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[Fwd: [Inkscape-devel] Changes to .desktop file]
by Joshua A. Andler 19 Oct '09

19 Oct '09

Hey Translators, Would anyone be opposed to this one last string related change? I will defer to you all on this one as you would be the ones most "negatively" affected. Cheers, Josh -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Ted Gould <ted@...143...> > To: Inkscape Devel List <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Changes to .desktop file > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:45:49 -0500 > > I realize we're close to a release, and this would effect translations, > but it'd be nice if we could get this fix in. Tell me if I'm crazy :) > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/406578 > > I imagine that if we don't fix it, Linux distros will have to distro > patch it. Which would be a shame. > > --Ted > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Strings Changed (packaging related)
by Joshua A. Andler 15 Oct '09

15 Oct '09

Hey All, I just wanted to let you know that strings have changed in our .desktop file as we were apparently out-of-date with the proper format of information in there. I know I had said no more string changes, but this was a packaging issue and needed to be taken care of. The content that used to be in "Name", 'Inkscape Vector Graphics Editor', is now in "X-GNOME-FullName", the new contents of "Name" is now just 'Inkscape' (which I am unsure, should this even still be translatable?), and there is now a "GenericName" which is just 'Vector Graphics Editor'. Hopefully that is not too confusing. If all of you wonderful translators could have this done by the end of the upcoming weekend (so, by Monday in your local timezone), I would be grateful. Cheers, Josh

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Inkscape 0.47 press release
by Lucas Vieites 09 Oct '09

09 Oct '09

Hi, I took the liberty of changing the topic in order to fork this trhead. 2009/10/8 Joshua A. Andler <scislac@...5...> > Lucas, > > I agree that it would be helpful for it to be as final as possible. > Being a native English speaker, I assumed that having knowledge in > advance would be advantageous to get most of the work out of the way. > Apparently the translation process is more specific and intricate than I > had assumed. Lucas, can you suggest what would be most helpful to > translators? Not saying anything until it's finalized? Stating what is > completely finalized? > This last option would be great. The main problem with translating wiki texts is that it's difficult to see what has changed from one version of the text to another. I know there's an option to see the changes in a page, that's part of the wiki philosophy, but when using "third party" translation tools that becomes almost useless. For example, I use a tool called "OmegaT" to translate web pages. The workflow is as follows (for almost all types of texts): 1- download the html page 2- segment the file (the software separates the text in "translation units"; phrases, titles, etc.) 3- translate all the segments 4- put the file back together in the target language 5- upload the translated file Now imagine the original file changes, the workflow is almost the same: 1- download the html page 2- segment the file (this separates the text in "translation units"; phrases, titles, etc.) 3- the software detects the segments that are not the same and marks them as "fuzzy" (usually indicating a percentage of coincidence) 4- translate the changed and new segments 5- put the file back together in the target language With wiki texts the worklow fails at #1. You cannot download the text to be interpreted by the software, so it all becomes a manual process (back to the ice age of comparing texts one next to the other, yuk). I don't know a real solution yet, maybe there's space here for an open-source "Wiki Translation" project ;-) such as those discussed at http://wiki-translation.com/ Anyway, We'll do our best !!! > > Cheers, > Josh > > On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:52 +0200, Lucas Vieites wrote: > > Hi, > > I just copied the English text to the existing "es" page: > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Inkscape047-PRannounce-es > > but I think there's parts of the text that can/should be omitted in > > the final press release. > > Also, It's very difficult to keep a translation up to date in a wiki > > if the original is not finished, So it would be very useful if the > > press release is as much finished as possible before translation > > begins. > > Are we at this point? > > Are major changes in the press release to be expected? > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > Lucas Vieites > > Blog: http://blog.codexion.com/ > > > > > > 2009/10/8 Lucas Vieites <lucas@...162...> > > Hi, > > I'll take care of the spanish version if that's OK. > > -- > > Lucas Vieites > > Blog: http://blog.codexion.com/ > > > > > > 2009/10/7 Uwe Schöler <mail@...152...> > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > we need help in translating the announcement for the > > new release > > > > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047 > > > > > > to different languages. It's easy with the wiki and if > > someone needs > > help with it, he or she can email me or catch me in > > the inkscape channel. > > I started the translation for German > > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047_de > > > > Sincerely, > > > > UweSch > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshua A. Andler schrieb: > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > I forgot to post to the user and translator lists > > because I was too > > > excited. :) > > > > > > I think we closed out the last of the blocker bugs > > today! > > > > > > So, will people please help ensure that the release > > notes are up to > > > date? I'm headed there in just a minute to document > > my latest changes. > > > > > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.47 > > > > > > Regarding PR, I am going to continue with what was > > started here: > > > > > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047 > > > If you are an inkscape user who wants to contribute, > > even if you can't > > > program, this is the perfect way to give back to the > > community. Please > > > help us flesh this out and refine it. > > > > > > Packagers, please package up Pre3 if you have not > > already done so as a > > > practice run... and honestly, I think it would be > > safe to plan a release > > > for next week (between Monday the 5th and Friday the > > 9th), provided > > > packages are available and no new issues arise. > > > > > > Any objections to this proposed plan? Any thoughts > > on if releasing on a > > > specific day of the week will get more notice? > > > > > > Oh, and translators... please get any updates > > submitted asap. Thanks! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer > > Conference in SF, CA > > > is the only developer event you need to attend this > > year. Jumpstart your > > > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile > > applications to market and stay > > > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, > > 2009. Register now! > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-translator mailing list > > > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer > > Conference in SF, CA > > is the only developer event you need to attend this > > year. Jumpstart your > > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications > > to market and stay > > > > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, > > 2009. Register now! > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-translator mailing list > > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > _______________________________________________ Inkscape-translator > mailing list Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator > > > -- Lucas Vieites Blog: http://blog.codexion.com/

