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Translation of Tutorials
by Stephan Paternotte 06 Oct '24

06 Oct '24

Triggered by an earlier message about updating tutorials, I managed to find the v1.4 Basic Tutorial, updated its Dutch translation and created an MR. (Fingers crossed for its approval) Now, the Basic Tutorial po's had recently been updated. This is not the case with the po's for the other tutorials. Should I go ahead updating the Dutch translations for the tutorials in the 1.4 branch, or should I hold off for now, because these require source updates as well? Stephan -- Stephan Paternotte Amsterdam Nederland

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Translating website page "Tutorials"
by Lucas Vieites 03 Oct '24

03 Oct '24

Hi there, I'm trying to translate the website page "Tutorials" to Spanish. I've been following the instructions on https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/WebSite#Adding_a_new_translation but I'm stuck on a blank page: https://inkscape.org/es/learn/tutorials/?edit&language=es that doesn't allow any text entry. Would you be able to help me find out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, -- *Lucas Vieites <https://namedrop.io/lucasvieites>* Blog @ codexion.com <https://blog.codexion.com/> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasvieites>

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What to do with "deleted" strings in the po file
by Lucas Vieites 30 Sep '24

30 Sep '24

Hi there, I just noticed that my es.po file has a whole bunch of "deleted" strings at the end of the file, these lines start with "#~". There are about 10.000 lines that were probably in an earlier version of Inkscape but are no longer used. Is it safe to delete those lines? In my case, it's 1/6 of the file, approx 300 KB. Kind regards, -- *Lucas Vieites <https://namedrop.io/lucasvieites>* Blog @ codexion.com <https://blog.codexion.com/> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasvieites>

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Last call for Inkscape 1.4 translations (Oct 7th)
by Marc Jeanmougin 28 Sep '24

