you could consider something similar for your interesting Wiki. Cheers Christoph

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Inkscape extensions window params
by PilarPP 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Hello, I would like to know if it's possible to add a button "apply" in extension window param. It'd be in .inx. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Inkscape-extensions-window-params-tf3876268.html#a109… Sent from the Inkscape - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Inkscape extensions: scroll in window params
by PilarPP 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Hello, I would like to know how add scroll to params window of extensions. Or put params in several columns. I think it would be add in .inx file, but I don't know the way to it works Pilar -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Inkscape-extensions%3A-scroll-in-window-params-tf3876… Sent from the Inkscape - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Troubles with object to pattern
by RoSourceforge 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Hi folk ! Sometimes I have got a problem copying/pasting objects filled with a pattern, into other Svg documents. a) I copy the object 1 of doc1, filled with the pattern A correspondig to the file alfa.png b) I paste the object 1 into doc2. In doc2 pattern A corresponds to the file beta.png c) the result is : I see object 1 filled with the pattern beta.png, (Inkscape 0.45) Ross

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stroke tracing CAD data (for black-and-white line illustration)?
by unknown＠example.com 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

I am working in the manufacturing industry. SolidWorks is part of the tools available for technical illustration. Therefore I´m very keen on finding a way of passing geometric CAD data (just line drawings) into Inkscape. Via DXF2SVG: I first tried to import a converted dxf. However the files are to big for Inkscape, it crashes when trying to import more around 500 objects. Via Tracing: I tried to get around this problem by tracing the technical line drawing. But then again it resulted in about 400 single objects and 3000 nodes, Inkscape gets very very slow or even crashes. Is it possible to generate a stroke tracing. Generating just a single stroke instead of multitudes of objects or surfaces? Would be intresting to see if there are more users out there who are trying to pass CAD Data into Inkscape and use it for black-and-white line illustrations. I´ve been watching this mailing list for a while and I do get the impression Inkscape is mainly developed for art work, webdesign etc.. However passing geometric CAD data into Inksape is probably not an issue for the Inkcape users. (Hopefully I am wrong there). Lindauer DORNIER GmbH Rickenbacher Str. 119 88129 Lindau / Germany Phone: +49 8382 703-0 Fax: +49 8382 703-4 15 webmaster@...2272... http://www.lindauerdornier.com Commercial Registry: HR Kempten Nr. B/1220 Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Prof. Dr. Dieter Feddersen, Managing Directors: Peter D. Dornier (CEO), Michael Ebeling, Dr. Andreas Rutz, Hans-Jürgen Schmidt (CFO)

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Command Line Options in 046 (--verb & --select)
by Mike Bee 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

I've been playing with the new --verb and --select command line options available in Inkscape 046. Very cool! However, I haven't been able to figure out how to control certain functions like "trace bitmap". I'd like to do the following operations in order at the command line: Import a bitmap file Select the imported bitmap Trace it using a custom threshold setting Delete the imported bitmap Select the resultant path Fit page to selection Save to Inkscape SVG So far, I've only been able to import the bitmap and select it using the following command line entry: "C:\(full path to inkscape)\inkscape.exe" --verb=FileImport "C:\(full path)\testimg.png" --verb=EditSelectAll verb=SelectionTrace Running this command causes the inkscape gui to start, import the png, and select it. However, it won't trace the image. All it does it open the "trace bitmap" dialog. Another weird thing is that the "select file to import" dialog remains open even after the image import is complete. Is that normal, and how do I close it via the command line? Any help would be greatly appreciated. BTW, I'm using the win32 build. Thanks, mb ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&…

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Debugging inkscape
by Bill Baxter 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

Let me back up with a more basic question: how do I debug inkscape? The build make by buildtool.exe doesn't seem to have debug symbols. fprintfs are scattered through the code making me thing those should work, but I found this INKSCAPE_DEBUG_LOG env var, but that doesn't seem to make fprintf stderr output work. Maybe I need to build inkscape as a console app? Where do I set that? Any hints?