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Re: [Inkscape-translator] Inkscape 0.47 on the horizon (Call for help)
by Lucas Vieites 08 Oct '09

08 Oct '09

Hi, I just copied the English text to the existing "es" page: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Inkscape047-PRannounce-es but I think there's parts of the text that can/should be omitted in the final press release. Also, It's very difficult to keep a translation up to date in a wiki if the original is not finished, So it would be very useful if the press release is as much finished as possible before translation begins. Are we at this point? Are major changes in the press release to be expected? Thanks, -- Lucas Vieites Blog: http://blog.codexion.com/ 2009/10/8 Lucas Vieites <lucas@...162...> > Hi, > I'll take care of the spanish version if that's OK. > -- > Lucas Vieites > Blog: http://blog.codexion.com/ > > > 2009/10/7 Uwe Schöler <mail@...152...> > > Hey all, >> >> we need help in translating the announcement for the new release >> >> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047 >> >> to different languages. It's easy with the wiki and if someone needs >> help with it, he or she can email me or catch me in the inkscape channel. >> I started the translation for German >> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047_de >> >> Sincerely, >> >> UweSch >> >> >> >> >> >> Joshua A. Andler schrieb: >> > Hey All, >> > >> > I forgot to post to the user and translator lists because I was too >> > excited. :) >> > >> > I think we closed out the last of the blocker bugs today! >> > >> > So, will people please help ensure that the release notes are up to >> > date? I'm headed there in just a minute to document my latest changes. >> > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.47 >> > >> > Regarding PR, I am going to continue with what was started here: >> > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047 >> > If you are an inkscape user who wants to contribute, even if you can't >> > program, this is the perfect way to give back to the community. Please >> > help us flesh this out and refine it. >> > >> > Packagers, please package up Pre3 if you have not already done so as a >> > practice run... and honestly, I think it would be safe to plan a release >> > for next week (between Monday the 5th and Friday the 9th), provided >> > packages are available and no new issues arise. >> > >> > Any objections to this proposed plan? Any thoughts on if releasing on a >> > specific day of the week will get more notice? >> > >> > Oh, and translators... please get any updates submitted asap. Thanks! >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Josh >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA >> > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your >> > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and >> stay >> > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register >> now! >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Inkscape-translator mailing list >> > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA >> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your >> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay >> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-translator mailing list >> Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator >> > >