28 Sep '24

Hi translators ! - The deadline for submitting translations going into Inkscape 1.4 is *Oct 7th*. - I made a new, (hopefully) easier, process to submit translations, which will not involve dealing with git and branches : One can now go to a specific gitlab thread, and attach the updated po file in there. An automated process will include it, and give you the translation statistics with the given file in the given branch. The links are : For *1.4.x* : https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/6715 For *master* : https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/6714 You can still use the previous process if you prefer (ie, make your own merge request), which would allow you to choose commit message and commit email (my system will use a noreply gitlab email instead) As previously, an update in a branch will not be automatically included in another branch, all branches are independent. The current translation statistics for all languages in 1.4.x (upcoming version) are currently as follows, please answer to this email if you think some translation update has been forgotten at some point (in a MR, an issue, an email thread, etc, which would have been overlooked). Thanks a lot everyone ! -- Mc ar: 36% (3879/10744) translated, 28% (3103) fuzzy, 26% (12696/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2022-05-21) as: 38% (4098/10744) translated, 40% (4323) fuzzy, 37% (17596/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2012-04-27) az: 1% (120/10744) translated, 52% (5593) fuzzy, 0% (202/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2006-11-05) be: 43% (4704/10744) translated, 7% (823) fuzzy, 41% (19924/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-09-13) bg: 25% (2743/10744) translated, 26% (2866) fuzzy, 22% (10489/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2021-02-04) bn: 0% (19/10744) translated, 31% (3345) fuzzy, 0% (25/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2007-02-10) bn_BD: 43% (4625/10744) translated, 37% (3982) fuzzy, 40% (19293/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2012-06-04) br: 53% (5717/10744) translated, 32% (3450) fuzzy, 49% (23621/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2014-12-07) brx: 35% (3842/10744) translated, 42% (4579) fuzzy, 35% (16919/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2011-12-09) ca: 83% (8997/10744) translated, 14% (1597) fuzzy, 86% (40859/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2023-08-23) ca@valencia: 61% (6580/10744) translated, 26% (2831) fuzzy, 58% (27621/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2019-10-30) cs: 72% (7792/10744) translated, 13% (1501) fuzzy, 64% (30402/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2023-06-17) da: 26% (2852/10744) translated, 17% (1859) fuzzy, 20% (9573/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2020-04-18) de: 99% (10712/10744) translated, 0% (21) fuzzy, 99% (47266/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-05-23) doi: 31% (3411/10744) translated, 44% (4746) fuzzy, 32% (15515/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2012-12-04) dz: 12% (1382/10744) translated, 53% (5708) fuzzy, 13% (6245/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2007-02-21) el: 66% (7172/10744) translated, 23% (2540) fuzzy, 64% (30542/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-09-05) en_AU: 7% (830/10744) translated, 54% (5897) fuzzy, 8% (3930/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2007-02-10) en_CA: 1% (128/10744) translated, 52% (5656) fuzzy, 0% (211/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2006-11-05) en_GB: 97% (10456/10744) translated, 1% (200) fuzzy, 96% (45883/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2023-11-08) eo: 19% (2139/10744) translated, 50% (5445) fuzzy, 20% (9773/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2008-08-04) es_MX: 1% (202/10744) translated, 55% (5995) fuzzy, 0% (446/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2006-11-05) es: 99% (10719/10744) translated, 0% (16) fuzzy, 99% (47297/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-07-19) et: 20% (2180/10744) translated, 47% (5121) fuzzy, 17% (8316/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2009-09-28) eu: 89% (9564/10744) translated, 8% (880) fuzzy, 88% (41927/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2023-10-29) fa: 13% (1406/10744) translated, 56% (6056) fuzzy, 8% (3908/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2022-01-28) fi: 29% (3177/10744) translated, 42% (4526) fuzzy, 27% (13056/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2019-09-20) fr: 94% (10144/10744) translated, 3% (425) fuzzy, 94% (44929/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2023-06-27) ga: 12% (1302/10744) translated, 38% (4109) fuzzy, 4% (2036/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2021-05-05) gl: 27% (3008/10744) translated, 41% (4407) fuzzy, 26% (12370/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2011-02-11) gu: 35% (3840/10744) translated, 42% (4559) fuzzy, 35% (16729/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2011-06-03) he: 47% (5105/10744) translated, 3% (331) fuzzy, 42% (20166/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-03-15) hi: 38% (4114/10744) translated, 40% (4308) fuzzy, 37% (17630/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2011-07-20) hr: 99% (10648/10744) translated, 0% (49) fuzzy, 99% (47201/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-07-31) hu: 99% (10654/10744) translated, 0% (49) fuzzy, 99% (47228/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-07-20) hy: 3% (365/10744) translated, 41% (4469) fuzzy, 2% (1059/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2008-04-30) id: 44% (4746/10744) translated, 