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Ambiguous terminology in German translations of page border and margin
by Mohammed Chelouti 14 Aug '24

14 Aug '24

Hi everyone, I don't know if I should bring this issue up on Gitlab or here. But I think this mailing list is more appropriate. I've been trying out 1.4 beta 2 and stumbled over a rather unfortunate German translation. In the advanced snapping menu, both terms "pager borders" and "page margins" are translated to "Seitenränder". Given that they both use the same icon, the whole UX is a rather confusing. I didn't want to change the translation in just that menu and call it a day. Instead, I want to open a discussion on changing the terminology of borders and margins to clearly disambiguate them in German. Some examples for new terms: Margin: Seitenrand, Seitenabstand, Seitenrahmen, Innerer Seitenrand Border: Seitengrenze/Seitenbegrenzung, Seitenkante, Blattrand (would introduce a new concept "Blatt" which does not really exist in Inkscape, I think) I don't love any of them, but this is also just a jumping-off point. Cheers, Mohammed

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Re: Inkscape 1.4 - Dutch translation
by Maren Hachmann 14 Aug '24

14 Aug '24

Hi Stephan, thanks for your questions! The mailing list is active and not deprecated (as you can see from my replies :) ). The reasoning behind asking for you to put your specific translation questions into the chat is that in the chat, you will most likely get help more quickly, and there won't be dozens of people getting an email for it. Thanks for letting us know about the inconsistency on the website, it's fixed now. Please do keep telling us when you encounter similar issues! As for the drastic changes, honestly, I have no concrete suggestion, but I appreciate you giving thought to potential side effects. I only have some ideas to consider: * Are there many books and frequently used instructions about Inkscape in Dutch that would get outdated all of a sudden? * Maybe a good middle way would be to address the worst things first, and then improve the rest over time? There is a lot of work to do anyway for Dutch. Not sure that really helps, but I hope you'll enjoy working on translating Inkscape to Dutch. Kind Regards Maren Am 13.08.24 um 08:44 schrieb Stephan Paternotte: > Hello Maren, > > Thank you for your response including guidelines. > > 1. I have written Kris who'se email address is in the PO file I'd > pulled from the repo. Let's see if/when he responds. > 2. I've joined the chat channel. Is the Inkscape Translators mailing > list -- inkscape-translator(a)lists.inkscape.org depricated? > 3. I did pull the nl.po from the repository at first and I will be > starting anew with the one > from https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/Interface_translation. Too bad > that the instructions > from https://inkscape.org/contribute/translations/ are pointing in > different directions. Maybe someone ought to update that page. > > As said I have done Dutch translations for a lot of other FOSS projects > and I must say that that I've already spotted a few strings that are > translated in a - let's say - extraordinary fasion, quite unlike the > wording that is being used in other apps or even OS-es. > My intention would be to correct these existing Dutch translations > according to industry standards. That could potentially put off existing > Dutch Inkscape users as their familiar wording will change. What would > you say to this? > > Kind regards, > > Stephan Paternotte > Amsterdam > Nederland > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > E: stephan(a)paternottes.net > > (Verzonden met Vivaldi Mail. Download Vivaldi gratis op vivaldi.com) > > > Op dinsdag 13 augustus 2024 00:42:06 (+02:00) schreef Maren Hachmann: > > > Hi Stephan, > > > > welcome! > > > > It looks like the last time someone worked on the Dutch translation > > files seemed to have been in 2021 [1], and I haven't seen any Dutch > > contributors working on translations around recently. > > > > You could still try to email Kris, who was the last translator of the po > > file (mail address in po file). > > > > Otherwise, you can join us in the translators' chat [2] to find people > > with other native languages who can help out. > > > > To get the most recent po file(s), please follow instructions in our > > Wiki [3] (do not take the one directly from the repository, it is not > > up-to-date). > > > > Looking forward to your contributions! > > > > Maren > > > > > > [1] > > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/commits/1.4.x/po/nl.po?ref_type=heads > > > > [2] https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_translation > > > > [3] https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/Interface_translation > > > > Am 12.08.24 um 20:23 schrieb Stephan Paternotte: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'd like to contribute to Inkscape 1.4 by completing and improving the > > > Dutch language translation. > > > I have quite some experience with translating all sorts of FOSS > apps and > > > I am wondering if there are active Dutch translators who can introduce > > > me into the workings overhere and with whom I can cooperate? > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape Translators mailing list -- > inkscape-translator(a)lists.inkscape.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > inkscape-translator-leave(a)lists.inkscape.org > >

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Inkscape 1.4 - Dutch translation
by Stephan Paternotte 12 Aug '24

12 Aug '24

Hi, I'd like to contribute to Inkscape 1.4 by completing and improving the Dutch language translation. I have quite some experience with translating all sorts of FOSS apps and I am wondering if there are active Dutch translators who can introduce me into the workings overhere and with whom I can cooperate? Kind regards, -- Stephan Paternotte Amsterdam Nederland