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Inkscape 0.47 on the horizon (Call for help)
by Joshua A. Andler 07 Oct '09

07 Oct '09

Hey All, I forgot to post to the user and translator lists because I was too excited. :) I think we closed out the last of the blocker bugs today! So, will people please help ensure that the release notes are up to date? I'm headed there in just a minute to document my latest changes. http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.47 Regarding PR, I am going to continue with what was started here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning047 If you are an inkscape user who wants to contribute, even if you can't program, this is the perfect way to give back to the community. Please help us flesh this out and refine it. Packagers, please package up Pre3 if you have not already done so as a practice run... and honestly, I think it would be safe to plan a release for next week (between Monday the 5th and Friday the 9th), provided packages are available and no new issues arise. Any objections to this proposed plan? Any thoughts on if releasing on a specific day of the week will get more notice? Oh, and translators... please get any updates submitted asap. Thanks! Cheers, Josh

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Changed a string
by Joshua A. Andler 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

Hello Translators, I am so sorry to have to tell you that I had to change a string during String Freeze as it was not clear enough in English. Again, it relates to the Save page in preferences. Given that this happened we will give you all a few extra days for translations. It would be great if the translations could be completed by next Wednesday. Cheers, Josh

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Re: [Inkscape-translator] [Inkscape-devel] Re : Save As option?
by Joshua A. Andler 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 19:53 +0000, Nicolas Dufour wrote: > > > De : bulia byak <buliabyak@...5...> > > 2009/10/5 Krzysztof Kosiński : > > > "When this option is on, the "Save as..." dialog will always open in > > > the directory where the currently open document is. When it's off, it > > > will open in the directory where you last saved a file using that > > > dialog." > > > > I second that. And please update the rel notes accordingly. > > Please don't forget that we've reached string freeze last Saturday, and that the deadline for translations is next Tuesday. Is it possible to delay that kind of changes to the next release (0.47.1 or 0..48)? The current string is not very good, but it's not that bad. The risk is that some translators don't have time to translate it again... I'm sorry, it was really necessary to change (and has already happened). Consider this an extension to next Saturday. (Apparently I forgot that it was Tuesday and only extended 1 day when I did) Cheers, Josh

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Shall I copy 'PLACEHOLDER(...)' as it is?
by dooteo 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Hi, These is a message we should not translate: msgid "PLACEHOLDER, do not translate" msgstr"" But, can we copy it in msgstr field? Or better than this, if this message is not to be translated, can you remove it from POT file? Thanks and best regards, Dooteo

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Hebrew updated
by Yaron Shahrabani 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Hebrew strikes back with 90%! That's the best I can do right now, Soon the semester will start and I don't want to create a huge gap (10 percent is a pretty big gap already) Hope that will do for the meanwhile Yaron Shahrabani - CTO "The Campus" Web: http://www.hacampus.org.il/ Israeli Applicable Studies Institute 200 Hativat Yiftah St., Karmiel, Israel Phone Number: +972 (4) 9988508

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Re: [Inkscape-translator] [Inkscape-devel] String freeze?
by Joshua A. Andler 03 Oct '09

03 Oct '09

Hey Nicolas, Sounds good by me. String Freeze goes into effect tomorrow, Saturday, October 3rd. Cheers, Josh On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 10:51 +0000, Nicolas Dufour wrote: > Hi, > > Could we declare string freeze now? It would be nice to let some time (at least a full week) to the translators to finish their translations before 0.47 is released. There are still things to do in the tutorials (but I consider that they are now frozen) and the interface (due to very recent string changes in knotholder and extensions), and some translators are really eager to finish it soon... > > Wardens, we're waiting for your go ! > -- > Nicolas > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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