July 2018 - Inkscape Translators

Re: [Inkscape-translator] Forking Inkscape on gitlab to work on translations
by Maren Hachmann 28 Jul '18

28 Jul '18

Am 25.07.2018 um 21:47 schrieb Yaron Shahrabani: > Yeah, I wasn't super thrilled about crowdin but they have a nice git > integration, the problem is that they are limiting the number of strings > for free projects so I gave up. > > I'm now experimenting with Zanata, I've uploaded Hebrew and German to > the same project (I can give you permissions) with 3 versions (0.91, > 0,92 and master), the infrastructure is pretty cool and not very > automatic, no git integration and pretty slow (much slower than weblate) > but it's open source and funded by Fedora. - Aha, that sounds interesting. Yes, it would be cool if I could take a look. Is there any git integration planned? I see there's a script for it in their official repos: https://github.com/zanata/repo-sync Do you know what would be needed to make it work, and what it would do?... As you've seen both Weblate and Zanata, what would you say, how do they compare feature-wise? Maren > The other options are Transifex etc., I can't think of any other worthy > project for this task… > > Kind regards, > YaronShahrabani > > <DevOps - Hebrew translator> > > > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:28 PM Maren Hachmann <maren@...325... > <mailto:maren@...325...>> wrote: > > Hi Yaron, > > welcome back! > > And thanks for exploring Crowdin. > > What do you see as their advantages? > I've taken a look at their website, and all I could find was a > proprietary, hosted program, with free plans for open source projects on > request :-( > > They don't appear to be open source, as far as I could find. > > This looks like it could be a quick-set-up option for interim solutions > for small teams outside of the official Inkscape project, but if it's > meant to be official, it would need to be open source. > > Have you also had a look at other translation web interfaces recently? > It's hard to stay up-to-date, we need more eyes :) > > This is what I found out about Weblate: > > I must admit that the first setup is pretty slow. Filling the database > took 20 minutes for 6 languages out of 90, then I had to break off, it > was getting too late, will try again another day, and maybe not with the > full Inkscape repo, but with inkscape-docs. > > They added a lot of control options and also translation memory and > multiple machine translation options since I last had a look. > The translation interface could be more straightforward (the menus - and > especially getting back to where I came from - were confusing). > The functionality seems to be just fine. > It allows discussions, comments, screenshot uploads (you told me about > that previously, but I couldn't take a look then). > Will need to do some more testing when I get my Hackfest Laptop from > Tuxedo (they are going to lend it to me for that time, and are a sponsor > of Kielux). > > Do you have any other systems to suggest for testing? > > Maren > > > > Am 25.07.2018 um 09:55 schrieb Yaron Shahrabani: > > Hey there, I'm sorry I faded away, I got really hooked up at work. > > > > Anyways, I've tried implementing Crowdin, less overhead, can be easily > > managed (as long as we have only a file or 2), returns back to > > repository, if there are scripts that manage your current Github repo > > (syncing etc.) I can probably use it to create my own setup and > connect > > it to Crowdin, I've tried it before with Gitlab but it was too > much code > > and the repository was closed. > > > > We can play around with my repository and if it works we'll move > it over > > to your repository, I can take ownership if needed, I'm already > doing it > > for several different projects. > > YaronShahrabani > > > > <DevOps - Hebrew translator> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:02 AM Maren Hachmann > <maren@...325... <mailto:maren@...325...> > > <mailto:maren@...325... <mailto:maren@...325...>>> > wrote: > > > > Am 23.07.2018 um 19:35 schrieb Bryce Harrington: > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 06:17:34PM +0200, Firas Hanife wrote: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> I'm the current Italian translator for Inkscape. In the last > > years I worked > > >> alone on the translations, but now I have been contacted by > some > > users that > > >> would like to contribute to the translation work. > > >> > > >> I created a fork on gitlab for Inkscape: > > >> https://gitlab.com/FirasH/inkscape > > >> > > >> and for Inkscape documentation: > > >> https://gitlab.com/FirasH/documentation > > >> > > >> but I don't know how to configure my fork to do the following: > > >> 1) keep it up to date with master and 0.92.x except for the > > translation > > >> files > > >> > > >> I added the original repo as mirrored, but as soon as I > push a commit > > >> request I get an error due to mismatch between my fork and the > > original one > > >> (mirrored). > > > > > > Do your work on a branch off your forked version, and that > should > > avoid > > > that I think. Setting it up as a mirror should work ok; > I've done > > this > > > in other projects. > > > > > > However, I don't think this is a typical workflow that > translators > > use, > > > so hopefully they can share some other approaches that might > work > > better > > > for you. For code development, many people craft their > branch off the > > > main Inkscape repo rather than off their own mirror; this > tends to be > > > simpler to set up, and (I think?) easier to send merge > requests from. > > > But again the translation team can probably give you more > practical > > > advice for your particular need. > > > > Hi Firas, > > > > great that you found some support for helping with Italian > (does it have > > to do with someone from the English Inkscape forums asking on the > > Italian Inkscape forums? I remember suggesting it, but haven't > heard if > > there were any reactions.)! > > > > For German, we have an even more manual setup, see > > https://github.com/Ede123/inkscape-localization . The > repository only > > contains our own po files and not much else - that's why it also > > requires a lot of manual work. > > > > I think one of the reasons for having it in a separate repo > was that > > then we can discuss (in German) without annoying devs with it > (they > > probably already get a headache from all my posts...). > > > > Some time ago, Yaron suggested using Weblate, but then we were > in need > > of someone who would want to be responsible, and discussion > subsided. As > > it's django-based, I was just playing around with it a bit > this evening > > locally. It seems a bit slow, from their demo page (and > locally, too), > > but I'll play with it a bit more. Maybe we can some day set up an > > instance of it on one of the virtual hosts on cloudscale, and > have it > > automatically push translation changes to a branch on gitlab. > > > > Maren > > > > > > > > > Bryce > > > > > >> 2) keep the "names" of the people who contributed to my fork in > > the commits > > >> (that I will review, then create a merge request) > > >> > > >> Thanks in advance, > > >> Firas > > > > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Inkscape-translator mailing list > > >> Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-translator mailing list > > > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-translator mailing list > > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net> > > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net>> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > > >