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Inkscape 1.4 beta2 available for testing!
by Maren Hachmann 02 Aug '24

02 Aug '24

Inkscape 1.4 beta2 =================== Inkscape 1.4 beta2 is now available for testing for all three supported operating systems (Linux, macOS, Windows)! Being a pre-release, this version is not intended for production use, but to help us smooth out any issues that should not show up in the actual release this summer. You can download it from: https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.4beta2/ New Features ------------ When testing, please try out the major upcoming features, such as: * Filter Gallery: it has never been so easy to find the best filter for your needs! This new dialog features previews, categories and search. * Modular grids & improved axonometric grids: set the grid angle by ratio for isometric designs and use modular grids to plan layouts and make icons! * Swatches dialog and palette file handling improved: quick access to dialog layout controls, search for colors, and open different palette file formats! * Unified font browser preview: when activated in the preferences, use it to quickly browse through your font collection. Try it out and give your feedback! * Customizable handles: Power users with CSS knowledge can now customize the styling and basic shape of all the handles! * Fast image clipping with the Shape Builder: raster graphics can now be clipped into multiple sections using the Shape Builder. * There's even more: new templates for folding booklets, a new icon theme, additional options in Ruler and Taper Stroke LPE, preview in Spray tool, many new command line options, updated translations and many bug fixes. See the release notes draft for more information: https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.4 What's new compared to 1.4. beta? --------------------------------- Compared to the first beta release, the second beta contains: * A number of new strings: Strings not meant for translation were removed, some translator comments have been updated, and new strings were created. If you're a translator, please revise your .po files. * Unified Font Browser updates: The "All fonts" label is now hidden, a new "Font Scaling Factor" slider is added to avoid font clipping. and the settings are now in the Interface > Window category, font filtering works better. * Build fixes: The extensions and lib2geom submodules now point to newer commits to fix build errors, building with Poppler newer than 24.05.0 now works, and the libsoup dependency is removed. * Dash icon theme: A new icon theme is included in this beta release. * PDF export fixes: PDF exports now only contains items visible on the page, and anchor (link) tags now have more accurate click areas. * Help menu update: The Help menu is updated to categorize the links and tutorials better. * New About Screen integrated: The contest winning image by Inkonic is now part of the release. * Other features and bugfixes: A number of UI alignment issues are fixed, some crashes have been fixed, the Export dialog UI has been adjusted for clarity, various page-related bugs have been fixed, the Spray tool is now faster, and several translations have been updated. See the full list on GitLab. Report Bugs ----------- Use at your own risk, and please report all bugs you find in our Inbox bug tracker on GitLab ! If you find any issue with this beta version, please report it to https://inkscape.org/report ----------------------------- Join an Inkscape project team ----------------------------- Inkscape is always happy to welcome new contributors in various areas: code, docs, translation, UX, bug triaging, or even outreach! The main ways to get involved are listed on https://inkscape.org/contribute/ and you can get in touch with us on https://chat.inkscape.org/ Thanks to everyone involved in this beta release! -- The Inkscape team

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Second beta release of Inkscape 1.4 planned for August 1 / Online statistics available tomorrow
by Maren Hachmann 23 Jul '24

23 Jul '24

Hi all, if you would like to see your translations available for testing in the second beta release for Inkscape 1.4, you need to get this done within the next 7 days (rough estimate, no concrete info aside from 'it's going to be ready for download on August 1). You can find the translatable files at https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/1.4.x/download?job=tr… Up-to-date statistics (giving you an overview about the areas that need your help) will be available within 24 hours from now at: https://inkscape.org/doc/devel/translations-statistics-1.4.x.html Thanks everyone! Happy translating, Maren

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String freeze for 1.4
by Maren Hachmann 08 Jun '24

08 Jun '24

Hi everyone! The last big changes to strings for Inkscape 1.4 have just been merged (May 5 and today - I've done a big cleanup of hard-to-understand, unnecessary or broken strings, and we've worked on the Help menu). From now on, you can expect strings for 1.4.x to be mostly stable, and only small changes to be made, if any, before the release. There is one bug here: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inbox/-/issues/10324, which, if fixed, would potentially invalidate a huge number of tooltip / action strings. I made a note there to better postpone that fix to Inkscape 1.4.1. So, those of you who have already started translating, please update your po files - and everyone else, you can now grab the po files for 1.4.x and start the work! Latest ones from today available here: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/6808956360/artifacts/download Place to always find the latest ones for 1.4.x: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/pipelines?page=1&scope=all&ref=1.4.x (on the right, click on download icon, then choose translations archive) Thank you all very much and happy translating! Maren

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Hello I'm interested in translating the tutorials into Indonesian language
by mhasbisaputra5＠gmail.com 25 May '24

25 May '24

Hello my name is Muhammad Saputra. I'm very interested to contribute in Indonesian translation of the tutorials. I'm not sure what should I do first but I already have done some work on it (I could not contain myself to get started, sorry) like creating the fork and editing the id.po file in the basic tutorial. Is there anything I should know or do first before continuing the translation?