36% (3964) fuzzy, 37% (17651/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2019-09-04) is: 88% (9479/10744) translated, 3% (417) fuzzy, 76% (36429/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2023-10-25) it: 98% (10625/10744) translated, 0% (49) fuzzy, 98% (46581/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-07-27) ja: 97% (10492/10744) translated, 1% (173) fuzzy, 97% (46113/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-05-08) km: 36% (3975/10744) translated, 41% (4490) fuzzy, 36% (17255/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2011-03-03) kn: 38% (4098/10744) translated, 40% (4323) fuzzy, 37% (17596/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-09-26) ko: 73% (7872/10744) translated, 18% (1989) fuzzy, 73% (34824/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-02-26) kok: 35% (3764/10744) translated, 41% (4511) fuzzy, 34% (16473/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-09-26) kok@latin: 32% (3446/10744) translated, 43% (4711) fuzzy, 33% (15775/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-09-26) ks@aran: 35% (3844/10744) translated, 42% (4577) fuzzy, 35% (16921/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-09-26) ks@deva: 31% (3411/10744) translated, 44% (4746) fuzzy, 32% (15515/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-09-26) lt: 13% (1442/10744) translated, 52% (5597) fuzzy, 13% (6349/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2009-08-12) lv: 61% (6605/10744) translated, 22% (2433) fuzzy, 57% (27138/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2019-12-14) mai: 38% (4098/10744) translated, 40% (4323) fuzzy, 37% (17596/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2011-05-13) mk: 0% (2/10744) translated, 50% (5448) fuzzy, 0% (1/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2006-11-05) ml: 35% (3837/10744) translated, 42% (4584) fuzzy, 35% (16845/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2012-03-17) mn: 1% (127/10744) translated, 52% (5596) fuzzy, 0% (210/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2006-11-05) mni: 35% (3853/10744) translated, 42% (4567) fuzzy, 35% (16930/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-03-11) mni@beng: 35% (3853/10744) translated, 42% (4567) fuzzy, 35% (16930/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-03-12) mr: 35% (3839/10744) translated, 42% (4582) fuzzy, 35% (16916/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2011-07-20) nb: 56% (6046/10744) translated, 28% (3038) fuzzy, 51% (24522/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2019-09-29) ne: 9% (1059/10744) translated, 54% (5899) fuzzy, 10% (4915/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2006-11-05) nl: 99% (10660/10744) translated, 0% (67) fuzzy, 99% (47090/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-09-08) nn: 8% (907/10744) translated, 55% (5924) fuzzy, 8% (4185/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2006-11-05) or: 38% (4098/10744) translated, 40% (4323) fuzzy, 37% (17596/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2011-09-20) pa: 4% (525/10744) translated, 52% (5667) fuzzy, 3% (1472/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2006-11-05) pl: 95% (10216/10744) translated, 3% (385) fuzzy, 94% (45034/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2023-06-14) pt_BR: 99% (10719/10744) translated, 0% (16) fuzzy, 99% (47297/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-06-25) pt: 99% (10721/10744) translated, 0% (12) fuzzy, 99% (47349/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-07-23) ro: 55% (5979/10744) translated, 3% (335) fuzzy, 46% (22039/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2023-07-14) ru: 94% (10142/10744) translated, 3% (425) fuzzy, 94% (44924/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-04-20) rw: 0% (58/10744) translated, 52% (5604) fuzzy, 0% (59/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2006-11-05) sa: 35% (3853/10744) translated, 42% (4568) fuzzy, 35% (16930/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-06-07) sat@deva: 31% (3410/10744) translated, 44% (4747) fuzzy, 32% (15498/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-06-25) sat: 31% (3410/10744) translated, 44% (4747) fuzzy, 32% (15498/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-07-27) sd: 35% (3834/10744) translated, 42% (4570) fuzzy, 35% (16723/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-09-07) sd@deva: 35% (3846/10744) translated, 42% (4575) fuzzy, 35% (16923/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2013-06-10) sk: 56% (6122/10744) translated, 28% (3053) fuzzy, 54% (25890/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2019-01-13) sl: 99% (10656/10744) translated, 0% (47) fuzzy, 99% (47234/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2024-08-19) sq: 0% (58/10744) translated, 44% (4731) fuzzy, 0% (61/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2006-11-05) sr@latin: 29% (3148/10744) translated, 45% (4903) fuzzy, 27% (12912/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2009-07-09) sr: 29% (3151/10744) translated, 45% (4900) fuzzy, 27% (12960/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2015-07-13) sv: 28% (3103/10744) translated, 48% (5246) fuzzy, 27% (13146/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2022-09-07) ta: 38% (4098/10744) translated, 40% (4323) fuzzy, 37% (17596/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2011-06-13) te: 3% (345/10744) translated, 28% (3014) fuzzy, 1% (529/47452) words translated (rev. date: 2010-07-04) th: 6% (657/10744) translated, 50% (5475) fuzzy, 4% (2340/47452) words 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Re: Inkscape 1.4 - Dutch translation
by Maren Hachmann 31 Aug '24