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by jose' ventura 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

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CG tutorial done + can I help with documentation?
by Valerie VK 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Hello! I'm done with that tutorial I've mentioned a while ago. It's a multi-part anime CG tutorial, so it's not exactly destined to the most serious crowd, but ah well. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/57134905/ No Salamander sadly. Short of making the girl bald with a lizard tail, I have no idea how to incorporate a salamander into her design. Mammals are so much easier. :S Anyway, it's under Creative Commons license, so go ahead and improve on it if you want, I'll probably be too lazy to. Now that I'm done though, I might be able to help a bit with documentation. Anything in particular? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html

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Inkscape and CMYK
by John R. Culleton 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

I have praised Inkscape as an Illustrator alternative and some have responded that Inkscape has a problem with CMYK. One has suggested that CMYK items get converted to RGB on export or save. 1. are there such limitations? 2. Are there workarounds to preserve CMYK colors on save/export? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com

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inkscape vs. psfrag
by David von Stetten 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

Hello, I am trying to label some gnuplot-generated EPS files with inkscape, in order to then use them in LateX in combination with psfrag. Everything is fine, except that the psfrag anchors are destroyed upon exporting to EPS. Here is an example: http://mvl.chem.tu-berlin.de/people/stetten/inkscape/test_original.eps http://mvl.chem.tu-berlin.de/people/stetten/inkscape/test_inkscape_export.e… (Also, why is the image size and the (relative) size of the BBox changed upon export?) I realize the importance of the "export text as paths" checkbox, and while both settings produce different EPS files, none contains the psfrag labels. I tried with inkscape 0.44.1, 0.45.1, and 0.41 (on Debian). I found several reports on the web that the combination of EPS and inkscape and psfrag works perfectly well. Please help, what am I doing wrong?! Greetings, David

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Debugging inkscape on Windows XP
by D. Jones 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

How do you use the debugging for inkscape development versions on Windows XP SP2? I understand that I download the .dbz package and put it into the installation directory but what do I do after that? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/

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greyscale to sepia?
by John R. Culleton 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

Have a background image for a book cover that is grayscale. It resembles, and may have been taken from, an old engraving. I imported it from a jpg file. It would be nice to have it in sepia like an old time photo. Is there a way to tint it in Inkscape? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com

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Inkscape for Mac
by Victor Domingos 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

I have just tried MacPorts and I found an interesting thing. With MacPorts, Inkscape displays correctly the Portuguese localization. However, this version has a drawback in the fact that it has no support to drag-and-drop. With the official Inkscape.app, I am able to drag svg files into the inkscape icon in the Dock, and it open the file to me... Victor Domingos http://lojamac.com/blog

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Re: [Inkscape-user] greyscale to sepia?
by Tony Vigil 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

I tried something very similar a couple weeks ago and got a very decent effect. Here's what I did... 1) Import image 2) Create a sepia colored rectangle and move to the bottom 3) Duplicate the image and the rectangle 4) Change the new rectangle's color to white 5) Mask the white rectangle with the new image 6) Move the masked rectangle below the original image 7) Set the opacity of the original image to 75% In most cases, it would probably be much easier to just break out the image editor and do the work there. - Tony ----- Original Message ---- On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:35:35AM -0400, John R. Culleton wrote: > Have a background image for a book cover that is grayscale. It > resembles, and may have been taken from, an old engraving. > I imported it from a jpg file. > > It would be nice to have it in sepia like an old time photo. Is there > a way to tint it in Inkscape? Create two rectangles the same size as the image. Make one sepia coloured, put it behind the image, and then set the image as the rectangle's mask. Then make the other rectangle black and put it behind the first rectangle. I tested this briefly on a silhouette-against-sky image I had handy, and it seemed to work but I wasn't very happy with the result: it made the lights far too sepia-ish and the black too black, but you could probably get better results by tweaking the colours a bit. It seems like you're using the wrong tool for the job, though. Using one of the Gimp colour tools, or one of its scripts, would give you much more flexibility about adapting to the contrast in the input image and jiggling the range of colours in the output.

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The death of PyXML
by Aaron Spike 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

PyXML died a neglectful death a ways back now. I failed to notice. And I was too much in denial to listen to the many many kind individuals who tried to tell me. We've been relying on PyXML for the python extensions. Now we need to replace it. I'm sure anyone who has ever worked with extensions will be happier when it is gone. The major requirements I can think of are: - Unicode support - Excellent namespace handling - Excellent XPath support (more than just basic support, many XPath features are too useful to be without) - documentation for new extension devs - in distribution or easy to obtain anything else? If I was left to my own devices and I had to do something right now, I would start with LXML. (Not a big vote of confidence that the front page of the website is offline http://codespeak.net/lxml/ check the google cache :-)) LXML uses the ElementTree api as much as possible, this API is coming standard with python 2.5 so I expect people will be getting familiar with it. It is a wrapper around libxml2 so it has a lot of power behind the scenes (adds things like xpath and xslt support). I'm not sure how things sit with the easy to obtain issue, but there are binaries available for win32. Not sure about OSX. And everyone on linux compiles everything anyway. :-) Aaron Spike