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Translate in zh_CN
by Qian Cai 25 Jul '18

25 Jul '18

Hi there, I’d like to translate in zh_CN. I have already requested a membership for the team, Username: qian Email: qian@...411... I used to be a translator for Gimp. Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [Inkscape-translator] Forking Inkscape on gitlab to work on translations
by Maren Hachmann 25 Jul '18

25 Jul '18

Hi Yaron, welcome back! And thanks for exploring Crowdin. What do you see as their advantages? I've taken a look at their website, and all I could find was a proprietary, hosted program, with free plans for open source projects on request :-( They don't appear to be open source, as far as I could find. This looks like it could be a quick-set-up option for interim solutions for small teams outside of the official Inkscape project, but if it's meant to be official, it would need to be open source. Have you also had a look at other translation web interfaces recently? It's hard to stay up-to-date, we need more eyes :) This is what I found out about Weblate: I must admit that the first setup is pretty slow. Filling the database took 20 minutes for 6 languages out of 90, then I had to break off, it was getting too late, will try again another day, and maybe not with the full Inkscape repo, but with inkscape-docs. They added a lot of control options and also translation memory and multiple machine translation options since I last had a look. The translation interface could be more straightforward (the menus - and especially getting back to where I came from - were confusing). The functionality seems to be just fine. It allows discussions, comments, screenshot uploads (you told me about that previously, but I couldn't take a look then). Will need to do some more testing when I get my Hackfest Laptop from Tuxedo (they are going to lend it to me for that time, and are a sponsor of Kielux). Do you have any other systems to suggest for testing? Maren Am 25.07.2018 um 09:55 schrieb Yaron Shahrabani: > Hey there, I'm sorry I faded away, I got really hooked up at work. > > Anyways, I've tried implementing Crowdin, less overhead, can be easily > managed (as long as we have only a file or 2), returns back to > repository, if there are scripts that manage your current Github repo > (syncing etc.) I can probably use it to create my own setup and connect > it to Crowdin, I've tried it before with Gitlab but it was too much code > and the repository was closed. > > We can play around with my repository and if it works we'll move it over > to your repository, I can take ownership if needed, I'm already doing it > for several different projects. > YaronShahrabani > > <DevOps - Hebrew translator> > > > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:02 AM Maren Hachmann <maren@...325... > <mailto:maren@...325...>> wrote: > > Am 23.07.2018 um 19:35 schrieb Bryce Harrington: > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 06:17:34PM +0200, Firas Hanife wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm the current Italian translator for Inkscape. In the last > years I worked > >> alone on the translations, but now I have been contacted by some > users that > >> would like to contribute to the translation work. > >> > >> I created a fork on gitlab for Inkscape: > >> https://gitlab.com/FirasH/inkscape > >> > >> and for Inkscape documentation: > >> https://gitlab.com/FirasH/documentation > >> > >> but I don't know how to configure my fork to do the following: > >> 1) keep it up to date with master and 0.92.x except for the > translation > >> files > >> > >> I added the original repo as mirrored, but as soon as I push a commit > >> request I get an error due to mismatch between my fork and the > original one > >> (mirrored). > > > > Do your work on a branch off your forked version, and that should > avoid > > that I think. Setting it up as a mirror should work ok; I've done > this > > in other projects. > > > > However, I don't think this is a typical workflow that translators > use, > > so hopefully they can share some other approaches that might work > better > > for you. For code development, many people craft their branch off the > > main Inkscape repo rather than off their own mirror; this tends to be > > simpler to set up, and (I think?) easier to send merge requests from. > > But again the translation team can probably give you more practical > > advice for your particular need. > > Hi Firas, > > great that you found some support for helping with Italian (does it have > to do with someone from the English Inkscape forums asking on the > Italian Inkscape forums? I remember suggesting it, but haven't heard if > there were any reactions.)