31 Aug '24

Hi Stephan, thanks for your work on the Dutch translations! However, we need you to submit your work in one of the official ways: There are three ways to submit a po file to the Inkscape project: https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/Translation_information#Submit_finished_work Development in Inkscape (as well as translation) happens in the open, we do not usually send attachments by private email to just a single contributor. This is useful for a couple reasons: 1. Other people can see that you are doing stuff and thank/congratulate/motivate you ;-) 2. Others who see it may feel motivated to contribute 3. The task you are giving to other contributors is 'open for taking' by anyone, not just by the one person you addressed (they may not have time). Please let us know in the chat when/if you encounter any obstacles. Thanks again, Maren Am 30.08.24 um 08:44 schrieb Stephan Paternotte: > Hallo Maren, > > These past weeks I've been working on and off trying to fill in the > blancs, checking the 'fuzzies' and adding consistency as I ran into > things. But the backlog on the Dutch translation of Inkscape is just ... > quite big ! > And now that summer hollidays are practically over I have to admit that > I bit off more than I can chew and fearing that a proper release of > Inkscape 1.4 may be imminent, I think it is time to make an interim > delivery. > > Please find attached that status of my ongoing work on the Dutch > translation for Inkscape 1.4. > It's not finished yet; there are still blancs and fuzzies, which will > show up in English. But A LOT has been done and verified by me within > the current beta release. > > I would kindly request that you upload this nl.po at the appropriate > place for me. > If you think I should do this myself (I do have a Github account for > such purposes) then please could you point me where I should do this? > > The coming weeks I will proceed with the ongoing translation work, be it > at a slower pace, as the Amsterdam youth will need to get going with > their maths again, and we'll see how things fit within release schedules > and such. > > Kind regards, > > Stephan Paternotte > Amsterdam > Nederland > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > E: stephan(a)paternottes.net > > (Verzonden met Vivaldi Mail. Download Vivaldi gratis op vivaldi.com) > > > Op dinsdag 13 augustus 2024 00:42:06 (+02:00) schreef Maren Hachmann: > > > Hi Stephan, > > > welcome! > > > It looks like the last time someone worked on the Dutch translation > > files seemed to have been in 2021 [1], and I haven't seen any Dutch > > contributors working on translations around recently. > > > You could still try to email Kris, who was the last translator of > the po > > file (mail address in po file). > > > Otherwise, you can join us in the translators' chat [2] to find > people > with other native languages who can help out. > > > To get the most recent po file(s), please follow instructions in > our > Wiki [3] (do not take the one directly from the repository, it is > not > up-to-date). > > > Looking forward to your contributions! > > > Maren > > > > [1] > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/commits/1.4.x/po/nl.po?ref_type=heads > > > > [2] https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_translation > > > [3] https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/Interface_translation > > > Am 12.08.24 um 20:23 schrieb Stephan Paternotte: > > > Hi, > > > > > I'd like to contribute to Inkscape 1.4 by completing and > improving the > > > Dutch language translation. > > > I have quite some experience with translating all sorts of FOSS > apps and > > I am wondering if there are active Dutch translators who > can introduce > > > me into the workings overhere and with whom I can cooperate? > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape Translators mailing list -- > inkscape-translator(a)lists.inkscape.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > inkscape-translator-leave(a)lists.inkscape.org > >

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ID 3360 - PAGE,[PAGE]
by Stephan Paternotte 15 Aug '24

15 Aug '24

I suspect that text between square brackets [*] is not to be translated E.g. ID 3360: PAGE,[PAGE] The first instance of PAGE is for me to translate, the second instance between [ ] is to be left untranslated. Is this correct? Kind regards, Stephan

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Several questions re. translation ID's
by Stephan Paternotte 15 Aug '24

15 Aug '24

How to translate ID 1626 "Namedview; Update=1, Replace=0" ? Possible typo in ID 1643 ? It says "Unhid selected items..." shoudn't this be "Unhide selected items..." ? Possible typo in ID 1644 ? "Unlocked selected items and their descendents." shouldn't this be "Unlock ..." ? ID 1804: Are the "possible anchors: ..." to be translated or left in English ? Stephan

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Ambiguous terminology in German translations of page border and margin
by Mohammed Chelouti 14 Aug '24

14 Aug '24

Hi everyone, I don't know if I should bring this issue up on Gitlab or here. But I think this mailing list is more appropriate. I've been trying out 1.4 beta 2 and stumbled over a rather unfortunate German translation. In the advanced snapping menu, both terms "pager borders" and "page margins" are translated to "Seitenränder". Given that they both use the same icon, the whole UX is a rather confusing. I didn't want to change the translation in just that menu and call it a day. Instead, I want to open a discussion on changing the terminology of borders and margins to clearly disambiguate them in German. Some examples for new terms: Margin: Seitenrand, Seitenabstand, Seitenrahmen, Innerer Seitenrand Border: Seitengrenze/Seitenbegrenzung, Seitenkante, Blattrand (would introduce a new concept "Blatt" which does not really exist in Inkscape, I think) I don't love any of them, but this is also just a jumping-off point. Cheers, Mohammed