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selection problem
by Georg P. Israel 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Dear All, it seems that I have from time to time the problem that I can't select my drawing objects anymore! Just for your information, I am using Inkscape Version 0.45.1 on M$ Windows XP. I can double click on them, but nothing gets selected. The only way to select them is by opening the XML tree viewer and selecting the item there. Does anybody know how to overcome this issue?? Best regards Georg P. Israel

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Re: [Inkscape-user] How to achieve a "reverse mask" function?
by Valerie VK 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

> I see how useful this would be, but I think you're out of luck because > this > behaviour is defined by the SVG standard, not Inkscape. ... oh. :'( Thanks! I guess I'll have to do things the hard way. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow

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Using Inkscape for webdesign
by Victor Domingos 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

What I really miss in Inkscape, in order to make it a great tool for webdesign, is an easy way to make a split bitmap, with custumized slices. Similar to what we can find in ImageReady or Fireworks. I believe that some Gimp builds also have a feature like that, called Web-o--tine, but in GIMP there seems to be a little flexibility in slice creation. Is there any feature like that in the current development roadmap for Inkscape? Victor Domingos http://lojamac.com/blog

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Printing a big SVG in a moosaic of pages
by Alberto Simões 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hi I have a big SVG (a big graph rendered by GraphViz) and I would like to print it. It doesn't fit an A4 or A3 page. I tried to convert the postscript generated by GraphViz to a PDF file, and I get it cropped because it doesn't fit the bigger page supported by GhostScript (A0). Thus, I would like to create a moosaic of A4 or A3 pages from inkscape. Inkscape loads the svg file quite well, and I can scale it to fit the paper I want, but there isn't a simple method (that I know) to fit the SVG file into, say, 3 A4 pages (one in top of the others). Is there any easy solution? Thank you Alberto -- Alberto Simões

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How to achieve a "reverse mask" function?
by Valerie VK 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Currently masks works like this: - white areas are left opaque - black and transparent ones become invisible - greys are in-between What -I- would like to achieve is the following: - white And transparent areas are left opaque - blacks are invisible - greys are in-between To achieve that effect with the current mask, I have to make a white object big enough to cover the whole object I want to work with. And this becomes cumbersome to work with because I either end up having to hide (cover) the whole object with the "mask" first (before applying) or on the contrary, move the mask underneath where it's harder to see and edit. In bitmap programs this isn't a problem because you can access a mask or quick mask mode separately and fill the whole thing up. You can't easily fill a whole layer with Inkscape though. Do the rest of you know of any work around? Is there some magic place where by-chance, I can just click a "Mask behavior: leave transparent areas opaque" option? Because that would be really handy. Possible applications: - making easy editable "holes" in objects, including textures for laces and such. - blurring edges at selective areas (and not the whole part). I want to try to achieve a vector fur effect this way. I've seen a few CGs where fur effect looks like vector in most parts, but some selected tips are blurred. If this option really doesn't exist, are there any plans to implement that "Mask behavior: leave transparent areas opaque" option I've mentioned? Pretty please? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433

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Node edit tool for multiple objects
by Stathis Sideris 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hello all, I think that one of the very few things that Illustrator does better in comparison to Inkscape is that fact that its node edit tool allows editing the nodes of multiple objects at the same time. I think the procedure is: select multiple objects with object select tool, switch to node select tool, select nodes from separate objects, move. I do realise that doing a "Combine" on the objects would allow me to edit their nodes in such a way, but this involves 2 extra steps (Combine/Break apart). If this functionality is added to the node edit tool, it may make sense to have a switch (checkbox) to determine whether to limit it to one object editing or multi-object editing. Or a related theme, there is no way to scale/rotate a subset of the nodes of an object in Inkscape (rather than rotating/editing the whole object). Does anyone else think that those things would be useful? Stathis

