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Updates on Beginner's Guide translation procedures
by Wen-Wei Kao 12 Oct '23

12 Oct '23

Hello, As per Moini's request a few weeks ago (on the inkscape-docs mailing list), I explored documentation of Sphinx and ReadTheDocs, and researched a bit on the current Inkscape translation procedure. It seems like a good idea to manage the translations of the Beginners' Guide the same way as the main application: - clone the repo - translate with local software - create a branch with new .po files - create merge requests I've successfully created .po files for the Beginner's Guide, but I'm having trouble generating them into translated HTML files. Does anyone here have experience with translating Sphinx books? I'm wondering if it's possible to push to a branch in the guide (or somewhere else, I'm no developer😅) so that someone could investigate. Also, are there any official procedures or software to manage coordination between translators of the same language, or is it up to individual coordinators? Asking because I plan to form a small local team (3-4 people) to help with the translations. (BTW I'm planning to create a branch and do translations first, to separate from updates to the main version, then afterwards pull in the changes and translate them.) Cheers, ltlnx

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Inkscape 1.3 released!
by Marc Jeanmougin 23 Jul '23

23 Jul '23

================ = Inkscape 1.3 = ================ Thanks to all the work from our community, we are proud to announce that Inkscape version 1.3 is now released. ---------------- You can find out about the new features at: https://inkscape.org/news/2023/07/23/inkscape-launches-version-13-focus-org… and download it for your platform on: https://inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.3/ then, if you want to support Inkscape, donate to the project at https://inkscape.org/support-us/ ---------------- Inkscape 1.3 is the latest major release of Inkscape, following more than one year of development after the 1.2 major release. The highlights of this release are: * Improved performance thanks to fully asynchronous, multithreaded rendering * Shape builder (NEW) - a new tool for building complex shapes (Boolean tool) * Improved On-Canvas Pattern Editing * Pattern Editor (NEW) * Page margins & bleed * Document Resources Dialog (NEW) * Return of Search, opacity & blend modes in Layers & Objects dialog and of an optional persistent snap bar * Font Collections (NEW) * Syntax highlighting in XML Editor * LPE dialog - Redesign * Better PDF import * Many crash & bug fixes We also introduced a long list of new features outlined in detail and illustrated at https://media.inkscape.org/media/doc/release_notes/1.3/Inkscape_1.3.html . ----------------------------- Join an Inkscape project team ----------------------------- Inkscape is always happy to welcome new contributors in various areas: code[1], translation[2], UX[3], testing and bug triaging[4], documentation[5] or even outreach[6]! The main ways to get involved are listed onhttps://inkscape.org/contribute/ The preferred points of contact are: [1]https://lists.inkscape.org/postorius/lists/inkscape-devel.lists.inkscape.… + https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel (or libera.chat/#inkscape-devel) [2]https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_translation [3]https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux [4]https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_testing [5]https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/documentation [6]https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_vectors A warm thanks to everyone involved in making this release possible! -- The Inkscape team

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Inkscape 1.3 string freeze! Submit your translations until July 14
by Maren Hachmann 14 Jul '23

14 Jul '23

Hi all! We are now in string freeze for Inkscape 1.3, which is due to be released around July 20th. You should now start to work on translating all those new strings. INSTRUCTIONS ------------ * Get the 1.3.x branch po file from https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/1.3.x/download?job=tr… * Notify people on this mailing list that you are working on it. If possible, please share a link to your in-progress file (e.g. if you work on a branch in your own Inkscape repository copy on GitLab), to invite collaboration. You can also reach out to other translators of your own language, to avoid that people translate the same strings. This could lead to developers not knowing which translation file to merge, and ultimately, to your work not arriving in Inkscape 1.3, if that cannot be resolved in time. * Translate it using your favorite translation software and keep your public copy updated. * To get it into Inkscape 1.3.x, either open a merge request to the 1.3.x branch or open a bug report at https://inkscape.org/report . * The latest date to submit your translation is July 14. It is much better, though, to aim for submitting at least one week before that final date, to have enough time to sort out any issues with your file, or with other people's work. * If you are not also translating for the master branch at the same time (the program 'Lokalize' would allow for that, for example), please ask developers to also add your changes to the master branch when you submit your work. ----------------- There's a lot of nice new stuff in Inkscape 1.3! See release notes draft for some context help: https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.3 If you have any questions about the meaning / context / place of appearance of one of the new strings, please ask in the chat at https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_translation (and if there's any info I forgot to mention here, please ask here or there) Happy translating! Regards Maren

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No translation platform?
by c.buhtz＠posteo.jp 09 Jul '23

09 Jul '23

Hello together, I'm new here and not a regular Inkscape user. I'm not primarily interested into translating Inkscape. But as member of the maintenance team of a FOSS software [1] I'm interested in sharing experience and opinions about translation and localization. Accidentally I recognized that Inkscape does not use a platform for translation / localization of its UI and content. Because of the age and size of your project I was suprissed about that fact. IMHO because of that it is hard for non-technical persons to contribute. Did you ever considered using a translation platform (e.g. Weblate or some of the known commercial platforms)? if so why did you decide against it? If you are interested I can share my experience with Weblate if you want. It is far away from perfect but does its job and is real free software. Kind Christian [1] -- <https://github.com/bit-team/backintime>