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Re: Inkscape 1.4 - Dutch translation
by Maren Hachmann 14 Aug '24

14 Aug '24

Hi Stephan, thanks for your questions! The mailing list is active and not deprecated (as you can see from my replies :) ). The reasoning behind asking for you to put your specific translation questions into the chat is that in the chat, you will most likely get help more quickly, and there won't be dozens of people getting an email for it. Thanks for letting us know about the inconsistency on the website, it's fixed now. Please do keep telling us when you encounter similar issues! As for the drastic changes, honestly, I have no concrete suggestion, but I appreciate you giving thought to potential side effects. I only have some ideas to consider: * Are there many books and frequently used instructions about Inkscape in Dutch that would get outdated all of a sudden? * Maybe a good middle way would be to address the worst things first, and then improve the rest over time? There is a lot of work to do anyway for Dutch. Not sure that really helps, but I hope you'll enjoy working on translating Inkscape to Dutch. Kind Regards Maren Am 13.08.24 um 08:44 schrieb Stephan Paternotte: > Hello Maren, > > Thank you for your response including guidelines. > > 1. I have written Kris who'se email address is in the PO file I'd > pulled from the repo. Let's see if/when he responds. > 2. I've joined the chat channel. Is the Inkscape Translators mailing > list -- inkscape-translator(a)lists.inkscape.org depricated? > 3. I did pull the nl.po from the repository at first and I will be > starting anew with the one > from https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/Interface_translation. Too bad > that the instructions > from https://inkscape.org/contribute/translations/ are pointing in > different directions. Maybe someone ought to update that page. > > As said I have done Dutch translations for a lot of other FOSS projects > and I must say that that I've already spotted a few strings that are > translated in a - let's say - extraordinary fasion, quite unlike the > wording that is being used in other apps or even OS-es. > My intention would be to correct these existing Dutch translations > according to industry standards. That could potentially put off existing > Dutch Inkscape users as their familiar wording will change. What would > you say to this? > > Kind regards, > > Stephan Paternotte > Amsterdam > Nederland > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > E: stephan(a)paternottes.net > > (Verzonden met Vivaldi Mail. Download Vivaldi gratis op vivaldi.com) > > > Op dinsdag 13 augustus 2024 00:42:06 (+02:00) schreef Maren Hachmann: > > > Hi Stephan, > > > > welcome! > > > > It looks like the last time someone worked on the Dutch translation > > files seemed to have been in 2021 [1], and I haven't seen any Dutch > > contributors working on translations around recently. > > > > You could still try to email Kris, who was the last translator of the po > > file (mail address in po file). > > > > Otherwise, you can join us in the translators' chat [2] to find people > > with other native languages who can help out. > > > > To get the most recent po file(s), please follow instructions in our > > Wiki [3] (do not take the one directly from the repository, it is not > > up-to-date). > > > > Looking forward to your contributions! > > > > Maren > > > > > > [1] > > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/commits/1.4.x/po/nl.po?ref_type=heads > > > > [2] https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_translation > > > > [3] https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/Interface_translation > > > > Am 12.08.24 um 20:23 schrieb Stephan Paternotte: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'd like to contribute to Inkscape 1.4 by completing and improving the > > > Dutch language translation. > > > I have quite some experience with translating all sorts of FOSS > apps and > > > I am wondering if there are active Dutch translators who can introduce > > > me into the workings overhere and with whom I can cooperate? > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape Translators mailing list -- > inkscape-translator(a)lists.inkscape.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > inkscape-translator-leave(a)lists.inkscape.org > >

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Inkscape 1.4 - Dutch translation
by Stephan Paternotte 12 Aug '24

12 Aug '24

Hi, I'd like to contribute to Inkscape 1.4 by completing and improving the Dutch language translation. I have quite some experience with translating all sorts of FOSS apps and I am wondering if there are active Dutch translators who can introduce me into the workings overhere and with whom I can cooperate? Kind regards, -- Stephan Paternotte Amsterdam Nederland

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