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Re: [Inkscape-user] forum?
by Valerie VK 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Aye caramba! We're still on about this forum thing? Well... here are my two cents: Mailing list: It has the advantage of grouping everything together, but it's bad at fostering the "artistic" side because of its limited multimedia support and besides, lots of people find mailing lists to be hard to navigate. And bland. XD Wiki: I'm under the impression that wikis would not be the best for fostering an "interactive" community, but I admit I'm biased because I rarely use wikis except to find information (and not to interact with other people). Povray: I have even Less idea how Povray's community works. After the first hour spent over the manual (time needed to get how to get a sphere in Povray), I had decided that it was easier to draw people manually. XP Galleries: Opencanvas, as I've previously said, managed to get much exposure thanks to its art-based community, but this would not likely be appropriate for Inkscape. However, I think it would be nice if Open Clipart took on a more advanced gallery interface, a bit like Deviantart and co: Creative Common or not, someone who registers would be more likely to contribute if they were filling up "their" gallery (and can get feedback on top of that), and tagging would allow easing search and browsing. There could be entire downloadable "collections" too. On top of that, if it has a big "We recommend Inkscape" (or something in those lines) at the front, so much the better for Inkscape's visibility. No offense, but, I currently do not "get" Open Clipart's interface at all. XD In Deviantart and co by contrast, people browse and submit work practically without thinking. Blogs: Actually, I'd see a few advantages to a blog-based community. How many of you know how blog Communities work? Here's an example from the top of my head: http://community.livejournal.com/icon_tutorial If an Inkscape livejournal community were to be made for example, it'd present the following advantages: - it's as cohesive as mailing lists, really. You only have to check one place. - and for peple who already have their livejournal accounts, when they join, the community posts appear on their "Friends" list, so it's even more accessible to them - there are quite a number of people with their own blogs etc, so they'd be able to join "easily" - people can post questions, tutorials, thoughts and tips much like on the mailing list, albeit with a slightly nicer interface that allows images and such - either the users or a moderator would help "tag" the entries for easy future reference from the "Favorites" section or the "Tutorials (compilation)" section or the "Frequently asked questions" section, all easily accesible from the left bar - the only thing really is that unlike forums, threads can't be "bumped", but with the tagging it shouldn't be much problem. Besides, how often do "very old" topics resurface, anyway? Also, you'd have to revisit a topic to see any new comments, unless you're the one who started it. In practice though, it's not That much a hassle. - some people might also feel a certain reluctance to creating an account, but it's not much more work than signing up to a mailing list or to a forum, really. It's basically a mailing list's cohesiveness with many of a forum's presentation. I'm subscribed to both a few forums and a few livejournal communities of the similar categories, and livejournal communities (I admit, I know little of Blogspot and others) are indeed more cohesive and intimate so to say. Forums are better when the size of the community goes over the top, but blogs can be a good starter. Of course, I'm biased towards something I'm familiar with, but maybe the above explains a few things. In the future, I'd also suggest a more advanced "tutorial" section on the main page (and not just accessible through the wiki. I mean... geez). There are two things I think Inkscape does Very right in regards to documentation: 1. Include a number of tutorials on the basics in the very releases. Those are lifesavers. 2. Include screenshots. I give the Inkscape screenshots section 2 thumbs up because they're Really good at showing off Inkscape's capabilities. Where the suggested tutorial section is concerned, I'd propose advanced tutorials with a nice big-enough preview for advanced styles as well as simpler ones. Categories would include: - make a photorealistic car - make a photorealistic person - various other art styles - advanced technical blueprints (or whatever) - setting up a whole set of icons for webpage usage - the works This would be similar to what Corel Painter does, which is the great thing it does with Its documentation. Painter's documentation basically gives advanced painting tutorials by advanced artists. Inkscape may or may not have such advanced artists willing to contribute for now, but these will be good for exposure when available because when a user browses the webpage, as soon as they see these they'd go "This is what Inkscape is capable of. This is what -I- may be capable of, if I follow these tutorials." Sold! If the examples offered in the tutorials are good enough, the "wow" effect would be as nearly great as an advanced user gallery section with favourites etc. A section underneath would provide smaller tips for various effects. Anyway, those are my 2 cents. ___________________________________________________________________________________ You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html

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Students' art
by Victor Domingos 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

Hi! I'm sharing with you some works made in Inkscape by my students (12-13 years old), in a Portuguese school. Those were made in a computer class, not in Arts. I hope you like... :-) Victor Domingos http://lojamac.com/blog

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Re: [Inkscape-user] feature idea
by Valerie VK 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