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Notice: small string updates in 1.3.x branch
by Maren Hachmann 04 Jul '23

04 Jul '23

Hi all! Marc has merged many of your translations to the 1.3.x branch today! Congrats and thank you to everyone who has contributed! Along with the translations, the merge also contained a few small string fixes (mainly a big bunch of paper formats that had been missing from translations, and disambiguations for otherwise untranslatable strings that referred to two different things at once. 54 new strings in all). You can get the updated file from https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/master/download?job=t… Have a great week! Maren

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Documentation repo ready for translation! / Translation status overview
by Maren Hachmann 02 Jul '23

02 Jul '23

Hi all! I've just used these last three beautiful summer days to ... update Inkscape tutorials and the keyboard shortcut file. (I'm so glad it's done now...) This means that your translation updates for tutorials, man page and keyboard shortcut files are now welcome in the documentation repository! The active branch there is: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/documentation/-/tree/1.3.x It has several subdirectories and several po(t) files: * https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/documentation/-/tree/1.3.x/keys * https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/documentation/-/tree/1.3.x/man * https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/documentation/-/tree/1.3.x/tutori… (subdirectories 'advanced' to 'tracing') Some screenshots in those folders also need an update - I have removed the outdated ones, so you can easily see whether you need to make a new one. So, if you have time (and maybe if your weather isn't quite as nice as ours here...), it would be helpful if you could tackle these items! --------------------- In a day or two, statistics about the current translation status of everything related to the 1.3.x branch will be available publicly from https://inkscape.org/doc/devel/translations-statistics-1.3.x.html This does not include any not-yet-merged MRs you made. --------------------- Kind Regards Maren

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Meaning of LPE - Live Path Effects
by Lucas Vieites 19 Jun '23

19 Jun '23

Hi there, today, while translating several sentences related to LPE, I ran into an issue that I had overlooked before. I have been translating "Live Path Effects" as something like "Effects for paths that are (a)live", but when using this in plural (in Spanish) it didn't make sense, so I wonder; what is "live" in these effects; the "path", or the "effect"? Neither the manuals <https://inkscape-manuals.readthedocs.io/en/latest/live-path-effects.html>, nor Tavmjong's book <http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Paths-LivePathEffects.html> made me none the wiser Who can shed some light on this conundrum? Thank you in advance, -- *Lucas Vieites <https://namedrop.io/lucasvieites>* Blog @ codexion.com <https://blog.codexion.com/> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasvieites>

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New merge request for es.po in the 1.3.x branch
by Lucas Vieites 19 Jun '23

19 Jun '23

Hi there, I just created https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/merge_requests/5420 for the es.po file. I added a comment to remind the devs to also update this file in the master branch. Thank you, -- *Lucas Vieites <https://namedrop.io/lucasvieites>* Blog @ codexion.com <https://blog.codexion.com/> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasvieites>

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Re: Website News: 1.3beta0 released! / String freeze in a few days
by Maren Hachmann 14 Jun '23

14 Jun '23

Hi José, thank you for your work on this! :) Maren Am 14.06.23 um 07:33 schrieb imagen imperio: > Hello Maren, > > Sorry for the delay, the spanish translation for the new article ( > http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e… <http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e…>) is done. > > Kind regards. > > José Quintanilla Ramírez > > > > > El mar, 30 may 2023 a las 17:07, Maren Hachmann > (<maren(a)goos-habermann.de <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de>>) escribió: > > Hi Translators, > > we've just released the beta for Inkscape 1.3, and also published a > news > article for it: > > http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e… <http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e…> > > If you are a website translator and have a little bit of time, please > help by translating the article to your language! > > -------------------------------- > > About translating for Inkscape 1.3: > > The bulk of the changes is now in, but string freeze will officially > only start in a few days (expected for next Monday). So if you'd > like to > start on translations, you can, but expect some smaller changes to > still > happen, that may invalidate (fuzzy-fy) some of your translations. > > Note that now two branches exist again, 'master' and '1.3.x'. Remember > to ask for your translations to be included in both, and to check > whether that has actually happened. > > I'll update links on the Wiki / translation statistics after the > official string freeze. > > Thanks everyone! > Maren > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape Translators mailing list -- > inkscape-translator(a)lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to > inkscape-translator-leave(a)lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org> >

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Re: Website News: 1.3beta0 released! / String freeze in a few days
by Maren Hachmann 05 Jun '23