! > > For German, we have an even more manual setup, see > https://github.com/Ede123/inkscape-localization . The repository only > contains our own po files and not much else - that's why it also > requires a lot of manual work. > > I think one of the reasons for having it in a separate repo was that > then we can discuss (in German) without annoying devs with it (they > probably already get a headache from all my posts...). > > Some time ago, Yaron suggested using Weblate, but then we were in need > of someone who would want to be responsible, and discussion subsided. As > it's django-based, I was just playing around with it a bit this evening > locally. It seems a bit slow, from their demo page (and locally, too), > but I'll play with it a bit more. Maybe we can some day set up an > instance of it on one of the virtual hosts on cloudscale, and have it > automatically push translation changes to a branch on gitlab. > > Maren > > > > > Bryce > > > >> 2) keep the "names" of the people who contributed to my fork in > the commits > >> (that I will review, then create a merge request) > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> Firas > > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Inkscape-translator mailing list > >> Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-translator mailing list > > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-translator mailing list > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > <mailto:Inkscape-translator@lists.sourceforge.net> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator >

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Forking Inkscape on gitlab to work on translations
by Firas Hanife 25 Jul '18

25 Jul '18

Hello, I'm the current Italian translator for Inkscape. In the last years I worked alone on the translations, but now I have been contacted by some users that would like to contribute to the translation work. I created a fork on gitlab for Inkscape: https://gitlab.com/FirasH/inkscape and for Inkscape documentation: https://gitlab.com/FirasH/documentation but I don't know how to configure my fork to do the following: 1) keep it up to date with master and 0.92.x except for the translation files I added the original repo as mirrored, but as soon as I push a commit request I get an error due to mismatch between my fork and the original one (mirrored). 2) keep the "names" of the people who contributed to my fork in the commits (that I will review, then create a merge request) Thanks in advance, Firas

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Website: Boston Hackfest news article online
by Maren Hachmann 17 Jul '18

17 Jul '18

Hi everyone, Ryan has published the article about our hacker's meeting in Boston! It's available on the website from here: https://inkscape.org/en/news/2018/05/22/2018-boston-inkscape-hackfest/ Maybe this would be a great thing to start with for our most recent members? Let me know what you think, Jiajun and Artur! Finlay, would you have time to help with the German translation? I'm a bit busy at the moment and could use your help. Thank you, and happy translating, Maren

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Arabic months
by Abdelhak Sidi Ali Mebarek 04 Jul '18

04 Jul '18

Hi, After a (very) long time, i will try to contribute, this time hopefully more efficiently. I was looking at the Arabic po file of Inkscape, and found months names i didn't understood. A little googling helped me understand that these were Mesopotamia names, and that the most used ones were those used in Egypt and Sudan (these are very close to Maghreb countries too). I want to make the switch, but i thought that sending this email before was important, maybe the use of Mesopotamia names was on purpose. Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months BR, -- *Abdelhak Sidi Ali Mebarek* +213-656-302-859 Oran, Algeria

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