It'd actually be nice to have this feature request applied: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1012134&group_id=9… In the comments section, someone made this example: http://www.yattaweb.it/wrapper-example.png It would kind of be like the node sculpting feature, but with the selector interface, instead of having you select all the nodes. It seems like a neat thing to have to me. It would make perspective transforms much more intuitive, etc, etc. > Node sculpting kind of does that, yes, but it isn't quite the same. > > Here is a link to the Blender wiki to give some idea of what I am > talking about. > Admittedly, this is 3D, but it has the gist of the idea. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather

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Re: [Inkscape-user] forum?
by Valerie VK 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

> I think that the mailing lists are doing an excellent job on the > techinical side, but they arent generating a users community in terms > of art particularly well. I dont think that having all the devs > reading all the forum is necessary for a forum once we start talking > about it in the context of art rather than technical support. > I think if they were done right, and kept pretty focused, then forums > could be a good way to grow the creative aspect of the community, and > could help tie together and stimulate some of the excellent work that > has been going on with the youtube screencast tutorials etc. > Very much feel they should be something that compiments the mailing > list rather than replaces, as I'd see them performing a dfferent role. > > > > That's the main reason I'd prefer the "official" Inkscape forum to be > an interface to the mailing list over other approaches, even though I > certainly do appreciate the benefits of "real" forums (e.g. being able > to post inline images as examples, more robust threading, etc.). > > > > -mental > > Hmm. If the goal is to develop an effective artistic community, then that's a whole new direction, and one that Open Source hasn't been very good at in my opinion (I view Gimp for example as a failure in terms of developing a cohesive Artistic community. If you want to find One community where there are lots of advanced Gimp artists, you just won't find that. Some Gimp artists would try to gather, but it's never been handled well in my opinion). It's true though that an active, cohesive and visible (artist) community would increase the visibility of Inkscape. Some people like to gather and discuss about their favorite programs just as much as they like using the program (just like how there are fan communities of books etc). It's not easy to obtain though. Photoshop has active communities left and right but that's because it's the industry standard, and since the community is so active (both in producing artwork and in making tutorials), it leads to More people picking it up, much like a viral effect. By contrast, Procreate Painter is also a powerful painting tool, but fewer people pick it up because most people use Photoshop and that's where all the tips and tutorials are. That said, I'm personally neutral on the issue of developing an artistic community for Inkscape. Inkscape can be used for casual art (and the online CG population happens to be quite large - see the size of Deviantart), but it's mostly (?) targeted at productive tasks such as icon or web layout creations, either for personal use or for work. And those people don't need as much of a marketing effect (at least... I don't think so?), because they might pick it up for work might pick it up just because it works fine and is free. It's productive issue. By contrast, casual artists of the Deviantart type for the example, flock towards the program that seems to give the biggest number of pretty results (even if they can't achieve them themselves XD ). If people are still curious though, here's an interesting non-forum community example I know of: a Japanese program known as Opencanvas (which, contrary to its name, is not open source). It started years ago as a free (as in "free beer") version, and subsequent versions had to be paid for, while the free one was no longer offered. Even then, however, it managed to retain a highly dedicated community. You can find it here: http://www.portalgraphics.net/en/ (English main page) http://www.portalgraphics.net/ja/ (Japanese main page, more developed) http://www.portalgraphics.net/oc/en/ (English version of the community page) No, I don't want Inkscape to mimick it (at all :S ). I just think it's an interesting case study. Opencanvas is actually a relatively simple program "that works". One interesting feature (that I don't want in Inkscape though :S ) is the "recording" of "events": basically for any finished work you can playback the whole process. Also interesting is the ability to automatically upload artworks (each process-playbackable) to its community page with just a few commands, where they can be judged and voted on. >From a user point of view: the user is curious as to the capabilities of the program, he goes to the community page, he immediately sees the "best" recent artworks made by the program, said artwork can be downloaded for the user to playback its whole drawing process. Also located on the community page are a number of art tutorials (strange, I can't find them anymore, ah well). The user says "wow" and gets the program for himself. Again, I am not advocating anything like that for Inkscape. I don't think it's possible, either. :S But it's an interesting and unconventional case study on artistic communities. Opencanvas as a result has become Very well known in Japan, and is even being adopted elsewhere. I admit, even I bought it at first (then practically never used it XD ). Oh by the way, can someone tell me just how Do you reply in a way that the message ends in the right thread in the mailing list archive? :S ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