05 Jun '23

I see. One other thing you could check: Maybe your translations that contain those words have only been added to the 1.2.x branch. Do you see a difference with the 1.2.x translation files? Maren Am 05.06.23 um 10:19 schrieb Lucas Vieites: > Hi there, > I'm attaching a screenshot of Poedit with the es.po file open. > In this image, you can see a couple of entries where context has been > added, as you mentioned in your previous message. Those are the two > entries at the top with the word "Symbol" in blue. All the other entries > have a 100% match in my TM, which consists basically of entries that > have been translated in previous versions. These are in orange because > they are marked as "fuzzy", but you can see that the highlighted string > "Color Mode" has a 100% match in the right pane, "Modo de color". > > inkscape_1.3_poedit.png > > I hope this helps. > > Thank you , and kind regards, > -- > *Lucas Vieites <https://namedrop.io/lucasvieites>* > Blog @ codexion.com <https://blog.codexion.com/> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasvieites> > > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 2:53 PM Maren Hachmann <maren(a)goos-habermann.de > <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de>> wrote: > > Hi Lucas, > > yeah, that looks like a lot. > > Do you have any concrete examples? That would make it easier to check. > > Note that even in the previously 100% translated German, there were > around 700 changed / new strings (and it looks correct to me). > > In many cases, a context has been added to help translators, which may > account for the 100% matches. > > We've done quite a bit of cleanup. I think it is probably correct, but > an example (or multiple) will help verify. > > Regards > Maren > > Am 04.06.23 um 09:07 schrieb Lucas Vieites: > > Hi Maren, > > The es.po file has too many fuzzy and new strings that I think > have > > already been translated. Many of these have a 100% match in my > > translation memory. > > The es.po file has 2000+ pending strings, which is ~20% of the > file. > > It feels like it's too much, even for a new "big number" release. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > -- > > Lucas Vieites > > lucasvieites(a)gmail.com <mailto:lucasvieites@gmail.com> > <mailto:lucasvieites@gmail.com <mailto:lucasvieites@gmail.com>> > > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2023, 15:09 Maren Hachmann > <maren(a)goos-habermann.de <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de> > > <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de > <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de>>> wrote: > > > > Hi Lucas, > > > > what makes you think the file isn't up-to-date? > > > > Maren > > > > Am 03.06.23 um 12:27 schrieb Lucas Vieites: > > > Hi there, > > > regarding the string freeze; any idea when we can start > > downloading > > > the correct /translations.zip/ file? Currently, the po > file for > > Spanish > > > dos not seem up to date. > > > I got it from > > > > > > https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/1.3.x/download?job=tr… <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/1.3.x/download?job=tr…> <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/1.3.x/download?job=tr… <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/1.3.x/download?job=tr…>> <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/1.3.x/download?job=tr… <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/1.3.x/download?job=tr…> <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/1.3.x/download?job=tr… <https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/jobs/artifacts/1.3.x/download?job=tr…>>> > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -- > > > *Lucas Vieites <https://namedrop.io/lucasvieites > <https://namedrop.io/lucasvieites> > > <https://namedrop.io/lucasvieites > <https://namedrop.io/lucasvieites>>>* > > > Blog @ codexion.com <http://codexion.com> > <http://codexion.com <http://codexion.com>> > > <https://blog.codexion.com/ <https://blog.codexion.com/> > <https://blog.codexion.com/ <https://blog.codexion.com/>>> > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasvieites > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasvieites> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasvieites > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasvieites>>> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 1:07 AM Maren Hachmann > > <maren(a)goos-habermann.de <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de> > <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de>> > > > <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de > <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de> > > <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de > <mailto:maren@goos-habermann.de>>>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Translators, > > > > > > we've just released the beta for Inkscape 1.3, and also > > published a > > > news > > > article for it: > > > > > > > > > http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e… <http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e…> <http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e… <http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e…>> <http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e… <http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e…> <http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e… <http://www.inkscape.org/news/2023/05/30/inkscape-reveals-tools-organizing-e…>>> > > > > > > If you are a website translator and have a little bit of > > time, please > > > help by translating the article to your language! > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > About translating for Inkscape 1.3: > > > > > > The bulk of the changes is now in, but string freeze will > > officially > > > only start in a few days (expected for next Monday). > So if you'd > > > like to > > > start on translations, you can, but expect some smaller > > changes to > > > still > > > happen, that may invalidate (fuzzy-fy) some of your > translations. > > > > > > Note that now two branches exist again, 'master' and > '1.3.x'. > > Remember > > > to ask for your translations to be included in both, > and to check > > > whether that has actually happened. > > > > > > I'll update links on the Wiki / translation statistics > after the > > > official string freeze. > > > > > > Thanks everyone! > > > Maren > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape Translators mailing list -- > > > inkscape-translator(a)lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org> > > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org>> > > > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org> > > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org>>> > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > inkscape-translator-leave(a)lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org> > > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org>> > > > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org> > > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org>>> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape Translators mailing list -- > > inkscape-translator(a)lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org> > > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org>> > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > inkscape-translator-leave(a)lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org> > > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape Translators mailing list -- > > inkscape-translator(a)lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org> > > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org>> > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > inkscape-translator-leave(a)lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org> > > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org>> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape Translators mailing list -- > inkscape-translator(a)lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator@lists.inkscape.org> > > To unsubscribe send an email to > inkscape-translator-leave(a)lists.inkscape.org > <mailto:inkscape-translator-leave@lists.inkscape.org> >

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