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Re: Translation statistics for 1.4.x branch online
by Maren Hachmann 19 May '24

19 May '24

Aaah! Thanks, Duarte. Yes, I only searched for 'pt' and 'Portuguese' in the MR list, that's why I didn't find it. I've looked into this a bit more, and it seems that the outdatedness is due to the actual Inkscape pipelines on Gitlab having been canceled a lot around that date, so there were no up-to-date translation artifacts available for the documentation statistics to be created from. I've triggered a pipeline re-run, and that worked insofar as it generated the correct statistics now - however, it wasn't able to push its results into the place where the inkscape.org webserver is looking for it. This is currently being looked into by René. I'll let you know when the website has the updated statistics available! Maren Am 18.05.24 um 18:42 schrieb Duarte Ramos: > Thanks for the update. > You may have missed merge request 6420 at > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/6420 > <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/6420> > > Probably flew under your radar, my fault for not properly mentioning the > Portuguese language in the title or description. > > > > On May 18, 2024 4:28:48 PM GMT+01:00, Maren Hachmann > <maren(a)goos-habermann.de> wrote: > > Hi Duarte, > > this is explicable, as the only MR that wasn't closed by you was > targeting master, not 1.4.x, so none of the translations made it to > 1.4.x. > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/?scope=all&state=all&… <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/?scope=all&state=all&…> > > You'd need to ask for a backport, or make another MR for 1.4.x. > > Maren > > Am 16.05.24 um 18:52 schrieb Duarte Ramos: > > Hey Maren > > In the translation statistics, it states Portuguese translations > for Inkscape 1.4 UI were last updated on 2021-10-10 > > > I submitted Ana's translation last week on May 7, before the > last update on May 11, to 100% completion for both 1.4 and > Master as shown below > > > Was this perhaps overlooked, or did we miss something on our > merge request? > > > > > > *One other question.* > * > * > There are two new translation strings that read something along > the lines of "/Space between path and major ruler mark, % of > mark length/" as illustrated in the screenshot below in red. > > > I believe these two are meant to actually show the plain > percentage symbol, and are not to be interpreted as placeholders > for some variable. > Is my interpretation correct, or are they really placeholders? > If so, PoEdit marks this as an error because it seems to be > interpreting them as an erroneously translated placeholder. Will > this cause issues down the line, or can we leave them as is? > > Thanks > > > On 12/05/2024 at 23:18, "Maren Hachmann" > <maren(a)goos-habermann.de> <mailto: > <mailto:><maren(a)goos-habermann.de>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > the translation statistics for 1.4.x are online now at > https://inkscape.org/doc/devel/translations-statistics-1.4.x.html <https://inkscape.org/doc/devel/translations-statistics-1.4.x.html> > > They represent the status on Sat, 11 May 2024 19:27:26. I > won't make any > promises when and how frequently I'll update them, but I > wanted to let > you all know that they are public now. > > Maren > > > >

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Inkscape News: Inkscape Summit 2024
by Maren Hachmann 19 May '24

19 May '24

Hi all, there's a new news article available on the website about the Rennes meeting: https://www.inkscape.org/news/2024/05/16/inkscape-summit-2024/ If you're on the website translation team, it would be nice if you could translate it into your language. Maren -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Inkscape News: Inkscape Summit 2024 Datum: Sun, 19 May 2024 15:02:26 -0000 Von: webmaster(a)inkscape.org An: maren(a)goos-habermann.de Inkscape Summit 2024 ------------------------------------- We had a great Inkscape Summit in Rennes, France. Our three-day meeting was hosted by long-time Inkscaper&#39;s Elisa and C&eacute;dric in their school of design Activ.design... ------------------------------------- Read More: http://www.inkscape.org/news/2024/05/16/inkscape-summit-2024/ All the best, Inkscape.org Website ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unsubscribe: If you do no longer want to receive these messages, you can edit your subscriptions and notification settings at http://www.inkscape.org/alerts/settings/.

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Can't create merge request due to GitLab error message
by Lucas Vieites 18 May '24

18 May '24

Hi all, I'm experiencing an issue when creating a merge request on the 1.4.x branch. I see this message "You can only create or edit files when you are on a branch" and the merge request is not created. I am following the steps in https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php?title=Interface_translation#7._Mak… Is anyone else having this issue? Thank you, and kind regards, -- *Lucas Vieites <https://namedrop.io/lucasvieites>* Blog @ codexion.com <https://blog.codexion.com/> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasvieites>

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