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Re: [Inkscape-user] forum?
by gri3f on 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

Valerie VK wrote: > No, I don't want Inkscape to mimick it (at all :S ). I just think it's an > interesting case study. Opencanvas is actually a relatively simple program > "that works". One interesting feature (that I don't want in Inkscape > though :S ) is the "recording" of "events": basically for any finished > work you can playback the whole process. Also interesting is the ability > to automatically upload artworks (each process-playbackable) to its > community page with just a few commands, where they can be judged and > voted on. Don't be surprised if you see event recording and playback in Inkscape someday. Mental and a few others have been building the necessary infrastructure to support this and a few other uses. Aaron Spike is this going to be something like the "action" on photoshop? where you can record series of process. and applied the same process onto different object? gri3fon ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow

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Inkscape 0.45 text dialogue
by Claus Cyrny 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

Hi, after selecting some text & selecting the 'text and fonts' dialogue in the menu, my newly installed Inkscape 0.45 (autopakage; Ubuntu "Breezy"; xorg) freezes. Did anyone else experience this, and is there some kind of workaround for this? I have to admit that my PC is very slow (350 MHz). TIA, Claus -- Home Page - http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/ [in English] graf-o-matic 2.0 - http://grafomatic01.twoday.net/ [in German]

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There is a forum interface to this mailing list.
by MenTaLguY 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

Not to discourage all the Inkscape forums people have been starting, but since it seems to get missed a lot, there's a forum interface to this very mailing list: http://inkscape-forum.andreas-s.net/forum/8 (I posted this message using it.) -mental -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape-user Digest, Vol 12, Issue 62
by Tony Vigil 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

Elwin, Not exactly. You can run SwishMax just fine via CrossOver (Wine) in Linux. SwishMax is only $99.00, which is quite a bit less than the $$$ price tag for Adobe's Flash. - Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Elwin Estle <chrysalis_reborn@...12...> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Draw a web site using only Inkscape Yes, but isn't content creation for Flash pretty much tied to either Windows or a Mac (no linux...unless you want to jump through a buncha hoops), and the $$$ for buying Flash from Macromedia?

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Inkscape Crashing
by Aaron Elmquist 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

Whenever I start working with an object that contains 500+ nodes inkscape will crash and does not perform an autosave. I also experience the same issue when I do a rapid succession of undos from the keyboard. Is this a known bug? I'm running 0.45.1 on windows xp with 660 MB of memory. Generally, don't have anything else open beside Firefox.

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Linux VM
by Benjamin Huot 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

This is a great idea to ease development of Linux applications for other platforms. It is like Java but the VM is Linux based and it is open source. http://www.openlina.com/

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Inkscape splash screen (question)
by Claus Cyrny 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

Hi, I just installed Inkscape 0.45 as an autopackage. Wow! Congrats!!! This is really so amazing for me, to see the development of Inkscape over the last years! One question: I would like to write a post on Inkscape 0.45 in my blog. May I post a scaled-down version of the splash screen there (of course with appropriate copyright remark)? Claus -- Home Page - http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/ [in English] graf-o-matic 2.0 - http://grafomatic01.twoday.net/ [in German]

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custom extension
by Stéphane ANCELOT 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

Hi , I would like to know, if it is possible to setup new custom icons in inkscape in order to call custom python extension ? and how ? Best Regards Steph

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Positioning guides in inkscape
by D. Jones 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

Is there more than one way to position guides in Inkscape? I know that I can drag them and then see where their position and then move again to desired position. But I was wondering is there a way to just say position guide say 50% of horizontal or vertical without having to just keep dragging and positioning until I get it right. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

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Re: On Forums
by Valerie VK 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

> Two things... > > First, it sounds that there are some strong feelings on both sides here > - for having more forums as well as for keeping things unified. While > passion can be good, please let's try to ensure discussions remain > civil and polite. I'm sure with friendly discussion, good compromises > can be found on this topic. > > Second, regarding forums, this topic comes up from time to time. Our > official position has been if someone wishes to set up and maintain an > independent forum, it's cool by us. However, we've been down this road > a few times and there's been some good observations made in this and > past threads: > > * It's better for the community as a whole to have just a few > forums, since it consolidates the knowledge to one place. > > * As a project, Inkscape is open to setting up an official > http://forums.inkscape.org site, but we'd need volunteers to be > committed to setting up and maintaining it on an ongoing basis. > We'd also be open to hosting it on the same machine as > inkscape.org, PROVIDED that the selected forum software is a) > available in Gentoo, and b) is reasonably free from security > issues. > > * Some people prefer mailing lists, others prefer forums. There are > some mailing-list-to-forum gateways that some people find adequate, > but others don't. There are a lot of different opinions on which > is the best forum software to use. Thus, obviously our choices are > to either have a lot of different forums, none of which are very > heavily used, or a small number of forums (perhaps just one) that > are heavily used but that some proportion of people dislike. > > * While open to having forums, most of the currently active Inkscape > contributors are okay with mailing lists. Thus, if we as a > community are to have an Inkscape forum beyond the mailing lists, > and if we want it to be an official central unified forum, the > effort is going to need to be driven by the larger Inkscape > community. In other words, what we need are some new folks to join > in on this challenge, get it all organized, and help maintain it > going forward. > > Bryce Now that's an answer! May I suggest changing the "Mailing-list" section name on the main page to "Mailing lists and forums" and adding at the top of the page something in the lines of the following? "You can currently access the contents of the mailing list in forum format through [insert the url of that forum interface. I forgot what it is]. We currently do not have plans for a separate "official" forum. If you have any questions on this, please read the following: [insert link to the above]." Provide an answer people can easily see and find, and maybe they'll stop asking. :) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

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Inkscape and FontForge
by Jeffrey Brent McBeth 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

So, I spent last night figuring out how to make fonts using Inkscape, there have been several messages on this before, so they probably know this already. Fontforge does things in terms of sub-em units. Traditionally, TrueType fonts are 1024/2048/4096 sub-em units, and when FontForge reads SVG, it uses the pixel as one sub-em unit. Since I was creating a mono-spaced font with 4096 sub-em units, I created a canvas that was 4096 pixels high, and my fixed width wide. I placed guides at the baseline, x-height, and capital height to allow easy repeatable placement of the letters. From that point on it was easy copying from my source file, saving the individual glyph and importing it to FontForge. As far as things in Inkscape go, one thing stung me several times. I expected Center on Drawing to remove the current selected objects from consideration prior to computing the center. I can't imagine why you would want any other behavior? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hofstadter's Law states: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Inkscape for bitmap editing
by Claus Cyrny 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

Hi all, I don't know if anyone has tried this, yet, but I just starting using Inkscape as a bitmap (!) editor. The main reason for this was the task to isolate a (bitmap) object against its background. I've e basically used the Gimp until now, but my main problem was aliasing (or bad anti-aliasing) at the edges of the object(s). Now I discovered that if the new background is just one color, Inkscape can be of tremendous help. Particularly the splines are amazingly easy to use, and if I am using the proper zoom factor, the results are way better than when using the Gimp. (I guess this technique is basically called "vector painting", and a few years ago there was an app from the now defunct company 'discreet' called 'paint*', which did just that, but 'paint*' was much more high-end than Inkscape, and you could even animate the splines.) In addition, due to the incredible ease of use of Inkscape, the work flow is really a breeze! ;-) I can pan using the middle mouse button, maybe zoom in or out using '+' or '-', draw, pan again, and so forth. Greetings, Claus -- Home Page - http://home.arcor.de/ccyrny/ [in English] graf-o-matic 2.0 - http://grafomatic01.twoday.net/ [in German]

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Re: Inkscape a giant killer !
by Valerie VK 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

> I have worked as a proffessional Graphic Artist for 30 years and > specialize in illustration. > I also run my own Sublimation printing and embroidery business as well > as teaching and writing. > I have used both Illustrator and Corel Draw since their introduction and > have taught them both and written published training manuals on all the > major desktop publishing packages. I have been a big supporter of The > Gimp and have written a book that has been published on that too.I am > very impressed with Inkscape and the approach that has been taken to > user ergonomics. > I am now using Inkscape professionally and actually prefer to use it > over all other packages for many illustration tasks. > The programmers should be very proud of what they have done because I > regard Inkscape as a superior Illustration package to Illustrator and > equal if not better than Corel Draw for many Illustration tasks. In > particular the ease of use and control over the drawing tools is > fantastic. I have timed myself over specific illustration tasks (Like > illustrating a racing car for instance). I can work considerably faster > in Inkscape. This relates directly to productivity. I think the design > team at Adobe should take a good look at Inkscape AND ACTUALLY DO > SOMETHING ABOUT THE TRAGIC ERGONOMICS of their so called industry > standard program. Far more professionals use Corel Draw for serious > illustration work than people think, they just don't tell anyone because > of that Mac - Illustrator, Photoshop, Quark express standard in the > industry rubbish. This has far more to do with the conservative nature > of Graphic designers and the inability of training organizations and > tertiary institutions t > o provide alternative training. IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR SHEER > LAZINESS. I constantly monitor and test new programs and will provide > training and support for any one of them that proves to be useful. > SCRIBUS, THE GIMP and INKSCAPE have at last provided a serious working > solution for desktop publishers. Linux is at last a viable alternative > to the Mac or Windows. (Not that these programs don't work well on the > Mac or Windows). > And all this for free !!!!!!!!! > I do a lot of consultancy work for printing organisations and will be > pushing Inkscape and it relative merits extensively. > I will also provide support and training to any of the organizations I > train for or deal with. > WELL DONE INKSCAPE!!!!!! Wow, that's quite a background. :) I had never used Illustrator before, and the first time I tried out Inkscape several years back, I couldn't figure it out (that and... it kept crashing. It was a long time ago XD ). I've only rediscovered Inkscape recently, and damn I'm also impressed now. I must admit I'm impressed to hear that it's faster to illustrate a racing car in Inkscape than in most commercial softwares. XD Just out of curiosity, what features in Corel Draw do you think are missing in Inkscape? I'm not a programmer, but it'd be interesting to hear the opinion of a professional. :) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/

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Inkscape for bitmap editing
by Tony Vigil 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

Claus, Is Discreet Paint the same thing as Satori Paint? http://www.satoripaint.com/ I've never used Discreet or Satori Paint, but my google search for "Discreet Paint" came up with some hits for "Satori Paint" as well. It seems to do what you describe, including the spline animation. Same product maybe? - Tony

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Inkscape a giant killer !
by Rod Taylor 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

I have worked as a proffessional Graphic Artist for 30 years and specialize in illustration. I also run my own Sublimation printing and embroidery business as well as teaching and writing. I have used both Illustrator and Corel Draw since their introduction and have taught them both and written published training manuals on all the major desktop publishing packages. I have been a big supporter of The Gimp and have written a book that has been published on that too.I am very impressed with Inkscape and the approach that has been taken to user ergonomics. I am now using Inkscape professionally and actually prefer to use it over all other packages for many illustration tasks. The programmers should be very proud of what they have done because I regard Inkscape as a superior Illustration package to Illustrator and equal if not better than Corel Draw for many Illustration tasks. In particular the ease of use and control over the drawing tools is fantastic. I have timed myself over specific illustration tasks (Like illustrating a racing car for instance). I can work considerably faster in Inkscape. This relates directly to productivity. I think the design team at Adobe should take a good look at Inkscape AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE TRAGIC ERGONOMICS of their so called industry standard program. Far more professionals use Corel Draw for serious illustration work than people think, they just don't tell anyone because of that Mac - Illustrator, Photoshop, Quark express standard in the industry rubbish. This has far more to do with the conservative nature of Graphic designers and the inability of training organizations and tertiary institutions to provide alternative training. IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR SHEER LAZINESS. I constantly monitor and test new programs and will provide training and support for any one of them that proves to be useful. SCRIBUS, THE GIMP and INKSCAPE have at last provided a serious working solution for desktop publishers. Linux is at last a viable alternative to the Mac or Windows. (Not that these programs don't work well on the Mac or Windows). And all this for free !!!!!!!!! I do a lot of consultancy work for printing organisations and will be pushing Inkscape and it relative merits extensively. I will also provide support and training to any of the organizations I train for or deal with. WELL DONE INKSCAPE!!!!!!

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Howto build flash tutorials.
by John R. Culleton 31 May '07

31 May '07

I am fascinated by the Inkscape Flash tutorials. I would like to know in general at least: 1. Can these be created using Linux? 2. If so, what (extra) hardware is required? 3. What software is required? 4. Where is the howto on this process (if any)? -- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com

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Image attachments
by Stathis Sideris 31 May '07

31 May '07

Hello everyone, I just wanted to know what the policy is for attaching images to emails to this list. Are we allowed to attach images under a certain size, or not at all? I have a suggestion for a GUI enhancement and I have prepared a mock-up to explain it and hopefully get some useful feedback from here. Thanks, Stathis

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